Players who had Mirror Beverly will still hit the other medical nodes for full points. Players with Mirror Phlox or Crusher varients got less, players using a different high-level medical crew even less, and those that lack high-level medical crew got none.
This may not have effected each player equally in terms of number of points lost, but it effected everyone the same relatively. Outside of edge cases, I doubt it effected the final rankings and the pile of honor was adequate compensation. I'm not defedning DB; these errors continue to plague events and are a QC failure that needs to be addressed but some people are overreacting.
Actually, NONE of the med nodes were giving full credit for Mirror Crusher, so you are wrong there.
Uh, every medical node except the one on Gone To Ground gave full credit for Beverly on the other three missions.
Uh, every medical node except the one on Gone To Ground gave full credit for Beverly on the other three missions.
This is correct. I don't know what game the other person was playing, but I played enough tickets to get into the top 15 (and had a 4/5 Mirror Bev to play them with). The borked MED node in question was the only starred node that had any problem. All the rest awarded full bonus VP for event crew.
Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing. ~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
Players who had Mirror Beverly will still hit the other medical nodes for full points. Players with Mirror Phlox or Crusher varients got less, players using a different high-level medical crew even less, and those that lack high-level medical crew got none.
This may not have effected each player equally in terms of number of points lost, but it effected everyone the same relatively. Outside of edge cases, I doubt it effected the final rankings and the pile of honor was adequate compensation. I'm not defedning DB; these errors continue to plague events and are a QC failure that needs to be addressed but some people are overreacting.
Actually, NONE of the med nodes were giving full credit for Mirror Crusher, so you are wrong there.
Were any of the med nodes giving the right bonus for Phlox?
Yes. My Mirror Phlox, Dr. Crusher, Commando Crusher, and CMO Crusher all received the appropriate 50% VP bonus on all nodes. The only problem with the issue node was that it didn't scale the total points for Elite and Epic.
So what were you getting on the other nodes for Mirror Crusher?
You'll have to go with the other guys above, cause I didn't have her. (Do now though! )
I posted on Merry Christmas. They should have spotted us 250,000 VP instead of the tickets.
46,475 per a ticket, is the points I earned from Sunday to Monday which included the extra tickets. I was so burned out I was playing two accounts. I did run two extra 100vp on my second account until I realized it was silly. If I really wanted to get one more bracket I should just get an extra ticket. That was when I said enough is enough. I will take the bracket I will get. As it was I would have had to move up about 150 spots. I bet one ticket would have fell short.
On Friday I did not see the mail. I ran probably just about 75 extra 100vp missions on each account. Again silly one extra ticket would wipe that out easily.
I would like to complement DB on well designed missions ( the bug with the one MED node excluded, however that was just one elite node and one epic node)
Edit: in retrospect my 250,000 VP is high I would say a more realistic number would be 150,000 VP about half what I earned on them.
If you have Mirror Beverly and you risk missing out of the top 1k because of this bug you're doing something wrong. I'm making the top 1k using Mirror Phlox and Tuskeegee Mayweather. The only difference the bug is causing will be a couple places between 75 and 750. Hardly a significant change. If you'd like to submit a ticket for your merits, trainers, and 2 premium 1x portals, go ahead.
The main point was the initial response & communication, + the amount of and avoidable nature of many of these issues (not just the MED nodes) - which won't pile up like this if the player base is really listened to. We ask for more reruns to avoid much of this, and to help fuse existing crew. Holidays are a perfect time to gift players with chill reruns. (or just plan it more in advance and do full QA before staff go on vacation?)
Instead of squeezing out so many new events riddled with issues from being stretched too thin -- slow down to ensure a higher quality over quantity?
If you don't have enough yeast to bake a certain type of bread, don't try to bake it then act like it's a random accident when it doesn't rise as much.
That said as a fan of Bev and expeditions I was happy playing the event despite all the issues. Had my ritual Festivus Feats of Strength with many hours of endurance-clicking to break a bunch of achievements and earn more stars for a favourite crew who (+ citation) is now by far my top MED!
To put the accumulated difference of VP from the MED nodes in perspective: I missed 9th/10th place and immortalization of Mirror Bev by a lot less VP than the accumulation of missing VP from those 2 nodes (elite + epic). (Although likely 9th place who 10th place and I were chasing to stay in top 10, also had a levelled Mirror Bev).
Not necessarily though. Chewie broke top 15 there without even Mirror Phlox, due to sheer effort & ingenuity.
If this happened on a weekday, or a non-holiday weekend, we may have been able to fix it with coding cleverness. Trying to do so today, however, was unlikely to end well, which is we why resorted to updating the messaging and getting the compensation out as quickly as possible before it got even later.
