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  • Althea BiermontAlthea Biermont ✭✭✭✭✭
    Data1001 wrote: »
    I see what they're doing here. Elizabeth Dehner was played by Sally Kellerman. Odo, of course, was played by René Auberjonois, and Antaak was played by John Schuck. All three starred in the movie version of M*A*S*H: Kellerman as "Hot Lips", Auberjonois as Father Mulcahy, and Schuck as Capt. 'Painless' Waldowski (the character for which the theme song "Suicide is Painless" was written).

    So, the Army Chaplain Odo is almost certainly Father Mulcahy. Very strange non-canon diversion, but I've gotta say, I'm kind of fond of the idea, bizarre as it is.

    I wonder if that was intentional or just a coincidence
  • Data1001 wrote: »
    I see what they're doing here. Elizabeth Dehner was played by Sally Kellerman. Odo, of course, was played by René Auberjonois, and Antaak was played by John Schuck. All three starred in the movie version of M*A*S*H: Kellerman as "Hot Lips", Auberjonois as Father Mulcahy, and Schuck as Capt. 'Painless' Waldowski (the character for which the theme song "Suicide is Painless" was written).

    So, the Army Chaplain Odo is almost certainly Father Mulcahy. Very strange non-canon diversion, but I've gotta say, I'm kind of fond of the idea, bizarre as it is.

    Makes sense, probably much more recognizable to fans of TOS who might be aware of this link. Unfortunately I hated the MASH movie, but loved the show so I'm ok with it.
  • Banjo1012Banjo1012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Data1001 wrote: »
    I see what they're doing here. Elizabeth Dehner was played by Sally Kellerman. Odo, of course, was played by René Auberjonois, and Antaak was played by John Schuck. All three starred in the movie version of M*A*S*H: Kellerman as "Hot Lips", Auberjonois as Father Mulcahy, and Schuck as Capt. 'Painless' Waldowski (the character for which the theme song "Suicide is Painless" was written).

    So, the Army Chaplain Odo is almost certainly Father Mulcahy. Very strange non-canon diversion, but I've gotta say, I'm kind of fond of the idea, bizarre as it is.

    Makes sense, probably much more recognizable to fans of TOS who might be aware of this link. Unfortunately I hated the MASH movie, but loved the show so I'm ok with it.

    Same here. The movie, and many of the actors, was blah. The show was phenomenal
  • Data1001Data1001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2018
    Flemming wrote: »
    Great catch!
    Makes me want to think of other mashups like this one.

    MASH-ups? 😉
    I wonder if that was intentional or just a coincidence

    It has to be intentional. For one thing, René never appeared as an Army Chaplain on DS9 (but he did on M*A*S*H).
    Banjo1012 wrote: »
    Unfortunately I hated the MASH movie, but loved the show so I'm ok with it.

    Same here. The movie, and many of the actors, was blah. The show was phenomenal

    I thought the movie was okay. But yeah, the TV series was 10000% better, in almost every way. (Except I personally feel Kellerman was a better Margaret than Swit was.)


    Oh, and let's not feed the troll, my friends. This thread could devolve easily and quickly. Just add him to your ignore list, and move on.

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  • Banjo1012Banjo1012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Data1001 wrote: »
    Flemming wrote: »
    Great catch!
    Makes me want to think of other mashups like this one.

    MASH-ups? 😉
    I wonder if that was intentional or just a coincidence

    It has to be intentional. For one thing, Odo never appeared as an Army Chaplain on DS9 (but he did on M*A*S*H).
    Banjo1012 wrote: »
    Unfortunately I hated the MASH movie, but loved the show so I'm ok with it.

    Same here. The movie, and many of the actors, was blah. The show was phenomenal

    I thought the movie was okay. But yeah, the TV series was 10000% better, in almost every way. (Except I personally feel Kellerman was a better Margaret than Swit was.)


    Oh, and let's not feed the troll, my friends. This thread could devolve easily and quickly. Just add him to your ignore list, and move on.

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    You are right. I am of no religious denomination but have feelings about what I said. I said it, it’s over, and as you suggest, I am ready to move back on topic. So? How bout that Dominion thing huh? One advantage of never using the vault

  • Hamsters2Hamsters2 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2018
    Sooooooo I may be out on a lonesome limb here but there's been so much negativity on the forums lately (with good reason)

    buuuuut I'm going to focus on the positive.

    Like the fact that I didn't freeze all my dominion crew, because as a new(er) player a good chunk of them were still useful to me. Therefore next week I'm hoping I'll have a good start. I've a couple of Odos at 2/4 and Thot Gor who dropped just a few days ago to work on once I've finished Keiko and Mirror Picard (I KNOW, sooooo excited when he dropped for me last week)
    Also, I have Antaak immortilised.

