At halfway point I am at 176k which means I would make 350k threshold but end up around 370k plus two rewards coming up so 380k
Watch this space
Now at 226k with possible 208k left. Aka need 81% to reach 400k
The 2 shuttle tokens brought in extra 8k.
Now the double rewards can bring in another 8k if successful so 3/4 shuttle success can see me through
At 6 pm with 18 hours left at 304K
Would estimate final score to be 382K allowing 75% success.
Had called exactly that 18 hours back. The game and rngjesus is consistent.
Thanks
Utter time mismanagement for me this weekend regarding the game (real life was just fine) means I’m probably not even going to be able to fully fuse my 2/4 Platonism Kirk, or maybe not even get a third star.
While I had no issues making the thresholds, I am surprised at the massive disparity in points for the second 5* (in a non-mega event) between events. 5* Bateson was available for 150k (if I am not mistaken), a far cry from the 400k for Empathy Troi. Yes, I understand that Bateson was available in a faction/Galaxy hybrid with a different reward structure; however, 400k for Empathy Troi is a bit excessive and unrealistic in a solely faction event. I do wonder how many people will actually make all the thresholds in this event? Just my two cents...
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I don't play on Friday nights and Saturdays, and yet I'm in the top 1000. I've spent most of Sunday either doing work around the house, shopping for the week or visiting the out-laws, and I haven't spent any dil. Yes, you can do it. No, you don't need to wake up every 90 minutes to send shuttles for another go 'round.
Hear hear. I am at 350K with 10 hours to go and 9 timeboosts.
My hitting threshold really is down to RNG now.
Regardless, I'm in the points bracket I knew I would reach....
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All this talk of "threshold and out" has finally hit DB's ears, and this was their response. Threshold and out will no longer be the realm of the 'middle class', as it were. I've never been a top 1000, and fine with that, but I could always clear thresholds rather easily. DB has ensured that this casual style of gameplay for me is no longer feasible. Shame. If this will be the new norm, then we'll have to see how long it takes me to be demoralized enough to quit.
And I'm a double VP14, so it's not like they didn't get their pound of flesh out of me. I'm not asking for everything for nothing, just asking to not have the rug pulled out from under me with the goal line always stretched out of reach.
Edit: in case the tone didn't convey it, I ain't making threshold. I doubt I'll even get the behold on this killer, skewed challenge.
All this talk of "threshold and out" has finally hit DB's ears, and this was their response. Threshold and out will no longer be the realm of the 'middle class', as it were. I've never been a top 1000, and fine with that, but I could always clear thresholds rather easily. DB has ensured that this casual style of gameplay for me is no longer feasible. Shame. If this will be the new norm, then we'll have to see how long it takes me to be demoralized enough to quit.
And I'm a double VP14, so it's not like they didn't get their pound of flesh out of me. I'm not asking for everything for nothing, just asking to not have the rug pulled out from under me with the goal line always stretched out of reach.
Edit: in case the tone didn't convey it, I ain't making threshold. I doubt I'll even get the behold on this killer, skewed challenge.
I'm single VIP0. I would class myself as a casual player. I'm 25K off threshold.
I'm saying it - I LIKE what they've done. It's made it more of a challenge, it's made me think and plan better, it's made it EXCITING!
Fleet Admiral of NCC UK Midlands."Leave any bigotry in your quarters. There's no room for it on the bridge." - J.T. Kirk, 2266
I'm about 4 completed shuttles from 400k and in 1200th place with 386k. I didn't reallise it would be so tough, I thought the Captain Spock event was brutal but this seems tougher due to lack of bonus crew.
I'm stopping at 70k vp. The reward at 120 is too far a distance for me to bother with in an afternoon. lack of fully levelled bonus crew really screwed me over this event even though I'd just bought 4th shuttle.
I'm stopping at 70k vp. The reward at 120 is too far a distance for me to bother with in an afternoon. lack of fully levelled bonus crew really screwed me over this event even though I'd just bought 4th shuttle.
I'm going for 150k but it'll be iffy. This event has been brutal.
I'm stopping at 70k vp. The reward at 120 is too far a distance for me to bother with in an afternoon. lack of fully levelled bonus crew really screwed me over this event even though I'd just bought 4th shuttle.
I'm going for 150k but it'll be iffy. This event has been brutal.