You'll get no sympathy from me for choosing to run an event on a holiday weekend and then not having support staff available when something goes wrong. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
"Hey paying customers, give us a break. You can't expect everything to run smoothly and problems to be fixed in a timely manner when we voluntarily launch an untested event and then send our whole staff home for the holidays. We're not Q!"
Another proverb - you've made your bed, now lie in it.
Would have been nice if DB could at least have removed the star from that node. I played it twice even after my admiral warned everyone and I read the e-mail.
I am not certain what sort of compensation would have been good to make up for the shortened event. All I can do is talk about how it impacted me personally. In any event, extra tickets was NOT the solution. I only managed to use 2-3 of the tickets we were already given — Time was what was lacking. My time to play began a couple of hours before noon on Monday. I *could* have played almost solid until Tuesday, but of course that option did not exist.
What I would really like to see happen is another expedition event soonish. I had been looking forward to this one since it was first announced, and as noted above , I did not really get to play it.
So...is there any hope for another expedition event any time in the foreseeable future?
What I would really like to see happen is another expedition event soonish. I had been looking forward to this one since it was first announced, and as noted above , I did not really get to play it.
So...is there any hope for another expedition event any time in the foreseeable future?
Agreed, I'd been hoping for this expedition since the last one and would like another soonish.
- Given preparation and QA testing beforehand to avoid bugs, and ideally a favouriting function so our bonus crew remain at the top instead of scrolling way down each time.
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Uh, every medical node except the one on Gone To Ground gave full credit for Beverly on the other three missions.
This is correct. I don't know what game the other person was playing, but I played enough tickets to get into the top 15 (and had a 4/5 Mirror Bev to play them with). The borked MED node in question was the only starred node that had any problem. All the rest awarded full bonus VP for event crew.
Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.
~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
46,475 per a ticket, is the points I earned from Sunday to Monday which included the extra tickets. I was so burned out I was playing two accounts. I did run two extra 100vp on my second account until I realized it was silly. If I really wanted to get one more bracket I should just get an extra ticket. That was when I said enough is enough. I will take the bracket I will get. As it was I would have had to move up about 150 spots. I bet one ticket would have fell short.
On Friday I did not see the mail. I ran probably just about 75 extra 100vp missions on each account. Again silly one extra ticket would wipe that out easily.
I would like to complement DB on well designed missions ( the bug with the one MED node excluded, however that was just one elite node and one epic node)
Edit: in retrospect my 250,000 VP is high I would say a more realistic number would be 150,000 VP about half what I earned on them.
The main point was the initial response & communication, + the amount of and avoidable nature of many of these issues (not just the MED nodes) - which won't pile up like this if the player base is really listened to. We ask for more reruns to avoid much of this, and to help fuse existing crew. Holidays are a perfect time to gift players with chill reruns. (or just plan it more in advance and do full QA before staff go on vacation?)
Instead of squeezing out so many new events riddled with issues from being stretched too thin -- slow down to ensure a higher quality over quantity?
If you don't have enough yeast to bake a certain type of bread, don't try to bake it then act like it's a random accident when it doesn't rise as much.
That said as a fan of Bev and expeditions I was happy playing the event despite all the issues. Had my ritual Festivus Feats of Strength with many hours of endurance-clicking to break a bunch of achievements and earn more stars for a favourite crew who (+ citation) is now by far my top MED!
To put the accumulated difference of VP from the MED nodes in perspective: I missed 9th/10th place and immortalization of Mirror Bev by a lot less VP than the accumulation of missing VP from those 2 nodes (elite + epic). (Although likely 9th place who 10th place and I were chasing to stay in top 10, also had a levelled Mirror Bev).
Not necessarily though. Chewie broke top 15 there without even Mirror Phlox, due to sheer effort & ingenuity.
~· Fly with the Subspace Eddies! ·~
You'll get no sympathy from me for choosing to run an event on a holiday weekend and then not having support staff available when something goes wrong. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
"Hey paying customers, give us a break. You can't expect everything to run smoothly and problems to be fixed in a timely manner when we voluntarily launch an untested event and then send our whole staff home for the holidays. We're not Q!"
Another proverb - you've made your bed, now lie in it.
What I would really like to see happen is another expedition event soonish. I had been looking forward to this one since it was first announced, and as noted above , I did not really get to play it.
So...is there any hope for another expedition event any time in the foreseeable future?
Agreed, I'd been hoping for this expedition since the last one and would like another soonish.
- Given preparation and QA testing beforehand to avoid bugs, and ideally a favouriting function so our bonus crew remain at the top instead of scrolling way down each time.
~· Fly with the Subspace Eddies! ·~