    Maybe this event is very frustrating for older players but for new ones its a refreshing change to have some actual bonus crew for an event that starts with factions. Plus, the new 4* will be FF at the end due to community rewards, and we all get a premium pack to pull as well 😊


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    Great post and glad you are looking forward to it. My response was more just, grrr, I just froze them all darnnit! Got that off my chest, immediately moving on and continuing to enjoy this game. No pitchforks, torches, or gates needed.
  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2018
    Data1001 wrote: »
    Flemming wrote: »
    Great catch!
    Makes me want to think of other mashups like this one.

    MASH-ups? 😉
    I wonder if that was intentional or just a coincidence

    It has to be intentional. For one thing, Odo never appeared as an Army Chaplain on DS9 (but he did on M*A*S*H).
    Banjo1012 wrote: »
    Unfortunately I hated the MASH movie, but loved the show so I'm ok with it.

    Same here. The movie, and many of the actors, was blah. The show was phenomenal

    I thought the movie was okay. But yeah, the TV series was 10000% better, in almost every way. (Except I personally feel Kellerman was a better Margaret than Swit was.)


    Oh, and let's not feed the troll, my friends. This thread could devolve easily and quickly. Just add him to your ignore list, and move on.

    dqhjikrptlr5.jpg

    (shrug) I usually find that even if you feed the militant Freedom from Religion folks you can usually frustrate them into a stoke or coronary fairly easily.

    That being said, I find it interesting the amount of rather than game vitriol we've had political and religious in extra helpings today.

    There an odd moon phase over GMT or something?

    Back to the event, I'm a little frustrated with it being Dominion again, however, I'm glad they added something as without some extra flair the faction part would have been extremely painful.

    I'm more frustrated that there weren't more useful crew created in the mega that can be used as bonus crew this time.
  • SMMSMM ✭✭✭
    I really don't understand people complaining about having to unfreeze Dominion crew. No matter what the bonus trait, most people would be unfreezing crew anyway.
  • cmdrworfcmdrworf ✭✭✭✭✭
    SMM wrote: »
    I really don't understand people complaining about having to unfreeze Dominion crew. No matter what the bonus trait, most people would be unfreezing crew anyway.

    Exactly my thought. I need to unfreeze for each event generally so whats the difference.

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  • edited August 2018
    UHhhghhghgh the best crew I’ll have to share will be a immo’d 4* Dominion...... I don’t have any good Odo’s.
    The crew sharing for this event got me like
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    Shan wrote: »
    crew with the Dominion trait
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    “What's a knockout like you doing in a computer-generated gin joint like this?”

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  • EtienneEtienne ✭✭✭
    Shan wrote: »
    Ok can we attempt to stay on topic please?
    And a reminder that if you have nothing to contribute, just don't post? Thanks :)

    I just want to be sure the Dominion trait is correct before I start unfreezing guys (again)
  • ShanShan ✭✭✭✭✭
    Etienne wrote: »
    Shan wrote: »
    Ok can we attempt to stay on topic please?
    And a reminder that if you have nothing to contribute, just don't post? Thanks :)

    I just want to be sure the Dominion trait is correct before I start unfreezing guys (again)

    It is correct.
  • FlemmingFlemming ✭✭✭✭✭
    Data1001 wrote: »
    Flemming wrote: »
    Great catch!
    Makes me want to think of other mashups like this one.

    MASH-ups? 😉

    Thank you providing the punch line.
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  • Dirk GundersonDirk Gunderson ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pallidyne wrote: »
    Data1001 wrote: »
    Flemming wrote: »
    Great catch!
    Makes me want to think of other mashups like this one.

    MASH-ups? 😉
    I wonder if that was intentional or just a coincidence

    It has to be intentional. For one thing, Odo never appeared as an Army Chaplain on DS9 (but he did on M*A*S*H).
    Banjo1012 wrote: »
    Unfortunately I hated the MASH movie, but loved the show so I'm ok with it.

    Same here. The movie, and many of the actors, was blah. The show was phenomenal

    I thought the movie was okay. But yeah, the TV series was 10000% better, in almost every way. (Except I personally feel Kellerman was a better Margaret than Swit was.)


    Oh, and let's not feed the troll, my friends. This thread could devolve easily and quickly. Just add him to your ignore list, and move on.

    dqhjikrptlr5.jpg

    (shrug) I usually find that even if you feed the militant Freedom from Religion folks you can usually frustrate them into a stoke or coronary fairly easily.

    That being said, I find it interesting the amount of rather than game vitriol we've had political and religious in extra helpings today.

    There an odd moon phase over GMT or something?

    Back to the event, I'm a little frustrated with it being Dominion again, however, I'm glad they added something as without some extra flair the faction part would have been extremely painful.

    I'm more frustrated that there weren't more useful crew created in the mega that can be used as bonus crew this time.

