Man, it’s one thing to hate on the guy but now y’all are just making stuff up. All I said was he was a main character and in nearly every episode.
Uhhh... I don't think you've quite followed either of my comments. This seems to be my failing, not yours: I simply didn't anticipate that anyone could possibly take my original comment literally. In my mind, OF COURSE he was main cast and in just about every episode. That seemed so incredibly obvious to me that I thought my crack about him only being in four or five episodes (due to him being so rarely used) would be easily understood. Heck, there was even a little "smiley face" icon of some sort on the end, to make sure the comment was read as intended.
As you didn't follow the point, I explained it for you, by referencing every single scene from every single episode from all four years of Enterprise where I remember Mayweather having a role. But by the time I'd reached the end of that comment, I had already forgotten that you read everything completely literally, and added a joke about Mayweather being killed at the same time as Trip. To clarify: no, I do not really think that Mayweather was killed at the same time as Trip.
I have previewed this comment and examined it sentence by sentence, to make sure that it is completely literal. Hopefully we are now on the same page.
"Humor. It is a difficult concept. It is not logical."
Man, it’s one thing to hate on the guy but now y’all are just making stuff up. All I said was he was a main character and in nearly every episode.
Uhhh... I don't think you've quite followed either of my comments. This seems to be my failing, not yours: I simply didn't anticipate that anyone could possibly take my original comment literally. In my mind, OF COURSE he was main cast and in just about every episode. That seemed so incredibly obvious to me that I thought my crack about him only being in four or five episodes (due to him being so rarely used) would be easily understood. Heck, there was even a little "smiley face" icon of some sort on the end, to make sure the comment was read as intended.
As you didn't follow the point, I explained it for you, by referencing every single scene from every single episode from all four years of Enterprise where I remember Mayweather having a role. But by the time I'd reached the end of that comment, I had already forgotten that you read everything completely literally, and added a joke about Mayweather being killed at the same time as Trip. To clarify: no, I do not really think that Mayweather was killed at the same time as Trip.
I have previewed this comment and examined it sentence by sentence, to make sure that it is completely literal. Hopefully we are now on the same page.
"Humor. It is a difficult concept. It is not logical."
Well it certainly looked like you were commenting on something that you knew nothing about so I do apologize for that, but I do have to say, if the joke was actually funny perhaps I would have recognized it as such.
What ever happened to the bonus traits together with/instead of character crew bonuses? It actually made the bonus crew more diverse and more interesting. As opposed to Kira, Torres and Reed bonus, perhaps there could be a costumed bonus? I remember one event having an athlete bonus which brought a much more diverse crew into the event
What ever happened to the bonus traits together with/instead of character crew bonuses? It actually made the bonus crew more diverse and more interesting. As opposed to Kira, Torres and Reed bonus, perhaps there could be a costumed bonus? I remember one event having an athlete bonus which brought a much more diverse crew into the event
The trait-based event crews have been the exception, not the rule. Usually, they are used in events that would, otherwise, have an extremely small/narrow event crew.
See: Ghost in the Machine
In this case, it's a Galaxy event, so a large crew isn't really needed. You'll be using no more than 3-6 crewmembers for the entire event. Plus, Kira is one of the top characters in the game for number of variants available (7 total, 6 4*+). Add 3 Reeds and 4 Torres (again, 4*+) and you have 13 crew. Plenty for a Galaxy and covers all skills except MED.
Big fan of Enterprise, didn't like it first time around but I watched it all last year and it actually is rather good.
As for the lack of stories for Reed, Mayweather & Sato, they weren't in the triplet core group that all stories were based around. This was a similar approach to TOS and one that DS9 initially used as well.
With more seasons, maybe you could have gotten more episodes where the rest of the bridge crew could have done something more interesting in the central groups' orbit.
Big fan of Enterprise, didn't like it first time around but I watched it all last year and it actually is rather good.
As for the lack of stories for Reed, Mayweather & Sato, they weren't in the triplet core group that all stories were based around. This was a similar approach to TOS and one that DS9 initially used as well.
