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Star Trek reboot - why are there no cards?

MiT SanoaMiT Sanoa ✭✭✭✭✭
STT messes with the timeline anyway, so why are there zero cards from the Star Trek reboot "Star Trek", "Beyond" and "Into the Darkness"? Does DB hold no license for those?

I love these refurbished characters so much, having some of them would be amazing.
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  • Yeah, I think they don't have the license for it as the TV shows belong to CBS while the new movies belong to Paramount.
  • MiT SanoaMiT Sanoa ✭✭✭✭✭
    Too bad. They really should try to get it. :)
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  • We don't need. And.. the players have voted.
    No Kelvin timeline in SST. Period!

    When was there a vote? I've been playing 2 and a half years and have seen no vote on this. I enjoyed JJ Trek.

    Nor I, if DB were to ever get the license, those characters will be in the game quickstyle, you can take that to the bank.

    (Err, DB will take it actually)
  • (HGH)Apollo(HGH)Apollo ✭✭✭✭✭
    The JJ movies were good but sadly DB only has license for the star trek tv shows and movies before the JJ ones.
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  • [10F] gobolts07 [10F] gobolts07 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I really liked the first one. The second one was ok. I didn’t like Beyond at all. Their cards in the game would be fine. If they’re powerful enough, bring it on.

    All this is just an exercise though because I’m sure DB is paying CBS through the nose and isn’t interested in paying for another license.
  • Yeah, I think they don't have the license for it as the TV shows belong to CBS while the new movies belong to Paramount.

    Which is weird because CBS owns Paramount
  • (HGH)Apollo(HGH)Apollo ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2019
    I believe that I am one of those in the minority, but (aside from a few logical points on time and distance) I really liked the movies. Yes they made a bunch of modernization changes, but they didn't pretend not to. I would welcome a version of each main crew.

    You are not in the minority, the JJ movies did well in the theater. It is just that they were a little different than the original movies and some people don't like different. I felt it held true to the original characters but reimagined the stories and put in modern graphics, effects, and yes, lens flares. I loved the idea that Kirk was destined to be captain of the Enterprise no matter how the timeline gets altered. That very much fits in with star trek timelines.

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  • (HGH)Apollo(HGH)Apollo ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2019
    Dingbat1 wrote: »
    I believe that I am one of those in the minority, but (aside from a few logical points on time and distance) I really liked the movies. Yes they made a bunch of modernization changes, but they didn't pretend not to. I would welcome a version of each main crew.

    I too liked the movies, but they felt a lot more like Star Wars than like Star Trek.
    My main issue with Discovery is also that it doesn't feel like Star Trek.

    Star Trek always seemed more grounded in science and realism (even if it was complete fantasy). It's the difference between science fiction and space opera.

    I get what you are saying but I think that is mainly from TNG. TNG did a lot of science anomalies, solutions and explanations but how much did the other series do? Not as much. Any trek movie or series will come up short on the science account if compared to TNG. We also live in a time where most people watching tv now are watching while also using their devices to chat and look stuff up online while watching. People are giving less attention to their shows and as such Hollywood is simplifying shows a bit. Discovery still has some science but not as much as TNG. I would like to see Discovery have some episodes that are more science heavy but I like action packed episodes as well. Some TNG episodes could be a little boring with little going on. I wonder how much of TNG was science to be cerebral and how much of TNG was science due to lack of budget and sophisticated graphics that now exist.
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  • Travis S McClainTravis S McClain ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2019
    I believe that I am one of those in the minority, but (aside from a few logical points on time and distance) I really liked the movies. Yes they made a bunch of modernization changes, but they didn't pretend not to. I would welcome a version of each main crew.

    You are not in the minority, the JJ movies did well in the theater. It is just that they were a little different than the original movies and some people don't like different. I felt it held true to the original characters but reimagined the stories and put in modern graphics, effects, and yes, lens flares. I loved the idea that Kirk was destined to be captain of the Enterprise no matter how the timeline gets altered. That very much fits in with star trek timelines.

    Per Box Office Mojo, they're the top three highest grossing Trek movies to date. Even if we adjust for ticket inflation, the '09 reboot is still the most successful, and Into Darkness only drops from #2 to #4.

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  • [7TW] UnkieB[7TW] UnkieB ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah, I think they don't have the license for it as the TV shows belong to CBS while the new movies belong to Paramount.

    Which is weird because CBS owns Paramount

    Back in 2005 there was a split and there is CBS Corp. (various CBS brands, Simon & Schuster, 50% of CW, etc.) and Viacom Inc. (Paramount Pictures, Pluto TV, etc.) these are separate companies, although National Amusements controls 80% voting power for both.

