Current viability of hitting 400K target?
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I'm having a bit of a senior moment, was there a thread, either here or in the Ready Room, discussing the viability of the 400K VP target for this Event? Did I imagine that, or was it called something else? Or was it deleted/moved?
I'm asking because I thought that amidst the debate someone had posted a useful table showing the VP results running 4 shuttles at various success rates over the course of the 4 days that I wanted to consult.
I'm at 116,467 VP right now as of 12:45am early Saturday morning EST having already burned through half my 3-star time boosts (about 30-something), so I'm trying to project just how probable getting to Goddess of Empathy Troi would be without completely depleting my reserve. 4 shuttles are running anywhere from 50%-80% success rate. Ish.
EDIT: Nevermind on the thread search, I found it:
https://forum.disruptorbeam.com/stt/discussion/12269/threshold-for-re-run-of-faction-events
I'm asking because I thought that amidst the debate someone had posted a useful table showing the VP results running 4 shuttles at various success rates over the course of the 4 days that I wanted to consult.
I'm at 116,467 VP right now as of 12:45am early Saturday morning EST having already burned through half my 3-star time boosts (about 30-something), so I'm trying to project just how probable getting to Goddess of Empathy Troi would be without completely depleting my reserve. 4 shuttles are running anywhere from 50%-80% success rate. Ish.
EDIT: Nevermind on the thread search, I found it:
https://forum.disruptorbeam.com/stt/discussion/12269/threshold-for-re-run-of-faction-events
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Yeah, I have 34 3*s left, I don't know if it's worth using them. I guess I'll have a better sense on the back nine.
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Also be smart stat boost poor success rate and time boost better ones.
Even better might be just to time boost best and stat boost the rest.
Edit2: keep in mind what difficulty you are. If shuttle is 4000 VP it is the most difficult (stat boosting might be better) if at lower difficulty 3500VP or less time boost might be the choice. Remember failures can drop your shuttles VP and successes can raise it. When you drop in VP that is the time to think of time boost, since difficulty drops.
Edit: to see the shuttles VP click on the missions VP icon.
Right, I already switched from time boosts to stat boosts once I hit 4000 VP shuttles at some point on Friday. Or, rather, I was doing a hybrid of 2-3 shuttles on stat boost, and time boosting any shuttle mission that was giving me a natural success chance of over 80%. But, I'm finding my stat boosts aren't really doing a lot for me. Maybe 10% increase on average. I don't think I have a great crew complement for this particular event, other than Platonic Kirk and a fair selection of Trois.
Crew is always the main factor.
I cherry pick. I am only using the three seater shuttles in both factions.
Same, the four 3 seaters (95, 95, 93 & 90% w/3* boosts) for me. Cherry picking the missions I run and staying on top of turning shuttles throughout the day are the big things for me.
VP = 4000 * Prob(Pass) + 800 * (1-Prob(Pass))
and you can experiment with the impacts of time halving by multiplying by 2, skill boosting by modifying Prob(Pass), or changes to 4000 VP payout if you can't sustain 4000. Let's say your P(Pass) is 65% (you say 50-80% success). 2*(4000*.65 + 800*.35) = 2 * 2880 = 5760 VP / 3 hrs. A 100% success rate mission run once in the same 3 hours would still only be 4000 VP / 3 hrs, by comparison. Even two missions at 3200 VP payout and the same P(Pass) yield more VP than a single 4000 @ 100%, on average.
Prob(Pass) has to be extraordinarily low for skill boosts to be attractive, if you still have time boosts left. 1600 points from two failed missions is nothing to sneeze at. The real question is whether you think you've accumulated enough time boosts to meet your goal in this event, or want to save them for an all-out push in a different event (which of course is exactly what you're asking). If I have enough time boosts, I only switch to skill or some other boost once I've made it to a position I want to hold on to, and then use them sparingly afterwards to help guard it, saving my remaining time boosts for the next event. That's a VERY conservative strategy ... a more reasonable one would be to base it on whether I'm still climbing, holding steady, or falling in rank, since that would give an indication of how quickly others are running out of time boosts.
Sprinting to make it to the front of the pack in the first half of a marathon may not matter if one runs out of juice and can't make it to the finish...
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Unfortunately, this event seems to make heavy use of SCI and there are very few bonus crew for that stat.
Slightly more practical answer: at 1:00 AM this morning you had a little less than 2.5 days left, or about 19 3-hour cycles left. That's 76 missions over your 4 shuttles to work with.