With more seasons, maybe you could have gotten more episodes where the rest of the bridge crew could have done something more interesting in the central groups' orbit.
Not really sure DS9 did that at all, they went full ensemble VERY quickly if they did.
I don't get the dislike for Reed - I liked his character - pehaps it was too British for you.
There is perhaps one main thing that should have been improved and that is some of the scripting, in particular when Reed took over the MACOs from Major Hayes in Season 3, the scripting was very crass there.
I am British and I didn’t like Reed as character. AND I agree scripting was bad in many episodes. Some were very good also.
The idea of Romulan interference in Vulcan was well hidden and explained lot of earlier disconnects.
I don't get the dislike for Reed - I liked his character - pehaps it was too British for you.
There is perhaps one main thing that should have been improved and that is some of the scripting, in particular when Reed took over the MACOs from Major Hayes in Season 3, the scripting was very crass there.
I am British and I didn’t like Reed as character. AND I agree scripting was bad in many episodes. Some were very good also.
The idea of Romulan interference in Vulcan was well hidden and explained lot of earlier disconnects.
Sorry I didn't mean to imply you had to be British to like the character i merely think this character like a great many characters were stereotyped by a popularised ilk of character. The reclusive stiff upper lipped military background may have been a bit too classicist and generally out dated but that's not to say you can't empathise / appreciate the character for who he is. That's really why I like the character.
And yes there were also some very good scripting as well - there would have had to be, other wise we would not be having this conversation.
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I never really card for Reed as a crew and Reed wanting to go on a date was always a bit creepy. I dunno he was anal retentive in a boring way. Sure he was good in a fight but that's expected of someone in his position.
Mayweather never got much chance to shine. Hoshi didn't have many episodes centered on her but she was necessary. Arguably she was the most important member of the crew since no one could really do what she does, so by default she got her chance to shine in small bits and pieces.
Folks are forgetting other Trek series had multiple seasons to showcase personality, skill and character depth. Considering the main Enterprise crew:
Archer: Test pilot and Engineer to Starship Capt. A fish out of water evolving his command skills as the seasons progressed.
Tucker: Maverick Engineer, a brash out spoken chap, also second in command after Archer.
T'Pol: a pre-corrected Surak teachings Vulcan, science officer diplomatic liaison and again another fish out water evolving thru the seasons.
Reed: Stiff upper lipped straight backed British military officer assigned as ship security chief. In that portrayal the actor did a superb job of conveying that.
Sato: Civilian linguistic genius enlisted by direct request of newly appointed Archer. Awkward, shy, stay at home type. Another out of her comfort zone.
Mayweather: Helmsman with a dash of Engineering, variety of sporting interests. More could have been donw with his character and probably would have had Enterprise persisted.
Phlox: Alien doctor assigned at short notice, one of the best characters among the main crew IMO. His episodes were always intriguing to see.
Overall, the castings were good choices, and portrayed their concepts well.
And it says a lot that this is the best you can think of to say about the "characters".
"second in command", "alien doctor" and "British military officer" really aren't "characters" in any meaningful sense. A person's job and/or cultural background isn't enough.
Compare that to people on DS9 such as Dukat or Kai Winn, neither of whom were regulars and were in far fewer episodes than any of the above, but you could easily write paragraphs about their characters that make the crew of Enterprise sound about as well-defined as something out of a children's fairytale.
And to keep on topic, this event sounds boring to me and I won't be playing. I think most people have enough CMD/SEC characters by now!
Edit: Just saw kira's 1/5 stats. Maybe I'll spend these thousands of chrons elsewhere...
She has a decent security proficiency. But the rest is indeed kinda meh for a recent legendary. So I will go for one copy in the event and that´s it. Stronger all around and I either would have attacked the event harder or bought some packs.
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Uhhh... I don't think you've quite followed either of my comments. This seems to be my failing, not yours: I simply didn't anticipate that anyone could possibly take my original comment literally. In my mind, OF COURSE he was main cast and in just about every episode. That seemed so incredibly obvious to me that I thought my crack about him only being in four or five episodes (due to him being so rarely used) would be easily understood. Heck, there was even a little "smiley face" icon of some sort on the end, to make sure the comment was read as intended.
