Did anyine here play Sonic Runners before it was shut down??
If so, anyone will tell you anyone will tell you about the odds of the dreaded spin wheel!!! Now that was just outright money grab with terrible odds.
I personally think there is worse in the world than the rng in a mobile game. If your silly enough to plough loads of cash in to a card collecting game you know has dodgy rng, has quite a few bugs and glitches, has (as some claim) somewhat spotty customer service, and could go offline at any point, then more fool you.
You'd have been better placed actually spending your money on your children, or booking a holiday away with them, or putting it towards buying some serious Trek merch if that floats your boat.
Sorry to sound harsh and troll like but i find the OP so silly and purile in the context of a game designed to get players' money. Its like moaning that the games at the fairground are rigged. We all know they are, and occassionally somebody has to win to keep up the image...but dont kid yourself this game is anything but a buisness thats out to make cash.
One of the world literature's best opening sentences is from Lev Tolstoy's Anna Karenina:
Happy families are all alike; every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way.
I guess this also applies to gamers. I am particularly unhappy about the chore of having to do 5 arena battles, others may find it exciting to be able to fight for 1st place. I know others are upset about e.g. the structure of event rewards, but since I don't usually push for top1000, I don't care that much.
What does really bother me is when someone else is trying to order others players on if and how they spend their money. I'll be the judge on what I spend, thank you very much. If I want to spend money, I'll spend money. If I don't want to, I won't. People have absolutely no right whatsoever to demand changes in anyone else's expenditure patterns to better suit their unhappiness.
So if you're here to share your bad luck, I'll sympathize for you. If you use your sob story to urge me into spending less (or more), you'll get no sympathy from me.
Just my $0.02 on forum etiquette.
Most anticipated character not in the game: Mr. Homn
If your silly enough to plough loads of cash in to a card collecting game you know has dodgy rng, has quite a few bugs and glitches, has (as some claim) somewhat spotty customer service, and could go offline at any point, then more fool you.
You'd have been better placed actually spending your money on your children, or booking a holiday away with them, or putting it towards buying some serious Trek merch if that floats your boat.
Why don´t you revisit some of your hard games and stop to tell people what do to with THEIR money. Their money, not yours. They worked for it, not you. And they are free to do with it however it pleases them.
Also with your terms like silly and fool you insult the very people who keep the game alive for everyone. Also you. Probably surprising to you furthermore there are peeps who can do everything (and more) you suggested and still treat themselves to some stuff in this game
If your silly enough to plough loads of cash in to a card collecting game you know has dodgy rng, has quite a few bugs and glitches, has (as some claim) somewhat spotty customer service, and could go offline at any point, then more fool you.
You'd have been better placed actually spending your money on your children, or booking a holiday away with them, or putting it towards buying some serious Trek merch if that floats your boat.
Why don´t you revisit some of your hard games and stop to tell people what do to with THEIR money. Their money, not yours. They worked for it, not you. And they are free to do with it however it pleases them.
Also with your terms like silly and fool you insult the very people who keep the game alive for everyone. Also you. Probably surprising to you furthermore there are peeps who can do everything (and more) you suggested and still treat themselves to some stuff in this game
Lol
They can spend on whatever they want. But do we have to listen to them moan about it bei g unfair and tell us what to do with our money as a result.
Its like the old woman carrying a side of beef and moaning she has no bread.
Also when does a suggestion become a "telling"??
As for the off hand people can do it all comment. Really?? I had no idea. For I live in a victorian workhouse and have no idea of the finances of this world and how people use it.
Sounds like the fun stopped for you on this thread a while ago.
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And you say you're going to continue to spend - on an app you claim is unfair and should be banned.
And so what? What’s your point? I can afford spending for campaigns, monthly card, DYC and other guaranteed stuff even if the app has flawed RNG and in fact is a gambling app (and I think you smart enough to google what’s with ongoing issue to consider micro transactions loot boxes apps as a gambling)
If I thought a company was cheating me out of my money, as you're claiming DB are doing with you, I wouldn't give them my money. It's not a question of being able to afford it or not.
And if I was petitioning authorities claiming that the app was in violation of both store policy and national law, and if I genuinely believed those things to be true, then I would expect the app to be pulled imminently - in which case spending money would be a complete waste - or at the very least, significantly reworked, most likely in my favor - in which case, spending hundreds of dollars immediately before an anticipated rework would be questionable.
