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  • WaldoMagWaldoMag ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • edited January 2018
    This is a great idea. But one problem: if any collection contains a 5* legendary crew (let alone multiple), this will be a whales only achievement/reward and unobtainable by the vast majority of players, including some VIP14s.

    Getting a 1/5 is hard enough, but immortalizing them will be crazy.

    Please keep collections limited to a 4* crew.

    I am VIP 14 on one of my 2 profiles and 12 on the other and I only have 4 and 3 respectively inmortalized Legendary crew only, anyway having the Crew even it's not inmortalized, it already appears on the Cryostasis Vault, so I believe that if you have it you should be able to use it as part of a collection.
  • Apart from what Travis mentions
    My first thought was that collections would be organized thematically. For instance:

    Based on source

    Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
    • "Dark Ages" McCoy
    • Commander Chapel
    • Commander Chekov
    • Dr. Gillian Taylor
    • Nyota Uhura
    • Professor Scott
    • Recovering Spock

    Based on something the crew have in common
    Starfleet Academy
    • Cadet Nog
    • Cadet Sylvia Tilly
    • Cadet Sito Jaxa
    • Cadet Wesley Crusher

    A group that was in a themed pack in the time portal

    Cultural Figures
    • Abraham Lincoln
    • Ambassador Sarek
    • Apollo
    • Chancellor Gowron
    • Dominion Dukat
    • Kai Opaka

    and other mentions above about possible collections there can be lots ob possible collections out there to do:
    Klingons, Vulcans, Cardassians, Humans, Non-Humans, Villians, Mirror Universe, Androids, Maquis, Bajorans, Changelings, Augmenteds, Cultural Figures, Ambassadors, Captains, TOS crew, TNG crew, and every other series crew, Dominion, Ferenghis, Borgs, and even Collections of the same crew member: All Kirks, Spocks, Picards, Rikers, etc. as you see lots of possible collections to make just playing
  • This is a great idea. But one problem: if any collection contains a 5* legendary crew (let alone multiple), this will be a whales only achievement/reward and unobtainable by the vast majority of players, including some VIP14s.

    Getting a 1/5 is hard enough, but immortalizing them will be crazy.

    Please keep collections limited to a 4* crew.

    I am VIP 14 on one of my 2 profiles and 12 on the other and I only have 4 and 3 respectively inmortalized Legendary crew only, anyway having the Crew even it's not inmortalized, it already appears on the Cryostasis Vault, so I believe that if you have it you should be able to use it as part of a collection.

    The collections screen specifically states that Immortalized crew count towards a collection. Not just any crew you've acquired.
  • Althea BiermontAlthea Biermont ✭✭✭✭✭
    Honor makes it possible to immortalize any crew, even a five star. It just may take some time.
  • edited January 2018
    This is a great idea. But one problem: if any collection contains a 5* legendary crew (let alone multiple), this will be a whales only achievement/reward and unobtainable by the vast majority of players, including some VIP14s.

    Getting a 1/5 is hard enough, but immortalizing them will be crazy.

    Please keep collections limited to a 4* crew.

    I am VIP 14 on one of my 2 profiles and 12 on the other and I only have 4 and 3 respectively inmortalized Legendary crew only, anyway having the Crew even it's not inmortalized, it already appears on the Cryostasis Vault, so I believe that if you have it you should be able to use it as part of a collection.

    The collections screen specifically states that Immortalized crew count towards a collection. Not just any crew you've acquired.

    Fisrt of all: there can be changes to be fair with more humble players and secondly, why don't we all have that screen?
  • FutureImperfectaFutureImperfecta ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is a great idea. But one problem: if any collection contains a 5* legendary crew (let alone multiple), this will be a whales only achievement/reward and unobtainable by the vast majority of players, including some VIP14s.

    Getting a 1/5 is hard enough, but immortalizing them will be crazy.

    Please keep collections limited to a 4* crew.

    I am VIP 14 on one of my 2 profiles and 12 on the other and I only have 4 and 3 respectively inmortalized Legendary crew only, anyway having the Crew even it's not inmortalized, it already appears on the Cryostasis Vault, so I believe that if you have it you should be able to use it as part of a collection.

    The collections screen specifically states that Immortalized crew count towards a collection. Not just any crew you've acquired.

    Fisrt of all: there can be changes to be fair with more humble players and secondly, why don't we all have that screen?


    I have the screen..
    Just go into the vault and it's the (i) button on the top right.


  • This is a great idea. But one problem: if any collection contains a 5* legendary crew (let alone multiple), this will be a whales only achievement/reward and unobtainable by the vast majority of players, including some VIP14s.