At 6:30am CST 1000 is sitting at 412k VP. Went 5 for 6 on my 9hr and jumped to 500@454k so it’s a tight pack again with around 2.5 sets of shuttles separating 500 from 1000
All this talk of "threshold and out" has finally hit DB's ears, and this was their response. Threshold and out will no longer be the realm of the 'middle class', as it were. I've never been a top 1000, and fine with that, but I could always clear thresholds rather easily. DB has ensured that this casual style of gameplay for me is no longer feasible. Shame. If this will be the new norm, then we'll have to see how long it takes me to be demoralized enough to quit.
And I'm a double VP14, so it's not like they didn't get their pound of flesh out of me. I'm not asking for everything for nothing, just asking to not have the rug pulled out from under me with the goal line always stretched out of reach.
Edit: in case the tone didn't convey it, I ain't making threshold. I doubt I'll even get the behold on this killer, skewed challenge.
Now it will be “some thresholds and out” or “don’t bother, I’m out”...DB is gambling on more people trying to reach the higher thresholds by spending money or a greater amount of saved resources with the new threshold structure and I do not think it will go well.
I have a stout set of bonus crew (including Apollo, Platonian Kirk, Mirror Kirk, and partially fused Mirror Troi and Durango Troi), some powerful non-bonus SCI crew, did a kickstart, and have been diligent about sending shuttles regularly (except for a bit on Saturday due to a birthday party); this will lead to barely scraping a top-3000 finish and only the 250k threshold - I’m at rank 3566 and 235k points now with a reward-doubled set of shuttles arriving in ten minutes and can get one more round out and back before the end. An argument could be made that not using reward doubling boosts overnight instead of waking up every three hours would have pushed me to the 300k threshold, but even then it is not possible to reach all of the thresholds without dipping into reserves of 3+* time boosts.
If I can remember to do so on Thursdays going forward, I will start tracking the number of 3* (or 4/5*) time boosts that drop from ad-doubled cadet missions. If that number is not sufficient to ensure that the top threshold can be reached it will prove that some kind of spending is required to reach thresholds in every Faction event, unlike as it was with the old reward structure.
If I can remember to do so on Thursdays going forward, I will start tracking the number of 3* (or 4/5*) time boosts that drop from ad-doubled cadet missions. If that number is not sufficient to ensure that the top threshold can be reached it will prove that some kind of spending is required to reach thresholds in every Faction event, unlike as it was with the old reward structure.
I don't know what the average drop of time boosts is, but so far, I've mostly had about one drop out of each pack. Sometimes it's less and sometimes it's more. So that would be 12 a week, maybe 13 if one takes into account the boost packs in threshold rewards. There are usually two faction events a month (one pure faction and one hybrid) and right now it's taking me about 60 to 70 time boosts to get into 1k. I don't think it's possible to rank 1k at every event without spending money (but to be honest, this was never possible for me). Given that the top threshold isn't far below 1k, I guess it might be a problem for that one too, unless one has a very strong crew or is willing to use the requisition shuttles and double rewards boosts on a random event.
EDIT: I've never set alarms during the night, I use 9hrs boosts for those. If someone is willing to log in every 3 hours, maybe it is possible.
This event has been good for one thing - how to feel burnt out sooner.
I perhaps could have chalked up the 400k threshold as a "challenge accepted" kind of way, despite the unpleasantness of not being able to level the card up to be of any use.
But then to change the missions on a re-run with no prior notice about it whilst also making it harder to kick start well that just adds fresh mire to the fan.
If this becomes the model well then I think I will slip into the don't bother category more often, no "token" reward is worth this.
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This event should be pretty easy to hit the 400k. It is far less competitive than the previous faction event.
- running the same 4 Bajoran missions (2 3-seaters, Perfect Followers, and Seeking Muse)
- with 3* skill boosts, my success rates are 92%, 89%, 88%, 88%
- did my normal kickstart (11 x 3* speed boosts, 2 x 4* speed boosts)
- have not used any other boosts aside from the kickstart and 3* skill boosts
- have not used any shuttle requisition tokens
- slept through an alarm and missed an entire 3-hour wave of 4k shuttles (12,800 - 16,000 points)
- I should be around 335,000 points at the 3/4 point of the event
I've been hovering in the 500-800 rank for most of the event, after missing that one wave of shuttles.
