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Winter's Price: Save the Captain or save the prisoner?

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An away team found a crashed Arkonian shuttle on a snow-bound planet. The only survivors were the captain and a ragged prisoner in the brig, who's ship's records indicate has been accused of murder. Both are hypothermic and the away team only has enough thermal blankets to resucitate one.

Which one do you save and please feel free to use your reasoning in the comments below :)
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Winter's Price: Save the Captain or save the prisoner? 83 votes

Save The Captain
53%
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Save The Prisoner
46%
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  • For CardassiaFor Cardassia ✭✭✭✭✭
    Save The Prisoner
    I used to always save the captain until one time I tried the prisoner...turns out the captain is kind of an asshat and the prisoner isn't too bad, so now I stick with the prisoner
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  • barrydancerbarrydancer ✭✭✭✭✭
    Save The Prisoner
    Prisoner gives better rewards. Or at least always has for me.
  • [S14] Elynduil[S14] Elynduil ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2018
    Save The Prisoner
    Average Guy wrote: »
    Innocent until proven guilty. Plus the captain always goes down with the ship. It's a tradition.
    Skizzy wrote: »
    Accused is not the same as being guilty, so there's no reason to believe that the prisoner actually was a murderer without more information. Unlike the prisoner, the captain voluntarily put himself into the position, even if only voluntarily becoming a captain ordered to transport the prisoner. Seems like the crash was likely more the captain's fault than the prisoner since the prisoner presumably couldn't be operating the ship. Also, why is the prisoner ragged? Seems likely that the prisoner has been mistreated.

    You've described my own reasoning so well that I don't have to type another word.

    Also, you cannot save addicts; only they can choose to save themselves. :#

    Side note: Starfleet's away teams are only equipped to save one person from hypothermia at a time? Couldn't even heat up some rocks with a phaser? Someone needs to teach them the 6 P's.
  • [FF] Frylock IBOL17[FF] Frylock IBOL17 ✭✭✭
    screw'em both!
  • GhostStalkerGhostStalker ✭✭✭✭✭
    Save The Prisoner
    The idiot captain is the one that crashed. He sentenced himself to that fate. Apparently he was addicted to felicium anyway.
  • RaphillonRaphillon ✭✭
    Save The Captain
    The prisoner may be innocent or guilty, but what reason do I have to think the captain did anything wrong?
  • IronagedaveIronagedave ✭✭✭✭✭
    Save The Prisoner
    Elynduil wrote: »
    Side note: Starfleet's away teams are only equipped to save one person from hypothermia at a time? Couldn't even heat up some rocks with a phaser? Someone needs to teach them the 6 P's.

    Kind of reminds me of the "The Enemy Within" episode
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  • IronagedaveIronagedave ✭✭✭✭✭
    Save The Prisoner
    Raphillon wrote: »
    The prisoner may be innocent or guilty, but what reason do I have to think the captain did anything wrong?

    There is nothing to say he did - but equally basing the decision on who is more right or wrong may not be the moral or ethical decision to make.
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  • IronagedaveIronagedave ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2018
    Save The Prisoner
    Much of what has been said echoes why I save the prisoner

    1) The prisoner has not been found guilty, implies he is on his way to being tried, it would be a disservice to both party's representatives and it would not be Federation policy to play judge jury and executioner in this way.

    In the Enterprise episode the Starfleet left on good terms with the Arkonians it would be in their interests to preserve this if possible, especially when there is an echo of doubt in guilt.

    2) The captain was sworn to do a duty (to deliver contents/prisoner(s) safely to the designated destination), he can no longer perform this, your crew could fulfill that role instead. Being a captain has it's hazards and the captain would know there could be fatal consequences when tasked with this line of work.

    Sorry if this is too Vulcan for people.

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  • GhostStalkerGhostStalker ✭✭✭✭✭
    Save The Prisoner
    Raphillon wrote: »
    The prisoner may be innocent or guilty, but what reason do I have to think the captain did anything wrong?

