Pack only or do the achievements wait til the dabo reset?
From the announcement:
Please note that, if you were already logged in today prior to the achievements going live, you will not see them until the next daily reset. You will however have plenty of time to complete these achievements!
The Homesteader Janeway temporary achievements consist in completing:
- 25 Dilemmas
- 125 Gauntlets rounds
- 200 Shuttle missions
I wish they’d figure out how to make these things go live for everyone at the same time. It’s always a disappointment having to wait an extra day just because you were already logged in.
So Janeway is pretty solid, and fits in right behind Van Gogh on Voyage rankings. She has the best Voyage total of any Janeway, the only one to feature MED, and one of two with a SCI primary (Assimilated Janeway, who she barely edges out):
Someone mentioned Q as God and Soji Asha because of the similar skillset. Looks like Janeway just edges out Q, but Soji probably has her beat. This is where they fit in:
That was why I closed out and waited to load the game. Still didn't give me the options.
Daily reset occurs at 5:00 UTC.
Dabo is on a different reset.
Shan,
If we are in the group that won't see the achievements until 1AM eastern at server reset, will activity now count toward them, or will it only be counted once they are visible.
That was why I closed out and waited to load the game. Still didn't give me the options.
Daily reset occurs at 5:00 UTC.
Dabo is on a different reset.
You should really look into making them live for everyone at the same time, like you do with events.
It is different from events, and not an easy task unfortunately.
We understand that it would be better if they would be visible for everyone at the same time.
That was why I closed out and waited to load the game. Still didn't give me the options.
Daily reset occurs at 5:00 UTC.
Dabo is on a different reset.
You should really look into making them live for everyone at the same time, like you do with events.
This. The Achievements will not take a month, but everyone should start on even footing. Just drop the Tuesday Pack like normal, but have the Achievements go live with the reset Tuesday night/ Wednesday morning...
That was why I closed out and waited to load the game. Still didn't give me the options.
Daily reset occurs at 5:00 UTC.
Dabo is on a different reset.
You should really look into making them live for everyone at the same time, like you do with events.
It is different from events, and not an easy task unfortunately.
We understand that it would be better if they would be visible for everyone at the same time.
"The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
That was why I closed out and waited to load the game. Still didn't give me the options.
Daily reset occurs at 5:00 UTC.
Dabo is on a different reset.
You should really look into making them live for everyone at the same time, like you do with events.
It is different from events, and not an easy task unfortunately.
We understand that it would be better if they would be visible for everyone at the same time.
If you release the server just before reset then most people will get it at reset. Sure there will be a couple that wait until just before reset, but they're then missing finishing the rest of the daily achievements.
The only downside is a release as staff wants to go to bed, but now you have an achievement theoretically showing up for people when staff are going to bed b anyway.
That was why I closed out and waited to load the game. Still didn't give me the options.
Daily reset occurs at 5:00 UTC.
Dabo is on a different reset.
You should really look into making them live for everyone at the same time, like you do with events.
This. The Achievements will not take a month, but everyone should start on even footing. Just drop the Tuesday Pack like normal, but have the Achievements go live with the reset Tuesday night/ Wednesday morning.
Yeah, this is what I was thinking too. Seems like it would be a fairer way to go about it if it’s possible.
Don’t get me wrong, I love it (and appreciate it) when they do stuff like this. I just think the rollout could use improvement in the future. If they can’t do it, it’s not the end of the world, it would just be nice if they could.
If we had a better option, we would have used it.
We'll see if we can improve this, but it is not a priority at this time.
There is enough bandwidth to complete these achievements even if you are not seeing them right when they go live.
If waiting a day to start working on these achievements means we get to see these more often in the future, that is a price I will happily pay. I'm not in a race with anybody.
If we had a better option, we would have used it.
We'll see if we can improve this, but it is not a priority at this time.
There is enough bandwidth to complete these achievements even if you are not seeing them right when they go live.
If waiting a day to start working on these achievements means we get to see these more often in the future, that is a price I will happily pay. I'm not in a race with anybody.
Agreed. I'm happy to offer suggestions for how they can tweak the roll out, but for a crew that's not bonus and is not drastically game breaking, a 13 hour difference is super minor.
Time needed for the achievements:
50+ hours for the dilemmas. Realistically 70+ hours if you don't use dil.
44+ hours for the gauntlet unless you use dil to refresh crew a lot.
150+ hours for shuttles unless you use tokens, dil, time reducers, or have shuttles cut down to 1 min length.
Waiting an extra 13 hours doesn't really matter for most people. The only people that should care about the time delay are the people who want to try for FTM.
