I think I was really focused on Kirk because of course, it's Kirk. Stats wise he's a slight improvement over Necheyav, but not as good in gauntlet. The Traveler will be more beneficial with ENG, but Kirk... Thanks for the advice. For a moment I did wonder about Hollander for the collections, but yeah...he's pretty lackluster overall. On a side note, why don't we have a Kirk with a value equal to M.Picard/Locutus? There would be no Picard (or anyone else) without Kirk.
I think I was really focused on Kirk because of course, it's Kirk. Stats wise he's a slight improvement over Necheyav, but not as good in gauntlet. The Traveler will be more beneficial with ENG, but Kirk... Thanks for the advice. For a moment I did wonder about Hollander for the collections, but yeah...he's pretty lackluster overall. On a side note, why don't we have a Kirk with a value equal to M.Picard/Locutus? There would be no Picard (or anyone else) without Kirk.
I think it's victim of circumstance Kirks have been added to the game earlier than these cards I think, as time goes on newer more powerful cards get added to shake things up, but hopefully there will be a new kirk around the corner.
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I think I was really focused on Kirk because of course, it's Kirk. Stats wise he's a slight improvement over Necheyav, but not as good in gauntlet. The Traveler will be more beneficial with ENG, but Kirk... Thanks for the advice. For a moment I did wonder about Hollander for the collections, but yeah...he's pretty lackluster overall. On a side note, why don't we have a Kirk with a value equal to M.Picard/Locutus? There would be no Picard (or anyone else) without Kirk.
For a long time, Mirror Kirk was the COM/SEC king of my crew but he’s since been eclipsed by Mirror Picard, T’Kuvma, and even Kortar to an extent...power creep is a *collapsed flan*, isn’t it?
Maybe we’ll get a good Kirk variant again soon that can keep up with the newer characters.
Behold Advice please, I've been playing about 3 weeks now. I can hit 3 hour voyages.
Berlinghoff Rasmussen, Doctor Chapel, Commando Shran.
I'm leaning toward Berlinghoff cause of the interesting base skill mix (DIP, SEC, SCI)
None are really killer, alas. If you need MED, Chapel has a 165-612 proficiency to add to her base stat, so even though she's only one skill, she could come in handy for you (and isn't bad in Gauntlet). Rasmussen is rated as "Difficult" to level, and if you've only been playing 3 weeks, then it's likely that would mean "super difficult" for you, so it may take you some time to level him up enough to make it worthwhile using him.
As far as possibly being helpful in future events, Rasmussen is a one-off, and has little possibility of being bonus crew in the future. Chapel and Shran at least had multiple appearances in ST, but they have both already been featured in events in the past 4 months or so.
I'd say go with the one you like the most.
Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing. ~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
Behold Advice please, I've been playing about 3 weeks now. I can hit 3 hour voyages.
Berlinghoff Rasmussen, Doctor Chapel, Commando Shran.
I'm leaning toward Berlinghoff cause of the interesting base skill mix (DIP, SEC, SCI)
None are really killer, alas. If you need MED, Chapel has a 165-612 proficiency to add to her base stat, so even though she's only one skill, she could come in handy for you (and isn't bad in Gauntlet). Rasmussen is rated as "Difficult" to level, and if you've only been playing 3 weeks, then it's likely that would mean "super difficult" for you, so it may take you some time to level him up enough to make it worthwhile using him.
As far as possibly being helpful in future events, Rasmussen is a one-off, and has little possibility of being bonus crew in the future. Chapel and Shran at least had multiple appearances in ST, but they have both already been featured in events in the past 4 months or so.
I'd say go with the one you like the most.
Thanks. They all looked mediocre. Chapel it is for more MED.
Honestly Chapel is useless. And require like half hundred medical experiments. Everything she can open node-wise can wait, she's bad for shuttles, she's NOT good for Gauntlet (only one skill) and she's bad at Voyages. Even med rarity do not make her worth leveling for newbie.
1/4 Shran is useful for Voyages for newbie and mostly need drops from Fed shuttles.
