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  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd like to see the Mega be impactful in some respect...I can see Prophet Sarah SIsko... hell a lil less powerful on the God scale, but Admiral Ross --- maybe even Chancellor Martok (though that whole existing variant not being bonus confusion thing is annoying.)

  • MagisseMagisse ✭✭✭✭✭
    How about this for an Augment mega character- Gary Seven
  • S31S31 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2018
    This is a patriot Sisko

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  • Torias327Torias327 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There will be 8-12 new characters for this upcoming event. I feel like after the V/R event where we got 2 romulans of unsatisfying stats, we should hope to see clearly themed characters that are all exciting to at least some group of players. Also I think if anyone believes this event won’t have at least some non-canon “Augment So and So’s” in it, you haven’t been watching DB this year. My fear that by requesting fringe one off characters and highly specific episode versions of mains from DS9 we may be setting ourselves up for a disappointment. 4-6 augments and 4-6 DS9ers isn’t a big pool. I would love to see Jake, Winn, Shakaar, Damar and the like get their day, but if they do and there is no Kira, Odo or Miles it would be wierd. Similarly, there is now an issue of having to do Augment crew, which is why I think we are about to get a parade of non-canon fur wearing versions of Dax, Kira and Sisko. Also, Mirror Troi was a bloodbath event and likely a huge sales week, as was Honey Bare. I’ll be stunned to not see Augment Dax happen.
  • TcalTcal ✭✭✭
    I hope the recurring legendary is NOT ENG! I hope it's DIP primary! Maybe even a 5* Sisko!
  • S31S31 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I want power creep for DS9 crew. DS9 crew must be stronger than stupid Michael Burnham and the rest of Discovery squad.

    Formal Dress Bashir - legendary mega event - Med 1400 Science 1200 Diplomacy 400

    Patriot Sisko if 4* Diplomacy 950 Security 700 Command 600

    War Veteran O'Brien if 4* Eng 900 Security 700 Command 600

    Counselor Ezri Dax - legendary Dip 1100 Sec 650 Med 1200

    Augment Odo 4* star (he was human for a brief time) - command 700 security 900

  • Travis S McClainTravis S McClain ✭✭✭✭✭
    Irial wrote: »
    Ratio of New:Existing
    The perfect balance would be one new 5*, one new 4*, and one existing 4* each week, so we'd get:

    1 new 5* recurring Legendary [ENG primary!]
    2 new 5* DS9 crew
    2 new 5* Augments
    2 new 4* DS9 crew
    2 new 4* Augments
    2 existing 4* DS9 crew
    2 existing Augments

    There are only three 4* Augments: Augment Riker, RAF Julian Bashir, and Young Khan. Remember what I said about Bashir, though, which would leave Riker and Khan. I'm sure a lot of Augment fans are hoping for a new Khan somewhere in all this, so if the new Khan is another 5*, reusing the 4* Young Khan that week would work just fine.

    Respectfully, I do not think this is the best approach regarding Event Crew to try to please the greater player base, acknowledging that any option available to DB will be disliked by some portion of players. Specifically, I feel that a major contributing factor to the dissatisfaction within the current Mega Event was precisely the choice to have one existing 4* each week. This I think opened up criticism in 2 different ways. Firstly, players did not like the choice(s) for existing crew, and I think this will always be the case, as there will always be players who would want the existing crew to be someone other than whoever is chosen - that is, I do not think it is possible for DB to choose an existing 4* character to use that someone won't criticize. Secondly, players came up with long lists of potential new crew (especially Romulans) they would have liked to have seen in the Mega, who did not end up appearing, and we could have gotten more of these if there had been fewer existing crew used.

    Again, there is no perfect solution that someone won't like, but I do believe have 4 existing 4* crew during a Mega does more harm than good regarding player satisfaction. If there are more new 4* crew introduced, it adds something new to the game that is potentially available to all players, whereas existing crew will always be uninteresting to some players. My suggestion would be that at most only 2 of the 4 Events during the next Mega have an existing 4* character as Event crew, instead of your proposed 4.

