Whatever you do, RECALL the voyage immediately after the final, 36th dilemma. I was masochistic enough to dilithium my way through all 36 Dilemmas and stuck around too long. Once the system tries to load another dilemma, it can't rerun any of them, so it freezes voyages! Then you've got to submit a ticket and wait for DB to unlock it, which may take longer than the 28 or so hours recalling the voyage would take anyway.
Just save up your voyage tokens and don't make a run until you have enough to clear the board. Anything else is asking for RNG to disappoint you.
How exactly are you supposed to "save" 30 voyage tokens? Don't extend ANY voyages for 30 weeks of events? Don't claim ANY event rewards for several months (so the tokens are not in your inventory when you extend a voyage)? Hope for bugs so you get SorryTokens in the mail from DB (the only kind you can save)?
I wish they would make extending a voyage a choice (use diithium or use a voyage token)...
Your Voyage can also freeze for literally no reason before the 36 dilemma mark, when I lost mine at 67 hours, the only remaining dilemmas I was missing were Champion Part 3 and Higher Duty Part 2 and 3. Seriously, no joke. Those 3, and it froze. DB made it right, but it took 4 or 5 days to unlock the Voyage and crew and I lost out on chrons for those days.
I now have all 6 Voyage crew, 5 of the 6 immortal, with Worf only waiting on his last cite from this campaign. I am grateful the chase is over, I haven’t extended a voyage since.
Just save up your voyage tokens and don't make a run until you have enough to clear the board. Anything else is asking for RNG to disappoint you.
How exactly are you supposed to "save" 30 voyage tokens? Don't extend ANY voyages for 30 weeks of events? Don't claim ANY event rewards for several months (so the tokens are not in your inventory when you extend a voyage)? Hope for bugs so you get SorryTokens in the mail from DB (the only kind you can save)?
I wish they would make extending a voyage a choice (use diithium or use a voyage token)...
Just save up your voyage tokens and don't make a run until you have enough to clear the board. Anything else is asking for RNG to disappoint you.
How exactly are you supposed to "save" 30 voyage tokens? Don't extend ANY voyages for 30 weeks of events? Don't claim ANY event rewards for several months (so the tokens are not in your inventory when you extend a voyage)? Hope for bugs so you get SorryTokens in the mail from DB (the only kind you can save)?
I wish they would make extending a voyage a choice (use diithium or use a voyage token)...
Yes, don't extend any voyage. It's not that hard.
Actually, it can be when you are in that grey area between 8 & 10 hours, where the Voyage runs low on AM, but continues for another 98 minutes, where you can't get additional warnings and either have to monitor it the whole time, or get sidetracked and forget, forcing you to use a token for your laziness.
The only way to save yourself from this problem is consistently recall no matter how much AM you have left. My thinking is why do Voyages at all if that is your resulting play.
Having hit 10 hours a few dozen times now, the differences between what you bring home after 8 hours and what you bring home after 10 hours is extremely negligible. As AviTrek said, it's a very simple matter. Don't try to go for 10 hours unless you're able to watch your Voyage carefully or are very nearly certain you have more than enough AM to get there. "Why do Voyages at all" if you can't go for 10 hours every time is sort of shooting yourself in the foot (not to mention a quite myopic point of view). There are, obviously, plenty of excellent reasons to do Voyages if you recall right away after the 8 hour dilemma. Point is, if you want to store up Voyage tokens, you do need to be a little vigilant, and you do need to stop taking those risks. Neither of which should be a difficult task in the slightest.
Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing. ~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
Just save up your voyage tokens and don't make a run until you have enough to clear the board. Anything else is asking for RNG to disappoint you.
How exactly are you supposed to "save" 30 voyage tokens? Don't extend ANY voyages for 30 weeks of events? Don't claim ANY event rewards for several months (so the tokens are not in your inventory when you extend a voyage)? Hope for bugs so you get SorryTokens in the mail from DB (the only kind you can save)?
I wish they would make extending a voyage a choice (use diithium or use a voyage token)...
Yes, don't extend any voyage. It's not that hard.