You were at 116,467 VP and want to get to 400,000 VP. That's a 283K gap.
Your average success rate might be something like 65% (you said 50-80%, and assuming that's un-skill-boosted). Assuming you used every cycle on time, and could hold a 4000 VP payout level, you might expect to earn:
76 * (4000*.65 + 800*.35) = 218K
So you have to come up with (283K-218K) plus whatever comfort margin you want to get GoE (assuming no margin, that's 65,000 VP.
Your average payout if 4000 VP level / 65% would be 2880 / mission. So you'd need 22 extra missions (i.e., time doublers) to close the gap, if you time boosted alone. (On the upside, you're well on track to get the 10 pack pull at 350K with a smattering of skill boosts).
For GoE, lets say your skill boosts added +10% on average. That would yield:
76 * (+ 4000*.1 - 800*.1) = 24,320 extra VP. Not enough to close the 65K gap from skill alone, you'd need 3x that and no skill boost adds that much.
So, the answer is probably: GoE is within your reach, but yes, you'd have to use every cycle, and then all your remaining time doublers, and then some combination of skill boosts, 3-hour reward doublers, cherry picking missions at the expense of credits, and/or possibly some of the rent-a-shuttles earned this or last shuttle event (maybe with a 9-hour reward doubler or something). Or something like 200-400 dil in boost pack buys to get the remaining time doublers you needed.
If you're not able to hold to the 4000 VP difficulty level, the bar might be too far for this one without spending money on boost packs. This was a pretty rough event in terms of bonus crew....
P.S. Only up to 147,426VP after my assorted overnight missions completed.
Good idea, though I think that might be happening naturally through the skill breakdown of the 3-seat shuttle missions. I'll do a more thorough investigation when these current ones complete, though.
You’re right on. Galaxy, skirmish, and expedition are way more likely for a player to be able to reach 400k but also faction is the most profitable so there’s your answer. I would not have to do anything extra to hit 400 in those other three events but I do in a faction.
Watch this space
- I've used 15 3* time boosts (11 during ramp up and 4 after to get in an extra set Thursday night)
- I still have 18 Shuttle Tokens (used 2 last event)
- I still have 2 2x boosts from last event.
- Currently at just under 175k ... which puts me at Rank 1499 (as I write this).
I have to say ... I have found the reward structure with the 5* at 400k to be massively demoralising. Sure, I might make 350k like last time (just) and that was quite exciting ... but to know that I have to spend money or start dedicating real life time to playing the game to reach the 5* is just ... well, demoralising as I said.
In the past, I used to love Faction events ... it was the first event-type I ever made top 1000 in and I felt that was because I had built up a decent crew over a long time. I also felt that it was an event-type that fit well with my life, I could play the game and do well without having it interfering in daily life (2 kids, a partner, a stressful job, outdoor hobbies (butterfly/dragonfly monitoring) etc.).
When I first started, I knew that all I needed to get all Threshold rewards was to get a better overal crew ... now, I may have the perfect crew I know I'll never hit all thresholds, it is something that has become unattainable (for Faction events) unless I spend money on this game ... I did in the past (early 2017 - couple of monthly cards and a deal) but saw that with time I could achieve the same, I just needed patience. That point is now unachievable.
I don't mind that certain things are unachievable for a player who doesn't spend on the game ... top ranks etc. ... I have humble goals that I have patience for to be able to meet ... but to not even be able to get the "basic" stuff after more than 2 years of playing the game (started about June 2016) ... that's a slap in the face for me.
It is funny how fast it happens, but this change has quickly sapped the fun out of the game for me ... I still enjoy the other event-types ... but Factions will be low participation from me form here on out.
Ah well.
I think DB decided to aim the 5* Empress Troi for the top 1k of players based on the last Faction events result, rather than at the 150k mark that the 5* was previously positioned. Personally I think 200k would've been a better target.
DB keep forgetting that the game is built on goodwill, as well as selling offers at a lower cost to the majority of players who do play on a budget, rather than keep pushing the players with the most disposable income into spending more as many of them have been upset by DB and are now spending their money elsewhere.
The players who should be targetted are those from 26- 650 & 1001 to 10k
over dramatic much? Theres no need to send 1.5 hour shuttles thru the night...
Edit: I had a look, studies suggest 20% of vehicle accidents are the direct result of driving while fatigued. Enough drama for you?
So what?