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  • Travis S McClainTravis S McClain ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm having fun with this idea, so let's throw a tentative start date out there. Convergence Day.

    Here's the break down:

    Year 1 (73)
    01-14-2016 Alternate Future Bashir
    01-14-2016 Captain Scott
    01-14-2016 Captain Sisko
    01-14-2016 Changeling Founder
    01-14-2016 Commander Troi
    01-14-2016 Crell Moset
    01-14-2016 Enterprise-E Picard
    01-14-2016 Grand Nagus Rom
    01-14-2016 Judge Q
    01-14-2016 Lt Commander Jadzia Dax
    01-14-2016 Lt Commander La Forge
    01-14-2016 Mirror Intendant Kira
    01-14-2016 Mirror Regent Worf
    01-14-2016 Mirror Spock
    01-14-2016 Mobile Doctor
    01-14-2016 Scientist Degra
    01-14-2016 Seven of Nine
    01-14-2016 Shinzon
    01-14-2016 Tempted Data
    01-14-2016 Wrathful Khan
    03-10-2016 Abraham Lincoln
    03-30-2016 Arachnia Janeway
    04-05-2016 Phoenix Cochrane
    04-20-2016 1701 Sisko
    05-05-2016 Gangster Spock
    05-09-2016 Mademoiselle de Neuf
    05-11-2016 Mirror Kirk
    05-26-2016 Bashir, Julian Bashir
    06-01-2016 Frank Hollander
    06-15-2016 "Dark Ages" McCoy
    06-20-2016 Dr. Soong
    06-29-2016 Kal-if-fee Kirk
    07-14-2016 Detective Data
    07-20-2016 Disguised Kira
    07-27-2016 Doctor Chaotica
    08-02-2016 Admiral Riker
    08-08-2016 Admiral Janeway
    08-11-2016 Captain La Forge
    08-17-2016 General Chang
    08-17-2016 The Professor
    08-24-2016 Grand Nagus Zek
    08-30-2016 Grilka
    08-31-2016 Aviator Yar
    08-31-2016 RAF Miles O'Brien
    09-05-2016 The One, Lore
    09-07-2016 23rd Century Martok
    09-14-2016 Pah-wraith Cult Dukat
    09-21-2016 Age of Sail Crusher
    09-28-2016 Suliban Reed
    10-05-2016 Jazz Musician Odo
    10-27-2016 Rogue Kai Winn
    10-28-2016 Sulan
    11-03-2016 Interfaced Barclay
    11-04-2016 Enabran Tain
    11-04-2016 Trelane
    11-10-2016 Kai Opaka
    11-17-2016 Admiral Nechayev
    11-17-2016 Duelist Torres
    11-22-2016 Delta Flyer Paris
    11-22-2016 Dr. Richard Daystrom
    11-30-2016 Mirror T'Pol
    12-05-2016 Chancellor Gowron
    12-07-2016 North Star Tucker
    12-07-2016 Undercover Sulu
    12-14-2016 Admiral Cartwright
    12-14-2016 Gul Madred
    12-20-2016 Captain Pike
    12-21-2016 Beowulf Kim
    12-21-2016 Will Scarlett
    12-28-2016 Orion Vina
    01-04-2017 Obsidian Order Garak
    01-11-2017 C.O.P. Founder Picard
    01-11-2017 Convergence Day Quark

    Year 2 (75)
    01-18-2017 Captain Nog
    01-25-2017 Lieutenant Wesley Crusher
    01-25-2017 The Traveler
    02-01-2017 Dancing Uhura
    02-08-2017 Captain Morgan Bateson
    02-16-2017 Ambassador Troi
    02-20-2017 Umpire Odo
    02-22-2017 Goddess of Empathy Troi
    03-06-2017 Ushaan Archer
    03-06-2017 Ushaan Shran
    03-08-2017 Agent Janeway
    03-15-2017 Garak, Elim Garak
    03-27-2017 Age of Sail Riker
    03-27-2017 Emotion Chip Data
    03-29-2017 Durango Troi
    03-29-2017 Joachim
    04-03-2017 Augment Picard
    04-05-2017 Klingon Bride Jadzia
    04-10-2017 First Officer Chekov
    04-10-2017 First Officer Riker
    04-12-2017 Mintakan Riker
    04-19-2017 Gangster Kirk
    04-27-2017 Kahless the Unforgettable
    05-03-2017 Assimilated Torres
    05-04-2017 Borg Queen
    05-08-2017 Falcon O'Brien
    05-10-2017 One
    05-17-2017 Assimilated La Forge
    05-24-2017 Assimilated Janeway
    06-05-2017 Yarnek
    06-07-2017 Benny Russell
    06-12-2017 Maquis Tuvok
    06-12-2017 Revolutionary Damar
    06-14-2017 Sheriff of Nottingham Q
    06-21-2017 Commander Kira Nerys
    06-26-2017 Admiral Kirk
    07-06-2017 Kortar
    07-12-2017 Protomorphosis Worf
    07-19-2017 Dahar Master Kang
    07-26-2017 Klingon Janeway
    08-14-2017 Katrine
    08-14-2017 Nyota Uhura
    08-16-2017 Mirror Bashir
    08-21-2017 The Keeper
    08-30-2017 Ilia Probe
    09-04-2017 Musketeer La Forge
    09-06-2017 Romulan Data
    09-13-2017 Zhian'tara Odo
    09-20-2017 Laborer Spock
    09-25-2017 First Officer Burnham
    09-25-2017 Rura Penthe Kirk
    09-25-2017 Temporal Prisoner Chakotay
    09-27-2017 Trader Worf
    09-28-2017 Smitten Jean-Luc Picard
    10-04-2017 Desert Philippa Georgiou
    10-05-2017 T'Kuvma
    10-11-2017 Captain Lorca
    10-18-2017 Cadet Sylvia Tilly
    10-25-2017 Harcourt Fenton Mudd
    11-07-2017 Ambassador Soval
    11-07-2017 Defensive Phlox
    11-08-2017 Torchbearer Rejac
    11-20-2017 Niners Sisko
    11-21-2017 Honey Bare Jadzia
    11-28-2017 Dr. Hugh Culber
    11-29-2017 Leonardo da Vinci
    12-06-2017 Mirror Reed
    12-07-2017 Mirror Jean-Luc Picard
    12-13-2017 Mirror Data
    12-19-2017 Temporal Agent Daniels
    12-20-2017 Mirror Beverly Crusher
    12-27-2017 Mirror Inquisitor Troi
    12-27-2017 Ripper
    01-02-2018 Satan's Robot
    01-09-2018 Mariachi Q