How does the relative competitiveness of the event equal hitting 400k? Not everyone has your crew, so people are not sending out 4 shuttles around 90% like you can. I know plenty of players with pretty solid rosters who are having a hard time accumulating VP. Some even have high success rates shown similar to yours but are getting terrible RNG. To "easily" hit 400k it likely takes a deep roster or a lot of speed boosts.
I didn't even think my bonus crew pool was all that strong coming in. I had both 4* immortalized, and I had GoE Troi FE @ 1/5, but I had no other 5* bonus crew. I got lucky by having a squad leader share an immortalized GoE Troi, and decided to immortalized a 2nd copy of Apollo during the event (got the 4th copy in an event pack).
I found this event was more about finding 4 missions that fit your crew (my non-event crew were 5/5 Surak, 5/5 Degra, 4/5 Laborer Spock, and 4/5 Kortar), and ensuring you didn't miss any waves of shuttles. It has been far less competitive than the previous faction event.
I used 13 time boosts during my kickstart and just used 3* skill boosts since then (no reward doublers, no extra shuttles), and wound up hitting the 400k threshold about 12.5 hours before the end of the event.
i am not going to make it for troy i am at 334k and me 4 shuttle is going back before the end of the event but i think only 50% of it going to make because 2 is around 88% and me two last is around 60% it 9.6k not enought for the free pack and i send all the event each 3 hr 10 min avg.
i think for the Legendary u put in tech three is for helping small to average player to be more competitive putting it at 400k is only for big player probably got her FF/FE and is going to Air Lock is legendary and u need be realy close to the top 1000 to have the legendary other wise people finish in 1000 going to have 2 legendary and the gap between Big Whale and small & Avg player going to me more event biger ,and Disruptor Beam u can give us the legendary like before at 130k or 150k any way player small and avg dont have many room for the crew more u give this legendary player going to air lock them or buy crew room is win win for player and for DB and i am Vip 10 and buy only now montly card
This event should be pretty easy to hit the 400k. It is far less competitive than the previous faction event.
- running the same 4 Bajoran missions (2 3-seaters, Perfect Followers, and Seeking Muse)
- with 3* skill boosts, my success rates are 92%, 89%, 88%, 88%
- did my normal kickstart (11 x 3* speed boosts, 2 x 4* speed boosts)
- have not used any other boosts aside from the kickstart and 3* skill boosts
- have not used any shuttle requisition tokens
- slept through an alarm and missed an entire 3-hour wave of 4k shuttles (12,800 - 16,000 points)
- I should be around 335,000 points at the 3/4 point of the event
I've been hovering in the 500-800 rank for most of the event, after missing that one wave of shuttles.
How does the relative competitiveness of the event equal hitting 400k? Not everyone has your crew, so people are not sending out 4 shuttles around 90% like you can. I know plenty of players with pretty solid rosters who are having a hard time accumulating VP. Some even have high success rates shown similar to yours but are getting terrible RNG. To "easily" hit 400k it likely takes a deep roster or a lot of speed boosts.
I didn't even think my bonus crew pool was all that strong coming in. I had both 4* immortalized, and I had GoE Troi FE @ 1/5, but I had no other 5* bonus crew. I got lucky by having a squad leader share an immortalized GoE Troi, and decided to immortalized a 2nd copy of Apollo during the event (got the 4th copy in an event pack).
I found this event was more about finding 4 missions that fit your crew (my non-event crew were 5/5 Surak, 5/5 Degra, 4/5 Laborer Spock, and 4/5 Kortar), and ensuring you didn't miss any waves of shuttles. It has been far less competitive than the previous faction event.
I used 13 time boosts during my kickstart and just used 3* skill boosts since then (no reward doublers, no extra shuttles), and wound up hitting the 400k threshold about 12.5 hours before the end of the event.
Are you a squadron leader, and if so how many points did you get from that?
This event should be pretty easy to hit the 400k. It is far less competitive than the previous faction event.
- running the same 4 Bajoran missions (2 3-seaters, Perfect Followers, and Seeking Muse)
- with 3* skill boosts, my success rates are 92%, 89%, 88%, 88%
- did my normal kickstart (11 x 3* speed boosts, 2 x 4* speed boosts)
- have not used any other boosts aside from the kickstart and 3* skill boosts
- have not used any shuttle requisition tokens
- slept through an alarm and missed an entire 3-hour wave of 4k shuttles (12,800 - 16,000 points)
- I should be around 335,000 points at the 3/4 point of the event
I've been hovering in the 500-800 rank for most of the event, after missing that one wave of shuttles.