    That request originated from the consistent frustration voiced in threads throughout previous mega-events where players felt overwhelmed by the influx of new crew.

    The disappointment you allude to isn't about the general idea of including existing crew, but simply specific to the selection of which ones. To use the current mega-event as an example, the criticism is that Romulan Kirk and Commander Sela have both already been used in events, whereas Commander Nevesa and Subcommander T'Rul have not. If there was a greater pool of existing 4* Romulans, this wouldn't be so glaring.

    Looking ahead to the DS9/Augment mega-event, here are the existing DS9 4* crew who have not yet been featured in any events:

    Captain Kurn
    Chief O'Brien *
    Defiant Commander Worf *
    Dominion Dukat
    First Goran'Agar
    Gabriel Bell
    Maquis Eddington
    Mirror Ezri Tigan
    Mirror Sisko
    Niners Kira Nerys
    Resistance Shakaar
    Subcommander T'Rul
    Thot Gor **
    Weyoun Clone 4
    Undercover O'Brien

    *Chief O'Brien and Defiant Commander Worf were both previously made available in Daily Rewards.
    ** Thot Gor is presently a Voyage-exclusive crew and not expected to be circulated any other way.

    Ideally, the existing 4* DS9 crew would be taken from that list, but because there are so many others, it wouldn't be nearly as egregious if they aren't as it was for Romulan Kirk and Commander Sela to be chosen over Commander Nevesa and Subcommander T'Rul.

    Unfortunately, as noted, there are only three existing 4* Augments and they've all been in at least one event to date (Augment Riker, RAF Julian Bashir, Young Khan). Even if we cast a wider net to include Augment-related crew, that just adds Arik Soong and Marla McGivers, both of whom have also already been in events.
  • JeanLucKirkJeanLucKirk ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2018

    "Recurring Legendary
    Also, since there are five weekends in June, any chance the mega-event will run all five and we won't even need Honor to finish fusing this crew member?"


    Ratio of DS9:Augments
    In these first two split megas, "Ghosts of the Past" (DIS/Andorian) and "All We Become" (Vulcan/Romulan), the ratios between the two source elements haven't been as fully balanced as perhaps they could be. It's a given that Bashir and/or his quartet of misfits will turn up...


    Characters
    When choosing the existing 4* crew, prioritize those who have not yet been featured in an event. For example, there's Subcommander T'Rul from DS9. -_-

    Lol, do you remotely have a sense of pride? Cause I have seen street be..... displaying more of it.
    You don´t even know yet who the recurring character of the summer mega will be. But are already "leaching" for even more generosity of DB in advance, lol.

    Really? Cool, so you must be the new product manager of STT if that is "a given". Make sure we get everything for free from now on. Thanks in advance and congrats to your new job.


    Yups, you are indeed the new product manager of STT ;) Last I will say to this cause by now it is clear it is pointless in this place. Thing is: If people can´t or don´t want to invest in a game it is fine. If someone has no budget for entertainment I am glad this game gives them some disctraction from their day to day. But than they should not act like major shareholders of DB. That is simply styleless and cheap, sorry.


  • DavideBooksDavideBooks ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is simply a place to share opinions. No need to get personal. I like Travis's ideas.
  • Navarch Navarch ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2018
    I like the exchange of ideas here. It gives me an appreciation for the numerous options available. If DB offers an Admiral Patrick and added the quote “That’s a stupid question”, that would get me to buy the $100 offer.
  • Lady GaghgaghLady Gaghgagh ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Recurring Legendary
    Also, since there are five weekends in June, any chance the mega-event will run all five and we won't even need Honor to finish fusing this crew member?"


    Ratio of DS9:Augments
    In these first two split megas, "Ghosts of the Past" (DIS/Andorian) and "All We Become" (Vulcan/Romulan), the ratios between the two source elements haven't been as fully balanced as perhaps they could be. It's a given that Bashir and/or his quartet of misfits will turn up...