    I would consider myself a somewhat militant freedom from religion type person and even I have no idea what Clone 7’s problem is. I expected some rage about another non-canon character (despite the excellent M*A*S*H Easter egg) but not this. There are things that are worth getting worked up over in this game, and the presence of religious characters in a Star Trek game isn’t one of them.

    To avoid any blue text for not being on topic, how about some credit where credit is due: well done, DB, for keeping up with TOS characters. I wouldn’t say Elizabeth Dehner is at the top of my list (that is reserved for a Harry Mudd we’ll never get, Mirror Sulu, and Doctor M’Benga) but I am pleased all the same. Not pleased enough to try to get her via rank or packs, of course.
  • Shan wrote: »
    Etienne wrote: »
    Shan wrote: »
    Ok can we attempt to stay on topic please?
    And a reminder that if you have nothing to contribute, just don't post? Thanks :)

    I just want to be sure the Dominion trait is correct before I start unfreezing guys (again)

    It is correct.

    Also on topic, will changeling Martok be getting Dominion trait before this event?
  • WoOZWoOZ ✭✭
    [10F] Newt wrote: »
    Erikbert wrote: »
    I just hope DB fixes Changling Martok, giving him the Dominion trait

    If changling Bashir has the Dominion trait so should Changling Martok.

    Changling Martok is a Dominion Spy, so definitely should have dominion trait
  • Sooooooo I may be out on a lonesome limb here but there's been so much negativity on the forums lately (with good reason)

    buuuuut I'm going to focus on the positive.

    Like the fact that I didn't freeze all my dominion crew, because as a new(er) player a good chunk of them were still useful to me. Therefore next week I'm hoping I'll have a good start. I've a couple of Odos at 2/4 and Thot Gor who dropped just a few days ago to work on once I've finished Keiko and Mirror Picard (I KNOW, sooooo excited when he dropped for me last week)
    Also, I have Antaak immortilised.

    Maybe this event is very frustrating for older players but for new ones its a refreshing change to have some actual bonus crew for an event that starts with factions. Plus, the new 4* will be FF at the end due to community rewards, and we all get a premium pack to pull as well 😊


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    Thank you for your positivity and Grats on getting Pecard.
    I am one of the aforementioned older players who just froze all their Dominion crew and you would NOT believe my reaction: "Flipping heck!" I said to myself. Yes, it was that extreme(!)

    Seems like the forum is 'locked' into Complain mode at the moment and it's a real shame considering just over a month ago I was actually telling people it was better these days.

    I'm not blaming just the players - DB have certainly made their own contribution to these feelings - but I do hope that people just take an extra minute before hitting send and think about whether they might be reacting out of proportion.

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  • Glad I took Umpire Odo with my last Behold. Now to see how much I can equip him in a week.
  • Shan wrote: »
    I brought up Changeling Martok and the Dominion trait will hopefully be added before the event starts.

    Thank-you! I will start working on him getting him FE. And if it doesn't make it in time, oh well, I had hope and would have gotten around to FE'ing him someday anyway.
  • t<G>e  Roonist<G>e Roonis ✭✭✭✭
    So confused, so MASH Odo is Dominion Odo? Otherwise hasn't the bonus trait always matched one of the event crew?
  • So confused, so MASH Odo is Dominion Odo? Otherwise hasn't the bonus trait always matched one of the event crew?

    I think they did the same thing with Trader Odo's event.
  • t<G>e  Roonist<G>e Roonis ✭✭✭✭
    Brunt, FCA wrote: »
    So confused, so MASH Odo is Dominion Odo? Otherwise hasn't the bonus trait always matched one of the event crew?

    I think they did the same thing with Trader Odo's event.

    Not per the wiki.
  • Yeah, I don't usually complain, but a pretty dick move having Dominion back again so soon. Guaranteed the majority of players froze most of theirs and will now have to spend merit again. Happy about Dehner though!
  • t<G>e  Roonist<G>e Roonis ✭✭✭✭
    Yeah, I don't usually complain, but a pretty dick move having Dominion back again so soon. Guaranteed the majority of players froze most of theirs and will now have to spend merit again. Happy about Dehner though!

    I mean, conversely, it probably should have been Klingons because of Antaak, which would have been just as inconvenient with more crew to pull out.

    I don't really see the big issue.

  • edited August 2018
    Yeah, I don't usually complain, but a pretty dick move having Dominion back again so soon. Guaranteed the majority of players froze most of theirs and will now have to spend merit again. Happy about Dehner though!

    I mean, conversely, it probably should have been Klingons because of Antaak, which would have been just as inconvenient with more crew to pull out.

    I don't really see the big issue.

    We often have to pull crew out for a new event, that's true, but we just came off of a mega Dominion event and then switched to a non-Dominion event. It seemed pretty likely to most that the Dominion would not be featured for a little while. Also, Klingon would make more sense as you have said.
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