Actually, it can be when you are in that grey area between 8 & 10 hours, where the Voyage runs low on AM, but continues for another 98 minutes, where you can't get additional warnings and either have to monitor it the whole time, or get sidetracked and forget, forcing you to use a token for your laziness.
The only way to save yourself from this problem is consistently recall no matter how much AM you have left. My thinking is why do Voyages at all if that is your resulting play.
Know your schedule, don't start past 8 hours if you won't be able to recall when needed. Set alarms to remind yourself. Be willing to recall with 200 AM if you're about to be occupied for the next 30 minutes and won't be able to recall. Does it take effort yes, but the same is true at any point in a Voyage. Say you use your token at 9.5 hours, well what are you going to do at 11.5 hours when the same thing happens again? At some point you need to recall that Voyage. As long as you're on top of it you can remember to recall.
Yes, you may forget once in a while. Maybe the Voyage was garbage and you just let it fail. Maybe it has a crew you need and you use a token. Well that only delays you one week. As long as you're not extending all the time you'll be fine. But it's certainly possible to save your tokens to make a long Voyage if you plan accordingly.
For myself I found it stressful to try to save tokens. I saved 3 for the 20 hours voyage but voyaging was no fun for me any more that way. So I abandoned the whole attempt and spent them. I really love voyages most in the game and do not want to spoil the fun with this saving. The 20 hours I will do some day with email-tokens. The three-parter hunt I will never do.
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Having hit 10 hours a few dozen times now, the differences between what you bring home after 8 hours and what you bring home after 10 hours is extremely negligible. As AviTrek said, it's a very simple matter. Don't try to go for 10 hours unless you're able to watch your Voyage carefully or are very nearly certain you have more than enough AM to get there. "Why do Voyages at all" if you can't go for 10 hours every time is sort of shooting yourself in the foot (not to mention a quite myopic point of view). There are, obviously, plenty of excellent reasons to do Voyages if you recall right away after the 8 hour dilemma. Point is, if you want to store up Voyage tokens, you do need to be a little vigilant, and you do need to stop taking those risks. Neither of which should be a difficult task in the slightest.
Preach, brother. The biggest drain on my voyage token stockpile is when I clear the 8-hour dilemma shortly before bedtime and say, “but of course I will remember to recall before going to sleep” and then not do that. Waking up the next morning, ready to collect goodies and send a new voyage, and finding out it petered out at 9:12 isn’t the greatest feeling in the world....I sometimes express these feelings of disappointment by reviving, clearing the 10-hour dilemma, and then missing my timer again - the lesson finally sinks in after clearing the 12-hour dilemma.
I always recall after the 8h Dilemma. I'm just after chronitons these days. I'll make another run at Colonel Worf eventually. He's what's important to me, so I will definitely let that ship crash rather than forfeit a revival token. I don't care what else is in the loot. Better to recall with 289 chronitons and start anew than get greedy and hope another 30 drop.
Having hit 10 hours a few dozen times now, the differences between what you bring home after 8 hours and what you bring home after 10 hours is extremely negligible. As AviTrek said, it's a very simple matter. Don't try to go for 10 hours unless you're able to watch your Voyage carefully or are very nearly certain you have more than enough AM to get there. "Why do Voyages at all" if you can't go for 10 hours every time is sort of shooting yourself in the foot (not to mention a quite myopic point of view). There are, obviously, plenty of excellent reasons to do Voyages if you recall right away after the 8 hour dilemma. Point is, if you want to store up Voyage tokens, you do need to be a little vigilant, and you do need to stop taking those risks. Neither of which should be a difficult task in the slightest.
Preach, brother. The biggest drain on my voyage token stockpile is when I clear the 8-hour dilemma shortly before bedtime and say, “but of course I will remember to recall before going to sleep” and then not do that. Waking up the next morning, ready to collect goodies and send a new voyage, and finding out it petered out at 9:12 isn’t the greatest feeling in the world....I sometimes express these feelings of disappointment by reviving, clearing the 10-hour dilemma, and then missing my timer again - the lesson finally sinks in after clearing the 12-hour dilemma.
