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  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thurthorad wrote: »
    I can't be the only one who thinks that ultimately it is DBs fault.

    Obviously you're not the only one.


    Doesn't make any of you correct.

    People who just ASSUMED that EVERY Picard was going to be Bonus because the Mega Event Reward is a new Picard, instead of being patient, made their choice. Sorry they were wrong. But they were.


    Scott


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  • I did use the opportunity to take my languishing C.O.P Founder Picard from 90 to 99, but before starting to level any more Picards (Dixon Hill) I waited until the official announcement. Now I'm working on my Mirror Sato.
  • IvanstoneIvanstone ✭✭✭✭✭
    People instead of pulling out the pitchforks can just go pre-farm the materials for your Picards. The game doesn't make you level your characters. Your boredom and/or OCD makes you level your characters.

    Every time DB inserts a pre-existing character into an event, I wait till Wednesday to see if its ranked or threshold. If its ranked, I use the materials that I have on hand to level it on Wednesday. Since I know what the characters are already, I can start pre-farming materials on the Friday they are announced. Patience is the most precious commodity in this game.
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  • Hey hey, now wait a minute here! Certain people needed at least 1 year notice in order to get a jump start on leveling their characters. It's not like everyone was informed at the same time and the playing field is as level as it can be or anything.

    Oh wait, it is? Never mind.

    Sarcasm aside, I think that DB has been doing so much better recently and see it as unwarranted to attack them for this reason. They let us know that the previous event notice was not sustainable for them and that's the end of that. I'd rather have accurate information a little later than having inaccurate information earlier and I have a feeling most people do as well.
  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2017
    Here's really the rub. Is Mirror Picard event crew? And apparently he is NOT, but is treated so for bonus standpoint. That is a big distinction as Shan stated at the bottom of the first page:

    https://forum.disruptorbeam.com/stt/discussion/1038/changes-to-schedule-for-releasing-event-information/p1

    "There is no change to variants, and how they would provide a bonus for the event.
    Where it is sometimes more tricky is when non variants are added, to give more choices to players."

    What was unclear and should be communicated better next time, is that the Mega Event featured character should NOT be considered an Event Character. I find it unsurprising but I can also understand it being confusing. I think lambasting someone for assuming that the above quote applied to the Mega Event featured character to be misplaced aggression. I also find that folks who have gotten big time upset, though I understand their confusion, also am finding that they need to chill some.

    Constructively, I think, DB needs to be clearer about how MegaEvent characters are treated, and if that is the standard for their variants to not be considered bonus unless otherwise stated at the beginning of a Mega.

    (For transparency sake, I've been leveling Mirror characters, as I had a gut feeling on the Picards. So I guess my spore/midichlorians were high that day.)
  • WaldoMagWaldoMag ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2017
    I will add a comment that everyone seems to have missed. Shan announced that DB would change the announcement of the release of information for events. It will be at noon ET Tuesday before event when we are notified about the other crew that get bonus.

    How is them surprising people and releasing event info early, going to change the people on the forum from waiting until noon ET Tuesday to go read the info.

    It is not a early release of info. When the plan is to release info at a set time.
    Early release would have been an in game message telling us who the bonus crew for event would be before Tuesday noon ET
  • Neems wrote: »
    I've mostly just been focusing on Mirrors, as I had a ton of those sitting at low levels in 1/5*, 2/4* and 3/4*.

    Exactly what my strategy is/was this week. Level up the sure things, then wait for the announcement to do the rest. My Mirror Empress Sato should be at 100 FF by tonight.
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  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    WaldoMag wrote: »
    I will add a comment that everyone seems to have missed. Shan announced that DB would change the announcement of the release of information for events. It will be at noon ET Tuesday before event when we are notified about the other crew that get bonus.

    How is them surprising people and releasing event info early, going to change the people on the forum from waiting until noon ET Tuesday to go read the info.

    It is not a early release of info. When the plan is to release info at a set time.
    Early release would have been an in game message telling us who the bonus crew for event would be before Tuesday noon ET

    What you say makes sense, with the exception of what I quoted above. \
    Shan stated that variants will always be bonus, so all Daxes this time.
    However, Picard isn't considered event crew, but gets bonuses as if he did, which can be confusing unless stated more concisely when event crew is stated on Fridays.
  • Since the only Picard I have is a 2* I did not. Since we knew that this was going to use mirror universe crew I focused on my 13 mirror crew. Been replicating and sending out shuttles for Terran Empire insignia and poisoned drinks since the end of the event on Monday. Nine are now FE with three to go.
  • Since the only Picard I have is a 2* I did not. Since we knew that this was going to use mirror universe crew I focused on my 13 mirror crew. Been replicating and sending out shuttles for Terran Empire insignia and poisoned drinks since the end of the event on Monday. Nine are now FE with three to go.