By the way, when words are blue, like this, you can press them with your finger or move your mouse cursor over them and click them. It's a "link", and it connects you to other relevant websites. If you scroll back to my earlier post, you can see I already linked you to information about loot boxes. And your post immediately before that seemed to consider all gambling the same, as if you were completely unaware of loot boxes and loot box legislation. How mysterious!
Well, how the fact that some player continue to spend money in the game makes RNG implementation not flawed? I see that instead of talking objectively about this matter you decided to make this personal. How nice of you. Do me a favor please - just sod off
At this point, I am convinced that you are nothing more than a troll. Not just this thread, either, but the entire way you’ve conducted yourself on the forum to others since joining. Shan hasn’t had to whip out the blue text for a while but it’s coming here, thanks to your baseless accusations and combativeness.
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And you say you're going to continue to spend - on an app you claim is unfair and should be banned.
And so what? What’s your point? I can afford spending for campaigns, monthly card, DYC and other guaranteed stuff even if the app has flawed RNG and in fact is a gambling app (and I think you smart enough to google what’s with ongoing issue to consider micro transactions loot boxes apps as a gambling)
If I thought a company was cheating me out of my money, as you're claiming DB are doing with you, I wouldn't give them my money. It's not a question of being able to afford it or not.
And if I was petitioning authorities claiming that the app was in violation of both store policy and national law, and if I genuinely believed those things to be true, then I would expect the app to be pulled imminently - in which case spending money would be a complete waste - or at the very least, significantly reworked, most likely in my favor - in which case, spending hundreds of dollars immediately before an anticipated rework would be questionable.
By the way, when words are blue, like this, you can press them with your finger or move your mouse cursor over them and click them. It's a "link", and it connects you to other relevant websites. If you scroll back to my earlier post, you can see I already linked you to information about loot boxes. And your post immediately before that seemed to consider all gambling the same, as if you were completely unaware of loot boxes and loot box legislation. How mysterious!
Well, how the fact that some player continue to spend money in the game makes RNG implementation not flawed? I see that instead of talking objectively about this matter you decided to make this personal. How nice of you. Do me a favor please - just sod off
At this point, I am convinced that you are nothing more than a troll. Not just this thread, either, but the entire way you’ve conducted yourself on the forum to others since joining. Shan hasn’t had to whip out the blue text for a while but it’s coming here, thanks to your baseless accusations and combativeness.
Oh man, seriously? Trollophobia? Especially I like that part about “entire way I’ve conducted myself to others since joining”. But whatever.
If you are fed up, then quit. No need to announce it, you are not in public office or giving a 2 week notice on a job. Just quit. Coming on here ranting about it isn't going to change anything. Just attention seeking..boo-hoo. I don't know whats worse, this or the guy who for 2 weeks in UC, everyday had to announce his impending "retirement"...at least 10 times a day for 2 weeks, count down clock and all. What an attention "tsk tsk". Then guess what? 3 days later he is back..oh boy didn't see that coming.....
In my other game I play they made a change and if you don't get the "Legendary" from that banner in 10 pulls then you get a free one. Not a random character, but the one in the banner.
If we are afraid this will rise the price for the packs then DB could chose the Legendary.
If you didn't get one after 10 pulls the you get a question: Do you love Burnham? If you answer no then you get Cadet Tilly. If you answer yes you get Shinzon. If the system see that you airlocked Minuet you get one free.
Everyone is happy.
Sometimes rng falls in your favor. During the Mountaineer Spock event I bought eight event packs and did not get a single Mountaineer Spock. But then in a behold a couple days ago I got him plus another Spock.
Place your bets on what time on Monday this discussion is closed. I got 500 quatloos on 10:20AM EST.....
It depends on how many other comments are here after the arguments. I say 8:30 Eastern time.
This thread has been amusing to me. It reminds me of my kids keeping a useless argument going to get the last word or to prove their point or because the other one started it. I'm certainly guilty of not following my own advice from time to time, but we tell our kids that they don't have to show up to every argument to which they're invited.
Again, I shall repeat the bigger issue for those in the back that are too busy calling each-other names. You can 'stop' your spending all you want, and yes you can even really stop spending and not get weird with the "I will only spend campaigns and monthlies".