How does the relative competitiveness of the event equal hitting 400k? Not everyone has your crew, so people are not sending out 4 shuttles around 90% like you can. I know plenty of players with pretty solid rosters who are having a hard time accumulating VP. Some even have high success rates shown similar to yours but are getting terrible RNG. To "easily" hit 400k it likely takes a deep roster or a lot of speed boosts.
I didn't even think my bonus crew pool was all that strong coming in. I had both 4* immortalized, and I had GoE Troi FE @ 1/5, but I had no other 5* bonus crew. I got lucky by having a squad leader share an immortalized GoE Troi, and decided to immortalized a 2nd copy of Apollo during the event (got the 4th copy in an event pack).
I found this event was more about finding 4 missions that fit your crew (my non-event crew were 5/5 Surak, 5/5 Degra, 4/5 Laborer Spock, and 4/5 Kortar), and ensuring you didn't miss any waves of shuttles. It has been far less competitive than the previous faction event.
I used 13 time boosts during my kickstart and just used 3* skill boosts since then (no reward doublers, no extra shuttles), and wound up hitting the 400k threshold about 12.5 hours before the end of the event.
Are you a squadron leader, and if so how many points did you get from that?
Nope. As I mentioned, my squad leader has shared an immortalized GoE Troi with me, which just happens to be one of only 3 legendary (5*) crew he has immortalized.
With 30 minutes left to go, I am currently sitting at 900th in the rankings, with 4 shuttles due back in 20 minutes.
- 3* speed boosts = 11 used
- 4* speed boosts = 2 used
- 3* skill boosts = lots --> 2 x MED, 1 x SEC, 1 x SCI for every wave of shuttles, starting @ 3500 points
- extra shuttles = 0
- 2x multipliers (old or new version) = 0
- dilithium = 0
- real cash dollars $$$ = 0
I kept running the same 4 Bajoran missions, using the same 14 crew:
- 5/5 GoE Troi (shared with me)
- 1/5 GoE Troi (2/5 for the last 4 waves of shuttles)
- 4/4 Apollo
- 4/4 Apollo (I immortalized a 2nd copy during the event)
- 4/4 Plato Kirk
- 4/4 Nexus Kirk
- 4/4 Romulan Kirk
- 4/4 Mintaken Troi
- 4/4 Bridge Troi
- 4/4 Rakal Troi
- 5/5 Surak
- 5/5 Degra
- 4/5 Laborer Spock
- 4/5 Kortar
For me, it was all a matter of being sure to login every 3 hours. My missions ranged from 81-86% without boosts, and with boosts they were at 92%, 91%, 89%, 88%.
This event should be pretty easy to hit the 400k. It is far less competitive than the previous faction event.
- running the same 4 Bajoran missions (2 3-seaters, Perfect Followers, and Seeking Muse)
- with 3* skill boosts, my success rates are 92%, 89%, 88%, 88%
- did my normal kickstart (11 x 3* speed boosts, 2 x 4* speed boosts)
- have not used any other boosts aside from the kickstart and 3* skill boosts
- have not used any shuttle requisition tokens
- slept through an alarm and missed an entire 3-hour wave of 4k shuttles (12,800 - 16,000 points)
- I should be around 335,000 points at the 3/4 point of the event
I've been hovering in the 500-800 rank for most of the event, after missing that one wave of shuttles.
How does the relative competitiveness of the event equal hitting 400k? Not everyone has your crew, so people are not sending out 4 shuttles around 90% like you can. I know plenty of players with pretty solid rosters who are having a hard time accumulating VP. Some even have high success rates shown similar to yours but are getting terrible RNG. To "easily" hit 400k it likely takes a deep roster or a lot of speed boosts.
I didn't even think my bonus crew pool was all that strong coming in. I had both 4* immortalized, and I had GoE Troi FE @ 1/5, but I had no other 5* bonus crew. I got lucky by having a squad leader share an immortalized GoE Troi, and decided to immortalized a 2nd copy of Apollo during the event (got the 4th copy in an event pack).
I found this event was more about finding 4 missions that fit your crew (my non-event crew were 5/5 Surak, 5/5 Degra, 4/5 Laborer Spock, and 4/5 Kortar), and ensuring you didn't miss any waves of shuttles. It has been far less competitive than the previous faction event.
