Captains’ Oath Compensation
Zann Calcore (ISA)
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Has everyone seen the new message about the compensation fix yet? It’s in Starfleet Communications if you haven’t. All I can say about it right now is, it seems like a pretty good solution, except for the lowest ranking people, like myself.
I have to say, I just entirely stopped playing the event once I discovered I couldn’t really get much done due to the bonuses not working correctly, though you should keep in mind that I had 3 of the 4 event crew fully immortalized and ready to go. The bonuses were just so horrible that I couldn’t seem to get anywhere with points anymore so I just called it quits until they fixed the bonus problem. Oops, they never did. So my ranked slipped way, WAY down.
I guess I’m mostly fine with just getting 18,000 Honor, or admittedly I WAS fine with it, till this revision. Again, this is a good fix, but I still have to say that it feels like all those that are in the same boat as me as well as the “little guys” who played the event, just really got snubbed. I KNOW it’s not really the case or intention, but it still feels like a situation where, “everybody gets a Data! Except you guys. Cause you suc.”
Man, it also feels like every other post I’m making on the forum for the past two weeks has been a complaint and contrary to all evidence, I do not like complaining. I’ll do it, but I don’t like doing it, lol. What’s everyone else’s thoughts on this and the fix?
I have to say, I just entirely stopped playing the event once I discovered I couldn’t really get much done due to the bonuses not working correctly, though you should keep in mind that I had 3 of the 4 event crew fully immortalized and ready to go. The bonuses were just so horrible that I couldn’t seem to get anywhere with points anymore so I just called it quits until they fixed the bonus problem. Oops, they never did. So my ranked slipped way, WAY down.
I guess I’m mostly fine with just getting 18,000 Honor, or admittedly I WAS fine with it, till this revision. Again, this is a good fix, but I still have to say that it feels like all those that are in the same boat as me as well as the “little guys” who played the event, just really got snubbed. I KNOW it’s not really the case or intention, but it still feels like a situation where, “everybody gets a Data! Except you guys. Cause you suc.”
Man, it also feels like every other post I’m making on the forum for the past two weeks has been a complaint and contrary to all evidence, I do not like complaining. I’ll do it, but I don’t like doing it, lol. What’s everyone else’s thoughts on this and the fix?
Weirdly enough, I’m also Vulcan Housewife. Also, RNGesus hates me, like really, REALLY hates me.
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May I direct your attention to https://forum.disruptorbeam.com/stt/discussion/11929/because-db-screwed-up-the-galaxy-portion-of-the-event-should-us-players-receive-the-new-data#latest, https://forum.disruptorbeam.com/stt/discussion/11958/yet-another-botch-up#latest and https://forum.disruptorbeam.com/stt/discussion/11984/um-guys-tick-tock#latest
Yes, I’ve read those threads. They’re not quite on the same point except your first mention. Also, mine was started with newer information. Thanks for the info though, as I’m always managing to overlook similar threads.
Compensation for a screw up shouldn't be seen as a lottery
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I agree. I didn't have a strong feeling until this. I figured they'd do something fair. Now I feel like I lost the lottery. I went from not caring much to being a bit annoyed with this new compensation.
Of course, that means that people in the highest tier and/or people who already had Data fused to at least 4/5 will need to figure something out with CS on a case-by-case basis.
More work, but also seems more fair.
Thanks, but honestly, to pull that kind of unfair trick, it takes quite a lot of insensitivity. This mess shows that executives at DB don't feel they have to make things fair. Some got a Data? Cool. Others didn't? Also cool to them.
They're not even trying to anger us, they just don't care how we feel. That's sad for an entertainment business but that's how it is. So rest assured that they do not care in the slightest if you don't go after something you want from this event. If anything, they may find it amusing at best.
I've not made any purchases in game recently due to a lack of perceived value for money, this sort of thing isn't going to make me spend anytime soon.
The initial mention of 18k honor and tiered compensations seemed reasonable for the most part but when you're told others in your tier got that, & more, (through no fault of their own) it leaves a sour taste.
It's like no one read through the message and thought how it would be perceived. Alluding that some players seem to have received a Data randomly and not based on their event ranking at all, whilst others get none. How do you address that? Give everyone a Data/more honor seems the most obvious, but it seems their system can't deal with who has/hasn't received one so there will obviously be players that feel cheated someway because other players will then have 2, etc.
And that's just my personal issue, seems other players have spent money on various methods/promotions to fuse their Data's and they now either have an excess or feel they out of pocket/cheated.
Seems some staff at DB are in for a fun few days.
Did they take your money electronically from a credit card or debit card?
It was reasonable and I think many players were pleased with the suggestion. Then the DB RNG selected the combination 'Right Foot' and 'Grenade Launcher' and sent out the wrong compensation to the wrong people.
Problem is their solution to this new problem was to follow up with 'Left Foot' and 'Flame thrower'
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They chose (b). It was the right choice, and I say this as someone who was initially a top 1000 finisher and now see lots of players ranked below me landing Datas.
It also appears thay some of those who got the Data incorrectly are also getting the extra honour. So someone who would have burned thousands of crons is getting the same reward as someone who didnt even play the galaxy part.
There is enough randomness in the game without compensation being treated the same way.
