I don’t think I’ll come close as I’m not able to monitor the shuttles coming in as I’d need to. Its nice they upped the rewards but did it for the wrong events, these are 400k yet galaxies are just 130k. I just don’t have the time or desire to pay such close attention to a game so if I get there I get there if I don’t then que sera sera. Would have been nice to get that last star for Troi but not at the expense it would require. Crossing fingers for those who are trying for it, I hope you can make the end!
You’re right on. Galaxy, skirmish, and expedition are way more likely for a player to be able to reach 400k but also faction is the most profitable so there’s your answer. I would not have to do anything extra to hit 400 in those other three events but I do in a faction.
Only vaguely disagree.
It's certainly doable in Galaxy events ,but it usually requires some combination of Chron-Hording and/or Pre-Farming.
Factions are more about crew depth; If you've got the right crew, you're only burning boosts during the event, and don't have to worry about saving up other resources.
Skirmishes are about how much literal time you can put in, given you gave X number of chrons to start. Bouncing means you can start with 2-3k chrons and easily hit top 100k.
But I still feel like I have a better chance of being able to 'pick and choose' a skirmish or faction event to go after versus a Galaxy. The prefarming and/or input chrons are just out of my desire to go at them. Unless I happen to have the right items around, I'll need anywhere from 1000-2000 chrons to get through threshold.
tl;dr- I do think factions are still doable, but non-whales will have to be more discretionary about picking their battles (Which means DB should get gud at putting stats up earlier.) No, I still don't think Troi should have been at 400k and I'm still frustrated.
Update for lil please me.
I'm 220K. I've just sent 6 shuttles off at 9hrs. I have about 12 timeboosts left.
I might be able to hit the portal pull but I'm not confident that I'll get GoE by the end of the event.
I am going to be controversial: I like the 400K gold placing. I know a lot of people don't, but I feel as though I'm engaging with the game and managing resources more carefully.
Like a game of Bridge, the odds aren't always in your favour, so you should only expect to win 75% of games. That's what makes it exciting. I have felt that hitting threshold in every event quite boring, and I can never compete in Rank a lot of the time because I'm VIP0. Having a higher threshold has made things so much more interesting, even in shuttles.
OK, so I'll probably not get GoE Troi. Maybe if I save up my boosts and shuttle tokens over the next 2 or 3 faction events I can try to "win" the next one - "winning" being "hitting threshold".
If the other events also had more rewards above the 120K that is currently in place, I would probably have to strategize more, using my resources more wisely. I find that hitting threshold 4 hours into the event and then playing blind for the next 4 days, failing to hit Rank, and you've lost all those resources and nothing to show for it. At least higher thresholds will give you a little something... And maybe I would go easy on a few of them, just to recover and rebuild.
Disclaimer: all my opinion.
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I have watched faction events slide from being my favorite event down to someplace close to stubbing my little toe on the coffee table. While I can understand the monetization of the event, at what point does it become excessive? And to see cases where people believe it is somehow reasonable to be sending shuttles every 1.5 hours in order to stay competitive is a bit disturbing when you consider that these same sleep deprived people may be on the road the next morning. I understand nobody is being forced to play at that level, and I no longer feel the need, but there are people out there who may not be able to do this. Best of luck to those people, and stay off the roads, okay?
I do this on factions I want to rank high in AND I am in the business of moving about 1500 cars in a 12 hour day. It’s all good in the hood
now, I may have the perfect crew I know I'll never hit all thresholds, it is something that has become unattainable (for Faction events) unless I spend money on this game ...
Nope. When you have the perfect crew/right crew as you say for a shuttle event saving up the boosts from the thursday cadet challenges for a month is enough now where we can double the rewards from them. Especially if you also stock up some shuttle tokens etc. from the new threshold. While sending the shuttles takes no time after having found the right missions/crew in these events we still have to live by the game clock though. So for ranking I also prefer other events...
P.S.: When you neither want to invest time (as you also said) nor money you also cannot expect to get everything you want all the time. While you say your goals are humble, that is unrealistic in these kind of games. Those who invest effort, cash or both of course will get and have more than people who play casual as you described it for yourself. For those players DB also offers enough goodies: As you said - you have Cornwell & BR Bashir who you rate higher than GOE Troi anyway, just for playing in your way.