    Characters
    When choosing the existing 4* crew, prioritize those who have not yet been featured in an event. For example, there's Subcommander T'Rul from DS9. -_-

    Lol, do you remotely have a sense of pride? Cause I have seen street be..... displaying more of it.
    You don´t even know yet who the recurring character of the summer mega will be. But are already "leaching" for even more generosity of DB in advance, lol.

    Really? Cool, so you must be the new product manager of STT if that is "a given". Make sure we get everything for free from now on. Thanks in advance and congrats to your new job.


    Yups, you are indeed the new product manager of STT ;) Last I will say to this cause by now it is clear it is pointless in this place. Thing is: If people can´t or don´t want to invest in a game it is fine. If someone has no budget for entertainment I am glad this game gives them some disctraction from their day to day. But than they should not act like major shareholders of DB. That is simply styleless and cheap, sorry.


    Is there a legitimate reason you're so combative?
    Admiral of the Haus of GaghGagh, Starbase level 94, we are not accepting members at this time.
    Captain of the voyage vessels: Queen of Bashir, Landsknecht, and Sunspear, the first luxury starship cruiseliners.
    Amenities include wifi, fully-functioning holodecks, a full-service bar, 3 party decks, a Trill spa, and a business centre.
    Fun fact: The ships are propelled by bouncy castle technology.
  • Travis S McClainTravis S McClain ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Recurring Legendary
    Also, since there are five weekends in June, any chance the mega-event will run all five and we won't even need Honor to finish fusing this crew member?"


    Ratio of DS9:Augments
    In these first two split megas, "Ghosts of the Past" (DIS/Andorian) and "All We Become" (Vulcan/Romulan), the ratios between the two source elements haven't been as fully balanced as perhaps they could be. It's a given that Bashir and/or his quartet of misfits will turn up...


    Characters
    When choosing the existing 4* crew, prioritize those who have not yet been featured in an event. For example, there's Subcommander T'Rul from DS9. -_-

    Lol, do you remotely have a sense of pride? Cause I have seen street be..... displaying more of it.
    You don´t even know yet who the recurring character of the summer mega will be. But are already "leaching" for even more generosity of DB in advance, lol.


    Really? Cool, so you must be the new product manager of STT if that is "a given". Make sure we get everything for free from now on. Thanks in advance and congrats to your new job.


    Yups, you are indeed the new product manager of STT ;) Last I will say to this cause by now it is clear it is pointless in this place. Thing is: If people can´t or don´t want to invest in a game it is fine. If someone has no budget for entertainment I am glad this game gives them some disctraction from their day to day. But than they should not act like major shareholders of DB. That is simply styleless and cheap, sorry.

    These are merely requests. Not expectations, not instructions, not demands. They're not even all necessarily things that I personally care about, for that matter. This is just a list I synthesized from things that have stood out to me as recurring points discussed throughout each of the first six mega-events. The remarks about the fifth week and T'Rul you quoted were merely tongue in cheek bits of wishful thinking on my part. It didn't occur to me that wasn't self-evident.

    I'll readily grant that I'm being presumptuous about Bashir & the Misfits turning up, but anticipation of their presence has been expressed throughout the various threads related to that mega by numerous other forum members besides myself. It's a reasonable thing to speculate, given that they're both DS9 characters and Augments.
  • Given the recurring 5* tends to meaningful to one of the factions, I suspect we'll see a new Khan, although we could get a Prophet Sisko or Emissary Sisko.

    Plotline, given DS9's involvement, possibly the Augments wanting to improve themselves further by becoming like the Founders? So maybe even a Changeling Khan?

    I'd like to see the Jack Pack make an appearance, as well as some Augmented DS9 crew - Augment Sisko, Augment O'Brien... Even have an un-Augmented Jules Bashir as a 2* as a nice touch. His stats would be terrible, but in this case stats wouldn't be the point. A new Keiko could be a nice touch too, Augment Keiko, who'd make for a nice MED/SCI/ENG and have Poison Ivy green-er with envy at her toxic botanical skills.
  • Mirror CartmanMirror Cartman ✭✭✭✭✭
    furyd wrote: »
    Given the recurring 5* tends to meaningful to one of the factions, I suspect we'll see a new Khan,

    Khan appeared in one episode of TOS, and one film. We already have one Khan from each appearance. I wouldn't mind another Khan, but it's stretching it to put a third in.