They should have removed the free copy of Data (they made clear WHAT the rewards were so players knew it was a mistake). The best approach would have been to send a quick follow up emailing players NOT to collect their compensation until the issue was resolved.
I disagree. There are people in the top 1.5k still angry because they didn't want Data and CS didn't provide them with any alternative. There are some players below 1.5k who were affected more than some in the 1.5k (bought packs or crew, used up resources during the faction part before stopping at the threshold because of the bug...) and others who were marginally affected (like me), but still ranked decently and put some effort and resources into it, definitely more than someone at rank 40000 or 90000 who may now have Data and 18000 honor. Now I "lost the lottery" to people who weren't affected at all. Everyone in the 1.5k and everyone who got Data by mistake now got double compensation.
I still don't think they should give a Data to everyone, but they could have given some more honor to the people below 1.5k and taken tickets more seriously.
I was fine with 18000 honor before the compensations were sent out to the wrong players. I'd still be fine with it if they had added even just 9000 more honor to it. But this way, it feels disappointing.
Didn't realize I could have ended up with two Datas, or at least one.
I grinded through thousands of crons in the galaxy part to get Data and it was the hardest slog I have had for any event (or certainly felt like it). It is a massive kick in the teeth that some players who finished thousands of places behind may have got a free copy from dumb luck.
And I am far from the worst impacted.
DB has very often given crew or high amounts of honor for such issues. I therefore took a gamble and went for the top 1000. It was hard, but I made it. I knew there would be some kind of universal payout, such as chronitons, but I gambled that them sending out a Data was possible. My gamble paid dividends.
If this kind of thing happens in the future, I intend to keep fighting and gamble once more. Sitting back and doing nothing was another possible gamble. That one didn't pay off.
The very least they should do is give us back the chrons we needlessly spent
The guys that got a Data by mistake got down, plain and simple. I am happy they got a guy that most of them can likely use. Likely most of them were playing their little noob hearts out and deserve some good fortune.
I finished ranked 200 and won a Data but even with a 5/5 Data, the guys who got him for free have very little chance of beating me in the next event ….(which is both bragging and a fact)
I got my free Data and some honor that I did not expect so I am good all-around. And to the guys who got a Data by mistake..... Congrats guys!
Then why go for top 1500 (presumably top 1000)? You don't try for top 1k for the extra trainers and merits; you go for the 5* reward. I get that they might want 18k honor over Data, but they got either a "forced" 5* citation for Data or what they wanted in the first place (the 5* ranked reward) but couldn't get for whatever reason (either the bug or not able to score high enough anyway).
It bugs me that those 1500+ players that didn't get Data from the "lottery" won't be getting him. I honestly don't care if everyone else gets Data, even if I had to work my tail off to get him in top 1k. I got him, and that what matters to me. I'm fine with others who didn't earn it getting him. This is a rare issue, and maybe if I spent money trying to get him, I might would be upset. But no one knew that this issue would happen. And if we did, then we all would have been rank 1000000 because no one would have tried.
Meantime Im over here struggling to get him in event packs. The intital compensation looked like it might do the trick but the screw up on top of the screw up was even worse
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Sadly you are not alone. Those are crons that we can't use in the next event that those who got a free Data could use
Let me tell you a story of a young(ish?) girl...
She plays STT, and she really loves skirmish events, because, you see, she has no life. So, she is free to grind away at skirmish battles until her chrons give out. She saved chrons for over a month for our most recent skirmish event, she went through multiple back and forths with CS after Polywater was nerfed (a crew she obtained for the sole purpose of using it in skirmish events), and she was mostly okay with its resolution for one key reason- she got 8,290 chrons in a mail (to account for resorces spent leveling that Yar) that she could use for her next skirmish.
So, with the next skirmish upcoming, she spends boosts to rank well for Musketeer Picard, on the off-chance that he'll have a decent ship ability.
Eh, it turns out to not be too bad. She uses him. It's a good thing, because it turns out Minuet wasn't providing the right bonus at the beginning anyway. It's like a mega event tradition at this point, honestly.
So, in the skirmish, she spends her stash of about 27,000 chrons, in addition to 3 supply kits, the mail with 8,290 chrons, and a hell of a lot of time.
She racks up over 7 million VP playing entirely by hand.
The player who ended 6th had been playing pretty continuously until his score flatlined with several hours left on the event. The player who ended 4th somehow spent the last 38 hours of the event playing nonstop to overtake her. Whatever.
She ends up 5th. With a 3/5 Silva.
The next event, she does a pretty decent kickstart. Figures she might as well use her Silva to get a Data. Except, then she hears reports of some kind of programming error in the second half. They aren't getting the right bonus. So, to check things out for herself, she plays a couple of rounds. And then just gives up on it.
Because this is not the first, or second, or even third time something like this has happened.
So she ranks 2,800 or something.
So, a bunch of time boosts, 35,000 chrons, three supply kits, and more than 5,600 skirmish battles later...
She gets 18,000 honor for this issue. Some other guy who played a lot less got a 1/5 Data and 18,000 honor because he got lucky.
Tl;dr: I'm not okay with this "fix." I'm not done yet. Stay tuned, kids. Don't try this at home.
I probably spent around 8k in crons trying to get Data only to find other players got a copy for free.
All that time and effort was for literally nothing. Not even the honour and items you get from Skirmishes