    All you know for sure is that the captain crashed his ship. Oops, bad day for him, risk of the job. Prisoner was, in that moment, a victim of the captain's error.
  • Travis S McClainTravis S McClain ✭✭✭✭✭
    Save The Prisoner
    I always save the prisoner, for all the reasons already articulated, except for my fleet mate @Dralix. That's cold, dude.
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  • DralixDralix ✭✭✭✭✭
    Save The Captain
    I recognize that neither the captain nor the prisoner actually exist, and let the coldness flow.
  • K Han Solo Ng & Thank4 All DteaK Han Solo Ng & Thank4 All Dtea ✭✭✭
    Save The Prisoner
    Save the one who is unable to help themselves. I assume prisoner is bound.
    One of the worst scenes that reflect this in a movie was in Titanic. That showed a non European non English family peering at deck map trying to read to understand what is happening around them. No one is helping them, and they cannot understand how to save themselves as ship sinks around them and chaos prevails.
    Cameron is a great director and story teller
  • Shy KhanShy Khan ✭✭✭✭✭
    Save The Prisoner
    A currently dead person once wrote: "The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons."
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  • [SJ] Yorkster[SJ] Yorkster ✭✭✭
    edited May 2018
    Save The Prisoner
    Usually save the prisoner because in Star Trek the captain would usually end up being a bit of a jerk / homicidal sadist
    Edit: forgot some vital words!
  • (HGH)Apollo(HGH)Apollo ✭✭✭✭✭
    Save The Captain
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  • [BL] Q [BL] Q ✭✭✭✭✭
    Save The Prisoner
    Always save the cardassian prisoner they did nothing wrong
  • Brunt, FCABrunt, FCA ✭✭✭
    Save The Captain
    Wherever my thumb happens to be, usually.
  • WaldoMagWaldoMag ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2018
    Save The Prisoner
    The key thing here is accused, many have mentioned this.
    The captain going down with his ship, is a very valid point. This means the captain is the last to be saved.
    So if you can only save one, it has to be the prisoner. Even if everyone knows he is guilty.
    The captain knows the risk of piloting a ship. Every time he pilots a ship he knows there is a chance that he will die.
    Of course, we all know we need to reprogram this so we can save both.

    Or for Dralix, reprogram it so we can get the reward for saving none, since as he mentions neither actually exist.
  • Travis S McClainTravis S McClain ✭✭✭✭✭
    Save The Prisoner
    Dralix wrote: »
    I recognize that neither the captain nor the prisoner actually exist, and let the coldness flow.

    Fair. Still cold, but fair.
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  • IvanstoneIvanstone ✭✭✭✭✭
    Save The Captain
    I voted for the Captain because I most frequently choose the left* most option because the English language reads from left to right. And now muscle memory has taken over and I just unconsciously tap with my left thumb in spite of being a right handed person.



    *It could be because I'm also a dirty socialist who must always do the politically expedient thing.
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  • (ST) Dreadnought (ST) Dreadnought ✭✭✭
    Save The Prisoner
    Ironagedave wrote: »
    An away team found a crashed Arkonian shuttle on a snow-bound planet. The only survivors were the captain and a ragged prisoner in the brig, who's ship's records indicate has been accused of murder. Both are hypothermic and the away team only has enough thermal blankets to resucitate one.

    Which one do you save and please feel free to use your reasoning in the comments below :)

    You have to save the prisoner to get the best Reward from the next linked mission.
  • (HGH)Apollo(HGH)Apollo ✭✭✭✭✭
    Save The Captain
    Instead of wasting time deciding who to save you save one randomly then quickly save the other.
    Let’s fly!
  • Gib - Admiral MarinersGib - Admiral Mariners ✭✭✭✭
    Save The Prisoner
    Rewards are much better for saving the prisoner.
  • Capt AjammCapt Ajamm ✭✭✭
    Save The Captain
    I always get a purple
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