Happened to me the other day. I kept forgetting when it crashed at 9:46, then I think 11:53, and 13:57. I didn’t mind forgetting cuz I kept telling myself I’ll get two dilemmas out of a refresh then when that didn’t happen I recalled like seconds before 16 hours.
Anouther member of the "Recall at Eight" club here. At this point, I just need Worf to finish collecting the voyage-exclusives. (I am also a star away from finishing my second copy of the Clown. Seemed like the only one that's worth two copies, and they have been great for the SEC & ENG seats this mega).
UntilI get the first two parts of Worf's path with double-digit tokens in store or have a desire to go for 10 at a time when I can babysit the voyage, it'll just be 8 and back for me. A steady daily supply of chrons and honor is nothing to ignore.
Just save up your voyage tokens and don't make a run until you have enough to clear the board. Anything else is asking for RNG to disappoint you.
How exactly are you supposed to "save" 30 voyage tokens? Don't extend ANY voyages for 30 weeks of events? Don't claim ANY event rewards for several months (so the tokens are not in your inventory when you extend a voyage)? Hope for bugs so you get SorryTokens in the mail from DB (the only kind you can save)?
I wish they would make extending a voyage a choice (use diithium or use a voyage token)...
it would be pretty pretty great to have a starbase room where we can build voyage tokens, kinda like the replicator rations but actually useful, wouldn't it?
Just save up your voyage tokens and don't make a run until you have enough to clear the board. Anything else is asking for RNG to disappoint you.
How exactly are you supposed to "save" 30 voyage tokens? Don't extend ANY voyages for 30 weeks of events? Don't claim ANY event rewards for several months (so the tokens are not in your inventory when you extend a voyage)? Hope for bugs so you get SorryTokens in the mail from DB (the only kind you can save)?
I wish they would make extending a voyage a choice (use diithium or use a voyage token)...
Yes, don't extend any voyage. It's not that hard.
Actually, it can be when you are in that grey area between 8 & 10 hours, where the Voyage runs low on AM, but continues for another 98 minutes, where you can't get additional warnings and either have to monitor it the whole time, or get sidetracked and forget, forcing you to use a token for your laziness.
The only way to save yourself from this problem is consistently recall no matter how much AM you have left. My thinking is why do Voyages at all if that is your resulting play.
I never enter gray area. I know the estimate for my voyages, and recall after 8h regardless if it may go 9h30m. It is very rare anymore to see voyages dropping SR between dilemmas so the risk isnt worth the reward. Save those tokens for that special voyage where they do drop, then extend as long as you like.
Just save up your voyage tokens and don't make a run until you have enough to clear the board. Anything else is asking for RNG to disappoint you.
How exactly are you supposed to "save" 30 voyage tokens? Don't extend ANY voyages for 30 weeks of events? Don't claim ANY event rewards for several months (so the tokens are not in your inventory when you extend a voyage)? Hope for bugs so you get SorryTokens in the mail from DB (the only kind you can save)?
I wish they would make extending a voyage a choice (use diithium or use a voyage token)...
Yes, don't extend any voyage. It's not that hard.
Actually, it can be when you are in that grey area between 8 & 10 hours, where the Voyage runs low on AM, but continues for another 98 minutes, where you can't get additional warnings and either have to monitor it the whole time, or get sidetracked and forget, forcing you to use a token for your laziness.
The only way to save yourself from this problem is consistently recall no matter how much AM you have left. My thinking is why do Voyages at all if that is your resulting play.
I never enter gray area. I know the estimate for my voyages, and recall after 8h regardless if it may go 9h30m. It is very rare anymore to see voyages dropping SR between dilemmas so the risk isnt worth the reward. Save those tokens for that special voyage where they do drop, then extend as long as you like.
Whatever works for you but for me I enjoy the chase. I enjoy working to get my voyages stronger and stronger and for them to go further and further. Seeing if I can squeak out a little further and refining my methods. I get great enjoyment from it and it gives me personal goals that I can work towards and achieve. Something to do when you can do well in events and are looking for another challenge. Trying to get 10hrs in every skill combo and adding stars to my legendaries to make it happen.
Just save up your voyage tokens and don't make a run until you have enough to clear the board. Anything else is asking for RNG to disappoint you.