    I fully expect a 5* Bashir, he is an Augment and DS9 crew. Hopefully from TNG birthright, so he has Med, Eng and Sci.

  • Khan appeared in one episode of TOS, and one film. We already have one Khan from each appearance. I wouldn't mind another Khan, but it's stretching it to put a third in.

    Two films! :D

    He's also the most instantly recognisable Trek villain, and with a status that far exceeds his screen time, and inspirer of a few memes. Montalban crafted a truly iconic character.

    I wouldn't want to see too many Khan's, but I don't think a third (or even a fourth) would be over-egging the pudding.
  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    furyd wrote: »
    Given the recurring 5* tends to meaningful to one of the factions, I suspect we'll see a new Khan,

    Khan appeared in one episode of TOS, and one film. We already have one Khan from each appearance. I wouldn't mind another Khan, but it's stretching it to put a third in.

    I fully expect a 5* Bashir, he is an Augment and DS9 crew. Hopefully from TNG birthright, so he has Med, Eng and Sci.

    Considering we have 2 Burnhams from an even shorter timeframe, anything is possible.
  • Mirror CartmanMirror Cartman ✭✭✭✭✭
    furyd wrote: »
    Khan appeared in one episode of TOS, and one film. We already have one Khan from each appearance. I wouldn't mind another Khan, but it's stretching it to put a third in.

    Two films! :D

    He's also the most instantly recognisable Trek villain, and with a status that far exceeds his screen time, and inspirer of a few memes. Montalban crafted a truly iconic character.

    I wouldn't want to see too many Khan's, but I don't think a third (or even a fourth) would be over-egging the pudding.

    One film is from the Kelvin universe which DB don't have the rights to, so only one film that counts.
    Pallidyne wrote: »
    Considering we have 2 Burnhams from an even shorter timeframe, anything is possible.

    True, we also have two Picards from First Contact.
  • DralixDralix ✭✭✭✭✭
    we also have two Picards from First Contact.

    And while this may be uncommon, all that's really required is that they can be visually distinguished from each other.
  • (HGH)Apollo(HGH)Apollo ✭✭✭✭✭
    What if instead of a recurring legendary instead we were able to get five extra crew slots each week? Our greatest need is space for more crew.
    Let’s fly!
  • JhamelJhamel ✭✭✭✭✭
    By the way, Lady Gaghgagh, thankies for suggesting Eris as new Dominion card in your list. :)
    "Everything about the Jem'Hadar is lethal!" - Eris (ST-DS9 Episode 2x26 "The Jem'Hadar")
  • FutureImperfectaFutureImperfecta ✭✭✭✭✭
    My requests for the Ds9 mega..

    Admiral Patrick /w Sound Clip as the recurring 5* Engineering/med/sci

    If not him, the Emh diagnostic program
    (Same skills)

    All new crew, but run an event with relevant recurring Characters the week before.

    Expedition of some sort..
    But even if only hybrid, more then 3 missions please.. (I get that's likely the perk for DB doing an Expedition in a hybrid instead of a full but.. I don't care right now lol this is about what I / we want)

    I won't be shocked if when a Discovery character (or two) appear on the event so long as he and she makes sense, has good art and helps create an even ds9/ Augment characters ratio. (Though, I'm perfectly happy with ds9 majority)

    Crew wish list
    Aforementioned Admiral Patrick

    Admiral Ross
    Some form of Sisko
    Frustrated Bashir (Season 6 episode 1, headaches and heartaches look)
    Star Fleet Eddington

    Upside down Ezri as a 2* please !!
    (She liked to do hand stands)


    Ceti-Alpha Khan
    Or..
    Non Canon him, stick him in a Starfleet uniform and come up with a good story.
    (Raises flame Shields)

    The non augment, augment from the augment 3 part episode on Enterprise session 4

    I could go for some Augment Kira :)
    (Though how can the Intendant be improved upon really ?)