    Getting a 1/5 is hard enough, but immortalizing them will be crazy.

    Please keep collections limited to a 4* crew.

    I am VIP 14 on one of my 2 profiles and 12 on the other and I only have 4 and 3 respectively inmortalized Legendary crew only, anyway having the Crew even it's not inmortalized, it already appears on the Cryostasis Vault, so I believe that if you have it you should be able to use it as part of a collection.

    The collections screen specifically states that Immortalized crew count towards a collection. Not just any crew you've acquired.

    Fisrt of all: there can be changes to be fair with more humble players and secondly, why don't we all have that screen?

    I completely agree, and that's why I suggested that 5*s be excluded from collections. that way everyone has a chance of getting the collection achievement. I too am barely VIP14 and i only have a couple more 5* immortalized than you. neither of us would really benefit from the collection achievement as currently laid out. hopefully DB will realize that.

    But knowing DB, they will make multiple 5*s required for each collection and the reward will be 500 honor per collection. If that's the case, this whole thing is much ado about nothing.
  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think a compromise would be equitable being that some collections have 5s and some not. If all do, then yeah that ain't happening for more than a fraction of folks. But some gives folks who have gotten certain 5s up through cash or honor a nod.
  • There will be a mix. 2* selections, such as all, all the girls, all the Captains maybe. All the greys. All the blues. Then into the Age of Sail, Cultural Figures, Captains maybe, with a mix of mostly 4* and a couple of 5* for the big rewards. That's my guess. I suspect it will be a while coming, but maybe that's why the revamp has taken so long. They're doing more coding than merely a sorting system.
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  • Did anyone notice the wording

    "– Immortalized crew maybe returned to active duty at any time via the Cryostasis Vault, as long as your Crew Quarters do not contain an Immortalized crew member of the same type. "

    This would be a change in existing programming, as I have successfully frozen dupes and returned said frozen crew both to "active duty." This change would mean once frozen, and and duplicate immortalized crew exists, your duplicate in the freezer STAYS in the freezer forever.

    I really hope this is not the case. All but 1 of my duplicate 4* crew are active and I use them frequently, because they have good stats for almost everything.
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  • Data1001Data1001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    Did anyone notice the wording

    "– Immortalized crew maybe returned to active duty at any time via the Cryostasis Vault, as long as your Crew Quarters do not contain an Immortalized crew member of the same type. "

    This would be a change in existing programming, as I have successfully frozen dupes and returned said frozen crew both to "active duty." This change would mean once frozen, and and duplicate immortalized crew exists, your duplicate in the freezer STAYS in the freezer forever.

    I really hope this is not the case. All but 1 of my duplicate 4* crew are active and I use them frequently, because they have good stats for almost everything.

    That's not good.

    @Shan — can we please get clarification on this? I have several dupes, and even one crew that I have 3 immortal copies of. Of those, I've got 2 Coffee Janeways in the freezer, 2 Tourist Quarks in the freezer, and after this event, will have two Temporal Agent Sevens in the freezer.

    If we are no longer able to freeze and retrieve multiple copies of crew, this is something we need heads up on. Otherwise, I guarantee you there will be tickets from a number of players on that issue.


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  • Lilac Erosion Lilac Erosion ✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    Data1001 wrote: »
    Did anyone notice the wording

    "– Immortalized crew maybe returned to active duty at any time via the Cryostasis Vault, as long as your Crew Quarters do not contain an Immortalized crew member of the same type. "

    This would be a change in existing programming, as I have successfully frozen dupes and returned said frozen crew both to "active duty." This change would mean once frozen, and and duplicate immortalized crew exists, your duplicate in the freezer STAYS in the freezer forever.

    I really hope this is not the case. All but 1 of my duplicate 4* crew are active and I use them frequently, because they have good stats for almost everything.

    That's not good.

    @Shan — can we please get clarification on this? I have several dupes, and even one crew that I have 3 immortal copies of. Of those, I've got 2 Coffee Janeways in the freezer, 2 Tourist Quarks in the freezer, and after this event, will have two Temporal Agent Sevens in the freezer.

    If we are no longer able to freeze and retrieve multiple copies of crew, this is something we need heads up on. Otherwise, I guarantee you there will be tickets from a number of players on that issue.

