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  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    So, now the Points are going BACKWARDS?!?!?

    Yeah if you fail shuttles your VP rewards can go down. There's info about it on the wiki: https://stt.wiki/wiki/Events#Faction_Event


    Quote from the wiki:

    "The skill difficulty, victory points scored, and time to completion is based upon your current number of successful and failed event shuttle missions in the below table. Each successful shuttle counts as one point, while each failed shuttle counts as -1.5."

    See? That right there. That is EXACTLY why I vehemently HATE "Fraction Events".

    {Because I end getting a FRACTION of the Points I can grind out for Galaxies........}


    Scott


    Fair enough. Faction events have a lot of RNG and require good crew. Dangerous mix

    Especially that whole "It is hard to get a Success, so we're gonna take 50% EXTRA credit away from your few Successes for each failure."

    It aint that hard to get successes with luck and a deep amount of bonus and event. This particular event it's more difficult as there aren't as many variants and they didn't open up the bonus further.
  • Paund SkummPaund Skumm ✭✭✭✭✭
    I’m glad to see that I’m not the only one having problems in this event with shuttle crashes...

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    But judging by my ranking, I kind of figured out it wasn’t just me and was across the board. I didn’t even hit 4K until one set after normal despite a three shuttle cushion due to failures from 2250vp onwards.
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    I’m glad to see that I’m not the only one having problems in this event with shuttle crashes...

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    But judging by my ranking, I kind of figured out it wasn’t just me and was across the board. I didn’t even hit 4K until one set after normal despite a three shuttle cushion due to failures from 2250vp onwards.

    Not awesome you are having trouble, too.

    Awesome GIF!!!!!


    Scott

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    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
  • EDIT TO ADD:

    Did just get a "TWO-CREW"

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    Looks like you might have just accidentally hit a Dominion mission instead of Federation.
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    Rocpile wrote: »
    EDIT TO ADD:

    Did just get a "TWO-CREW"

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    Looks like you might have just accidentally hit a Dominion mission instead of Federation.

    Son of a monkey!!!!!!

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    The Federation is right there at the start of the tabs. How on Earth?

    Well, maybe I get some good Drops, at least. Something I need.
    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
  • Paund SkummPaund Skumm ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rocpile wrote: »
    EDIT TO ADD:

    Did just get a "TWO-CREW"

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    Looks like you might have just accidentally hit a Dominion mission instead of Federation.

    Son of a monkey!!!!!!


    The Federation is right there at the start of the tabs. How on Earth?

    Well, maybe I get some good Drops, at least. Something I need.

    Yeah, but failing the event Fed missions only to get a good drop on the non-event Dominion mission is the STT equivalent of a “participation” ribbon... 😝
  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rocpile wrote: »
    EDIT TO ADD:

    Did just get a "TWO-CREW"

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    Looks like you might have just accidentally hit a Dominion mission instead of Federation.

    Son of a monkey!!!!!!


    The Federation is right there at the start of the tabs. How on Earth?

    Well, maybe I get some good Drops, at least. Something I need.

    Yeah, but failing the event Fed missions only to get a good drop on the non-event Dominion mission is the STT equivalent of a “participation” ribbon... 😝

    More like "Thought I participated" ribbon :)
  • Paund SkummPaund Skumm ✭✭✭✭✭
    Woah... 88, 88, 86, 85... failed 3/4... way to jinx myself...

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  • I wouldn’t mind these hybrid events if they made them Galaxy/Faction so if you run out of chrons you can smash it at the end with the shuttles.
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wright wrote: »
    I wouldn’t mind these hybrid events if they made them Galaxy/Faction so if you run out of chrons you can smash it at the end with the shuttles.

    I wouldn't need to smash it with Shuttles. Would do what I always do. have Threshold done before Phase Change.
    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
  • [SFW] Quick Claude[SFW] Quick Claude ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    Woah... 88, 88, 86, 85... failed 3/4... way to jinx myself...

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    I just came here specifically to see if other people were running into unusually high fail rates for shuttles with success chances in the 80s to mid 90's? Seems more than usual.
  • Wright wrote: »
    I wouldn’t mind these hybrid events if they made them Galaxy/Faction so if you run out of chrons you can smash it at the end with the shuttles.

    I wouldn't need to smash it with Shuttles. Would do what I always do. have Threshold done before Phase Change.

    Yeah, the problem I have is the event starts UK time just after my lunch break at work but long before I finish, so I lose quite a bit of time at the top of the event then the galaxy kicks in on the Saturday when I’m off. I’d do much better as I can binge galaxy around my work schedule and manage shuttle timings a lot more on days off.

  • Grant77Grant77 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2018

    EDIT TO ADD:

    Did just get a "TWO-CREW"

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    That's a Dominion mission. You obviously have to run the recommended faction in order to get any points.