I used 13 time boosts during my kickstart and just used 3* skill boosts since then (no reward doublers, no extra shuttles), and wound up hitting the 400k threshold about 12.5 hours before the end of the event.
Are you a squadron leader, and if so how many points did you get from that?
I kept running the same 4 Bajoran missions, using the same 14 crew:
- 5/5 GoE Troi (shared with me)
- 1/5 GoE Troi (2/5 for the last 4 waves of shuttles)
- 4/4 Apollo
- 4/4 Apollo (I immortalized a 2nd copy during the event)
- 4/4 Plato Kirk
- 4/4 Nexus Kirk
- 4/4 Romulan Kirk
- 4/4 Mintaken Troi
- 4/4 Bridge Troi
- 4/4 Rakal Troi
- 5/5 Surak
- 5/5 Degra
- 4/5 Laborer Spock
- 4/5 Kortar
For me, it was all a matter of being sure to login every 3 hours. My missions ranged from 81-86% without boosts, and with boosts they were at 92%, 91%, 89%, 88%.
Your crew was actually stronger than mine, though I used many more time boosts to make sure I stayed toward the top (ended up at around 500). I didn't have a GoE Troi until Sunday evening, my leader shared a 1/5 GoE Troi, and I only had 1 Apollo and no Nexus Kirk. I do have a 1/5 Durango Troi and a 1/5 Admiral Kirk (who were big) a 1/5 Mirror Kirk and 1/5 Gangster Kirk (who were useful) and a 1/5 Mirror Troi I didn't use much.
I did the 4 missions with 3 slots. My teams were (with the slots they filled and accounting for the fact that the AND bug may still exist):
1/5 GoE Troi (Med/Dip, the order here matters if the AND bug is still around)
1/5 Admiral Kirk (Dip/Cmd)
1/5 Durango Troi (Sec/Cmd)
91%
4/4 Mintakan Troi (Dip/Med, if the AND bug exists, then putting her in the Med/Dip slot in the previous shuttles makes her much weaker)
1/5 Gangster Kirk (Dip/Cmd, if the AND bug is gone, this shuttle is stronger because his stats are only a bit weaker than Durango/Mintakan Troi)
1/5 Mirror Kirk (Sec/Cmd)
84% (approx.)
If I know that the AND bug is gone, I arrange my shuttles a bit differently, but it would only increase my overall chance of getting 3-4 successes per wave by maybe 1-2%. I also balance out my 91% shuttle if I don't focus on getting more VP for the leader.
Once I got GoE Troi myself at 1/5, then I swapped BO Troi for her and put Apollo in that shuttle's Med/Cmd slot. I spent a while optimizing my crew and investigated whether 4-crew shuttle would be better than the first shuttle I listed. I calculated the success rate of a theoretical crew by using the formula on the wiki, and I found that the difficulty of a 4k VP event shuttle is about 2000 (not the max difficulty of 2500).
Again, I used a lot of time boosts, though I used skills boosts during the day on Sat and Sun, and only a couple of tokens with skill boosts and unused, weaker bonus crew. I didn't spend any money or dilithium for this event. I did have a store of time boosts I had been saving for months, though those have been depleted over the past 4 faction events. I was trying to use as few as necessary to save them in case the mega event has a good reward in its faction events.
before the end of the event i am at 346k pts i payd 184 dilithium to send 1 last shuttle and come back before the end to have at least the pack and in the pack i got lucky got behold Riper, Lissan, Enabran Tain i take Enabrain Tain
All this talk of "threshold and out" has finally hit DB's ears, and this was their response. Threshold and out will no longer be the realm of the 'middle class', as it were. I've never been a top 1000, and fine with that, but I could always clear thresholds rather easily. DB has ensured that this casual style of gameplay for me is no longer feasible. Shame. If this will be the new norm, then we'll have to see how long it takes me to be demoralized enough to quit.
And I'm a double VP14, so it's not like they didn't get their pound of flesh out of me. I'm not asking for everything for nothing, just asking to not have the rug pulled out from under me with the goal line always stretched out of reach.
Edit: in case the tone didn't convey it, I ain't making threshold. I doubt I'll even get the behold on this killer, skewed challenge.
I dont really understand this train of thought at all... So DB added extra tresholds and it somehow makes it less (?) appealing to play the event, like wth?? Or is it solely because the old gold isnt where it used to be?