I'm engaging with the game and managing resources more carefully.
And maybe I would go easy on a few of them, just to recover and rebuild.
You nailed it. Next to other things STT is a resource management game. And so picking your "battles" carefully goes a long way. I don´t feel the need to go fullsteam every event. I build up, prepare for one I like. And when I attack it goes smooth. If we make good choices, have a clear line and strategy we will also get what we want...
At halfway point I am at 176k which means I would make 350k threshold but end up around 370k plus two rewards coming up so 380k
Watch this space
Now at 226k with possible 208k left. Aka need 81% to reach 400k
The 2 shuttle tokens brought in extra 8k.
Now the double rewards can bring in another 8k if successful so 3/4 shuttle success can see me through
47000 away from Troi.
I normally do not use a lot of speed ups in Faction Events, but this round I did.
With Mirror Troi, Apollo, and Platonian Kirk FFFEd going into the event helped. (The three of them rock out "To Heal With a Touch" when I used quick speed ups)
I had Survivalist Kirk FEd with one star
Admiral Kirk FEd with two Stars
Bridge Officer Troi was very helpful
Durango Troi FEd at 2 stars was also helpful.
Mintakan Troi was also moderately helpful FFFEd.
Nexus Kirk and Romulan Kirk are FFFEd, but not so helpful
Rakal Troi is FFFEd, but I don't think I've used her once.
I tried running a 5th shuttle with very little success, I've banked on my main four.
This event should be pretty easy to hit the 400k. It is far less competitive than the previous faction event.
- running the same 4 Bajoran missions (2 3-seaters, Perfect Followers, and Seeking Muse)
- with 3* skill boosts, my success rates are 92%, 89%, 88%, 88%
- did my normal kickstart (11 x 3* speed boosts, 2 x 4* speed boosts)
- have not used any other boosts aside from the kickstart and 3* skill boosts
- have not used any shuttle requisition tokens
- slept through an alarm and missed an entire 3-hour wave of 4k shuttles (12,800 - 16,000 points)
- I should be around 335,000 points at the 3/4 point of the event
I've been hovering in the 500-800 rank for most of the event, after missing that one wave of shuttles.
This event should be pretty easy to hit the 400k. It is far less competitive than the previous faction event.
- running the same 4 Bajoran missions (2 3-seaters, Perfect Followers, and Seeking Muse)
- with 3* skill boosts, my success rates are 92%, 89%, 88%, 88%
- did my normal kickstart (11 x 3* speed boosts, 2 x 4* speed boosts)
- have not used any other boosts aside from the kickstart and 3* skill boosts
- have not used any shuttle requisition tokens
- slept through an alarm and missed an entire 3-hour wave of 4k shuttles (12,800 - 16,000 points)
- I should be around 335,000 points at the 3/4 point of the event
I've been hovering in the 500-800 rank for most of the event, after missing that one wave of shuttles.
How does the relative competitiveness of the event equal hitting 400k? Not everyone has your crew, so people are not sending out 4 shuttles around 90% like you can. I know plenty of players with pretty solid rosters who are having a hard time accumulating VP. Some even have high success rates shown similar to yours but are getting terrible RNG. To "easily" hit 400k it likely takes a deep roster or a lot of speed boosts.
Like I said, there are people who cannot help themselves. I don't do it myself.
Edit: I had a look, studies suggest 20% of vehicle accidents are the direct result of driving while fatigued. Enough drama for you?
That's just the tip of the iceberg. DB have done a lot worse than this.
Just look at what has happened in the world because of DB since Timelines launched. The resurgence of right-wing fascism, Brexit, increase in racist attacks and hate crimes, Trump, graphics card prices, forest fires, Toblerone resizing. DB have so much to answer for. Can't someone at DB please think of the children?!
... Not everyone has your crew, so people are not sending out 4 shuttles around 90% like you can. I know plenty of players with pretty solid rosters who are having a hard time accumulating VP. ...
Hmmm, I suppose it just depends on whether your roster (whether depth or strength) happens to line up with this event.