    Also, why would you waste a valuable time reducer on that?
  • ~peregrine~~peregrine~ ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sending skill-boosted out at 65-80%, I am seeing 3/4 succeed at VP=3500 and 2/4 succeed at VP=4000. I feel like I am learning the Texas two-step all over again....
    "In the short run, the game defines the players. But in the long run, it's us players who define the game." — Nicky Case, The Evolution of Trust
  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sending skill-boosted out at 65-80%, I am seeing 3/4 succeed at VP=3500 and 2/4 succeed at VP=4000. I feel like I am learning the Texas two-step all over again....

    I think we're seeing the display issue on boosted ands again. If you boost the side of the and that you don't have represented it still ups the displayed percentage..
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    Grant77 wrote: »

    EDIT TO ADD:

    Did just get a "TWO-CREW"

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    That's a Dominion mission. You obviously have to run the recommended faction in order to get any points.

    Also, why would you waste a valuable time reducer on that?

    Have a nice day.
    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
  • So phase two has started. I would have spent an immediate $9.99 on the 1250 Chroniton deal had it appeared. Seems like a missed opportunity for DB.
  • ~peregrine~~peregrine~ ✭✭✭✭✭
    Anyone else still sending shuttles out? I am doing the Phase 1 extension for the first time, since chronitons can/will be dumped into Phase 2 at any point. I must admit, watching my ranking fall like Douglas Adams’s 🐋 is disheartening. 🖖🏻
    "In the short run, the game defines the players. But in the long run, it's us players who define the game." — Nicky Case, The Evolution of Trust
  • Still shuttling here...
    DB = Climbing up an endless wall...
  • Anyone else still sending shuttles out? I am doing the Phase 1 extension for the first time, since chronitons can/will be dumped into Phase 2 at any point. I must admit, watching my ranking fall like Douglas Adams’s 🐋 is disheartening. 🖖🏻
    Still shuttling here...

    How do you do this? After my final set of shuttles (that I set away an hour before the end of phase 1, but finished a couple hours after phase 2) came back, the Federation faction stopped being purple and went back to its normal colour.
    Level 99. Latest Immortal (957): Chancellor Gowron - October 2023.
  • ~peregrine~~peregrine~ ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    Anyone else still sending shuttles out? I am doing the Phase 1 extension for the first time, since chronitons can/will be dumped into Phase 2 at any point. I must admit, watching my ranking fall like Douglas Adams’s 🐋 is disheartening. 🖖🏻
    Still shuttling here...

    How do you do this? After my final set of shuttles (that I set away an hour before the end of phase 1, but finished a couple hours after phase 2) came back, the Federation faction stopped being purple and went back to its normal colour.

    I opened 20 transmissions before the Phase change. Those transmissions will still earn VP, but the crew bonus multipliers do not seem to apply. I have not entered the Event since then, just looked at the Leaderboard & Rewards tabs.
    "In the short run, the game defines the players. But in the long run, it's us players who define the game." — Nicky Case, The Evolution of Trust
  • Knight RangerKnight Ranger ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    I opened 20 transmissions before the Phase change. Those transmissions will still earn VP, but the crew bonus multipliers do not seem to apply. I have not entered the Event since then, just looked at the Leaderboard & Rewards tabs.

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    Seems obvious now you've said it. Thanks. Something for me to consider next time.
    Level 99. Latest Immortal (957): Chancellor Gowron - October 2023.
  • [BL] Q [BL] Q ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pallidyne wrote: »
    higher than the 4* Doc who taught him everything he knew?

    To be fair, that's a bad example (although I agree in general.) He was being controlled by the holodeck computer and therefore his stats aren't based on Tom Paris but rather the character Lt. Bobby Davis.

    Well you are sort of correct. Except Lt. Bobby Davis was not a combat medic. At no time in the episode does he a)carry the medic bag DB gave him b)perform any medical duties..zero. c)identify himself as medic of any kind. In fact when Torres starts having labor pains it is very clear the Hirogen cut off access to his he medical training.

    Combat Medic Paris is a made up crew from DB. Just like "Agent Janeway", who players mistakenly thought was from that episode until the real Janeway from that episode was released ("Katrine Janeway").

    You can call them inspired by the Hirgoen holodeck episode but not from the episode.

    Somewhat back on topic, I think this event will be bloodbath. I doubt I'll have the stamina to go for Q. I'll take my "Micky B" and go home.

    Agent Janeway is from that episode. She is in that outfit a little later on. DB just did not call her Katrine.
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    The character DB gave us was a Section 31 agent not a member of the French resistance like in the episode. Thats why I said inspired by.

    That trait always baffled me as Janeway was never dressed in 1940's gear working for Section 31, let alone in the exact same outfit she was in when acting out Katrine's character on the Holodeck. Section 31 was never part of Voyager.

    The same reason Klingon Neelix was KCA in the Timelines story. Someone was drunk.

    They need to stop drinking during the work hours; they need to save it for the first thing in the morning. I know Romulan Ale and Bloodwine are enticing, though.

    It's always 5pm somewhere
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  • Data1001Data1001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I opened 20 transmissions before the Phase change. Those transmissions will still earn VP, but the crew bonus multipliers do not seem to apply. I have not entered the Event since then, just looked at the Leaderboard & Rewards tabs.