How exactly are you supposed to "save" 30 voyage tokens? Don't extend ANY voyages for 30 weeks of events? Don't claim ANY event rewards for several months (so the tokens are not in your inventory when you extend a voyage)? Hope for bugs so you get SorryTokens in the mail from DB (the only kind you can save)?
I wish they would make extending a voyage a choice (use diithium or use a voyage token)...
Yes, don't extend any voyage. It's not that hard.
Actually, it can be when you are in that grey area between 8 & 10 hours, where the Voyage runs low on AM, but continues for another 98 minutes, where you can't get additional warnings and either have to monitor it the whole time, or get sidetracked and forget, forcing you to use a token for your laziness.
The only way to save yourself from this problem is consistently recall no matter how much AM you have left. My thinking is why do Voyages at all if that is your resulting play.
I never enter gray area. I know the estimate for my voyages, and recall after 8h regardless if it may go 9h30m. It is very rare anymore to see voyages dropping SR between dilemmas so the risk isnt worth the reward. Save those tokens for that special voyage where they do drop, then extend as long as you like.
Whatever works for you but for me I enjoy the chase. I enjoy working to get my voyages stronger and stronger and for them to go further and further. Seeing if I can squeak out a little further and refining my methods. I get great enjoyment from it and it gives me personal goals that I can work towards and achieve. Something to do when you can do well in events and are looking for another challenge. Trying to get 10hrs in every skill combo and adding stars to my legendaries to make it happen.
I could not have said it better myself. It’s a great gauge of overall crew strength and a good indicator of where your weaknesses are
I said in a previous thread they should introduce a voyage collection as an incentive to keep them.
I am totally for the "locked in" idea to a multi part dilema...or make voyage tokens droppable in voyages or shuttles. At the moment its too much of a faff to get even 1 of the part 3er characters, let alone ff them, which i think you should be abe to do after 8-12 months of continous voyages.
After 12 months you should have:
12 4* Citations from campaigns
52+ Voyage tokens from clearing threshold every week and a couple DB sorry token emails
You need ~28-29 tokens to run the table.
You will have enough to complete 1 full Voyage getting 2 of the 3 part crew.
You will have enough citations to FF both of them.
You will have 23 tokens left and 6 4* citations left.
In another 6 weeks(so 13.5 months total), you will have enough tokens for a second long voyage run to get the other 2 crew.
In 13.5 months you will have all four of 3-part crew FF. If you're lucky and get both part 3s before the final dilemma then you can shave a couple months off of that total.
So you're 8-12 months is right in line with what is possible.
This should be it's own thread entitled "How to play the long game." Lol. Good info.
Just a couple hours ago I immortalized Ensign Picard.
First Picard I got from an almost max dilemma voyage.
Second Picard I think I got at 10 hours. If I recall correctly I came up short of 10 hours and used a token to extend it since it would've gotten me 2 more dilemma's. Parts 1&2 were my first two dilemmas.
Third Picard was from an aborted max dilemma voyage. Again I got Parts 1&2 on my first two dilemmas. I got part 3 after about 24hrs give or take a dilemma. I decided to cut this Voyage short since I'd only used 5 or 6 tokens.
Fourth Picard was from 1st,2nd and 4th dilemma's. Straight up luck there.
I'm currently waiting for an appropriate Voyage to come along to try another max dilemma Voyage. I have the tokens and just waiting for a strong 2950 AM voyage combo. I rarely use the tokens otherwise. The honour can be hard to give up but I only extend if I'll lose something I need.
Another in the 8-n-out club, at least until I get Colonel Worf, the final voyage-only card I'm missing. I've got 22 tokens saved, and when the stars align for starting AM amount, and at least getting the first Champion of the People dilemma within the 8 hours.
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I wondered about that. Thanks for telling us.
How exactly are you supposed to "save" 30 voyage tokens? Don't extend ANY voyages for 30 weeks of events? Don't claim ANY event rewards for several months (so the tokens are not in your inventory when you extend a voyage)? Hope for bugs so you get SorryTokens in the mail from DB (the only kind you can save)?
I wish they would make extending a voyage a choice (use diithium or use a voyage token)...