1/4 Rasmussen is also useful for Voyages, but leveling attention he requires is too big, it's better to level two other purples instead.
Comparing 1/4 level Chapel with 3/3 Selar shows that Selar is cheaper and provides nearly same stats. Other 3/3 Med are not that powerful but mostly even cheaper to level and have other advantages. Essentially instead of one 1/4 Chapel it's possible to level two 3/3 Meds, who are much easier to freeze if they'll become obsolete. While 1/4 Shran is not that easily replaceable by 3/3 as far as voyages are concerned (for Shuttles he is - at 1/4 or 3/3 level it's one skill that matters anyway).
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Well, Chapel can be good choice if blues with med just plain do not drop for some reason or at least if Selar doesn't.
For someone who's been playing awhile and has better MED, yes, Chapel is outclassed in Gauntlet… but for someone who started less than a month ago, Chapel is quite decent in Gauntlet. Now, after this weekend, if they're able to score a Mirror Phlox in this event, then he would of course take her place. I grant you that having one skill limits her in both Gauntlet and Voyages, but when you're just starting to put together a crew roster, I feel she could be quite useful, despite her single skill.
Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing. ~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
Comparing 1/4 level Chapel with 3/3 Selar shows that Selar is cheaper and provides nearly same stats. Other 3/3 Med are not that powerful but mostly even cheaper to level and have other advantages. Essentially instead of one 1/4 Chapel it's possible to level two 3/3 Meds, who are much easier to freeze if they'll become obsolete. While 1/4 Shran is not that easily replaceable by 3/3 as far as voyages are concerned (for Shuttles he is - at 1/4 or 3/3 level it's one skill that matters anyway).
I think comparing a 1/4 to a 3/3 is problematic, since (at least recently-released) crew are pretty comparable in stats when you do that. As I said, none of those three are particularly killer. And I wasn't necessarily advocating for one over another. But there are rares with the same 3 skills that Shran has, who compare decently, and certainly ones with a different combo of skills with CMD at the top who beat him. It's apples and oranges, I think. The difference is, down the line, there will always be the opportunity to add more stars to a 1/4.
Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing. ~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
but when you're just starting to put together a crew roster
When you starting to put together a crew roster 37!!! Basic Medical Experiments is something that you need like month to gather.
Well, Mirror Phlox is much worse in that department, but he's much more useful too.
Strangely, I had a rather massive stash of medical experiments until Victorian Pulaski. Not sure where it came from, but it got me through 3 Crushers, Cornwell, the rest of the 2* med crew, Rakal Troi, and several others.
Probably accumulated during my early days in the game, but I don’t recall sending out THAT many Augments shuttles.
But there are rares with the same 3 skills that Shran has, who compare decently, and certainly ones with a different combo of skills with CMD at the top who beat him. It's apples and oranges, I think.
Besides IIRC Shran and Talos Spock blues average around 1200 combined for Voyages. Shran and Rasmussen are 1500. And 300 point difference can be quite enough.
Strangely, I had a rather massive stash of medical experiments until Victorian Pulaski. Not sure where it came from, but it got me through 3 Crushers, Cornwell, the rest of the 2* med crew, Rakal Troi, and several others.
Probably accumulated during my early days in the game, but I don’t recall sending out THAT many Augments shuttles.
Well, there is guaranteed Community Threshold Phlox ahead and his 63!!! BME (note to self: start farming cadets for BME/Med Lessons again). And he's much more useful even at 1/4.
Also - you probably farmed A Question of Rights in ACF Elite. Because that's like best/second best drops there - and it provides Med Lessons.
But there are rares with the same 3 skills that Shran has, who compare decently, and certainly ones with a different combo of skills with CMD at the top who beat him. It's apples and oranges, I think.
Besides IIRC Shran and Talos Spock blues average around 1200 combined for Voyages. Shran and Rasmussen are 1500. And 300 point difference can be quite enough.
Strangely, I had a rather massive stash of medical experiments until Victorian Pulaski. Not sure where it came from, but it got me through 3 Crushers, Cornwell, the rest of the 2* med crew, Rakal Troi, and several others.