    Year 3 (109)
    01-16-2018 Vengeful L'Rell
    01-17-2018 Gladiator McCoy
    01-23-2018 EV Suit Archer
    01-24-2018 Protomorphosis Barclay
    01-30-2018 Captain Lorian
    01-31-2018 Dress Uniform Scotty
    02-01-2018 Prisoner Katrina Cornwell
    02-06-2018 Away Team Saru
    02-14-2018 Suus Mahna Sarek
    02-20-2018 Tora Ziyal
    02-21-2018 Lissan
    02-27-2018 Mirror Shukar
    03-06-2018 Surgeon Pulaski
    03-07-2018 Resistance Neelix
    03-13-2018 Captain Beverly Picard
    03-13-2018 Xindi Insectoid Councilor
    03-14-2018 Martian Quark
    03-20-2018 Timicin
    03-21-2018 Loque'eque Sato
    03-27-2018 Captain Thadiun Okona
    04-03-2018 Mirror Zefram Cochrane
    04-05-2018 Kolinahr Spock
    04-06-2018 Surak
    04-10-2018 Annorax
    04-12-2018 Warship Tuvok
    04-17-2018 Vulcan Executioner
    04-18-2018 Senator Vreenak
    04-24-2018 Portal 63
    04-25-2018 Romulan Picard
    05-01-2018 Inglatu
    05-08-2018 Prophet Sarah Sisko
    05-09-2018 Virtuoso Doctor
    05-15-2018 Gunslinger Uhura
    05-16-2018 Captain Killy
    05-22-2018 Pah-wraith Keiko
    05-23-2018 War Correspondent Jake Sisko
    05-29-2018 Captain Rachel Garrett
    05-30-2018 Enemy Lines Sisko
    05-31-2018 Bell Riots Bashir
    06-05-2018 Chancellor Gorkon
    06-05-2018 Tosk
    06-06-2018 Bell Riots Jadzia Dax
    06-12-2018 Solar Sails Sisko
    06-13-2018 Species 8472 Invader
    06-20-2018 Augment Commander O'Brien
    06-26-2018 Miranda Jones
    06-27-2018 Dancing Chekov
    07-04-2018 Queen Guinevere Kira
    07-10-2018 Mambo Picard
    07-11-2018 Interfaced La Forge
    07-17-2018 Niners Worf
    07-18-2018 Satin Dress Lily Sloane
    07-24-2018 Rain Robinson
    07-25-2018 Emperor Philippa Georgiou
    08-01-2018 Alternate Future Jadzia Dax
    08-01-2018 Merry Men Crusher
    08-02-2018 Ahdar Ru'afo
    08-07-2018 Amelia Earhart
    08-08-2018 Polywater Yar
    08-14-2018 Gary Seven
    08-15-2018 Reverend Phlox
    08-21-2018 Alternate Future T'Pol
    08-22-2018 Changeling Martok
    08-29-2018 Professor Sato
    09-04-2018 EV Suit Burnham
    09-05-2018 Elizabeth Dehner
    09-07-2018 Astrosciences Sulu
    09-11-2018 Age of Sail Data
    09-12-2018 Maid Marian
    09-18-2018 Tyler, Son of None
    09-19-2018 The Prophet
    09-25-2018 EV Suit Seven
    09-26-2018 Tucker On-The-Ropes
    10-02-2018 Mugato
    10-02-2018 Tuxedo Nog
    10-04-2018 Minuet
    10-08-2018 Gloria
    10-15-2018 Data V
    10-16-2018 Phlox, Au Naturel
    10-22-2018 Musketeer Picard
    10-23-2018 Fennim
    10-23-2018 Lucille Davenport
    10-29-2018 Captain Silva La Forge
    10-30-2018 Covert Operative Leland
    11-05-2018 H.M.S. Pinafore Data
    11-06-2018 Commodore Robert April
    11-12-2018 Weyoun Clone 5
    11-13-2018 Joseph Sisko
    11-13-2018 Prince Bashir
    11-19-2018 Captain Spock
    11-20-2018 Survivalist Kirk
    11-26-2018 Layna
    11-27-2018 Mirror Sulu
    12-03-2018 Mountaineer Spock
    12-04-2018 Away Team Michael Burnham
    12-04-2018 Sergey and Helena Rozhenko
    12-06-2018 Etana Jol
    12-10-2018 Sphere-Builder Presage
    12-17-2018 Humbled Archer
    12-18-2018 Boothby Replicant
    12-24-2018 High Roller Sisko
    12-25-2018 Juliana Tainer
    12-31-2018 Warship EMA
    01-01-2019 Governor Worf
    01-07-2019 Assimilated Hawk
    01-08-2019 Lonzak
    01-14-2019 Five of Twelve
    01-15-2019 Dahar Master Koloth
    01-15-2019 Seven in Silver
    Question one: do players want this?