I now have all 6 Voyage crew, 5 of the 6 immortal, with Worf only waiting on his last cite from this campaign. I am grateful the chase is over, I haven’t extended a voyage since.
Yes, don't extend any voyage. It's not that hard.
Actually, it can be when you are in that grey area between 8 & 10 hours, where the Voyage runs low on AM, but continues for another 98 minutes, where you can't get additional warnings and either have to monitor it the whole time, or get sidetracked and forget, forcing you to use a token for your laziness.
The only way to save yourself from this problem is consistently recall no matter how much AM you have left. My thinking is why do Voyages at all if that is your resulting play.
Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.
~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
Know your schedule, don't start past 8 hours if you won't be able to recall when needed. Set alarms to remind yourself. Be willing to recall with 200 AM if you're about to be occupied for the next 30 minutes and won't be able to recall. Does it take effort yes, but the same is true at any point in a Voyage. Say you use your token at 9.5 hours, well what are you going to do at 11.5 hours when the same thing happens again? At some point you need to recall that Voyage. As long as you're on top of it you can remember to recall.
Yes, you may forget once in a while. Maybe the Voyage was garbage and you just let it fail. Maybe it has a crew you need and you use a token. Well that only delays you one week. As long as you're not extending all the time you'll be fine. But it's certainly possible to save your tokens to make a long Voyage if you plan accordingly.
Preach, brother. The biggest drain on my voyage token stockpile is when I clear the 8-hour dilemma shortly before bedtime and say, “but of course I will remember to recall before going to sleep” and then not do that. Waking up the next morning, ready to collect goodies and send a new voyage, and finding out it petered out at 9:12 isn’t the greatest feeling in the world....I sometimes express these feelings of disappointment by reviving, clearing the 10-hour dilemma, and then missing my timer again - the lesson finally sinks in after clearing the 12-hour dilemma.
Happened to me the other day. I kept forgetting when it crashed at 9:46, then I think 11:53, and 13:57. I didn’t mind forgetting cuz I kept telling myself I’ll get two dilemmas out of a refresh then when that didn’t happen I recalled like seconds before 16 hours.
UntilI get the first two parts of Worf's path with double-digit tokens in store or have a desire to go for 10 at a time when I can babysit the voyage, it'll just be 8 and back for me. A steady daily supply of chrons and honor is nothing to ignore.
it would be pretty pretty great to have a starbase room where we can build voyage tokens, kinda like the replicator rations but actually useful, wouldn't it?
I never enter gray area. I know the estimate for my voyages, and recall after 8h regardless if it may go 9h30m. It is very rare anymore to see voyages dropping SR between dilemmas so the risk isnt worth the reward. Save those tokens for that special voyage where they do drop, then extend as long as you like.
Whatever works for you but for me I enjoy the chase. I enjoy working to get my voyages stronger and stronger and for them to go further and further. Seeing if I can squeak out a little further and refining my methods. I get great enjoyment from it and it gives me personal goals that I can work towards and achieve. Something to do when you can do well in events and are looking for another challenge. Trying to get 10hrs in every skill combo and adding stars to my legendaries to make it happen.
I could not have said it better myself. It’s a great gauge of overall crew strength and a good indicator of where your weaknesses are
This should be it's own thread entitled "How to play the long game." Lol. Good info.
First Picard I got from an almost max dilemma voyage.
Second Picard I think I got at 10 hours. If I recall correctly I came up short of 10 hours and used a token to extend it since it would've gotten me 2 more dilemma's. Parts 1&2 were my first two dilemmas.
Third Picard was from an aborted max dilemma voyage. Again I got Parts 1&2 on my first two dilemmas. I got part 3 after about 24hrs give or take a dilemma. I decided to cut this Voyage short since I'd only used 5 or 6 tokens.
Fourth Picard was from 1st,2nd and 4th dilemma's. Straight up luck there.
I'm currently waiting for an appropriate Voyage to come along to try another max dilemma Voyage. I have the tokens and just waiting for a strong 2950 AM voyage combo. I rarely use the tokens otherwise. The honour can be hard to give up but I only extend if I'll lose something I need.
Then I can start extending again.