Probably accumulated during my early days in the game, but I don’t recall sending out THAT many Augments shuttles.
Well, there is guaranteed Community Threshold Phlox ahead and his 63!!! BME (note to self: start farming cadets for BME/Med Lessons again). And he's much more useful even at 1/4.
Also - you probably farmed A Question of Rights in ACF Elite. Because that's like best/second best drops there - and it provides Med Lessons.
I didn’t farm then, I was still trying to get them all to 3*s. Unless it actually took that many tries to get the rare rewards. (I believe I 3*’ed it back when a crit was not a guarantee of a rare reward.)
Also, um, community threshold Phlox? This is a full faction event, right?
I have been farming that mission, as well as similar missions for every other day, since this event was announced last week. I had something like 10 med experiments, and I’ve FE’d Phlox since the event pack went up on Wednesday... Knew he was an insane level, so I actually went to the Crew Cost finder (Thank you, izausome!), and started to farm all of his items in preparation for my event pack purchases.
Edit: Clarity in the first paragraph, the existence of the third paragraph, basically.
Edit edit: Misspelling. I am so disappointed in me.
But there are rares with the same 3 skills that Shran has, who compare decently, and certainly ones with a different combo of skills with CMD at the top who beat him. It's apples and oranges, I think.
Besides IIRC Shran and Talos Spock blues average around 1200 combined for Voyages. Shran and Rasmussen are 1500. And 300 point difference can be quite enough.
I'm not completely familiar with the formula for figuring average total skill #s, but just looking at one crew who has the same 3 skills as Commando Shran, The Viceroy is pretty close to 1500, isn't he?
(Though he was an absolute [rhymes-with-witch] to level.)
The difference is, down the line, there will always be the opportunity to add more stars to a 1/4.
Compensated by 3/3 being much MUCH more easily freezable.
True, but are we talking about freezability or playability here? I'd argue that the conversation is about who will make the best contribution as far as being more useful, not who has decent stats but can be frozen more easily.
In any case, I'm not really disagreeing with you — Shran would have been a fine choice, given their options in this particular instance.
Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing. ~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
Leaning towards Kurak, cause she's part of a collection. Paris would be nice for Gauntlet, but I'm going to take a spin at today's crew packs and hope I pull Ellen Landry.
Leaning towards Kurak, cause she's part of a collection. Paris would be nice for Gauntlet, but I'm going to take a spin at today's crew packs and hope I pull Ellen Landry.
I hear Paris is hard to level. I have none of those and can't give proper advice, but I would go for Uhura.
Leaning towards Kurak, cause she's part of a collection. Paris would be nice for Gauntlet, but I'm going to take a spin at today's crew packs and hope I pull Ellen Landry.
I hear Paris is hard to level. I have none of those and can't give proper advice, but I would go for Uhura.
CP Paris is indeed one of the toughest crew to level. Uhura is pretty useless, other than (like Paris) being main cast crew and having the likelihood of appearing in more events as bonus crew. But Kurak is the rare Klingon with SCI, so she's at least worthy for that reason.
Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing. ~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
Leaning towards Kurak, cause she's part of a collection. Paris would be nice for Gauntlet, but I'm going to take a spin at today's crew packs and hope I pull Ellen Landry.
I hear Paris is hard to level. I have none of those and can't give proper advice, but I would go for Uhura.
CP Paris is indeed one of the toughest crew to level. Uhura is pretty useless, other than (like Paris) being main cast crew and having the likelihood of appearing in more events as bonus crew. But Kurak is the rare Klingon with SCI, so she's at least worthy for that reason.
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I think it's victim of circumstance Kirks have been added to the game earlier than these cards I think, as time goes on newer more powerful cards get added to shake things up, but hopefully there will be a new kirk around the corner.
Maybe we’ll get a good Kirk variant again soon that can keep up with the newer characters.
Berlinghoff Rasmussen, Doctor Chapel, Commando Shran.
