Two skills and even when 5/5 she's weaker than some 1/5 crew make her absolutely meh. Add to that the weak stats of the new Crusher and Guinan and a lot of my fleet couldn't give a toss about this mega event and it hasn't even started.
Sure, she's of some use to people with smaller/weaker rosters but for vets with deep rosters this entire event is off to a weak start.
Funny how mega events get less "mega" each time.
Yeah, that's why they're more like "mehga" events, and this one is off to a rip-roaring "MEHga" start.
Sometimes I feel sorry (albeit not often) for Shan and DB because they be like:
Having said that, Minuet’s stats are 🤮
But I’ll still cite her just like I did T’Kumquat because I have so few immortalized legendaries...
I, for one, DYC’d T’Kuvma because he had my #2 COM stat (behind the Borg Queen), #2 SEC stat (behind Kortar), and top COM/SEC combo (ahead of Mirror Kirk and Kortar) at the time. Even now, he is my #2 base COM, #3 combined COM, and my #3 base and combined SEC. After the last several mega events, SEC is now technically my weakest skill...as a result, even a two-skill T’Kuvma is a daily contributor for me.
Minuet even at 5/5* would not be a daily contributor. If I wanted DIP/COM I would put citations into my 1/5* Professor Sato, 2/5* Admiral Kirk, or 1/5* Senator Vreenak long before I wasted even one on Minuet. At 4/5*, Minuet will make a rare voyage or gauntlet when skills and traits line up nicely - which is what I currently do with my 2/5* Changeling Founder and 3/5* Rogue Kai Winn.
Maybe folks should wait to see the ship ability before getting super crabby. She could still be an arena/skirmish monster.
If folks are VIP14 or close and it really bothers you, cite her and freeze her and drag her out when holograms are bonus crew.
If you are full f2p and have not been playing for a really, really long time at 4* FF she will still be pretty solid shuttle crew. The numbers are pretty meh no doubt, but she is still decent for DIP and COM shuttles which is one of the more common pairings. She will not light your world on fire, but she will make some shuttles.
Is she top tier for anyone. No. But she is free and she has situational value (and she could still be Killy's bigger, meaner sister).
If she's bigger and badder than Killy, they will just nerf her right before the Skirmish starts, so really not that much of a value add, though the attempt an the Polyanna wig is admirable.
I'm confused, it seems to me that some people are missing the utility of Minuet: she has several useful traits for the Gauntlet and voyages, her Dip proficiency is excellent, her space ability seems targeted to increased competitiveness in Skirmishes (early on you can reduce incoming damage and bolster your defenses against natural hull damage).
Personally, I think she's a fantastic, welcome (and classy) addition to the game.
I'm confused, it seems to me that some people are missing the utility of Minuet: she has several useful traits for the Gauntlet and voyages, her Dip proficiency is excellent, her space ability seems targeted to increased competitiveness in Skirmishes (early on you can reduce incoming damage and bolster your defenses against natural hull damage).
Personally, I think she's a fantastic, welcome (and classy) addition to the game.
For most of the top players, reducing damage is not a concern in skirmishes. They can easily win regardless. The only skirmish benefit are quick to activate damages that can end the battle quickly. The bottleneck in skirmishes is the time per battle, so anything you can do to reduce that time helps. Anything else makes no difference.
Her DIP proficiency is good, but not the best in the game, and only having 1 good gauntlet skill limits her usefulness compared with Locutus, Guinan, Surak, and other big gauntlet crew.
And her low DIP base means that she's not great for shuttles and still won't be a top use for Voyages.
I’m not saying she is the last crew I would ever cite but I would probably first burn citations on Captain Scott to soup up his arena abilities.
I love my sauced Scotty. You have to patiently buy him drinks for a month before he can do anything even remotely useful, then let him pass out, stow him in the engine room, and enjoy the passive perks.
My only gripe is he constantly reminds me of the insanely missed opportunity to do an episode about a Dyson Sphere, which, y'know, might have actually INVOLVED the Dyson Sphere itself. Grrrrr.
I don't know what I'm going to do with her either.