Go look at the top of the leaderboard every week, or like right now. Also while youre there, go look at the back of any card you have in your crew roster right now. See those names? The names stamped on the back of every card? Those are the real whales, the people who spend the money you don't want to talk about here becasue it's a gross amount. The drop rates or the promise of a gold card if you fail in 10 pulls will never happen because those names you just looked at? They will spend for them in the current environment. STT would be cutting off its own arm and leg to please the small spenders if they reduced the pipeline of the big spenders. The current system has been around for 4 years and will continue until this game goes away like other games.
Place your bets on what time on Monday this discussion is closed. I got 500 quatloos on 10:20AM EST.....
It depends on how many other comments are here after the arguments. I say 8:30 Eastern time.
This thread has been amusing to me. It reminds me of my kids keeping a useless argument going to get the last word or to prove their point or because the other one started it. I'm certainly guilty of not following my own advice from time to time, but we tell our kids that they don't have to show up to every argument to which they're invited.
I'll take 9:15am Eastern Daylight Time.
And can I get 1:7 odds that Vesmer gets the last post before it's closed? If so, I'm in for another 200 quatloos on that one.
I can imagine Shan getting to the office, bringing up the forums, seeing 140 comments on a thread entitled "Finally Fed Up With DB", and immediately heading back to the coffee maker.
Place your bets on what time on Monday this discussion is closed. I got 500 quatloos on 10:20AM EST.....
It depends on how many other comments are here after the arguments. I say 8:30 Eastern time.
This thread has been amusing to me. It reminds me of my kids keeping a useless argument going to get the last word or to prove their point or because the other one started it. I'm certainly guilty of not following my own advice from time to time, but we tell our kids that they don't have to show up to every argument to which they're invited.
I'll take 9:15am Eastern Daylight Time.
And can I get 1:7 odds that Vesmer gets the last post before it's closed? If so, I'm in for another 200 quatloos on that one.
Place your bets on what time on Monday this discussion is closed. I got 500 quatloos on 10:20AM EST.....
It depends on how many other comments are here after the arguments. I say 8:30 Eastern time.
This thread has been amusing to me. It reminds me of my kids keeping a useless argument going to get the last word or to prove their point or because the other one started it. I'm certainly guilty of not following my own advice from time to time, but we tell our kids that they don't have to show up to every argument to which they're invited.
I'll take 9:15am Eastern Daylight Time.
And can I get 1:7 odds that Vesmer gets the last post before it's closed? If so, I'm in for another 200 quatloos on that one.
Place your bets on what time on Monday this discussion is closed. I got 500 quatloos on 10:20AM EST.....
It depends on how many other comments are here after the arguments. I say 8:30 Eastern time.
This thread has been amusing to me. It reminds me of my kids keeping a useless argument going to get the last word or to prove their point or because the other one started it. I'm certainly guilty of not following my own advice from time to time, but we tell our kids that they don't have to show up to every argument to which they're invited.
I'll take 9:15am Eastern Daylight Time.
And can I get 1:7 odds that Vesmer gets the last post before it's closed? If so, I'm in for another 200 quatloos on that one.
Place your bets on what time on Monday this discussion is closed. I got 500 quatloos on 10:20AM EST.....
It depends on how many other comments are here after the arguments. I say 8:30 Eastern time.
This thread has been amusing to me. It reminds me of my kids keeping a useless argument going to get the last word or to prove their point or because the other one started it. I'm certainly guilty of not following my own advice from time to time, but we tell our kids that they don't have to show up to every argument to which they're invited.
I'll take 9:15am Eastern Daylight Time.
And can I get 1:7 odds that Vesmer gets the last post before it's closed? If so, I'm in for another 200 quatloos on that one.
Place your bets on what time on Monday this discussion is closed. I got 500 quatloos on 10:20AM EST.....
It depends on how many other comments are here after the arguments. I say 8:30 Eastern time.
This thread has been amusing to me. It reminds me of my kids keeping a useless argument going to get the last word or to prove their point or because the other one started it. I'm certainly guilty of not following my own advice from time to time, but we tell our kids that they don't have to show up to every argument to which they're invited.
I'll take 9:15am Eastern Daylight Time.
And can I get 1:7 odds that Vesmer gets the last post before it's closed? If so, I'm in for another 200 quatloos on that one.
Place your bets on what time on Monday this discussion is closed. I got 500 quatloos on 10:20AM EST.....
It depends on how many other comments are here after the arguments. I say 8:30 Eastern time.
This thread has been amusing to me. It reminds me of my kids keeping a useless argument going to get the last word or to prove their point or because the other one started it. I'm certainly guilty of not following my own advice from time to time, but we tell our kids that they don't have to show up to every argument to which they're invited.