I didn't think mine would be all that great pre-game but have been able to hold steady at about 88-90% average. What surprised me is that 5 of my 13 chosen seats are filled by non-event crew who also happen to be legendaries at 5/5, fortunately recently finished off (and I do NOT have a lot of those - I've just focused over last several months' citations on FF those with the best base skill stats). What I learned this event after sitting down with pen and paper is that 3/5 and 4/5 non-event-crew golds can certainly be played in events, but aren't equivalent replacements for 4*, 2x bonus event crew and because of seat-averaging drag the event bonus scores down. But the right few 5/5s are and can help make up for a weak event crew bench, especially when the good "AND" seat missions are few and far between. Up until a couple of months ago I had been citing my golds up to 3/5 and then leaving the rest for lucky begolds, but I've since relaxed that strategy for the best base skill ones.
Not preaching at you just sharing what I learned :-)
I am sitting at 340k. Hoping to crack 350 with my next shuttle returns. It might be close, but I think I can manage the 400k by the end. Still, this was a super high bar to set for the last threshold.
I doubt I'll hit 400, but I'm also not being judicious with every 3 hours. I'm also not tempted by the 5* troi in the least. If I get the premium pull, I'll be satisfied with the honor I get from that.
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... Not everyone has your crew, so people are not sending out 4 shuttles around 90% like you can. I know plenty of players with pretty solid rosters who are having a hard time accumulating VP. ...
Hmmm, I suppose it just depends on whether your roster (whether depth or strength) happens to line up with this event.
I didn't think mine would be all that great pre-game but have been able to hold steady at about 88-90% average. What surprised me is that 5 of my 13 chosen seats are filled by non-event crew who also happen to be legendaries at 5/5, fortunately recently finished off (and I do NOT have a lot of those - I've just focused over last several months' citations on FF those with the best base skill stats). What I learned this event after sitting down with pen and paper is that 3/5 and 4/5 non-event-crew golds can certainly be played in events, but aren't equivalent replacements for 4*, 2x bonus event crew and because of seat-averaging drag the event bonus scores down. But the right few 5/5s are and can help make up for a weak event crew bench, especially when the good "AND" seat missions are few and far between. Up until a couple of months ago I had been citing my golds up to 3/5 and then leaving the rest for lucky begolds, but I've since relaxed that strategy for the best base skill ones.
Not preaching at you just sharing what I learned :-)
Good info, i just wish i had enough solid crew. I have 2 good shuttles then a big dropoff while normally 3 and then a decent 4th. This event is bad for my roster because I have only 2 event crew and a lack of MED depth. It seems that this event in particular has been great for some and then bad for some. All or nothing. Somewhere in the rankings I suspect a big gap exists, not sure where it sits at though.
This event should be pretty easy to hit the 400k. It is far less competitive than the previous faction event.
- running the same 4 Bajoran missions (2 3-seaters, Perfect Followers, and Seeking Muse)
- with 3* skill boosts, my success rates are 92%, 89%, 88%, 88%
- did my normal kickstart (11 x 3* speed boosts, 2 x 4* speed boosts)
- have not used any other boosts aside from the kickstart and 3* skill boosts
- have not used any shuttle requisition tokens
- slept through an alarm and missed an entire 3-hour wave of 4k shuttles (12,800 - 16,000 points)
- I should be around 335,000 points at the 3/4 point of the event
I've been hovering in the 500-800 rank for most of the event, after missing that one wave of shuttles.
How does the relative competitiveness of the event equal hitting 400k? Not everyone has your crew, so people are not sending out 4 shuttles around 90% like you can. I know plenty of players with pretty solid rosters who are having a hard time accumulating VP. Some even have high success rates shown similar to yours but are getting terrible RNG. To "easily" hit 400k it likely takes a deep roster or a lot of speed boosts.
I can confirm this. The 13 bonus crew I have is less than usual but could still be useful if it weren’t for the ridiculous number of SCI slots in both the Bajoran and Ferengi missions. Of my 13 bonus crew, four aren’t even in use right now because my top five SCI base crew are all on these missions instead. Thankfully, 2018 has been quite kind to my science division and I have enough heavy hitters to at least keep my success rates generally in the low to mid 70s with some just over 80 and a couple closer to 65. For those without multiple immortal 5* SCI crew (plus Princess Jadzia), I can only imagine how demoralizing the mission design is right now.