    If memory servers that is the original wording. Nod (may he Great Bird of the Galaxy praise him) originally stated that you could not freeze 2 alike crew. The we discovered tha indeed you could.
    Sincerely,

    Lilac Erosion

    7TH Tactical Wing

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  • Lilac Erosion Lilac Erosion ✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    Duplicate post
    Sincerely,

    Lilac Erosion

    7TH Tactical Wing

    Maybe the irony is that we play because we’re Star Trek fans, those hopeful idealists that like to think things will get better when we raise valid concerns about fairness and balance, etc and we forget that DB’s greed openly mocks the values espoused by the franchise they have a license
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  • Data1001Data1001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Data1001 wrote: »
    Did anyone notice the wording

    "– Immortalized crew maybe returned to active duty at any time via the Cryostasis Vault, as long as your Crew Quarters do not contain an Immortalized crew member of the same type. "

    This would be a change in existing programming, as I have successfully frozen dupes and returned said frozen crew both to "active duty." This change would mean once frozen, and and duplicate immortalized crew exists, your duplicate in the freezer STAYS in the freezer forever.

    I really hope this is not the case. All but 1 of my duplicate 4* crew are active and I use them frequently, because they have good stats for almost everything.

    That's not good.

    @Shan — can we please get clarification on this? I have several dupes, and even one crew that I have 3 immortal copies of. Of those, I've got 2 Coffee Janeways in the freezer, 2 Tourist Quarks in the freezer, and after this event, will have two Temporal Agent Sevens in the freezer.

    If we are no longer able to freeze and retrieve multiple copies of crew, this is something we need heads up on. Otherwise, I guarantee you there will be tickets from a number of players on that issue.

    If memory servers that is the original wording. Nod (may he Great Bird of the Galaxey praise him) orginaly stated that you could not freeze to alike crew. The we discovered tha indeed you could. What is intressting it that the new wording in Collections states that you can only

    Somebody in my fleet also just mentioned that they remembered this being worded as such from the beginning. It's still a little troubling, but hopefully it's one thing that they don't end up "fixing" in reality, in order to correlate with the statement.


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  • Data1001 wrote: »
    Did anyone notice the wording

    "– Immortalized crew maybe returned to active duty at any time via the Cryostasis Vault, as long as your Crew Quarters do not contain an Immortalized crew member of the same type. "

    This would be a change in existing programming, as I have successfully frozen dupes and returned said frozen crew both to "active duty." This change would mean once frozen, and and duplicate immortalized crew exists, your duplicate in the freezer STAYS in the freezer forever.

    I really hope this is not the case. All but 1 of my duplicate 4* crew are active and I use them frequently, because they have good stats for almost everything.

    That's not good.

    @Shan — can we please get clarification on this? I have several dupes, and even one crew that I have 3 immortal copies of. Of those, I've got 2 Coffee Janeways in the freezer, 2 Tourist Quarks in the freezer, and after this event, will have two Temporal Agent Sevens in the freezer.

    If we are no longer able to freeze and retrieve multiple copies of crew, this is something we need heads up on. Otherwise, I guarantee you there will be tickets from a number of players on that issue.

    This is 100% original wording and dupes are now aloud.... you can see this when you imortalized crew to thw freezer, they say you can only extract one for merits
    Vault can hold dupes now 100%
  • izausome wrote: »
    Data1001 wrote: »
    Did anyone notice the wording

    "– Immortalized crew maybe returned to active duty at any time via the Cryostasis Vault, as long as your Crew Quarters do not contain an Immortalized crew member of the same type. "

    This would be a change in existing programming, as I have successfully frozen dupes and returned said frozen crew both to "active duty." This change would mean once frozen, and and duplicate immortalized crew exists, your duplicate in the freezer STAYS in the freezer forever.

    I really hope this is not the case. All but 1 of my duplicate 4* crew are active and I use them frequently, because they have good stats for almost everything.

    That's not good.

    @Shan — can we please get clarification on this? I have several dupes, and even one crew that I have 3 immortal copies of. Of those, I've got 2 Coffee Janeways in the freezer, 2 Tourist Quarks in the freezer, and after this event, will have two Temporal Agent Sevens in the freezer.

    If we are no longer able to freeze and retrieve multiple copies of crew, this is something we need heads up on. Otherwise, I guarantee you there will be tickets from a number of players on that issue.

    This is 100% original wording and dupes are now aloud.... you can see this when you imortalized crew to thw freezer, they say you can only extract one for merits
    Vault can hold dupes now 100%

    Have not really read the warning but I know I have pulled the second copy out for merits.
    Sincerely,

    Lilac Erosion

    7TH Tactical Wing

    Maybe the irony is that we play because we’re Star Trek fans, those hopeful idealists that like to think things will get better when we raise valid concerns about fairness and balance, etc and we forget that DB’s greed openly mocks the values espoused by the franchise they have a license
    -Lord Wizzlestix IT
  • [BL] Q [BL] Q ✭✭✭✭✭
    Data1001 wrote: »
    Did anyone notice the wording

    "– Immortalized crew maybe returned to active duty at any time via the Cryostasis Vault, as long as your Crew Quarters do not contain an Immortalized crew member of the same type. "

    This would be a change in existing programming, as I have successfully frozen dupes and returned said frozen crew both to "active duty." This change would mean once frozen, and and duplicate immortalized crew exists, your duplicate in the freezer STAYS in the freezer forever.

