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  • Banjo1012Banjo1012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2018
    Banjo1012 wrote: »
    Yes I have a voyage load of DIP/MED. all but one adds SEC too (Moset adds science). I airlocked both my Guinans from gauntlet cuz I had no use for her. Stop the DIP/MED madness

    You really shouldn't type a sentence like this in polite company. There are about 90% of this forum that are pulling out their pitchforks and torches to drive you out of the castle. :o;)

    Both Caretakers too. But if it helps I never got a Locutus and that’s the one I would have kept. I’m going to immortalize him as soon as I hit that achievement

  • [7TW] UnkieB[7TW] UnkieB ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, I don't think I could get myself to airlock two of the top 15 voyage crew out there (always looking for better voyages). Do you just not like the characters (and only keep certain crew you're a fan of) or something??? Of course who am I kidding, I can't get myself to airlock any 4*'s (unless dupes) let alone 5's. ;)
  • Banjo1012Banjo1012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2018
    Wow, I don't think I could get myself to airlock two of the top 15 voyage crew out there (always looking for better voyages). Do you just not like the characters (and only keep certain crew you're a fan of) or something??? Of course who am I kidding, I can't get myself to airlock any 4*'s (unless dupes) let alone 5's. ;)

    I am very fan based in my playing. One thing is when it comes down to it, Whoopi Goldberg was on my crew. Ew! Another thing is at two stars each, I was looking at 300,000 honor to get them to the point of helping and even then it wasn’t much of a help to what I already had. It wasn’t worth 300,000 honor for a few extra points above what I already had to me. I have lots of crew with their skill sets. A much better boost would be to spend that honor on Captain Beverly. Huge boost with those skills. Or as I said Locutus when I get him cuz for some strange reason I’m seriously lacking in strong SEC/DIP crew.

  • [10F] Belle'Anna [10F] Belle'Anna ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2018
    I must admit I play a strategic game over collections but I do class Guinan and The Caretaker over many other for sheer statistical advantage, Guinan has DIP/MED to BRB and Katrina's MED/DIP, together with a gauntlet rating very high. Captain Beverley is not even on my radar; I'd have thought the recent Reverend Phlox would cover her usefulness quite readily and for a lot less honor. And the Caretaker has stats which are only close to Leonardo da Vinc's and he isn't that easy to get either!

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  • Banjo1012Banjo1012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2018
    I must admit I play a strategic game over collections but I do class Guinan and The Caretaker over many other for sheer statistical advantage, Guinan has DIP/MED to BRB and Katrina's MED/DIP, together with a gauntlet rating very high. Captain Beverley is not even on my radar; I'd have thought the recent Reverend Phlox would cover her usefulness quite readily and for a lot less honor. And the Caretaker has stats which are only close to Leonardo da Vinc's and he isn't that easy to get either!

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    But with Captain Bev, she is the only option besides Phlox. Guinan is a slight improvement over what I have. Bev is a HUGE improvement over, what, Bridge Officer Troi? If you have a voyage with COM, MED, or both, there’s at least two seats to fill with COM/MED. let’s say Bev’s stats are a total of 600 greater than Troi. Guinans stats are what, 100, maybe 200 greater than who I can put in her place? That is what I’m looking at

  • Banjo1012Banjo1012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just did the math on the Wiki. Guinan would be a 78 point increase over who I would put in that second seat on a voyage. Beverly is a 1152 point increase. Now you see my logic?
  • PolPol ✭✭✭
    You´ve airlocked the Caretaker? Who do you use with ENG in gauntlet? (Also, i want to cry)
  • Banjo1012Banjo1012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pol wrote: »
    You´ve airlocked the Caretaker? Who do you use with ENG in gauntlet? (Also, i want to cry)

    Tempted Data. I kept the caretaker for quite a few months. Believe me when I say I lost just as many matches with him as I have without him. Didn’t make any difference at all

  • PolPol ✭✭✭
    My tempted data is not working well for me... Every time ENG is the primary stat i get owned... hard :D
  • (HGH)Apollo(HGH)Apollo ✭✭✭✭✭
    Caretaker is amazing in gauntlet. Huge eng, sci, with some med. I won many matches with him until more and more people got him. But even then he is still the best.
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  • Captain_WhoCaptain_Who ✭✭✭✭✭
    To each their own. I Hate the Whindbag, but since I don't spend a hundred+ $$$ on each 5*, she's one of my better crew and excellent in the gauntlet. Caretaker is good ENG for me and also Stellar in the gauntlet, being my backup MED to the Whindbag.