If she wasn't an event crew, I wouldn't even consider spending honor to immortalize her, I'd just wait until eventually she shows up in behold, whenever that might be. Downside is she uses a slot for a longtime.
If I spend the honor, I get some extra use now, but then essentially, after the event she won't get used ever, for anything (maybe gauntlet but as a two-skill only if she matches 2+ traits). So I could freeze her to free a slot without weakening my active crew, but then I'm paying 50,000 for a crew slot when I could just have that extra slot open for 'free' i.e. not paying honor.
I’m really hoping after this first event DB will take a hard look at how many DYC offers were purchased for her vs. how many they normally sell for mega chars and assess whether or not an adjustment is in order. I like giving them $25 for that 5th star, but I can’t justify it for Minuet with her current stats.
I’m really hoping after this first event DB will take a hard look at how many DYC offers were purchased for her vs. how many they normally sell for mega chars and assess whether or not an adjustment is in order. I like giving them $25 for that 5th star, but I can’t justify it for Minuet with her current stats.
They might. Keep in mind they may try it twice, just to be sure it wasn't a fluke.
And they probably won't know right away; this can also impact players who don't even bother spending a citation on her, as they may have less incentive to buy packs versus spending the citation they didn't use on Minuet.
They might. Keep in mind they may try it twice, just to be sure it wasn't a fluke.
They might, I doubt they would change her stats though as they were bitten once with Yargate.
Personally Im fine with her being less powerful than paid for golds, its a free gold, not devaluing of crew like Rufus was.
They might make the crew for the next Megas more desirable, they might not. I dont think they make much money on DYCs for mega characters anyway since most people save honour for citating them.
It just annoys me she has no useful traits for the vault achievements. Would have been an easier pill to swallow if she gave at least one useful trait.
Inspiring maybe?
Maybe a whole new collection for holograms...
I cited because I've been saving up to cite mega 5-star. She was used on shuttles, never made one formula in galaxy part. Not even useful in her own event so far...
If you are full f2p and have not been playing for a really, really long time at 4* FF she will still be pretty solid shuttle crew.
At 4/5, based on the stats in the wiki, she's 742 base command and 802 base dip. That's like... an *okay* purple.
On my VIP0, with those 4/5, she does not rank in my top 10 for either command or dip. At 5/5, she would rank in the top 5 for both, but I would actually freeze her with that if she were a purple as I only keep the top 3 out due to space.
I also plan on freezing here once she is ff/fe....never thought id see the day when id actually freeze a legendary crew...
I think we've fallen into the blind habit of just automatically citing the mega-legendary, but...why??
Most players have plenty of 4/5s and 3/5s that I'm sure are more deserving of an add'l star. In the grand scheme of things, she is SO unworthy compared to far stronger cards...the fact that she's a mega doesn't mean she should jump to the front of the line for citations. Plus, after this month she'll likely never provide bonus for any future event. (Even mediocre T'Kuvma is Klingon and Discovery crew.)
It's a different story for newer players where Minuet would be among their best DIP crew, but for the rest of us, she's as SilverRose said...just an *okay* purple at 4/5. Come the end of the month, I'm opting to airlock her trashy *snip* for the add'l 2,250 HONOR rather than burn a precious citation on freezer meat.
I think some of those players now have more honor than they can use. So they might as well use the honor on her to vault her. Especially for the collectors that want all the cards.
Personally I'm going to keep her at 4/5. Maybe one day I'll get lucky in a year and her 5th star will drop. Until then I'll see if she has uses on Voyages at 4/5.
I think some of those players now have more honor than they can use. So they might as well use the honor on her to vault her. Especially for the collectors that want all the cards.
Personally I'm going to keep her at 4/5. Maybe one day I'll get lucky in a year and her 5th star will drop. Until then I'll see if she has uses on Voyages at 4/5.
At 5/5 she’s ranked 196th voyage crew. That’s not exactly awesome. At 4/5 I’d wager she’s next to useless for pretty much any long term player.
