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  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    As long as we’re being picky about mission text:

    bcnjq9qe64la.jpeg

    Not that there’s been a lot of research on its effects, but it would be highly doubtful that cobalt (I) selenide would ever be a “condiment” for humans based on the chemistry of cobalt and selenium compounds. DS9’s writers really dropped the ball on that one...

    Cobalt Diselenide is my second favorite Chicken McNuggets dipping sauce, between Tangy BBQ and Sweet and Sour.

    Have you tried mixing in a little peanut butter? {Barring an allergy?} Really makes the Cobalt pop!!!!!
    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
  • Travis S McClainTravis S McClain ✭✭✭✭✭
    As long as we’re being picky about mission text:

    bcnjq9qe64la.jpeg

    Not that there’s been a lot of research on its effects, but it would be highly doubtful that cobalt (I) selenide would ever be a “condiment” for humans based on the chemistry of cobalt and selenium compounds. DS9’s writers really dropped the ball on that one...

    Cobalt Diselenide is my second favorite Chicken McNuggets dipping sauce, between Tangy BBQ and Sweet and Sour.

    Have you tried mixing in a little peanut butter? {Barring an allergy?} Really makes the Cobalt pop!!!!!

    For Chicken McNuggets? That's absurd.

    For tribbles, however, it's fantastic!
  • robownagerobownage ✭✭✭✭✭
    As long as we’re being picky about mission text:

    bcnjq9qe64la.jpeg

    Not that there’s been a lot of research on its effects, but it would be highly doubtful that cobalt (I) selenide would ever be a “condiment” for humans based on the chemistry of cobalt and selenium compounds. DS9’s writers really dropped the ball on that one...

    Cobalt Diselenide is my second favorite Chicken McNuggets dipping sauce, between Tangy BBQ and Sweet and Sour.

    Have you tried mixing in a little peanut butter? {Barring an allergy?} Really makes the Cobalt pop!!!!!

    For Chicken McNuggets? That's absurd.

    For tribbles, however, it's fantastic!

    Okay, but can we take a moment to appreciate the brilliance that was "The Trouble With Edward." H Jon Benjamin and Rosa Salazar were fantastic, the writing was crisp and witty, and even though I never thought I wanted a tribble origin story, now I can't imagine never having gotten it. I've watched it three times already and, there's a good chance this is due to recency bias, this might be my favorite comedic entry in the Star Trek canon.
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    robownage wrote: »
    As long as we’re being picky about mission text:

    bcnjq9qe64la.jpeg

    Not that there’s been a lot of research on its effects, but it would be highly doubtful that cobalt (I) selenide would ever be a “condiment” for humans based on the chemistry of cobalt and selenium compounds. DS9’s writers really dropped the ball on that one...

    Cobalt Diselenide is my second favorite Chicken McNuggets dipping sauce, between Tangy BBQ and Sweet and Sour.

    Have you tried mixing in a little peanut butter? {Barring an allergy?} Really makes the Cobalt pop!!!!!

    For Chicken McNuggets? That's absurd.

    For tribbles, however, it's fantastic!

    Okay, but can we take a moment to appreciate the brilliance that was "The Trouble With Edward." H Jon Benjamin and Rosa Salazar were fantastic, the writing was crisp and witty, and even though I never thought I wanted a tribble origin story, now I can't imagine never having gotten it. I've watched it three times already and, there's a good chance this is due to recency bias, this might be my favorite comedic entry in the Star Trek canon.

    I've got to see these Short Treks!!!!!!

    Hopefully soon I will be able to.
    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
  • HaBlackHaBlack ✭✭✭✭✭
    robownage wrote: »
    As long as we’re being picky about mission text:

    bcnjq9qe64la.jpeg

    Not that there’s been a lot of research on its effects, but it would be highly doubtful that cobalt (I) selenide would ever be a “condiment” for humans based on the chemistry of cobalt and selenium compounds. DS9’s writers really dropped the ball on that one...

    Cobalt Diselenide is my second favorite Chicken McNuggets dipping sauce, between Tangy BBQ and Sweet and Sour.

    Have you tried mixing in a little peanut butter? {Barring an allergy?} Really makes the Cobalt pop!!!!!