    You've had nice luck! I've been doing the same and had 1 1* Terran Knife and 1 Poisoned Drink.
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  • WaldoMagWaldoMag ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2017
    @Pallidyne
    You did not phrase your comment right. I said nothing about any specific crew.

    I will add my previous comment. There are no wasted resources, if your plan is to FE all crew. So one does it early. A galaxy event really is not gonna make much difference it is next weeks event, probably faction, where we want all event and bonus crew FE.

    All crew FE, my main account has 215 slots, I am down to 23 not FE. They are of course getting harder to FE, I am down to 6 superrare crew all the rest are legendary. Of course, this weekend I get two more. But I usually FE these by Saturday at the latest.

    Just to add Mirror crew are usually pretty easy to level. The main road block is Terran faction only items (Or cadet too) . So even my secondary account onl6 had two. On my second account I did Mirror Sato in prep for event. Then I made the mistake of picards but the road block of Federation items only allowed me to finish Galen. Tommy Gun and Ent-E got stuck at lev40. After Tues. noon I switched to Mirror Spock he is now Lev100 needing 2 legendary items. However, this is a mistake because my Jadzias will out perform in science. So he will be of use next week. My main concern will be leveling the community and the new Picard. Did I blow my chance on leveling them because of my mistakes. I seriously doubt it because of replicator and the double up offer.

    Just to add, my mistakes, there is no blame to DB. It was I who chose Galen it was I who chose Mirror Spock. Both of these were mistakes for this Galaxy event. They will both be of some use even if is just to cryo Galen. That is right my 2nd account has Galen FFFE were my main only has him 2FE.
  • Since the only Picard I have is a 2* I did not. Since we knew that this was going to use mirror universe crew I focused on my 13 mirror crew. Been replicating and sending out shuttles for Terran Empire insignia and poisoned drinks since the end of the event on Monday. Nine are now FE with three to go.

    You've had nice luck! I've been doing the same and had 1 1* Terran Knife and 1 Poisoned Drink.

    Not sure about luck when an easy 40% of my shuttles have failed with all being 85% or better. Where I have been lucky is with those that did not fail most have given me at least one item that I have needed. What is slowing me down now is the lack of credits. The cost of just building the equipment for 4* crew is expensive and I have eaten through 600,000 credits in the past two days. Replicating is not the reason for the loss of credits when all I am replicating are basic and 1* items that only cost 1500 and 3000 credits.
  • Since the only Picard I have is a 2* I did not. Since we knew that this was going to use mirror universe crew I focused on my 13 mirror crew. Been replicating and sending out shuttles for Terran Empire insignia and poisoned drinks since the end of the event on Monday. Nine are now FE with three to go.

    You've had nice luck! I've been doing the same and had 1 1* Terran Knife and 1 Poisoned Drink.

    Not sure about luck when an easy 40% of my shuttles have failed with all being 85% or better. Where I have been lucky is with those that did not fail most have given me at least one item that I have needed. What is slowing me down now is the lack of credits. The cost of just building the equipment for 4* crew is expensive and I have eaten through 600,000 credits in the past two days. Replicating is not the reason for the loss of credits when all I am replicating are basic and 1* items that only cost 1500 and 3000 credits.

    I feel ya! I've blown 900k, and am now so broke I can be seen on the DS9 promenade begging for latinum strips.
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  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    WaldoMag wrote: »
    @Pallidyne
    You did not phrase your comment right. I said nothing about any specific crew.

    I will add my previous comment. There are no wasted resources, if your plan is to FE all crew. So one does it early. A galaxy event really is not gonna make much difference it is next weeks event, probably faction, where we want all event and bonus crew FE.

    All crew FE, my main account has 215 slots, I am down to 23 not FE. They are of course getting harder to FE, I am down to 6 superrare crew all the rest are legendary. Of course, this weekend I get two more. But I usually FE these by Saturday at the latest.

    Just to add Mirror crew are usually pretty easy to level. The main road block is Terran faction only items (Or cadet too) . So even my secondary account onl6 had two. On my second account I did Mirror Sato in prep for event. Then I made the mistake of picards but the road block of Federation items only allowed me to finish Galen. Tommy Gun and Ent-E got stuck at lev40. After Tues. noon I switched to Mirror Spock he is now Lev100 needing 2 legendary items. However, this is a mistake because my Jadzias will out perform in science. So he will be of use next week. My main concern will be leveling the community and the new Picard. Did I blow my chance on leveling them because of my mistakes. I seriously doubt it because of replicator and the double up offer.