On the topic of Janeway/Voyager, I would love a "Resolute Janeway" from the episode Resolutions. She would be a SCI/MED/DIP which would be completely unique for her character ( Sci Primary instead of tet and the only Janeway with a med score) as she is more of a scientist in this episode and she was trying to cure the disease that she and Chakotay had. But I'm not gonna lie, the biggest reason I want her is I also want the monkey somewhere on the art card so we could affectionately call her "Monkey Janeway". The monkey is important, don't forget the monkey.
I remember when I suggested her in the most wanted Crew Forum, Looks like I was right on the skill set, I am Just very sad there is no monkey, the monkey was important!
If we had a better option, we would have used it.
We'll see if we can improve this, but it is not a priority at this time.
There is enough bandwidth to complete these achievements even if you are not seeing them right when they go live.
If waiting a day to start working on these achievements means we get to see these more often in the future, that is a price I will happily pay. I'm not in a race with anybody.
Agreed. I'm happy to offer suggestions for how they can tweak the roll out, but for a crew that's not bonus and is not drastically game breaking, a 13 hour difference is super minor.
Time needed for the achievements:
50+ hours for the dilemmas. Realistically 70+ hours if you don't use dil.
44+ hours for the gauntlet unless you use dil to refresh crew a lot.
150+ hours for shuttles unless you use tokens, dil, time reducers, or have shuttles cut down to 1 min length.
Waiting an extra 13 hours doesn't really matter for most people. The only people that should care about the time delay are the people who want to try for FTM.
It feels like this is being blown a bit out of proportion.
If she were bonus crew for the upcoming event, and the upcoming event were Faction, I could see it mattering. But that's definitely not the case here. And lets be real: anyone going for FTM will be buying her from the pack, so the delay really doesn't matter.
0/7. Not unusual, just odd way of her rollout. Free 3/5 is free though. Surprised she wasn't the offer like McCoy was.
Yeah, that kind of puts me off a bit. Unique skill combos for bridge crew are a special thing, compared to Bones’ rather specific and limited use, but having to buy enough Tuesday packs to get two of her without using citations doesn’t sit right for me.
Instead, I put some dil towards one of the discount packs today and got enough Dress Uniform Bevs to eventually put her in the freezer.
If we had a better option, we would have used it.
We'll see if we can improve this, but it is not a priority at this time.
There is enough bandwidth to complete these achievements even if you are not seeing them right when they go live.
If waiting a day to start working on these achievements means we get to see these more often in the future, that is a price I will happily pay. I'm not in a race with anybody.
Agreed. I'm happy to offer suggestions for how they can tweak the roll out, but for a crew that's not bonus and is not drastically game breaking, a 13 hour difference is super minor.
Time needed for the achievements:
50+ hours for the dilemmas. Realistically 70+ hours if you don't use dil.
44+ hours for the gauntlet unless you use dil to refresh crew a lot.
150+ hours for shuttles unless you use tokens, dil, time reducers, or have shuttles cut down to 1 min length.
Waiting an extra 13 hours doesn't really matter for most people. The only people that should care about the time delay are the people who want to try for FTM.
Especially since Shan has confirmed that anything we do will count regardless of whether we see the achievement or not, it feels like this is being blown a bit out of proportion.
If she were bonus crew for the upcoming event, and the upcoming event were Faction, I could see it mattering. But that's definitely not the case here. And lets be real: anyone going for FTM will be buying her from the pack, so the delay really doesn't matter.
I looked again and don’t see that Shan said anything of the sort. Just that there was plenty of bandwidth (time) for everyone to complete the achievements, even if they can’t start today. I don’t think anyone has blown this out of proportion. Just that people would prefer that these things go live for everyone at the same time.
Especially since Shan has confirmed that anything we do will count regardless of whether we see the achievement or not, it feels like this is being blown a bit out of proportion.
I have never said that.
If you do not see the achievements now, do not invest in taking steps to advance in them, it will not count.
Especially since Shan has confirmed that anything we do will count regardless of whether we see the achievement or not, it feels like this is being blown a bit out of proportion.
I have never said that.
If you do not see the achievements now, do not invest in taking steps to advance in them, it will not count.
You are correct, and I apologize. I understood your comment about bandwidth to mean it would collect in the background. Now I'm guessing you meant that there's enough time. I apologize and am editing my original post to avoid misleading people.
So if we were logged in between the reset at midnight (For daily achievements) between the Dabo reset at noon, then we have to wait until the next day to see the temporary achievements? I’m confused on that. I definitely don’t see them right now
So if we were logged in between the reset at midnight (For daily achievements) between the Dabo reset at noon, then we have to wait until the next day to see the temporary achievements? I’m confused on that. I definitely don’t see them right now
The way I take it, is that if you log in now and don't see the temporary achievements, then you will not see them until reset at 1am EDT / 0500 UTC.
