DO BETTER - Event Shuttle mission design failure with "AND" issue still in effect (no cmd+sec) slots
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It is sad that there are NO slots which "feature" the featured crew
no CMD and SEC ( as opposed to the 6 sec+cmd) slots or cmd+med for Kes.
with Killy and Kess being "CMD" Primary and SEC secondary... no slots are designed for these"featured" characters.
and before you look... no cmd+med slots either...
What we are left with are both sec+cmd or med+cmd slots which will frustrate players as the missiosn will show an INCORRECT % success for Killy or Kess slotted into either of them.
at least there are 2 slots which feature sec+dip for Audra...
I feel this is a failure of DB's part not to "mix some of these" up for variety, especially with the KNOWN/Proven issue with dispayed success rate differences on AND missions with swapped skills
no CMD and SEC ( as opposed to the 6 sec+cmd) slots or cmd+med for Kes.
with Killy and Kess being "CMD" Primary and SEC secondary... no slots are designed for these"featured" characters.
and before you look... no cmd+med slots either...
What we are left with are both sec+cmd or med+cmd slots which will frustrate players as the missiosn will show an INCORRECT % success for Killy or Kess slotted into either of them.
at least there are 2 slots which feature sec+dip for Audra...
I feel this is a failure of DB's part not to "mix some of these" up for variety, especially with the KNOWN/Proven issue with dispayed success rate differences on AND missions with swapped skills
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Some CMD only options but if you didn't know better, you might place her in the second sec AND cmd and lead to fails.
and i thought they they "Brought the information to thier developer team"
the research done was Pretty darn conclusive. either its calculated wrong, or displayed wrong... my bet is on displayed wrong.. which just creates frustration that high % displayed missions fail too often.
Sec AND Cmd
Eng AND Sec
Sec AND Dip
After that there hasn't been any confirmation if DB views this as a bug or not.
a 1/5 FE Killy has 755CMD and 540 SEC... (pre starbase/collection bonus)
in the CMD slot... she would have 3x755 = 2265 skill
in the SEC+CMD slot she would have 3x540+3x750x0.25= 2183
but compared to Kotar who is primary sec and secondary cmd?
at 1/5 he would be 493 cmd and 830 sec so 830x2+493x2x.025 = 1906
but being featured before.. likely FF so 1209x2+921x2x.025 = 2879 much better than Killy 1/5
the big problem is that the displayed percentage is wrong... which leads to frustration! if they displayed it right... for the correctly weighted skills... we could believe the numbers..
and to my original post....
there should have been SOME slots that actually were designed for the "new" "featured" crew.
so 0/3 on shuttle slots designed for the "featured crew"
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Ardra is SEC > DIP > ENG and there is a SEC + DIP slot on "Twice the Tilly".
I never mentioned Ardra... but to be honest.. there are two SEC+DIP slots which Ardra would fit for...
fourth slot for "Twice the Tilly" as you mentioned... as well as 3rd slot for "Methods of control"
so... i give them a 1/4... on the design of this events' shuttle missions.
1 "featured crew" with slots that "Feature their strength"
3 "new featured crew" with no slots that "Feature their strengths"
would that be fair?
Generally, I don't consider the 2* reward in evaluating how the event is designed. It isn't a 3x Featured bonus like the 4/5*s.
Trista
I think most (> 50%) of players don't level main event characters enough to be beneficial so maybe that's why you don't see a lot of missions for them.
I'm not sure about that! Isn't buying the packs and leveling main crew to get the 3x bonus a thing? It always has been for my fleet! It can make a huge difference! If you have somewhere to place them!
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If the event missions were designed first, then the cards should be designed around those missions.
If the cards and the event missions were designed concurrently, then there appears to be a serious lack of communication involved. Either that, or DB just enjoys negativity. 🖖🏻
From the April 30th Q&A (https://forum.disruptorbeam.com/stt/discussion/5164/q-a-with-admiral-prince-april-18#latest):
“How do you decide what traits and stars a crew has, especially the more subjective traits?
For traits this is a multi-person, multi-step process. A designer proposes traits, often considering other versions of that character. These are reviewed by our community team, other designers, QA, people very familiar with the episode or character, etc.
The star-rating for crew is totally different, however. That process starts when we need a crew who is X number of stars or they need to fit Y narrative. At that point, the narrative designers make suggestions and then we go back and forth on who it should be, and what version of that character. We then debate over whether that version of them is valid for whatever star level. Sometimes, we base that on their role in the episode, or how beloved they are by fans, or how that version compares to other potential versions. This process has lots of different inputs and operates quite differently from our process for traits.”
Exactly this. Each of the featured crew should have at least 1 slot (per faction) that is designed/intended for them - this is what "featured" implies. Otherwise, the event pack is really no different a themed crew pack that just happens to be offered during an event, and the threshold card is really just a nice participation trophy with minimal purpose.
Definitely the 3x bonus should be part of the event shuttles. However, so should all of the other 2x bonus crew that have been collected by everyone since they started. Otherwise, why collect if this week's crew is useless tomorrow. A balance is needed that definitely should include spots for both groups.
That being said, this event is now a beast with dozens of characters who qualify for bonuses so I am glad it's not my job to figure out the missions because it isn't an easy one.
Confirmation or no, surely the best practice would be to design the shuttle requirements to be "safe, rather than sorry" until they've managed to replicate the bug? (And how hard can that be, when they've already been told exactly what to look for?)
Considering that, this event design seems to be a really bad joke. Or is the plan that we should be their test subjects?
I try not to assume anything we it comes to development but if your philosophy is that there should only be "Or" or single option choices I think it would be doable. I am still not at the point in which I am upset at DB regarding a fix because I do consider this still a new issue. If this goes through the next Mega Event and there is no update I think we as a community have a right to be upset if there truly is a bug.
It's almost like they are trying to maximize the bug for the most players possible.
I love this comment but it gives Do Better too much credit. They’re really just continuing to cash in on a badly inefficient product...we all keep paying for a tire that will never ever ever hold air...as advertised. Wish my finances worked this way
IKR.
I'm seeing a lot of slots on Terran shuttles that are easy to fill with my limited crew of Klingons and Terrans, even taking the AND issue into account.
e.g. ENG & SEC --> Mirror Data, Mirror Tucker ... CMD & SEC --> Kortar or a whole host of Worfs or Martok ... ENG & SCI --> Mirror Geordi
There is only one slot where I'm using non-bonus crew every so often ... SCI, I use Kolos, but sometimes Surak.
For the Klingon shuttles ... I have more problems filling those with my crew in general so and just doing 100% Terran.