    Just to add, my mistakes, there is no blame to DB. It was I who chose Galen it was I who chose Mirror Spock. Both of these were mistakes for this Galaxy event. They will both be of some use even if is just to cryo Galen. That is right my 2nd account has Galen FFFE were my main only has him 2FE.

    Not sure how I phrased my comment wrong.

    On Friday we get event crew. Event crew variants are always bonus according to Shan. It was not clear to some folks that Picard was Mega Crew but NOT Event Crew.

    So the Tuesday announcement on Picard was a surprise to some, as some folks did not understand, nor was it fully explained, the distinction on who was and was not actual event crew on Friday.

    So really, the Friday announcement needed more detail.

    Now on the Mirror side, if this had fallen the other direction, say Mirror folks didn't get bonuses, then I'd say completely shame on anyone who jumped the gun, as that was an assumption that was not something you could totally count on.

  • I was just happy to finally have half a reason to level any of my ff 4* Picards... Knew not to take any out of the freezer till the final announcement though!
  • DralixDralix ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pallidyne wrote: »
    Now on the Mirror side, if this had fallen the other direction, say Mirror folks didn't get bonuses, then I'd say completely shame on anyone who jumped the gun, as that was an assumption that was not something you could totally count on.

    If it was a normal event, I'd agree. But for a mega event, we have ample precedent that all Mirror crew should have given a bonus.

  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dralix wrote: »
    Pallidyne wrote: »
    Now on the Mirror side, if this had fallen the other direction, say Mirror folks didn't get bonuses, then I'd say completely shame on anyone who jumped the gun, as that was an assumption that was not something you could totally count on.

    If it was a normal event, I'd agree. But for a mega event, we have ample precedent that all Mirror crew should have given a bonus.

    For this Event, all Mirror Crew getting the Bonus was much more likely than all Picards getting the Bonus. Just saying.



    Scott


    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
  • I didn't level any picard and glad i dont have to take him out of freezer
  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dralix wrote: »
    Pallidyne wrote: »
    Now on the Mirror side, if this had fallen the other direction, say Mirror folks didn't get bonuses, then I'd say completely shame on anyone who jumped the gun, as that was an assumption that was not something you could totally count on.

    If it was a normal event, I'd agree. But for a mega event, we have ample precedent that all Mirror crew should have given a bonus.

    For this Event, all Mirror Crew getting the Bonus was much more likely than all Picards getting the Bonus. Just saying.



    Scott


    But neither was guaranteed, by the folks defending DBs actions here.. and all from a certain point of view.

    By all rights, based on DB past statements both should be, but that would be ridiculous.

    And only now do we know that megas are different than normal ones in this respect.
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pallidyne wrote: »
    Dralix wrote: »
    Pallidyne wrote: »
    Now on the Mirror side, if this had fallen the other direction, say Mirror folks didn't get bonuses, then I'd say completely shame on anyone who jumped the gun, as that was an assumption that was not something you could totally count on.

    If it was a normal event, I'd agree. But for a mega event, we have ample precedent that all Mirror crew should have given a bonus.

    For this Event, all Mirror Crew getting the Bonus was much more likely than all Picards getting the Bonus. Just saying.



    Scott


    But neither was guaranteed, by the folks defending DBs actions here.. and all from a certain point of view.

    By all rights, based on DB past statements both should be, but that would be ridiculous.

    And only now do we know that megas are different than normal ones in this respect.

    Bottom line:


    People assumed that because the recurring character {for the first time} had other versions, that all Picards would be used for the "Secondary Bonus".

    People are also throwing a fit because they did not wait until they knew for sure. That was a personal choice. Since the new format of Event Notes, they have been announcing Bonus Crew on Tuesday. Shan even posted the Bonus Crew a day early and people are still sounding like five year olds fussing because Daddy will not fetch them the Moon.......\



    Scott

    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
  • DralixDralix ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pallidyne wrote: »
    But neither was guaranteed, by the folks defending DBs actions here

    I'm not sure that "defending DB's actions" is the right characterization. In my case, I'm not defending their decision to not release bonus crew until Tuesday. But I accept it as reality, and as such if I make an assumption that proves to be incorrect I'll own it.

    So yeah, I disagree that it's DB's fault that OP leveled Picards without reason to.
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