I wanted the troi but thats a no go so going for the voyage revival token. Might make it...might not!!
Yeah. My shuttles have been really bad. I had one borked one that failed so often I switched it out for a lesser mission, hopefully I make it to the voyage token but it's fingers crossed at this stage. This event has been terrible for me.
I can confirm this. The 13 bonus crew I have is less than usual but could still be useful if it weren’t for the ridiculous number of SCI slots in both the Bajoran and Ferengi missions. Of my 13 bonus crew, four aren’t even in use right now because my top five SCI base crew are all on these missions instead. Thankfully, 2018 has been quite kind to my science division and I have enough heavy hitters to at least keep my success rates generally in the low to mid 70s with some just over 80 and a couple closer to 65. For those without multiple immortal 5* SCI crew (plus Princess Jadzia), I can only imagine how demoralizing the mission design is right now.
I only have 6 bonus crew and I decided to let all the SCI missions expire. I'm wasting tons of factions missions this way, but I'm going for 1k and that's the only way I may get there.
I can confirm this. The 13 bonus crew I have is less than usual but could still be useful if it weren’t for the ridiculous number of SCI slots in both the Bajoran and Ferengi missions. Of my 13 bonus crew, four aren’t even in use right now because my top five SCI base crew are all on these missions instead. Thankfully, 2018 has been quite kind to my science division and I have enough heavy hitters to at least keep my success rates generally in the low to mid 70s with some just over 80 and a couple closer to 65. For those without multiple immortal 5* SCI crew (plus Princess Jadzia), I can only imagine how demoralizing the mission design is right now.
I only have 6 bonus crew and I decided to let all the SCI missions expire. I'm wasting tons of factions missions this way, but I'm going for 1k and that's the only way I may get there.
I don't normally do that (wait out undesirable faction missions) but I have to agree with you for this event. It doesn't even make sense that there are so many science and engineering seats. Mintakan Troi is the only Deanna with science, and Survivalist Kirk is the only sci/eng Kirk (who is extremely limited crew).
By rough estimate, cherry picking for me this event was worth about an additional 50,000 VP. It should be part of any shuttle event win strategy. [5KQ now hopes that most of the competition doesn't patrol the forums, and braces for the ire of players that preferred to keep that tip within their fleets]
Cherry picking the same 4 shuttles every time is crucial if you want to be consistent and quick to relaunch them again and again. and besides those 4 unused missions hang there for 12 hours, so in 4 day period you go thru 8 sets of them, that turns out to be just 4 extra mission pulls @75 merits, so 300 merits for optimizing your shuttles (or 600 if you play both sides).. so worth it.
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I still feel that it's harsh to aim for 400k for an existing 5* crewmember it should be 150k-200k
A top 1k finish gets a new 5* for the next event which will be 450k or so
Using a kickstart with 3star timeboosts to make 4000VP missions, using about 4x double reward boosts, using timers time my shuttles, using only a few tokens because I can get a 5th shuttle only to 80% success and using only 3x 4star timeboosts on my best shuttle.
All this and I'm top 600. I will make 400.000 VP with about 12 hours to spare, so that's quite a struggle I think.
This has been a tough faction event for me as I only have the necessary crew to run 2 shuttles at 88% and the others under 75% I can mix and match and get maybe 3 at 78-80ish and one then dips to sub 70. But I figured I'd rather take the "guaranteed" 4k vp every 1 hour or 1.5 hours as I'm mixing up the time reducers.
With that said, it's been tough as quite a few of my "guaranteed" shuttles have failed over the past two days. It'll take a while for me to replinish my stash after going for Captain spock and trying for a 2nd star on GoE Troi
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Only vaguely disagree.
It's certainly doable in Galaxy events ,but it usually requires some combination of Chron-Hording and/or Pre-Farming.
Factions are more about crew depth; If you've got the right crew, you're only burning boosts during the event, and don't have to worry about saving up other resources.