I'm leaning toward Berlinghoff cause of the interesting base skill mix (DIP, SEC, SCI)
None are really killer, alas. If you need MED, Chapel has a 165-612 proficiency to add to her base stat, so even though she's only one skill, she could come in handy for you (and isn't bad in Gauntlet). Rasmussen is rated as "Difficult" to level, and if you've only been playing 3 weeks, then it's likely that would mean "super difficult" for you, so it may take you some time to level him up enough to make it worthwhile using him.
As far as possibly being helpful in future events, Rasmussen is a one-off, and has little possibility of being bonus crew in the future. Chapel and Shran at least had multiple appearances in ST, but they have both already been featured in events in the past 4 months or so.
I'd say go with the one you like the most.
Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.
~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
Thanks. They all looked mediocre. Chapel it is for more MED.
1/4 Shran is useful for Voyages for newbie and mostly need drops from Fed shuttles.
1/4 Rasmussen is also useful for Voyages, but leveling attention he requires is too big, it's better to level two other purples instead.
I have Shran and Chapel. Chapel was more helpful until I got Doc Crusher and then Nurse Faith.
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Well, Chapel can be good choice if blues with med just plain do not drop for some reason or at least if Selar doesn't.
Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.
~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
Well, Mirror Phlox is much worse in that department, but he's much more useful too.
I think comparing a 1/4 to a 3/3 is problematic, since (at least recently-released) crew are pretty comparable in stats when you do that. As I said, none of those three are particularly killer. And I wasn't necessarily advocating for one over another. But there are rares with the same 3 skills that Shran has, who compare decently, and certainly ones with a different combo of skills with CMD at the top who beat him. It's apples and oranges, I think. The difference is, down the line, there will always be the opportunity to add more stars to a 1/4.
Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.
~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
Strangely, I had a rather massive stash of medical experiments until Victorian Pulaski. Not sure where it came from, but it got me through 3 Crushers, Cornwell, the rest of the 2* med crew, Rakal Troi, and several others.
Probably accumulated during my early days in the game, but I don’t recall sending out THAT many Augments shuttles.
Compensated by 3/3 being much MUCH more easily freezable.
Well, there is guaranteed Community Threshold Phlox ahead and his 63!!! BME (note to self: start farming cadets for BME/Med Lessons again). And he's much more useful even at 1/4.
Also - you probably farmed A Question of Rights in ACF Elite. Because that's like best/second best drops there - and it provides Med Lessons.
I didn’t farm then, I was still trying to get them all to 3*s. Unless it actually took that many tries to get the rare rewards. (I believe I 3*’ed it back when a crit was not a guarantee of a rare reward.)
Also, um, community threshold Phlox? This is a full faction event, right?
I have been farming that mission, as well as similar missions for every other day, since this event was announced last week. I had something like 10 med experiments, and I’ve FE’d Phlox since the event pack went up on Wednesday... Knew he was an insane level, so I actually went to the Crew Cost finder (Thank you, izausome!), and started to farm all of his items in preparation for my event pack purchases.
Edit: Clarity in the first paragraph, the existence of the third paragraph, basically.
Edit edit: Misspelling. I am so disappointed in me.
I'm not completely familiar with the formula for figuring average total skill #s, but just looking at one crew who has the same 3 skills as Commando Shran, The Viceroy is pretty close to 1500, isn't he?
(Though he was an absolute [rhymes-with-witch] to level.)
True, but are we talking about freezability or playability here?
In any case, I'm not really disagreeing with you — Shran would have been a fine choice, given their options in this particular instance.
Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.
~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
Captain Proton Paris, Commander Uhura, and Kurak
Leaning towards Kurak, cause she's part of a collection. Paris would be nice for Gauntlet, but I'm going to take a spin at today's crew packs and hope I pull Ellen Landry.
I hear Paris is hard to level. I have none of those and can't give proper advice, but I would go for Uhura.
CP Paris is indeed one of the toughest crew to level. Uhura is pretty useless, other than (like Paris) being main cast crew and having the likelihood of appearing in more events as bonus crew. But Kurak is the rare Klingon with SCI, so she's at least worthy for that reason.
Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.
~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
I think I'm going to go with Kurak. TY