Anyhow 505k points for me at the end. Rank 300 something high... didnt pay attention to it.
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before the end of the event i am at 346k pts i payd 184 dilithium to send 1 last shuttle and come back before the end to have at least the pack and in the pack i got lucky got behold Riper, Lissan, Enabran Tain i take Enabrain Tain
All this talk of "threshold and out" has finally hit DB's ears, and this was their response. Threshold and out will no longer be the realm of the 'middle class', as it were. I've never been a top 1000, and fine with that, but I could always clear thresholds rather easily. DB has ensured that this casual style of gameplay for me is no longer feasible. Shame. If this will be the new norm, then we'll have to see how long it takes me to be demoralized enough to quit.
And I'm a double VP14, so it's not like they didn't get their pound of flesh out of me. I'm not asking for everything for nothing, just asking to not have the rug pulled out from under me with the goal line always stretched out of reach.
Edit: in case the tone didn't convey it, I ain't making threshold. I doubt I'll even get the behold on this killer, skewed challenge.
I dont really understand this train of thought at all... So DB added extra tresholds and it somehow makes it less (?) appealing to play the event, like wth?? Or is it solely because the old gold isnt where it used to be?
Anyhow 505k points for me at the end.
Agreed. There are two different issues here which people are mixing together.
1) The repeat 5* being moved from 150k to 400k
2) New thresholds being added from 250k to 400k.
If your complaint is the 5* crew being moved, that's valid. DB made something harder than it was before and took it away from players that could get the old score.
If your complaint are there are now thresholds above 250k that you can't reach, well you can still get everything you got before(excluding the 5* crew point). DB didn't take anything away from you. They added a new goal to reach for. You may not be able to hit 400k now, but when you started you likely weren't hitting 100k either. You now have a new goal to work towards that will give you something new you never got before.
People were complaining for months that thresholds end early and once you clear thresholds there is nothing to play for besides the final rank. DB answered that and created new thresholds. They put them high enough so that you really need to work for them and most players won't reach them. But that's ok. If most players reached all the thresholds, then we'd be back at the initial state where they end too early for the best players. Now all players have a threshold target to keep pushing for until the end.
But then to change the missions on a re-run with no prior notice about it
They change the crew, they change the thresholds, they change the max number of shuttles... why would you assume they wouldn't change the mission details too?
I don't bother reviewing the wiki (or my own notes) for details about the re-runs. For me, the "re-run" just means another chance at the crew list. If you just play the event as it lays, you won't be disappointed by deviations from past incarnations.
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At 6 pm with 18 hours left at 304K
Would estimate final score to be 382K allowing 75% success.
Had called exactly that 18 hours back. The game and rngjesus is consistent.
Thanks
Gonna attempt to coast the rest of the way.
Sigh...
My hitting threshold really is down to RNG now.
Regardless, I'm in the points bracket I knew I would reach....
And I'm a double VP14, so it's not like they didn't get their pound of flesh out of me. I'm not asking for everything for nothing, just asking to not have the rug pulled out from under me with the goal line always stretched out of reach.
Edit: in case the tone didn't convey it, I ain't making threshold. I doubt I'll even get the behold on this killer, skewed challenge.
I'm single VIP0. I would class myself as a casual player. I'm 25K off threshold.
I'm saying it - I LIKE what they've done. It's made it more of a challenge, it's made me think and plan better, it's made it EXCITING!
Well, I guess she is 14th best ENG / MED crew we have for Gauntlet
I'm going for 150k but it'll be iffy. This event has been brutal.
Better luck with the next one!
Now it will be “some thresholds and out” or “don’t bother, I’m out”...DB is gambling on more people trying to reach the higher thresholds by spending money or a greater amount of saved resources with the new threshold structure and I do not think it will go well.
I have a stout set of bonus crew (including Apollo, Platonian Kirk, Mirror Kirk, and partially fused Mirror Troi and Durango Troi), some powerful non-bonus SCI crew, did a kickstart, and have been diligent about sending shuttles regularly (except for a bit on Saturday due to a birthday party); this will lead to barely scraping a top-3000 finish and only the 250k threshold - I’m at rank 3566 and 235k points now with a reward-doubled set of shuttles arriving in ten minutes and can get one more round out and back before the end. An argument could be made that not using reward doubling boosts overnight instead of waking up every three hours would have pushed me to the 300k threshold, but even then it is not possible to reach all of the thresholds without dipping into reserves of 3+* time boosts.