    We actually did some unofficial testing of this in our fleet in the last hybrid event, after hearing from quite a few others here on the forums that the visual display of %s is incorrect in this case. We found that even very, very low percentage shuttles were coming back successful more often than not when these event/bonus crew were used. So, basically, what I now believe to be true is that the crew bonuses actually do still apply — they will not show as bonuses, and the displayed percentages will be quite low, but in reality, those percentages are the same as what you would have gotten with the same crew had you run that mission in Phase 1. (If you leave your game up and running the whole time, you will still see the bonus crew info and proper percentages — it's only after a restart that the visuals are incorrect.)

    One other thing to keep in mind is that if you do restart before you have run all those Phase 1 shuttles, you will lose access to the shared crew from your squadron leader.



    Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.
    ~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
  • ~peregrine~~peregrine~ ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Data1001, thanks for the tip about restart affecting the crew & display. Next Hybrid, I’ll just leave the app up & running all 4 (please, not 5, ever again) days.
    "In the short run, the game defines the players. But in the long run, it's us players who define the game." — Nicky Case, The Evolution of Trust
  • Data1001Data1001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Data1001, thanks for the tip about restart affecting the crew & display. Next Hybrid, I’ll just leave the app up & running all 4 (please, not 5, ever again) days.

    You're welcome, but you'd only need to leave it open and running for 12 hours max to take advantage of using Phase 1 shuttles in Phase 2. The max length of time a transmission stays up before it expires is 12 hours, so that's only as long as you'd have to avoid restarting the game.


    Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.
    ~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
  • ~peregrine~~peregrine~ ✭✭✭✭✭
    Data1001 wrote: »
    @Data1001, thanks for the tip about restart affecting the crew & display. Next Hybrid, I’ll just leave the app up & running all 4 (please, not 5, ever again) days.

    You're welcome, but you'd only need to leave it open and running for 12 hours max to take advantage of using Phase 1 shuttles in Phase 2. The max length of time a transmission stays up before it expires is 12 hours, so that's only as long as you'd have to avoid restarting the game.

    Understood (I was kind of joking about 4 days). I’ll just switch to Steam & plug in the laptop for those 12 hours.

    Somewhat related, I found this exchange on the current thread about the Community Rewards 10x DS9 portal pulls:
    There is still a portion of the event players that have crew on shuttles generating VP. They can't even enter Phase 2 and start building yet.

    Why not? You only need about three crew for galaxy. Just leave those three off the shuttles and do both

    I opened 20 transmissions 5 minutes before Phase 1 ended. I thought that entering Phase 2, before completing those, would convert the transmissions to regular, non-Event (no VP) shuttles. Did I think wrongly? If so, I need to get cracking on the crafting!

    I sincerely appreciate your help, @Data1001. Thank you. 🖖🏻

    "In the short run, the game defines the players. But in the long run, it's us players who define the game." — Nicky Case, The Evolution of Trust
  • Data1001Data1001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There is still a portion of the event players that have crew on shuttles generating VP. They can't even enter Phase 2 and start building yet.

    Why not? You only need about three crew for galaxy. Just leave those three off the shuttles and do both

    I opened 20 transmissions 5 minutes before Phase 1 ended. I thought that entering Phase 2, before completing those, would convert the transmissions to regular, non-Event (no VP) shuttles. Did I think wrongly? If so, I need to get cracking on the crafting!

    Yeah, as long as they're opened before Phase 1 ends, they'll stay event shuttles until they expire.

    And yes, I'm one of those people who Spear was referencing above. Alas, I was unable to do as EWB suggested, since the amount of event/bonus crew I have is severely limited, so removing three of them from those shuttles would mean failing at least half of them. No issue to wait until tomorrow, though — that's the nice thing about Galaxy events: you don't have to dig into them right away but can play them at any time (so long as you've got a few spare hours for crafting).
    I sincerely appreciate your help, @Data1001. Thank you. 🖖🏻

    My pleasure. :)


    Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.
    ~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    Data1001 wrote: »
    I opened 20 transmissions before the Phase change. Those transmissions will still earn VP, but the crew bonus multipliers do not seem to apply. I have not entered the Event since then, just looked at the Leaderboard & Rewards tabs.

    We actually did some unofficial testing of this in our fleet in the last hybrid event, after hearing from quite a few others here on the forums that the visual display of %s is incorrect in this case. We found that even very, very low percentage shuttles were coming back successful more often than not when these event/bonus crew were used. So, basically, what I now believe to be true is that the crew bonuses actually do still apply — they will not show as bonuses, and the displayed percentages will be quite low, but in reality, those percentages are the same as what you would have gotten with the same crew had you run that mission in Phase 1. (If you leave your game up and running the whole time, you will still see the bonus crew info and proper percentages — it's only after a restart that the visuals are incorrect.)

    One other thing to keep in mind is that if you do restart before you have run all those Phase 1 shuttles, you will lose access to the shared crew from your squadron leader.

    Was the game restarted before the shuttles came back?
    I've found that if the game stays open the whole time I had better results....I was getting 3/4 successful this time with bonus crew.
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