    Lol I admit it's hard for me to think of a lot of unique augments who haven't already been done, save for the jack pack.

    Between the other 3 Jack Packers, Sarena would get my vote.



  • Lady GaghgaghLady Gaghgagh ✭✭✭✭✭
    By the way, Lady Gaghgagh, thankies for suggesting Eris as new Dominion card in your list. :)

    You're welcome. She was DS9's first contact with the Vorta, so she's pretty important.
    Admiral of the Haus of GaghGagh, Starbase level 94, we are not accepting members at this time.
    Captain of the voyage vessels: Queen of Bashir, Landsknecht, and Sunspear, the first luxury starship cruiseliners.
    Amenities include wifi, fully-functioning holodecks, a full-service bar, 3 party decks, a Trill spa, and a business centre.
    Fun fact: The ships are propelled by bouncy castle technology.
  • AntasilAntasil ✭✭✭✭
    While I sympathize with the original post, I disagree with his numbers on a 'balanced' distribution of augments and DS9 characters for the mega event. This is Timelines, after all, where all the series of Trek come together. So yes, there should a be a few more augment and DS9 characters, but in my opinion it's part of the game that a character from another series makes an appearance.
  • JhamelJhamel ✭✭✭✭✭
    Did you like my four events idea with the alternate ending event I posted on Page 1? It would fit quite sweetly, I think. :)
    "Everything about the Jem'Hadar is lethal!" - Eris (ST-DS9 Episode 2x26 "The Jem'Hadar")
  • [BL] Q [BL] Q ✭✭✭✭✭
    5* Slug Dax as a toon
  • DavideBooksDavideBooks ✭✭✭✭✭
    Shy Khan wrote: »
    Last Breath Khan!

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    He's going to detonate the Genesis device in the Wormhole!

    @Shy Khan
    That is the best idea yet. In one sentence, you have created a better story than DB is likely to in one month.
    You are the winner.
  • Travis S McClainTravis S McClain ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2018
    Now that we have the info for the final week, thought I'd come back and see how this mega stands vis a vis the OP in this thread.
    Recurring Legendary
    To date, only one of of the Recurring Legendaries even had ENG as a tertiary skill (Borg Queen, as corrected by @Lady Gaghgagh below), so it would be fantastic for this to be the primary skill of whoever the June 5* is. ENG is the last skill that needs an infusion of some genuinely strong and useful crew, so it would be great if this 5* would be such a crew member. Also, since there are five weekends in June, any chance the mega-event will run all five and we won't even need Honor to finish fusing this crew member?

    Bell Riots Bashir does not have ENG at all, and while technically there is no fifth week, necessitating the use of an Honor Citation to immortalize him, that fourth week is surely gonna feel like two.
    Ratio of DS9:Augments
    In these first two split megas, "Ghosts of the Past" (DIS/Andorian) and "All We Become" (Vulcan/Romulan), the ratios between the two source elements haven't been as fully balanced as perhaps they could be. It's a given that Bashir and/or his quartet of misfits will turn up, being DS9 Augments. It would be nice if there were enough other DS9 crew and Augments aside from them that we're not left feeling that those dual citizens are the lion's share of one side. The most perfect balance would be:

    4 Bashir & Misfits
    4 Other DS9
    4 Other Augments

    We ended up getting:

    2 Bashir & Misfits (Bell Riots Bashir and Sarina Douglas)
    4 Other DS9 (Enemy Lines Sisko, Bell Riots Jadzia Dax, Augment Commander O'Brien, Mirror Leeta)
    3 Other Augments (Young Khan, Malik, Augment Riker)
    2 Augment-Related (Roga Danar, Arik Soong)
    2 Off-Theme (Species 8472 and Drone Seven of Nine)
    Ratio of New:Existing
    The perfect balance would be one new 5*, one new 4*, and one existing 4* each week, so we'd get:

    1 new 5* recurring Legendary [ENG primary!]
    2 new 5* DS9 crew
    2 new 5* Augments
    2 new 4* DS9 crew
    2 new 4* Augments
    2 existing 4* DS9 crew
    2 existing Augments

    There are only three 4* Augments: Augment Riker, RAF Julian Bashir, and Young Khan. Remember what I said about Bashir, though, which would leave Riker and Khan. I'm sure a lot of Augment fans are hoping for a new Khan somewhere in all this, so if the new Khan is another 5*, reusing the 4* Young Khan that week would work just fine.

    In Weeks 1-3, we got one new 5*, one new 4*, and one existing 4*. Week 4 is all new, which was expected despite my failing to say so when I dashed off this post. Total breakdown:

    1 new 5* recurring Legendary [DS9/Augment Bell Riots Bashir]
    2 new 5* DS9 crew (Enemy Lines Sisko and Bell Riots Jadzia Dax)
    0 new 5* Augments
    1 new 5* DS9/Augment (Augment Commander O'Brien)
    1 new 5* Off-Theme crew (Species 8472)
    1 new 4* DS9 crew (Mirror Leeta)
    1 new 4* Augment (Malik)
    1 new 4* DS9/Augment (Sarina Douglas)
    1 new 4* Augment-ish crew (Roga Danar)
    0 existing 4* DS9 crew
    2 existing 4* Augments (Young Khan and Augment Riker)
    1 existing 4* Augment-ish crew (Arik Soong)
    1 existing 4* Off-Theme crew (Drone Seven of Nine)
    Event Formats
    Can we please have an Expedition somewhere in all this? A real one, not the diluted Hybrid version.

    We're getting a diluted Hybrid version, but at least that's something, I suppose.
    Characters
    As mentioned, Bashir and his quartet of misfits fall in the middle of the Venn diagram, so we expect them to feature. If we get Patrick, he really ought to be Admiral Patrick and if at all possible, have the "That's a stupid question!" sound clip.
    Ezri has qualified for the Bonus Crew in several events that featured Jadzia, but she's only ever been in the Featured Crew for one event herself ("Holograms Are Forever"). Also, she doesn't presently have a 5* persona.
    When choosing the existing 4* crew, prioritize those who have not yet been featured in an event. For example, there's Subcommander T'Rul from DS9. -_-

    Bashir and the Misfits did feature, though only Sarina Douglas rather than all four. I personally think they got that part right. The quartet would have been overkill, and if you're gonna whittle it down to just one Misfit, surely Sarina was the one to pick.

    No Ezri. #sad

    The selection of existing 4* crew is probably the only real disappointing spot for me with how this mega unfolded. No existing 4* DS9 crew meant that all the DS9 crew we got were new, which is nice, but it also meant no one was able to bring someone they already had into any of these events for a full bonus or to finish fusing them. That itself is not much of a problem, though.

    Where it did become kind of disappointing was the Augment side. Young Khan and Augment Riker have both featured in events before, with Young Khan most recently appearing in "Triple Threat 2" in January. Arik Soong was in last year's first mega, "The Process of Assimilation". He doesn't have the Augment trait, meaning he was not helpful for the remainder of the mega-event or for completing The Eugenics War collection. Then there's Drone Seven of Nine, who also featured in "The Process of Assimilation", is not an Augment in any sense of the term, and will not be of any help in Week 4, either. Plus, she was the serialized monthly 4* in the Daily Rewards last year, meaning she's been as well circulated as a 4* can get in this game.

    All in all, the distribution and balancing of this mega-event was surprisingly solid. Eleven of the thirteen Featured Crew were solid choices. Despite the criticisms I just laid out about Arik Soong, he makes perfect sense for inclusion in an Augment-centric event! Only Week 3's inclusion of two off-theme crew (Species 8472 and Drone Seven of Nine) undermined what was otherwise a solid month.
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