Skirmishes are about how much literal time you can put in, given you gave X number of chrons to start. Bouncing means you can start with 2-3k chrons and easily hit top 100k.
But I still feel like I have a better chance of being able to 'pick and choose' a skirmish or faction event to go after versus a Galaxy. The prefarming and/or input chrons are just out of my desire to go at them. Unless I happen to have the right items around, I'll need anywhere from 1000-2000 chrons to get through threshold.
tl;dr- I do think factions are still doable, but non-whales will have to be more discretionary about picking their battles (Which means DB should get gud at putting stats up earlier.) No, I still don't think Troi should have been at 400k and I'm still frustrated.
I'm 220K. I've just sent 6 shuttles off at 9hrs. I have about 12 timeboosts left.
I might be able to hit the portal pull but I'm not confident that I'll get GoE by the end of the event.
I am going to be controversial: I like the 400K gold placing. I know a lot of people don't, but I feel as though I'm engaging with the game and managing resources more carefully.
Like a game of Bridge, the odds aren't always in your favour, so you should only expect to win 75% of games. That's what makes it exciting. I have felt that hitting threshold in every event quite boring, and I can never compete in Rank a lot of the time because I'm VIP0. Having a higher threshold has made things so much more interesting, even in shuttles.
OK, so I'll probably not get GoE Troi. Maybe if I save up my boosts and shuttle tokens over the next 2 or 3 faction events I can try to "win" the next one - "winning" being "hitting threshold".
If the other events also had more rewards above the 120K that is currently in place, I would probably have to strategize more, using my resources more wisely. I find that hitting threshold 4 hours into the event and then playing blind for the next 4 days, failing to hit Rank, and you've lost all those resources and nothing to show for it. At least higher thresholds will give you a little something... And maybe I would go easy on a few of them, just to recover and rebuild.
Disclaimer: all my opinion.
I do this on factions I want to rank high in AND I am in the business of moving about 1500 cars in a 12 hour day. It’s all good in the hood
Nope. When you have the perfect crew/right crew as you say for a shuttle event saving up the boosts from the thursday cadet challenges for a month is enough now where we can double the rewards from them. Especially if you also stock up some shuttle tokens etc. from the new threshold. While sending the shuttles takes no time after having found the right missions/crew in these events we still have to live by the game clock though. So for ranking I also prefer other events...
P.S.: When you neither want to invest time (as you also said) nor money you also cannot expect to get everything you want all the time. While you say your goals are humble, that is unrealistic in these kind of games. Those who invest effort, cash or both of course will get and have more than people who play casual as you described it for yourself. For those players DB also offers enough goodies: As you said - you have Cornwell & BR Bashir who you rate higher than GOE Troi anyway, just for playing in your way.
You nailed it. Next to other things STT is a resource management game. And so picking your "battles" carefully goes a long way. I don´t feel the need to go fullsteam every event. I build up, prepare for one I like. And when I attack it goes smooth. If we make good choices, have a clear line and strategy we will also get what we want...
Now at 226k with possible 208k left. Aka need 81% to reach 400k
The 2 shuttle tokens brought in extra 8k.
Now the double rewards can bring in another 8k if successful so 3/4 shuttle success can see me through
I normally do not use a lot of speed ups in Faction Events, but this round I did.
With Mirror Troi, Apollo, and Platonian Kirk FFFEd going into the event helped. (The three of them rock out "To Heal With a Touch" when I used quick speed ups)
I had Survivalist Kirk FEd with one star
Admiral Kirk FEd with two Stars
Bridge Officer Troi was very helpful
Durango Troi FEd at 2 stars was also helpful.
Mintakan Troi was also moderately helpful FFFEd.
Nexus Kirk and Romulan Kirk are FFFEd, but not so helpful
Rakal Troi is FFFEd, but I don't think I've used her once.
I tried running a 5th shuttle with very little success, I've banked on my main four.