    For Chicken McNuggets? That's absurd.

    For tribbles, however, it's fantastic!

    Okay, but can we take a moment to appreciate the brilliance that was "The Trouble With Edward." H Jon Benjamin and Rosa Salazar were fantastic, the writing was crisp and witty, and even though I never thought I wanted a tribble origin story, now I can't imagine never having gotten it. I've watched it three times already and, there's a good chance this is due to recency bias, this might be my favorite comedic entry in the Star Trek canon.

    I've got to see these Short Treks!!!!!!

    Hopefully soon I will be able to.

    Me too, they are not available on Netflix, and I don't have CBS
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  • GhostStalkerGhostStalker ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2019
    robownage wrote: »
    As long as we’re being picky about mission text:

    bcnjq9qe64la.jpeg

    Not that there’s been a lot of research on its effects, but it would be highly doubtful that cobalt (I) selenide would ever be a “condiment” for humans based on the chemistry of cobalt and selenium compounds. DS9’s writers really dropped the ball on that one...

    Cobalt Diselenide is my second favorite Chicken McNuggets dipping sauce, between Tangy BBQ and Sweet and Sour.

    Have you tried mixing in a little peanut butter? {Barring an allergy?} Really makes the Cobalt pop!!!!!

    For Chicken McNuggets? That's absurd.

    For tribbles, however, it's fantastic!

    Okay, but can we take a moment to appreciate the brilliance that was "The Trouble With Edward." H Jon Benjamin and Rosa Salazar were fantastic, the writing was crisp and witty, and even though I never thought I wanted a tribble origin story, now I can't imagine never having gotten it. I've watched it three times already and, there's a good chance this is due to recency bias, this might be my favorite comedic entry in the Star Trek canon.
    I felt genuine anxiety watching that ship get overrun. A Starfleet ship full of scientists and no one thought to put all the crew in EV suits and vent the tribbles into space? Or release a poison gas into the air? Ugh! Were they afraid to kill the things? I just feel like MAYBE she wasn't that great at command, if she let her ship go down instead of using lethal force, even as a last resort? (EDIT: Yes, I realize it was comedy. Don't @ me.) Excellent cinema quality Short Trek though!

    Meanwhile... did you guys see the commercial for tribbles cereal after the credits! HAHA!
  • AviTrek wrote: »
    Shan wrote: »
    That is actually an error on our end. The text for that mission should not have said that.
    Nothing has changed regarding adding crew from the 3 movies from what is commonly referred to as the Kelvinverse/Kelvin timeline/JJverse and whatnot. :)
    Prediction: DB knows the script for the upcoming Short Treks, including the Picard prequel.
    That prequel will reference Nero and Spock, thereby introducing Nero to DB's existing license.
    Their mistake was leaking the information early, not introducing a character from the JJ movies.

    Well, while I wouldn't put it past them to do that in the Picard series, it would officially violate the laws of the way time travel works in Star Trek. In the entirety of modern Trek, time travel would result in changes to the existing timeline. Data's head in TNG, Sisko being Gabriel Bell in DS9, Braxton in Voyager. Just a few small examples of the many that exist. And please, don't tell me there are different "types" of time travel. If you travel from the future to the past, manipulate an event, and the changes exist in your timeline, then that's just the way it is. The notion that an alternate universe, the "Kelvinverse," would be created from one such time travel event violates their own in-universe rules they've set up.

    Granted, no one probably cares about any of this except me.

    How do you deal with 'Parallels' then? Effectively a meeting of parallel universes where the timelines have followed close paths, but something has changed the course of each universe. Maybe due to time travel splitting one original universe into two, then further temporal incursions creating further splits?

    Enables anything and everything to happen, or not!
  • GhostStalkerGhostStalker ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2019
    Vid wrote: »
    AviTrek wrote: »
    Shan wrote: »
    That is actually an error on our end. The text for that mission should not have said that.
    Nothing has changed regarding adding crew from the 3 movies from what is commonly referred to as the Kelvinverse/Kelvin timeline/JJverse and whatnot. :)
    Prediction: DB knows the script for the upcoming Short Treks, including the Picard prequel.
    That prequel will reference Nero and Spock, thereby introducing Nero to DB's existing license.
    Their mistake was leaking the information early, not introducing a character from the JJ movies.