At 4/5 I have better purples that are vaulted. I threw a cite on her on my VIP0 assuming that I will vault her since space is at a premium there. On my eXo account, I bought a DYS for her also so that I can vault her.
edit: as to why I'm bothering to vault her vs. just airlock her, well, she could still have some utility one day in a collection or in an event where holograms are bonus. I play to collect them all.
I think some of those players now have more honor than they can use. So they might as well use the honor on her to vault her. Especially for the collectors that want all the cards.
Personally I'm going to keep her at 4/5. Maybe one day I'll get lucky in a year and her 5th star will drop. Until then I'll see if she has uses on Voyages at 4/5.
At 5/5 she’s ranked 196th voyage crew. That’s not exactly awesome. At 4/5 I’d wager she’s next to useless for pretty much any long term player.
Most of my legendaries are 1/5 other than previous mega and a few of cited up. So the comparison I need to make is not her 5/5 or 4/5 to other 5/5, but her 4/5 to other 1/5 or 4/4.
Also, for DIP only she's 22 at 5/5 and at 4/5 she's 49th. Now looking at who's above her, I'm still not sure if I would use her, but she's a lot better than 196.
She's an extremely close copy of Changeling Founder (who I have immortal). Same skills, similar values, similar proficiencies, same ship ability (though with slightly shorter init and cooldown), same ship skill type and value. The only difference really, is traits. The central traits being changeling vs hologram. Both are shuttle fodder in daily terms. The only real utility besides that is epic level missions of new episodes / distress calls, where those high dual skills and solid proficiencies are great to have.
I'm not going to cite her, and I don't have space concerns. If I do end up having space concerns, there are lots of purples I can temporarily freeze if I need to. I tend to not freeze until I have to, and pack rat my active crew.
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Having said that, Minuet’s stats are 🤮
But I’ll still cite her just like I did T’Kumquat because I have so few immortalized legendaries...
Yeah, that's why they're more like "mehga" events, and this one is off to a rip-roaring "MEHga" start.
I, for one, DYC’d T’Kuvma because he had my #2 COM stat (behind the Borg Queen), #2 SEC stat (behind Kortar), and top COM/SEC combo (ahead of Mirror Kirk and Kortar) at the time. Even now, he is my #2 base COM, #3 combined COM, and my #3 base and combined SEC. After the last several mega events, SEC is now technically my weakest skill...as a result, even a two-skill T’Kuvma is a daily contributor for me.
Minuet even at 5/5* would not be a daily contributor. If I wanted DIP/COM I would put citations into my 1/5* Professor Sato, 2/5* Admiral Kirk, or 1/5* Senator Vreenak long before I wasted even one on Minuet. At 4/5*, Minuet will make a rare voyage or gauntlet when skills and traits line up nicely - which is what I currently do with my 2/5* Changeling Founder and 3/5* Rogue Kai Winn.
If she's bigger and badder than Killy, they will just nerf her right before the Skirmish starts, so really not that much of a value add, though the attempt an the Polyanna wig is admirable.
Doesn’t seem like an arena beast to me?
Proud Former Officer of The Gluten Empire
Retired 12-14-20. So long, and thanks for all the cat pics!
Except we didn t get 4x „free“ 1/5 copies of the Founder.
And yes, i dislike her status as well. Same goes for new Nog and new Guinan...
Yeesh.
Personally, I think she's a fantastic, welcome (and classy) addition to the game.
For most of the top players, reducing damage is not a concern in skirmishes. They can easily win regardless. The only skirmish benefit are quick to activate damages that can end the battle quickly. The bottleneck in skirmishes is the time per battle, so anything you can do to reduce that time helps. Anything else makes no difference.
Her DIP proficiency is good, but not the best in the game, and only having 1 good gauntlet skill limits her usefulness compared with Locutus, Guinan, Surak, and other big gauntlet crew.
And her low DIP base means that she's not great for shuttles and still won't be a top use for Voyages.
Ehh, I'll play the long game with her; If she comes up in a behold, I MIGHT pull the trigger on the last star.
I originally was planning on spending a citation, but at this point I'd rather use it on someone who will provide a bigger benefit.