    Lately there have been renewed rumors that CBS & Viacom may merge back into one company...
    https://trekmovie.com/2019/04/26/reports-cbs-and-viacom-moving-towards-merger-talks-again/
  • Yateball wrote: »
    Into Darkness was the biggest pile of crap in Trek movie history for various reasons.... there is soooo soooo soooo much wrong with it

    I would dislike this game quite a bit if it merged the franchises together, glad it will never happen

    Yeah that was a monstrosity!
  • Yateball wrote: »
    Into Darkness was the biggest pile of crap in Trek movie history for various reasons.... there is soooo soooo soooo much wrong with it

    I would dislike this game quite a bit if it merged the franchises together, glad it will never happen

    +1

    I personally hated into darkness, the whole Kahn thing was already done, it’s not like they can do it any better than space seed- STII: The Wrath of Khan, Benedict Cumberbatch is an amazing actor (ex: Doctor Strange) but was terribly cast into a role he was not fit for. The end scene with Kirk in Spock’s place was terrible because it was trying to redo what happened in TWOK. This movie is a prime example of a redo gone wrong.
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  • (HGH)Apollo(HGH)Apollo ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yateball wrote: »
    Into Darkness was the biggest pile of crap in Trek movie history for various reasons.... there is soooo soooo soooo much wrong with it

    I would dislike this game quite a bit if it merged the franchises together, glad it will never happen

    +1

    I personally hated into darkness, the whole Kahn thing was already done, it’s not like they can do it any better than space seed- STII: The Wrath of Khan, Benedict Cumberbatch is an amazing actor (ex: Doctor Strange) but was terribly cast into a role he was not fit for. The end scene with Kirk in Spock’s place was terrible because it was trying to redo what happened in TWOK. This movie is a prime example of a redo gone wrong.

    No it wasnt redoing it, it was flipping it. That was great. Kirk and Spock were both willing to sacrifice themselves to saver everyone. Kirk and Spock were so close they were like brothers and the death of either would make the other go mad with grief and anger. I enjoyed seeing the original tale but told differently.
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  • Bluebeard1Bluebeard1 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would prefer they did'n't iclude the JJ movies, but I would also prefer that Discovery was skipped out too to be honest.
    I'm hopeful for the new Picard series, with a seasoned Trek actor (the great Patrick Stewart no less) taking the title role there's some potential for making that the greatest Trek series ever (although it's also possible it will be an utter mess, but i'm staying optomistic on this one).
  • Travis S McClainTravis S McClain ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe that I am one of those in the minority, but (aside from a few logical points on time and distance) I really liked the movies. Yes they made a bunch of modernization changes, but they didn't pretend not to. I would welcome a version of each main crew.

    You are not in the minority, the JJ movies did well in the theater. It is just that they were a little different than the original movies and some people don't like different. I felt it held true to the original characters but reimagined the stories and put in modern graphics, effects, and yes, lens flares. I loved the idea that Kirk was destined to be captain of the Enterprise no matter how the timeline gets altered. That very much fits in with star trek timelines.

    Per Box Office Mojo, they're the top three highest grossing Trek movies to date. Even if we adjust for ticket inflation, the '09 reboot is still the most successful, and Into Darkness only drops from #2 to #4.

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    I always ignore the "box office receipts" for the last 10 years and their hype about "biggest box office opening weekend to date", "highest grossing whatever blah blah" etc.

    [in the US] The 1979 box office ticket prices were about $2.50 for prime time, and 1.50 for matinee. the 80s: all the way up to $4. In the 90s: up to $5.
    2010: $8.25
    Average price today, about $10.50

    So divide those ridiculous millions by the price of admission to get the actual number of PEOPLE who bought tickets.

    For this example, I am averaging straight up 1/2 ticket sales at matinee prices, and 1/2 at prime time prices.
    Compare now: The Motion Picture 1979: 280,000,000 tickets sold
    compared to: Star Trek JJ – 85,525,000 tickets sold.


    I went to every [TOS] Star Trek movie at least 3 times back then. I almost fell asleep watching the reboot on the big screen. Oh, and I kept every ticket stub from every Star Trek anything I have ever been to.

    I think us old timer Trekkies win. :smile:

    That's a bit reductive, though. Going back to see the same movie in a theater multiple times isn't a decision that is made the same way today and it doesn't signify quite the same things today anymore, either. It's easier to decide to go back to see Trek for the third time when there isn't anything else grabbing your attention. Today's moviegoer, though, is bound to be interested in the latest Marvel, DC, Star Wars, Pixar, Disney, Harry Potter/Wizarding World, Jurassic Park/World, Transformers, Pirates of the Caribbean, Lord of the Rings/Hobbit, etc. enough to choose that over a repeat viewing of Trek. It may be tempting to say, "But a *real* Trekkie wouldn't be into any of those things more than Star Trek!" but that's absurd for any number of reasons, not least of which being it doesn't mean they didn't go see Trek at all. Just not more than once.

    Then there's the impact that the evolving home video market has had on movie-going decision making, to say nothing of the evolution of TV, streaming, video games, and the Internet all competing for one's time and money. Hollywood still hasn't figured out what to do about all that, and this year's sluggish box office sales have prompted renewed concerns that the movie-going experience altogether is an endangered form of entertainment.

    Having said that, I am entirely jealous about you having those ticket stubs. That wasn't something my family, or anyone else I knew, did when I was a kid. Today, of course, I keep them, scan them in, add them to a Facebook album, and maintain a Letterboxd diary detailing the date and setting for each movie I see. Oh, those lost years...! *cries*
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