Discovery S3 discussion (spoilers)
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Okay - let's talk about this! As a life-long Trekkie, I am anxious for all this new Star Trek stuff coming out! Lower Decks was amazing, and I don't like that genre animation style at all. Let'e do this...
It seems the writers are being very careful about potential lapses in continuity. We'll see if that holds, since they have mentioned the "Temporal War", and there are rumours of Picard tie-ins. (Those pesky androids could still be around after all!)
The Andorian... WTH? Okay, maybe he is a cross breed, and/or it has been 900+ years, so evolution, etc. I think they did a terrible job on that guy. ENT Shran was the best Andorian makeup so far IMO.
Side note: I noticed that the Orion girl trader "Hadley" is an actress that has played 3 or 4 other roles on Disco so far. The naming of this character must be a homage to Billy Blackburn who played Helmsman "Hadley" on TOS, as well as probably a dozen other characters in TOS.
Booke's ship was pretty cool. I like the weird tactile matter conversion control system. Very interesting.
Who else thinks the Worm-thing looked quite a bit like the alien creature in Stephen King's "Dreamcatcher"?
Overall, the first episode sets up the season very well. If you remember Burnham's speech at then end of S1, you know she is a proud Federation/Starfleet lifer, and all her thoughts and actions in this episode mirror that.
I definitely liked that Booke wasn't just a merchant or gun-for-hire. He has depth and will prove interesting to the story. I think Burnham is softening him up a bit, because he has been jaded for so long not trusting many people.
The speech of "Starfleet" representative Sahil at the end tugged at the heart strings. Production on this season is taking the core of Star Trek to heart so far.
We have a long way to go, and I am still processing after watching this episode twice.
It seems the writers are being very careful about potential lapses in continuity. We'll see if that holds, since they have mentioned the "Temporal War", and there are rumours of Picard tie-ins. (Those pesky androids could still be around after all!)
The Andorian... WTH? Okay, maybe he is a cross breed, and/or it has been 900+ years, so evolution, etc. I think they did a terrible job on that guy. ENT Shran was the best Andorian makeup so far IMO.
Side note: I noticed that the Orion girl trader "Hadley" is an actress that has played 3 or 4 other roles on Disco so far. The naming of this character must be a homage to Billy Blackburn who played Helmsman "Hadley" on TOS, as well as probably a dozen other characters in TOS.
Booke's ship was pretty cool. I like the weird tactile matter conversion control system. Very interesting.
Who else thinks the Worm-thing looked quite a bit like the alien creature in Stephen King's "Dreamcatcher"?
Overall, the first episode sets up the season very well. If you remember Burnham's speech at then end of S1, you know she is a proud Federation/Starfleet lifer, and all her thoughts and actions in this episode mirror that.
I definitely liked that Booke wasn't just a merchant or gun-for-hire. He has depth and will prove interesting to the story. I think Burnham is softening him up a bit, because he has been jaded for so long not trusting many people.
The speech of "Starfleet" representative Sahil at the end tugged at the heart strings. Production on this season is taking the core of Star Trek to heart so far.
We have a long way to go, and I am still processing after watching this episode twice.
I want to become a Dilionaire...
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Do we know if the Federation flag is akin to the EU flag, where the stars are just decoration and do not represent anything.
Or is the Federation flag akin to the US flag where the stars represent individual states/ member planets?
If so
Earth, Vulcan, Q'onos...
I think Strange New Worlds is supposed to be a little (hopefully a lot) like that.
Burnham shouldn't know about the Gorn, since they weren't introduced (in the Prime universe) until Kirk & crew discovered them decades later.
I think Ep 3 should have aired right after Ep1, but I get the need to keep the audiences "engaged".
I am rewatching Ep1 to find the Andromeda reference, and to watch Ep3 right after for personal continuity.
Then we had the season 2 ending. Ok, that was an odd way to explain away Discovery in the early years, but it might work..
But now, I've been impressed with Discovery so far since season 3 began. It feels like a breath of fresh air. They've given the ship and crew a chance to explore new life and new civilizations. Albeit, familiar life, but at least in 3188 they could truly be new civilizations. The only thing that I'm having a hard time with so far is "The Burn". I don't know how they're going to explain this phenomenon. It'll need to be good, because how can something affect everything in the galaxy all at the same time?