    Well, while I wouldn't put it past them to do that in the Picard series, it would officially violate the laws of the way time travel works in Star Trek. In the entirety of modern Trek, time travel would result in changes to the existing timeline. Data's head in TNG, Sisko being Gabriel Bell in DS9, Braxton in Voyager. Just a few small examples of the many that exist. And please, don't tell me there are different "types" of time travel. If you travel from the future to the past, manipulate an event, and the changes exist in your timeline, then that's just the way it is. The notion that an alternate universe, the "Kelvinverse," would be created from one such time travel event violates their own in-universe rules they've set up.

    Granted, no one probably cares about any of this except me.

    How do you deal with 'Parallels' then? Effectively a meeting of parallel universes where the timelines have followed close paths, but something has changed the course of each universe. Maybe due to time travel splitting one original universe into two, then further temporal incursions creating further splits?

    Enables anything and everything to happen, or not!

    Ah, my friend, thank you for allowing further conversation on this!

    The issue here is that you've brought up an entirely different "fictional" concept. Parallel dimensions (where events played out differently) are another scientific theory in which the timeline of that dimension unfolded differently to your own. Therefore, while in one you may be the winner of first place in the bat'leth tournament of Forcas III, in another you may have scrubbed out early on. While we could have fun with this one all day, it's not what I'm talking about. However, I still find it funny that the writers of that episode decided to avoid any traces of "Terran Empire" signage in the various universes Worf visited. They sort of confined his visits to "places that would have branched off after the Enterprise-D crew got together." ;)

    In our situation, we're dealing with TIME TRAVEL, not dimension hopping. Time travel involves traveling back from one point in your timeline to an earlier one, sometimes modifying events. You're not simply hopping from one timeline to another, you're actively moving "sideways' on your own. Now, here's where it gets messy. Obviously, time travel is still a fictional concept, so there's no "correct" way to do it. Different fiction has done it different ways:
    • In some, the past is fixed and you simply cannot change it, no matter what you do.
    • In others, any changes you make DO NOT change your own present, because it was "always" that way.
    • Still others create, yes, alternate PARALLEL timelines branching off from your own.
    • And finally, you have the one Star Trek has chosen to use for decades: Changes you make in the past cause you to return to a future that is now slightly different.

    Sidebar: You know, if you really wanted to explain Spock and Nero, you could probably handwave it away to say their "black hole device" was a wormhole with a time and dimension component, but they chose not to. Oh, coincidentally, by the logic of THAT movie, Spock would have ended up in an entirely different dimension's past than Nero, seeing as how he arrived 20 years later. They probably never would have met again. Which is why the multiple timelines theory of time travel doesn't work when your story needs to persist across more than one "event." :)

    In any case, the TL;DR of my post is this:
    Alternate realities and time travel are two separate concepts. In your example, Worf did not engage in time travel, merely dimension hopping. Alternatively, in the other examples I cited, there was no dimension hopping, simply time travel. And by Star Trek's own precedent, time travel within their dimension causes changes to occur on their existing timeline.

  • Ah, my friend, thank you for allowing further conversation on this!

    The issue here is that you've brought up an entirely different "fictional" concept.

    I could write so much, but to keep things simple, if you accept that there may be a doorway into an alternative dimension/ reality and another to a different time period, then why not another that does both at the same time? Maybe just rarer :wink:
  • GhostStalkerGhostStalker ✭✭✭✭✭
    Vid wrote: »

    Ah, my friend, thank you for allowing further conversation on this!

    The issue here is that you've brought up an entirely different "fictional" concept.

    I could write so much, but to keep things simple, if you accept that there may be a doorway into an alternative dimension/ reality and another to a different time period, then why not another that does both at the same time? Maybe just rarer :wink:

    Well, it's fiction, it can be whatever you want. It just has to make sense within the framework it creates, and stay consistent to its own rules. Which was my entire point.
  • While I do not necessarily like the Kelvin Timeline, I did enjoy the movies. If such characters were ever introduced, I would personally be fine with it; and I think coping skills would probably kick in for others. 😉
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