New Nog seems to be pretty decent for voyages; top 50 is always worth consideration.
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And every single three skill DIP crew like Klingon O'Brien is more useful than her
Check this out I have a totally forgetable 1/5 Virtuos Doctor with DIP 886 (637) Med 365 (335) Sci 242 (158)
He is only 1/5!
1/5 Emotion Chip Data Dip 701 (613) ENG 408 (488) Sci 325 (247)
I love my sauced Scotty. You have to patiently buy him drinks for a month before he can do anything even remotely useful, then let him pass out, stow him in the engine room, and enjoy the passive perks.
My only gripe is he constantly reminds me of the insanely missed opportunity to do an episode about a Dyson Sphere, which, y'know, might have actually INVOLVED the Dyson Sphere itself. Grrrrr.
It will cost you nothing to get her 4/5 from threshold rewards.
If she wasn't an event crew, I wouldn't even consider spending honor to immortalize her, I'd just wait until eventually she shows up in behold, whenever that might be. Downside is she uses a slot for a longtime.
If I spend the honor, I get some extra use now, but then essentially, after the event she won't get used ever, for anything (maybe gauntlet but as a two-skill only if she matches 2+ traits). So I could freeze her to free a slot without weakening my active crew, but then I'm paying 50,000 for a crew slot when I could just have that extra slot open for 'free' i.e. not paying honor.
They might. Keep in mind they may try it twice, just to be sure it wasn't a fluke.
And they probably won't know right away; this can also impact players who don't even bother spending a citation on her, as they may have less incentive to buy packs versus spending the citation they didn't use on Minuet.
Personally Im fine with her being less powerful than paid for golds, its a free gold, not devaluing of crew like Rufus was.
They might make the crew for the next Megas more desirable, they might not. I dont think they make much money on DYCs for mega characters anyway since most people save honour for citating them.
Jim
Inspiring maybe?
Maybe a whole new collection for holograms...
I cited because I've been saving up to cite mega 5-star. She was used on shuttles, never made one formula in galaxy part. Not even useful in her own event so far...
@eXo | SilverRose, @(CSF) Jesus Is Lord [••••] -- What I don't understand is why most seasoned players would waste a citation on Minuet in the first place to make her 5/5.
I think we've fallen into the blind habit of just automatically citing the mega-legendary, but...why??
Most players have plenty of 4/5s and 3/5s that I'm sure are more deserving of an add'l star. In the grand scheme of things, she is SO unworthy compared to far stronger cards...the fact that she's a mega doesn't mean she should jump to the front of the line for citations. Plus, after this month she'll likely never provide bonus for any future event. (Even mediocre T'Kuvma is Klingon and Discovery crew.)
It's a different story for newer players where Minuet would be among their best DIP crew, but for the rest of us, she's as SilverRose said...just an *okay* purple at 4/5. Come the end of the month, I'm opting to airlock her trashy *snip* for the add'l 2,250 HONOR rather than burn a precious citation on freezer meat.
Personally I'm going to keep her at 4/5. Maybe one day I'll get lucky in a year and her 5th star will drop. Until then I'll see if she has uses on Voyages at 4/5.
At 5/5 she’s ranked 196th voyage crew. That’s not exactly awesome. At 4/5 I’d wager she’s next to useless for pretty much any long term player.
edit: as to why I'm bothering to vault her vs. just airlock her, well, she could still have some utility one day in a collection or in an event where holograms are bonus. I play to collect them all.
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Retired 12-14-20. So long, and thanks for all the cat pics!
Most of my legendaries are 1/5 other than previous mega and a few of cited up. So the comparison I need to make is not her 5/5 or 4/5 to other 5/5, but her 4/5 to other 1/5 or 4/4.
Also, for DIP only she's 22 at 5/5 and at 4/5 she's 49th. Now looking at who's above her, I'm still not sure if I would use her, but she's a lot better than 196.
I'm not going to cite her, and I don't have space concerns. If I do end up having space concerns, there are lots of purples I can temporarily freeze if I need to. I tend to not freeze until I have to, and pack rat my active crew.