    Maybe. Not on Tuesday.
    Question Two: what does DB stand to gain?

    Not my problem to solve.
    Oh... And the existing Legendaries that were Tuesday pack only... Should they be added to DL pool sooner than, later than, or the same amount of time as the other DL's?

    Same.
    Should there be an option to buy DL beholds with honor in the Honor Hall?

    YES.
  • Prime LorcaPrime Lorca ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just put old golds in a collection with a stat booster for that collection that only applies to the cards inside.

    For instance, release day golds could be in a collection that gives them a 1~10% across the board stat and proficiency boost as you collect them.

    This seems much easier to program. Excellent idea.

    Thank you, @Travis S McClain . The information is thorough and the answers concise. I think they could start with year 1 and add weekly.
    Farewell 🖖
  • It would have been nice if there'd been multiple ways for stat boosts, example:

    XP wouldn't update the cards level, only trainers would do that, but they'd have an additional experience level that could keep on going like the Captain Level, adding a %age boost to skills, providing an impetus to keep spending chrons so older cards can keep up with newer ones.

    Also an age level, every card gets a stats boost based on how old it is, maybe a 0.1% per month so a 2 year old card has a 2.4% boost on every stat.

    It might make the wiki more challenging though!
  • I've been long saying that there needs to be done something about old devalued legendary's the great majority of them are worse then 4/4's by far in 1 or 2 stars some at even 3-4. There needs to be a way to put these cards out to pasture, FF and then freezing is a nice way of not getting anyone angry about his shiny "new" Shinzon :smile:
  • IkritIkrit ✭✭✭
    Ikrit wrote: »

    I don't think rebalancing and separating would work together. It would make the old stuff too appealing at a discount and the new stuff not appealing enough. After thinking about it, it should be one or the other.

    Your idea about removing the old from the regular portal is pretty good. I hadn't thought of that, so thank you. :)
    The exception to my rebalancing plan would be Captain Scott, who is the only 5* (or 4*) with one skill.

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    Nuts! I thought that there was a 4*, but I couldn't remember who it was. She was one of the first crew I froze when I started 3 years ago.
  • SoupKitchen RikerSoupKitchen Riker ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like much of the OP. It would be nice to have a more focused method to obtain those DL’s one may have missed in yesteryears. It would also be nice for DB to try and find a way to make DL’s more relevant in the game. Granted, they may not be as sought after as some of the newer cards, but they could have life again...and on Tuesday no less!

    Some have mentioned altering stats... I think that is a slippery slope. As some have pointed out, all you are doing is turning a Kai Opaka into a Minuet, which to me seems unnecessary. However, there are cards that seem, for lack of a better term, “underpowered” in the stats department. It’s tough to say who is deserving and who is not.

    In any event, I like the idea of dusting off DL’s and obtaining “new to me” albeit older legendaries. I’d be a fan of DL missions every Tuesday.
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  • PinkyfirstPinkyfirst ✭✭✭
    I still really like this idea. I am on the verge of ruthlessly airlocking numerous older legendaries that are at 1* or 2* and really have no value to me whatsoever. I don't really need the crew space, but I just hate seeing so many "legendary" characters that are underwhelming, sitting FE, at level 100 that aren't worth a citation. This idea would help make that them at least easier to obtain...and if they released a "day one" or "convergent day" collection that utilized the oldest crew it would definitely help me, personally, justify spending dilitium on these DLs instead of receiving a miniscule amount of honor so they can go meet all the Wesleys that have been airlocked.
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