If I can remember to do so on Thursdays going forward, I will start tracking the number of 3* (or 4/5*) time boosts that drop from ad-doubled cadet missions. If that number is not sufficient to ensure that the top threshold can be reached it will prove that some kind of spending is required to reach thresholds in every Faction event, unlike as it was with the old reward structure.
I don't know what the average drop of time boosts is, but so far, I've mostly had about one drop out of each pack. Sometimes it's less and sometimes it's more. So that would be 12 a week, maybe 13 if one takes into account the boost packs in threshold rewards. There are usually two faction events a month (one pure faction and one hybrid) and right now it's taking me about 60 to 70 time boosts to get into 1k. I don't think it's possible to rank 1k at every event without spending money (but to be honest, this was never possible for me). Given that the top threshold isn't far below 1k, I guess it might be a problem for that one too, unless one has a very strong crew or is willing to use the requisition shuttles and double rewards boosts on a random event.
EDIT: I've never set alarms during the night, I use 9hrs boosts for those. If someone is willing to log in every 3 hours, maybe it is possible.
I perhaps could have chalked up the 400k threshold as a "challenge accepted" kind of way, despite the unpleasantness of not being able to level the card up to be of any use.
But then to change the missions on a re-run with no prior notice about it whilst also making it harder to kick start well that just adds fresh mire to the fan.
If this becomes the model well then I think I will slip into the don't bother category more often, no "token" reward is worth this.
I didn't even think my bonus crew pool was all that strong coming in. I had both 4* immortalized, and I had GoE Troi FE @ 1/5, but I had no other 5* bonus crew. I got lucky by having a squad leader share an immortalized GoE Troi, and decided to immortalized a 2nd copy of Apollo during the event (got the 4th copy in an event pack).
I found this event was more about finding 4 missions that fit your crew (my non-event crew were 5/5 Surak, 5/5 Degra, 4/5 Laborer Spock, and 4/5 Kortar), and ensuring you didn't miss any waves of shuttles. It has been far less competitive than the previous faction event.
I used 13 time boosts during my kickstart and just used 3* skill boosts since then (no reward doublers, no extra shuttles), and wound up hitting the 400k threshold about 12.5 hours before the end of the event.
i think for the Legendary u put in tech three is for helping small to average player to be more competitive putting it at 400k is only for big player probably got her FF/FE and is going to Air Lock is legendary and u need be realy close to the top 1000 to have the legendary other wise people finish in 1000 going to have 2 legendary and the gap between Big Whale and small & Avg player going to me more event biger ,and Disruptor Beam u can give us the legendary like before at 130k or 150k any way player small and avg dont have many room for the crew more u give this legendary player going to air lock them or buy crew room is win win for player and for DB and i am Vip 10 and buy only now montly card
78 FE ,78 Lvl 100,
Immortalized: 190
Vip:12 Lvl :64
Are you a squadron leader, and if so how many points did you get from that?
Nope. As I mentioned, my squad leader has shared an immortalized GoE Troi with me, which just happens to be one of only 3 legendary (5*) crew he has immortalized.
With 30 minutes left to go, I am currently sitting at 900th in the rankings, with 4 shuttles due back in 20 minutes.
- 3* speed boosts = 11 used
- 4* speed boosts = 2 used
- 3* skill boosts = lots --> 2 x MED, 1 x SEC, 1 x SCI for every wave of shuttles, starting @ 3500 points
- extra shuttles = 0
- 2x multipliers (old or new version) = 0
- dilithium = 0
- real cash dollars $$$ = 0
I kept running the same 4 Bajoran missions, using the same 14 crew:
- 5/5 GoE Troi (shared with me)
- 1/5 GoE Troi (2/5 for the last 4 waves of shuttles)
- 4/4 Apollo
- 4/4 Apollo (I immortalized a 2nd copy during the event)
- 4/4 Plato Kirk
- 4/4 Nexus Kirk
- 4/4 Romulan Kirk
- 4/4 Mintaken Troi
- 4/4 Bridge Troi
- 4/4 Rakal Troi
- 5/5 Surak
- 5/5 Degra
- 4/5 Laborer Spock
- 4/5 Kortar
For me, it was all a matter of being sure to login every 3 hours. My missions ranged from 81-86% without boosts, and with boosts they were at 92%, 91%, 89%, 88%.