    I really hope this is not the case. All but 1 of my duplicate 4* crew are active and I use them frequently, because they have good stats for almost everything.

    That's not good.

    @Shan — can we please get clarification on this? I have several dupes, and even one crew that I have 3 immortal copies of. Of those, I've got 2 Coffee Janeways in the freezer, 2 Tourist Quarks in the freezer, and after this event, will have two Temporal Agent Sevens in the freezer.

    If we are no longer able to freeze and retrieve multiple copies of crew, this is something we need heads up on. Otherwise, I guarantee you there will be tickets from a number of players on that issue.

    I've several 5* dupes glad I never Cryo'd them. If this is the case I imagine Picardgate pitchfork and torches will be nothing to fire caused by torches this time around
  • GreenStuffGreenStuff ✭✭
    edited January 2018
    I could test this myself, but I'm hoping to get a quicker (and cheaper) answer here: if you immortalise more than one copy of a character, does the second copy increment the 'achievements' count? So if I need one more immortalised card to reach a prize threshold, can I just FE a 1* that I already have in the freezer and reach the threshold?
  • Yes it does.
  • Captain_WhoCaptain_Who ✭✭✭✭✭
    So what, for achievements just keep doing the 1*s over and over? And here I've airlocked every 1* ever encountered and most 2* and 3* too.
  • Who's the easiest 1* to immortalize then? Believe it or not, none of my 18 month old accounts have a single 1* immortalized.
  • IvanstoneIvanstone ✭✭✭✭✭
    p377y7h33f wrote: »
    Who's the easiest 1* to immortalize then? Believe it or not, none of my 18 month old accounts have a single 1* immortalized.

    Real men level 1* Chakotay.
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  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ivanstone wrote: »
    p377y7h33f wrote: »
    Who's the easiest 1* to immortalize then? Believe it or not, none of my 18 month old accounts have a single 1* immortalized.

    Real men level 1* Chakotay.

    Didn't they rework him so he' s not such a pain?
  • IvanstoneIvanstone ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pallidyne wrote: »
    Ivanstone wrote: »
    p377y7h33f wrote: »
    Who's the easiest 1* to immortalize then? Believe it or not, none of my 18 month old accounts have a single 1* immortalized.

    Real men level 1* Chakotay.

    Didn't they rework him so he' s not such a pain?

    Yeah, but he's still listed as "Hard" by the Crew Cost Finder.

    Also I want to see Petty make a massively hyperbolic post about it afterwards.
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  • AmphistaffAmphistaff ✭✭✭✭✭
    I could test this myself, but I'm hoping to get a quicker (and cheaper) answer here: if you immortalise more than one copy of a character, does the second copy increment the 'achievements' count? So if I need one more immortalised card to reach a prize threshold, can I just FE a 1* that I already have in the freezer and reach the threshold?

    Anytime you immortalize any character (duplicate or otherwise) the achievement counter will tick up. It doesn't affect the count seen in the cryo vault as those are unique cards immortalized but the achievement definitely DOES tick for extras.
  • I found ensign Kim to be very easy. Have only done him once as I have other crew to spend chrons on but if I remember correctly he was a breeze.
  • C6pilot wrote: »
    Jim Steele wrote: »
    This is a great idea. But one problem: if any collection contains a 5* legendary crew (let alone multiple), this will be a whales only achievement/reward and unobtainable by the vast majority of players, including some VIP14s.
    don't worry the achievement reward will likely be of minimal value like 3 premium portal pulls.

    If it's anything like the event rewards, it'll reward you the characters you already have in your collection. ie. Buy enough event packs to rank 1st and your reward is a copy of what you used to rank 1st. Just brilliant!

    This is pretty much what I expect to happen
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  • WaldoMagWaldoMag ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    One last collection thought. It could be by events.

    I will add I am one star away from immortalizing my only Dupe AoS Crusher. I too am concerned. I did not know dupes could be frozen. But my concern is wording says you can only have one crew. That is, if one is active you cannot pull one out of cryo.

    But I guess I would never freeze AoS Crusher she is too useful.
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