- running the same 4 Bajoran missions (2 3-seaters, Perfect Followers, and Seeking Muse)
- with 3* skill boosts, my success rates are 92%, 89%, 88%, 88%
- did my normal kickstart (11 x 3* speed boosts, 2 x 4* speed boosts)
- have not used any other boosts aside from the kickstart and 3* skill boosts
- have not used any shuttle requisition tokens
- slept through an alarm and missed an entire 3-hour wave of 4k shuttles (12,800 - 16,000 points)
- I should be around 335,000 points at the 3/4 point of the event
I've been hovering in the 500-800 rank for most of the event, after missing that one wave of shuttles.
How does the relative competitiveness of the event equal hitting 400k? Not everyone has your crew, so people are not sending out 4 shuttles around 90% like you can. I know plenty of players with pretty solid rosters who are having a hard time accumulating VP. Some even have high success rates shown similar to yours but are getting terrible RNG. To "easily" hit 400k it likely takes a deep roster or a lot of speed boosts.
That's just the tip of the iceberg. DB have done a lot worse than this.
Just look at what has happened in the world because of DB since Timelines launched. The resurgence of right-wing fascism, Brexit, increase in racist attacks and hate crimes, Trump, graphics card prices, forest fires, Toblerone resizing. DB have so much to answer for. Can't someone at DB please think of the children?!
Now at 240K. Only 2 out of the 6 shuttles were successful
Hmmm, I suppose it just depends on whether your roster (whether depth or strength) happens to line up with this event.
I didn't think mine would be all that great pre-game but have been able to hold steady at about 88-90% average. What surprised me is that 5 of my 13 chosen seats are filled by non-event crew who also happen to be legendaries at 5/5, fortunately recently finished off (and I do NOT have a lot of those - I've just focused over last several months' citations on FF those with the best base skill stats). What I learned this event after sitting down with pen and paper is that 3/5 and 4/5 non-event-crew golds can certainly be played in events, but aren't equivalent replacements for 4*, 2x bonus event crew and because of seat-averaging drag the event bonus scores down. But the right few 5/5s are and can help make up for a weak event crew bench, especially when the good "AND" seat missions are few and far between. Up until a couple of months ago I had been citing my golds up to 3/5 and then leaving the rest for lucky begolds, but I've since relaxed that strategy for the best base skill ones.
Not preaching at you just sharing what I learned :-)
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Good info, i just wish i had enough solid crew. I have 2 good shuttles then a big dropoff while normally 3 and then a decent 4th. This event is bad for my roster because I have only 2 event crew and a lack of MED depth. It seems that this event in particular has been great for some and then bad for some. All or nothing. Somewhere in the rankings I suspect a big gap exists, not sure where it sits at though.
I can confirm this. The 13 bonus crew I have is less than usual but could still be useful if it weren’t for the ridiculous number of SCI slots in both the Bajoran and Ferengi missions. Of my 13 bonus crew, four aren’t even in use right now because my top five SCI base crew are all on these missions instead. Thankfully, 2018 has been quite kind to my science division and I have enough heavy hitters to at least keep my success rates generally in the low to mid 70s with some just over 80 and a couple closer to 65. For those without multiple immortal 5* SCI crew (plus Princess Jadzia), I can only imagine how demoralizing the mission design is right now.
Yeah. My shuttles have been really bad. I had one borked one that failed so often I switched it out for a lesser mission, hopefully I make it to the voyage token but it's fingers crossed at this stage. This event has been terrible for me.
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Genuinely couldn't call it!
I only have 6 bonus crew and I decided to let all the SCI missions expire. I'm wasting tons of factions missions this way, but I'm going for 1k and that's the only way I may get there.
I don't normally do that (wait out undesirable faction missions) but I have to agree with you for this event. It doesn't even make sense that there are so many science and engineering seats. Mintakan Troi is the only Deanna with science, and Survivalist Kirk is the only sci/eng Kirk (who is extremely limited crew).
I still feel that it's harsh to aim for 400k for an existing 5* crewmember it should be 150k-200k
A top 1k finish gets a new 5* for the next event which will be 450k or so
All this and I'm top 600. I will make 400.000 VP with about 12 hours to spare, so that's quite a struggle I think.
With that said, it's been tough as quite a few of my "guaranteed" shuttles have failed over the past two days. It'll take a while for me to replinish my stash after going for Captain spock and trying for a 2nd star on GoE Troi