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  • Peachtree RexPeachtree Rex ✭✭✭✭✭
    SMM wrote: »
    Tracking faction performance;

    The Honor of Andoria event factions were Terran Empire, the Augments, and Maquis.
    Maquis transmissions presented as a free gift.
    Maquis Faction win.

    Conjecture is an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.

    The logic is that a factor can affect a result. If the factor is removed then it cannot possibly affect a result.

    If youre interested in rationalizing what factors most influence the winning faction, I recommend you start a new thread that records:
    -Factions available
    -which ones have been featured in an event recently
    -transmissions that have been provided via daily rewards recently
    -transmissions that have been via event announcement (assuming an asymmetrical distribution)
    -the "easy one to get to" (left most in the list)
    -for megas, has one faction been required disproportionately for the event characters (I.e., Klingon Blood wine)
    -I dont have a good rubric in mind, but it would be helpful to quantify which faction had missions that were best tailored to event crew
    -post event, track final scores and margins of victory

    Trying to account for all of those things should help you quantify your transmission effect.
  • Althea BiermontAlthea Biermont ✭✭✭✭✭
    SMM wrote: »
    Tracking faction performance;

    The Honor of Andoria event factions were Terran Empire, the Augments, and Maquis.
    Maquis transmissions presented as a free gift.
    Maquis Faction win.

    Conjecture is an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.

    The logic is that a factor can affect a result. If the factor is removed then it cannot possibly affect a result.

    The reason the Maquis won had nothing to do with loot or storyline. The Maquis had something much more valuable than the other two factions.

    All 3 factions had 4 different 3 seat shuttle missions. The Terran and Augment faction had no 3-seaters where all 3 seats shared a single skill. For the Maquis, 3 of the 4 three-seaters shared a common skill in all 3 seats and the 4th one had 2 seats with a skill in common.

    This gave a big advantage to anyone playing the Maquis shuttles when apply a skill boost helped all 3 seats.

  • SMMSMM ✭✭✭
    SMM wrote: »
    Tracking faction performance;

    The Honor of Andoria event factions were Terran Empire, the Augments, and Maquis.
    Maquis transmissions presented as a free gift.
    Maquis Faction win.

    Conjecture is an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.

    The logic is that a factor can affect a result. If the factor is removed then it cannot possibly affect a result.

    The reason the Maquis won had nothing to do with loot or storyline. The Maquis had something much more valuable than the other two factions.

    All 3 factions had 4 different 3 seat shuttle missions. The Terran and Augment faction had no 3-seaters where all 3 seats shared a single skill. For the Maquis, 3 of the 4 three-seaters shared a common skill in all 3 seats and the 4th one had 2 seats with a skill in common.

    This gave a big advantage to anyone playing the Maquis shuttles when apply a skill boost helped all 3 seats.

    Yes.

    So, during the event, when someone is looking at the success rate they are unable to determine which faction is empirically the best (or favoured for rewards) because the effect of the free transmissions, at that point, is unknown. In this new modified 6 shuttle version people are also looking to see which is the second best faction.

    In some events it may be that the nature of the missions is likely to be the overriding factor that determines the winner. In others it is the rewards. In other events there will be no overriding factor. It is also possible that for some events the free transmissions may be the overriding factor.

    The point is that free transmissions may have an effect either directly or indirectly and that that effect may vary during an event. The solution is stunningly simple. Don't present event faction tokens prior to an event then it is not possible to affect the event.



  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    SMM wrote: »
    SMM wrote: »
    Tracking faction performance;

    The Honor of Andoria event factions were Terran Empire, the Augments, and Maquis.
    Maquis transmissions presented as a free gift.
    Maquis Faction win.

    Conjecture is an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.

    The logic is that a factor can affect a result. If the factor is removed then it cannot possibly affect a result.

    The reason the Maquis won had nothing to do with loot or storyline. The Maquis had something much more valuable than the other two factions.

    All 3 factions had 4 different 3 seat shuttle missions. The Terran and Augment faction had no 3-seaters where all 3 seats shared a single skill. For the Maquis, 3 of the 4 three-seaters shared a common skill in all 3 seats and the 4th one had 2 seats with a skill in common.

    This gave a big advantage to anyone playing the Maquis shuttles when apply a skill boost helped all 3 seats.

    Yes.

    So, during the event, when someone is looking at the success rate they are unable to determine which faction is empirically the best (or favoured for rewards) because the effect of the free transmissions, at that point, is unknown. In this new modified 6 shuttle version people are also looking to see which is the second best faction.

    In some events it may be that the nature of the missions is likely to be the overriding factor that determines the winner. In others it is the rewards. In other events there will be no overriding factor. It is also possible that for some events the free transmissions may be the overriding factor.

    The point is that free transmissions may have an effect either directly or indirectly and that that effect may vary during an event. The solution is stunningly simple. Don't present event faction tokens prior to an event then it is not possible to affect the event.



    Actually as those give new players a lil start, the solution would not be to give no transmissions but to give equal transmissions from all involved factions.
  • SMMSMM ✭✭✭
    Pallidyne wrote: »
    SMM wrote: »
    SMM wrote: »
    Tracking faction performance;

    The Honor of Andoria event factions were Terran Empire, the Augments, and Maquis.
    Maquis transmissions presented as a free gift.
    Maquis Faction win.

    Conjecture is an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.

    The logic is that a factor can affect a result. If the factor is removed then it cannot possibly affect a result.

    The reason the Maquis won had nothing to do with loot or storyline. The Maquis had something much more valuable than the other two factions.