I'll take 9:15am Eastern Daylight Time.
And can I get 1:7 odds that Vesmer gets the last post before it's closed? If so, I'm in for another 200 quatloos on that one.
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If so, anyone will tell you anyone will tell you about the odds of the dreaded spin wheel!!! Now that was just outright money grab with terrible odds.
I personally think there is worse in the world than the rng in a mobile game. If your silly enough to plough loads of cash in to a card collecting game you know has dodgy rng, has quite a few bugs and glitches, has (as some claim) somewhat spotty customer service, and could go offline at any point, then more fool you.
You'd have been better placed actually spending your money on your children, or booking a holiday away with them, or putting it towards buying some serious Trek merch if that floats your boat.
Sorry to sound harsh and troll like but i find the OP so silly and purile in the context of a game designed to get players' money. Its like moaning that the games at the fairground are rigged. We all know they are, and occassionally somebody has to win to keep up the image...but dont kid yourself this game is anything but a buisness thats out to make cash.
As the UK gamble aware motto says:
WHEN THE FUN STOPS. STOP.
What does really bother me is when someone else is trying to order others players on if and how they spend their money. I'll be the judge on what I spend, thank you very much. If I want to spend money, I'll spend money. If I don't want to, I won't. People have absolutely no right whatsoever to demand changes in anyone else's expenditure patterns to better suit their unhappiness.
So if you're here to share your bad luck, I'll sympathize for you. If you use your sob story to urge me into spending less (or more), you'll get no sympathy from me.
Just my $0.02 on forum etiquette.
Why don´t you revisit some of your hard games and stop to tell people what do to with THEIR money. Their money, not yours. They worked for it, not you. And they are free to do with it however it pleases them.
Also with your terms like silly and fool you insult the very people who keep the game alive for everyone. Also you. Probably surprising to you furthermore there are peeps who can do everything (and more) you suggested and still treat themselves to some stuff in this game
Lol
They can spend on whatever they want. But do we have to listen to them moan about it bei g unfair and tell us what to do with our money as a result.
Its like the old woman carrying a side of beef and moaning she has no bread.
Also when does a suggestion become a "telling"??
As for the off hand people can do it all comment. Really?? I had no idea. For I live in a victorian workhouse and have no idea of the finances of this world and how people use it.
Sounds like the fun stopped for you on this thread a while ago.
At this point, I am convinced that you are nothing more than a troll. Not just this thread, either, but the entire way you’ve conducted yourself on the forum to others since joining. Shan hasn’t had to whip out the blue text for a while but it’s coming here, thanks to your baseless accusations and combativeness.
Oh man, seriously? Trollophobia? Especially I like that part about “entire way I’ve conducted myself to others since joining”. But whatever.
If we are afraid this will rise the price for the packs then DB could chose the Legendary.
If you didn't get one after 10 pulls the you get a question: Do you love Burnham? If you answer no then you get Cadet Tilly. If you answer yes you get Shinzon. If the system see that you airlocked Minuet you get one free.
Everyone is happy.
It depends on how many other comments are here after the arguments. I say 8:30 Eastern time.
This thread has been amusing to me. It reminds me of my kids keeping a useless argument going to get the last word or to prove their point or because the other one started it. I'm certainly guilty of not following my own advice from time to time, but we tell our kids that they don't have to show up to every argument to which they're invited.
You are a whale cause that much popcorn at a theater would set you back a hundred bucks or more.
Ha! I’m trying to stress how this just keeps getting better and better. I’m so gripped I keep going back for more popcorn
Go look at the top of the leaderboard every week, or like right now. Also while youre there, go look at the back of any card you have in your crew roster right now. See those names? The names stamped on the back of every card? Those are the real whales, the people who spend the money you don't want to talk about here becasue it's a gross amount. The drop rates or the promise of a gold card if you fail in 10 pulls will never happen because those names you just looked at? They will spend for them in the current environment. STT would be cutting off its own arm and leg to please the small spenders if they reduced the pipeline of the big spenders. The current system has been around for 4 years and will continue until this game goes away like other games.
I'll take 9:15am Eastern Daylight Time.
And can I get 1:7 odds that Vesmer gets the last post before it's closed? If so, I'm in for another 200 quatloos on that one.
My odds are on Shan having the last comment
Well played.
I meant besides Shan.
Either way this one was a fun ride!
It is sad that to this day we still cannot have a thread without personal attacks.