As you didn't follow the point, I explained it for you, by referencing every single scene from every single episode from all four years of Enterprise where I remember Mayweather having a role. But by the time I'd reached the end of that comment, I had already forgotten that you read everything completely literally, and added a joke about Mayweather being killed at the same time as Trip. To clarify: no, I do not really think that Mayweather was killed at the same time as Trip.
I have previewed this comment and examined it sentence by sentence, to make sure that it is completely literal. Hopefully we are now on the same page.
"Humor. It is a difficult concept. It is not logical."
Well it certainly looked like you were commenting on something that you knew nothing about so I do apologize for that, but I do have to say, if the joke was actually funny perhaps I would have recognized it as such.
The trait-based event crews have been the exception, not the rule. Usually, they are used in events that would, otherwise, have an extremely small/narrow event crew.
See: Ghost in the Machine
In this case, it's a Galaxy event, so a large crew isn't really needed. You'll be using no more than 3-6 crewmembers for the entire event. Plus, Kira is one of the top characters in the game for number of variants available (7 total, 6 4*+). Add 3 Reeds and 4 Torres (again, 4*+) and you have 13 crew. Plenty for a Galaxy and covers all skills except MED.
As for the lack of stories for Reed, Mayweather & Sato, they weren't in the triplet core group that all stories were based around. This was a similar approach to TOS and one that DS9 initially used as well.
With more seasons, maybe you could have gotten more episodes where the rest of the bridge crew could have done something more interesting in the central groups' orbit.
Not really sure DS9 did that at all, they went full ensemble VERY quickly if they did.
I am British and I didn’t like Reed as character. AND I agree scripting was bad in many episodes. Some were very good also.
The idea of Romulan interference in Vulcan was well hidden and explained lot of earlier disconnects.
Sorry I didn't mean to imply you had to be British to like the character i merely think this character like a great many characters were stereotyped by a popularised ilk of character. The reclusive stiff upper lipped military background may have been a bit too classicist and generally out dated but that's not to say you can't empathise / appreciate the character for who he is. That's really why I like the character.
And yes there were also some very good scripting as well - there would have had to be, other wise we would not be having this conversation.
Mayweather never got much chance to shine. Hoshi didn't have many episodes centered on her but she was necessary. Arguably she was the most important member of the crew since no one could really do what she does, so by default she got her chance to shine in small bits and pieces.
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Oh yay... another two skill 5* SEC/CMD to keep my T’Kumquat company... 🙄🙄🙄
I’ll bite... which one of the Kira, Torres, Reed has SCI...
Eh, you're right, two skills missing. Still won't be the end of the world having a smaller event crew, though.
Now giving away DIL for free, however...
I like the art. Nice hat.
And it says a lot that this is the best you can think of to say about the "characters".
"second in command", "alien doctor" and "British military officer" really aren't "characters" in any meaningful sense. A person's job and/or cultural background isn't enough.
Compare that to people on DS9 such as Dukat or Kai Winn, neither of whom were regulars and were in far fewer episodes than any of the above, but you could easily write paragraphs about their characters that make the crew of Enterprise sound about as well-defined as something out of a children's fairytale.
And to keep on topic, this event sounds boring to me and I won't be playing. I think most people have enough CMD/SEC characters by now!
Needs royalty trait, like Princess Jadzia
Like the art..
Have every other version of Kira..
But 2 skill in a Full Galaxy..
Ouch.
She's nice..
Is she 5000/7000 Chronitons nice if this turns into a war..
Eecckkk..
Might have to wait two years to get her in a random pull down the line..
Thanks. Are the packs going live early too or just the notes?
From what she said before just the notes. Packs and other in game stuff will be a the usual time.
Edit: Just saw kira's 1/5 stats. Maybe I'll spend these thousands of chrons elsewhere...
She has a decent security proficiency. But the rest is indeed kinda meh for a recent legendary. So I will go for one copy in the event and that´s it. Stronger all around and I either would have attacked the event harder or bought some packs.