On the flip side though, it feels like the crew are really fitting into their characters now. I'm liking the refined Saru and Tilly! And Reno just cracks me up!
I think Booke will be a good addition to the crew also.
I look forward to seeing how this unfolds. I think it was very good giving them a new millennium to work within. And in episode 3 I liked their first step towards rebuilding what the Federation stood for. Negotiating peace between two factions was a good move!
It could be just a "The who now?" on Burnham's part precisely because she never heard of the Gorn. Not necessarily a discontinuity.
I also really like the season so far. But it seems they are setting out to "rectify" whatever lead to the burn. As dystopian as this future seems it would be a shame to have all of this be a long unreal nightmare in the end.
Ok, production still has some Star Wars people in it. We actually visited a Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy! Complete with a Smuggler with a Heart of Gold and his giant, furry friend. Still HanchesterSoloBlack is a pretty cool guy and he's pretty good in a gun fight.
Ok, a proper Trek show would've had our Intrepid Starfleet Officer talk her way out of trouble but at least we get a thin glimmer of hope for a brighter future.
Episode two was also pretty cool. Jett has really mean to Stamets. Its what we all wanted. Stamets included.
first: even if they shine blue in the future,i dont like windows in the bridge...
I just can't get there
but anyway,short after we saw the voyager-j (with a nice little sound-homage),right at 5min28sec just press pause and read the name of the ship on the left...
*goose bumps*
EDIT: i know this one is in every forum like one minute after the episode went live,but i dont read like news,they often have the spoilers right in the headline,and i really like to find out "easter eggs" myself. after 5years idc anymore and read about them,but this one i just found out and feel like christmas as a 5year old child:D
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For me it was the weakest episode so far. Didn t get me.
And the old man and secret door storyline was just redicilious.
It was the Mirror stuff for me, and i’ve seen some speculation that he is a Q... not sure about that one but who knows. I’m looking forward to them explaining it. It was also a very Georgiou heavy episode, she technically isn’t main cast so maybe that wasn’t a highlight for you but she’s one of my favorites on the show (if not my #1 favorite)
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Afterwards I couldn't help but think that the CSI theme song, "Who Are You?" was very fitting!
Haha! Or - dare I say it - "Q are you???"
We shall C(arl)!
Nice to see Landry again.
Didn't Mirror Staments survive originally? I'm sure we saw him in season one.
I’m crossing my fingers for a surprise Lorca visit in part 2
Yes he did, but I think the whole premise is for Georgiou to rewrite her past......so who knows lol
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Never saw that coming. Though after the reveal it only makes total sense. I also love that Wil Weaton went total geeked out fanboy like I did when he saw THE GUARDIAN OF FOREVER!
Okay WRG writers... you have some pretty juicy tidbits from this past couple weeks Disco to work with, for future events and episodes. Let's get on it!
Yes please!
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That's the actor that played Airiam in season one. That is not Airiam in this episode. Airiam in this episode is played by the actor that played Airiam in season 2, she appears on the bridge. Does that make sense?
BEHOLD!
Yes it does! In the picture it’s Mirror Culber and Nilsson
Here’s Ariam sitting beside Killy....
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One tiny, minor hitch for me: Discovery got new combadge/tricorder/transporter/holo-PADDs for everyone but they’re stuck in the same uniforms? I know past shows have been somewhat loose in terms of uniform selection (as evidenced by the number of r/DaystromInstitute posts on the subject) but I can’t think of a really solid in-universe reason why the crew wouldn’t get new uniforms as well as all of the other upgrades. If I’m Admiral Vance, I would be trying to integrate the Discovery crew as much as possible with the rest of Starfleet (while keeping them physically stationed on the same vessel for various reasons), and matching uniforms would be a simple way to do exactly that.
If I am Admiral Vance, I would probably also assign some extra crew to help keep Discovery properly staffed (80-90 crew is apparently only about half of the maximum crew complement), to aid in the maintenance and repair of the various systems added during the refit, and to get practical experience with spore drive operations.