So if we were logged in between the reset at midnight (For daily achievements) between the Dabo reset at noon, then we have to wait until the next day to see the temporary achievements? I’m confused on that. I definitely don’t see them right now
Yes. Those of us who logged in during the night, will see the Achievements tonight at Reset. Still plenty of time to do them.
"The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
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- 25 Dilemmas
- 125 Gauntlets rounds
- 200 Shuttle missions
All easily doable in a month. I wish there were 4 achievements, but she still may be worth the 2 citations.
From the announcement:
Daily reset occurs at 5:00 UTC.
Dabo is on a different reset.
#63 Overall Voyager, #3 SCI/MED Voyager, #5 SCI/MED Shuttle, #7 SCI Base, #2 SCI/MED/DIP
Someone mentioned Q as God and Soji Asha because of the similar skillset. Looks like Janeway just edges out Q, but Soji probably has her beat. This is where they fit in:
Q: #65 Overall Voyager, #4 SCI/MED Voyager, #10 CMD/MED Shuttle, #8 DIP/MED Shuttle, #3 SCI/MED Shuttle, #3 MED Base, #1 MED/SCI/DIP
Soji: #27 Overall Voyager, #2 DIP/MED Voyager, #2 DIP/MED Shuttle, #7 MED Base, #1 MED/DIP/SCI
You should really look into making them live for everyone at the same time, like you do with events.
Shan,
If we are in the group that won't see the achievements until 1AM eastern at server reset, will activity now count toward them, or will it only be counted once they are visible.
It is different from events, and not an easy task unfortunately.
We understand that it would be better if they would be visible for everyone at the same time.
This. The Achievements will not take a month, but everyone should start on even footing. Just drop the Tuesday Pack like normal, but have the Achievements go live with the reset Tuesday night/ Wednesday morning...
Maybe the Coders could do it as above, Shan?
We'll see if we can improve this, but it is not a priority at this time.
There is enough bandwidth to complete these achievements even if you are not seeing them right when they go live.
If you release the server just before reset then most people will get it at reset. Sure there will be a couple that wait until just before reset, but they're then missing finishing the rest of the daily achievements.
The only downside is a release as staff wants to go to bed, but now you have an achievement theoretically showing up for people when staff are going to bed b anyway.
Yeah, this is what I was thinking too. Seems like it would be a fairer way to go about it if it’s possible.
Don’t get me wrong, I love it (and appreciate it) when they do stuff like this. I just think the rollout could use improvement in the future. If they can’t do it, it’s not the end of the world, it would just be nice if they could.
If waiting a day to start working on these achievements means we get to see these more often in the future, that is a price I will happily pay. I'm not in a race with anybody.
Agreed. I'm happy to offer suggestions for how they can tweak the roll out, but for a crew that's not bonus and is not drastically game breaking, a 13 hour difference is super minor.
Time needed for the achievements:
50+ hours for the dilemmas. Realistically 70+ hours if you don't use dil.
44+ hours for the gauntlet unless you use dil to refresh crew a lot.
150+ hours for shuttles unless you use tokens, dil, time reducers, or have shuttles cut down to 1 min length.
Waiting an extra 13 hours doesn't really matter for most people. The only people that should care about the time delay are the people who want to try for FTM.
I remember when I suggested her in the most wanted Crew Forum, Looks like I was right on the skill set, I am Just very sad there is no monkey, the monkey was important!
It feels like this is being blown a bit out of proportion.
If she were bonus crew for the upcoming event, and the upcoming event were Faction, I could see it mattering. But that's definitely not the case here. And lets be real: anyone going for FTM will be buying her from the pack, so the delay really doesn't matter.
edited due to misunderstanding
Yeah, that kind of puts me off a bit. Unique skill combos for bridge crew are a special thing, compared to Bones’ rather specific and limited use, but having to buy enough Tuesday packs to get two of her without using citations doesn’t sit right for me.
Instead, I put some dil towards one of the discount packs today and got enough Dress Uniform Bevs to eventually put her in the freezer.
I looked again and don’t see that Shan said anything of the sort. Just that there was plenty of bandwidth (time) for everyone to complete the achievements, even if they can’t start today. I don’t think anyone has blown this out of proportion. Just that people would prefer that these things go live for everyone at the same time.
I have never said that.
If you do not see the achievements now, do not invest in taking steps to advance in them, it will not count.
You are correct, and I apologize. I understood your comment about bandwidth to mean it would collect in the background. Now I'm guessing you meant that there's enough time. I apologize and am editing my original post to avoid misleading people.
The way I take it, is that if you log in now and don't see the temporary achievements, then you will not see them until reset at 1am EDT / 0500 UTC.
Yes. Those of us who logged in during the night, will see the Achievements tonight at Reset. Still plenty of time to do them.