Your crew was actually stronger than mine, though I used many more time boosts to make sure I stayed toward the top (ended up at around 500). I didn't have a GoE Troi until Sunday evening, my leader shared a 1/5 GoE Troi, and I only had 1 Apollo and no Nexus Kirk. I do have a 1/5 Durango Troi and a 1/5 Admiral Kirk (who were big) a 1/5 Mirror Kirk and 1/5 Gangster Kirk (who were useful) and a 1/5 Mirror Troi I didn't use much.
I did the 4 missions with 3 slots. My teams were (with the slots they filled and accounting for the fact that the AND bug may still exist):
4/5 Surak (Sci/Dip)
FF Platonian Kirk (Sec/Cmd)
5/5 Phoenix Cochrane (Sci/Eng)
81% (without skill boosts)
1/5 GoE Troi (Med/Dip, the order here matters if the AND bug is still around)
1/5 Admiral Kirk (Dip/Cmd)
1/5 Durango Troi (Sec/Cmd)
91%
4/4 Mintakan Troi (Dip/Med, if the AND bug exists, then putting her in the Med/Dip slot in the previous shuttles makes her much weaker)
1/5 Gangster Kirk (Dip/Cmd, if the AND bug is gone, this shuttle is stronger because his stats are only a bit weaker than Durango/Mintakan Troi)
1/5 Mirror Kirk (Sec/Cmd)
84% (approx.)
FF Bridge Officer Troi (Med/Cmd)
FF Apollo (Med/Dip)
FF Romulan Kirk (Dip/Sec)
86% (approx.)
If I know that the AND bug is gone, I arrange my shuttles a bit differently, but it would only increase my overall chance of getting 3-4 successes per wave by maybe 1-2%. I also balance out my 91% shuttle if I don't focus on getting more VP for the leader.
Once I got GoE Troi myself at 1/5, then I swapped BO Troi for her and put Apollo in that shuttle's Med/Cmd slot. I spent a while optimizing my crew and investigated whether 4-crew shuttle would be better than the first shuttle I listed. I calculated the success rate of a theoretical crew by using the formula on the wiki, and I found that the difficulty of a 4k VP event shuttle is about 2000 (not the max difficulty of 2500).
Again, I used a lot of time boosts, though I used skills boosts during the day on Sat and Sun, and only a couple of tokens with skill boosts and unused, weaker bonus crew. I didn't spend any money or dilithium for this event. I did have a store of time boosts I had been saving for months, though those have been depleted over the past 4 faction events. I was trying to use as few as necessary to save them in case the mega event has a good reward in its faction events.
78 FE ,78 Lvl 100,
Immortalized: 190
Vip:12 Lvl :64
I dont really understand this train of thought at all... So DB added extra tresholds and it somehow makes it less (?) appealing to play the event, like wth?? Or is it solely because the old gold isnt where it used to be?
Anyhow 505k points for me at the end. Rank 300 something high... didnt pay attention to it.
184 Dilithium well spent then.
Proof that it isn't F2P that limits people. It's simply CBA.
Agreed. There are two different issues here which people are mixing together.
1) The repeat 5* being moved from 150k to 400k
2) New thresholds being added from 250k to 400k.
If your complaint is the 5* crew being moved, that's valid. DB made something harder than it was before and took it away from players that could get the old score.
If your complaint are there are now thresholds above 250k that you can't reach, well you can still get everything you got before(excluding the 5* crew point). DB didn't take anything away from you. They added a new goal to reach for. You may not be able to hit 400k now, but when you started you likely weren't hitting 100k either. You now have a new goal to work towards that will give you something new you never got before.
People were complaining for months that thresholds end early and once you clear thresholds there is nothing to play for besides the final rank. DB answered that and created new thresholds. They put them high enough so that you really need to work for them and most players won't reach them. But that's ok. If most players reached all the thresholds, then we'd be back at the initial state where they end too early for the best players. Now all players have a threshold target to keep pushing for until the end.
They change the crew, they change the thresholds, they change the max number of shuttles... why would you assume they wouldn't change the mission details too?
I don't bother reviewing the wiki (or my own notes) for details about the re-runs. For me, the "re-run" just means another chance at the crew list. If you just play the event as it lays, you won't be disappointed by deviations from past incarnations.