    All 3 factions had 4 different 3 seat shuttle missions. The Terran and Augment faction had no 3-seaters where all 3 seats shared a single skill. For the Maquis, 3 of the 4 three-seaters shared a common skill in all 3 seats and the 4th one had 2 seats with a skill in common.

    This gave a big advantage to anyone playing the Maquis shuttles when apply a skill boost helped all 3 seats.

    Yes.

    So, during the event, when someone is looking at the success rate they are unable to determine which faction is empirically the best (or favoured for rewards) because the effect of the free transmissions, at that point, is unknown. In this new modified 6 shuttle version people are also looking to see which is the second best faction.

    In some events it may be that the nature of the missions is likely to be the overriding factor that determines the winner. In others it is the rewards. In other events there will be no overriding factor. It is also possible that for some events the free transmissions may be the overriding factor.

    The point is that free transmissions may have an effect either directly or indirectly and that that effect may vary during an event. The solution is stunningly simple. Don't present event faction tokens prior to an event then it is not possible to affect the event.



    Actually as those give new players a lil start, the solution would not be to give no transmissions but to give equal transmissions from all involved factions.

    I was driving at, but did not specifically say, that faction tokens for one of the other factions would be good. This solution works too. Or merits.
  • I run missions for whichever faction i need stuff from most.
    After that, whichever one I haven't maxxed favor in but am closest to doing so. (Maxxed augments this time around).
    After that, whichever one I have the most mission tokens for.
  • edited February 2018
    I do not play the same faction during the event because of transmissions lack, but I really care about who wins, because I can mine later that faction with a minimal merit investment. During the night, I send them all with the time extension that means more prizes, so, during night I can get a lot of prizes and transmissions too!
  • I choose first whoever has the missions that are best for my crew . if all are the same, i choose based on which faction has the most coveted rare components as rewards. Then I choose against the faction i like the least (ferengi, you **tsk tsk**!)

    I think some people choose whichever faction is listed first, and that should have been a choice in the poll.
  • I tend to only care if I have a faction that I plan to play heavily in the week following the event (e.g., to acquire needed items or to bump a faction up to Honored status), in which case I might as well get some winning faction bonuses out of it.
  • Dirk GundersonDirk Gunderson ✭✭✭✭✭
    Take the factions for this week’s event: getting databases and expansion modules from the Cardassians would be nice but priority #1 is case files, tactical alerts, holoprograms, and sensors from Section 31, with casings and maybe 1* furs from the Hirogen being a nice change of pace.
  • Odo MarmarosaOdo Marmarosa ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was interested in how the most recent Marquis/Augment/Terran Empire event would go. All three drop usefull components, but I expected Augments to win due to 0* med experiments and 2* sci experiments. Instead the Marquis broke out (1* & 2* communiques are more popular apparently, or maybe the Leftmost Faction Hypothesis rings true) which is just as awesome for both flavor and gameplay.
  • IronagedaveIronagedave ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sometimes I care, but it will mainly be whether I can use the equipment received from shuttles or not. Other times I have no preference and just look at the points roll, and think ah what the hell - can't beat them join them.
    [was on Sabbatical/Hiatus] Currently a trialist at Galaxy SquadronSTAY SAFE and KBO
  • SMMSMM ✭✭✭
    Pallidyne wrote: »
    SMM wrote: »
    SMM wrote: »
    Tracking faction performance;

    The Honor of Andoria event factions were Terran Empire, the Augments, and Maquis.
    Maquis transmissions presented as a free gift.
    Maquis Faction win.

    Conjecture is an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.

    The logic is that a factor can affect a result. If the factor is removed then it cannot possibly affect a result.

    The reason the Maquis won had nothing to do with loot or storyline. The Maquis had something much more valuable than the other two factions.

    All 3 factions had 4 different 3 seat shuttle missions. The Terran and Augment faction had no 3-seaters where all 3 seats shared a single skill. For the Maquis, 3 of the 4 three-seaters shared a common skill in all 3 seats and the 4th one had 2 seats with a skill in common.

    This gave a big advantage to anyone playing the Maquis shuttles when apply a skill boost helped all 3 seats.

    Yes.

    So, during the event, when someone is looking at the success rate they are unable to determine which faction is empirically the best (or favoured for rewards) because the effect of the free transmissions, at that point, is unknown. In this new modified 6 shuttle version people are also looking to see which is the second best faction.

    In some events it may be that the nature of the missions is likely to be the overriding factor that determines the winner. In others it is the rewards. In other events there will be no overriding factor. It is also possible that for some events the free transmissions may be the overriding factor.

    The point is that free transmissions may have an effect either directly or indirectly and that that effect may vary during an event. The solution is stunningly simple. Don't present event faction tokens prior to an event then it is not possible to affect the event.



    Actually as those give new players a lil start, the solution would not be to give no transmissions but to give equal transmissions from all involved factions.

    Have you noticed that during Faction Events that transmission threshold rewards are provided balanced in the way you suggest. Why would DB provide a pre-event gift from one faction only but then give equal transmissions from all involved factions as threshold rewards?
  • I like to use faction events to attempt to stock up on useful faction drops, like ancient films, holoprograms, medical and science experiments etc.
  • SMMSMM ✭✭✭
    Thankyou
  • I try to use the ones they give me throughout the event. After I run out of those and have to start by more missions, that's when I'll start buying them based on what items drop from the faction. This method lets me save merits and gets me a good amount of faction only items I need.
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