    Now if only they'd make the gauntlet more reliable, and ranking have some value, instead of having every reason to AVOID ranking top 10.
  • Ishmael MarxIshmael Marx ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Banjo1012 , I understand your argument, and since you've made it clear in prior posts that you are selective about who you add to your crew (including, if I recall correctly, performing a substantial purge of 5* crew that didn't fit your criteria), I'll just echo Apollo's earlier point that it's nice that the game allows players to build their crew according to whatever structure they deem best for them.

    Personally, I am dreading the day (if it ever comes) when I have to decide whether to airlock a 6th copy of Locutus, Guinan, or Caretaker or start building a second one. For now, it's not an issue (3/5, 2/5, 3/5, respectively). I should probably qualify this by saying that "dreading" may be a bit of hyperbole - but it'll still be an interesting choice to make.
  • Banjo1012Banjo1012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Caretaker is amazing in gauntlet. Huge eng, sci, with some med. I won many matches with him until more and more people got him. But even then he is still the best.

    But I kept facing a wall of caretakers so I really had no advantage with a......caretaker
  • IvanstoneIvanstone ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2018
    Banjo1012 wrote: »
    Pol wrote: »
    You´ve airlocked the Caretaker? Who do you use with ENG in gauntlet? (Also, i want to cry)

    Tempted Data. I kept the caretaker for quite a few months. Believe me when I say I lost just as many matches with him as I have without him. Didn’t make any difference at all

    There is no substitute for the Caretaker. He utterly dominates ENG proficiency. No one comes close. On top of that he's a legitimate triple threat. He's been a huge boon in the gauntlet. Tempted Data is easily replaceable in the Gauntlet.

    Guinan is also great. There are other competitive crew but as a recurring character she might have additional use. And here she comes.
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  • Banjo1012 wrote: »
    Caretaker is amazing in gauntlet. Huge eng, sci, with some med. I won many matches with him until more and more people got him. But even then he is still the best.

    But I kept facing a wall of caretakers so I really had no advantage with a......caretaker

    Guinan I can understand. She used to be utterly unique, nowadays less so. Diplomacy skills are common in the game. She's good if she's FF but can easily be outshone if not. She's still top notch in the gauntlet though, and is a cool card to have.

    The Caretaker I understand less. He's got a unique skillset, matched only closely by Da Vinci, and has a fantastic voyage rating as well as being by far the best engineer for the gauntlet. Engineeeing is hard to come by, especially ombined with Medical skills. He's also currently available, unlike Guinan who currently needs honor to complete.

    I say this for the benefit of newer players who may be wondering what the discussion is about. I'd say, don't worry you didn't get Guinan, you can get by without her. The Caretaker, on the other hand, is probably worth chasing. I've got him 3/5,he goes into every gauntlet and almost every voyage. I will use honor on him if he leaves the gauntlet. I haven't bothered to FF Guinan and probably never will.
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  • Banjo1012Banjo1012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Perhaps I can go this route. Gauntlet doesnt really mean much to me. Certainly not enough to have my OCD disturbed by having two crew members at two stars on my roster
  • Paund SkummPaund Skumm ✭✭✭✭✭
    Banjo1012 wrote: »
    Caretaker is amazing in gauntlet. Huge eng, sci, with some med. I won many matches with him until more and more people got him. But even then he is still the best.

    But I kept facing a wall of caretakers so I really had no advantage with a......caretaker

    Guinan I can understand. She used to be utterly unique, nowadays less so. Diplomacy skills are common in the game. She's good if she's FF but can easily be outshone if not. She's still top notch in the gauntlet though, and is a cool card to have.

    The Caretaker I understand less. He's got a unique skillset, matched only closely by Da Vinci, and has a fantastic voyage rating as well as being by far the best engineer for the gauntlet. Engineeeing is hard to come by, especially ombined with Medical skills. He's also currently available, unlike Guinan who currently needs honor to complete.

    I say this for the benefit of newer players who may be wondering what the discussion is about. I'd say, don't worry you didn't get Guinan, you can get by without her. The Caretaker, on the other hand, is probably worth chasing. I've got him 3/5,he goes into every gauntlet and almost every voyage. I will use honor on him if he leaves the gauntlet. I haven't bothered to FF Guinan and probably never will.

    Sorry Banjo but I kind of agree with this almost to the letter. I got him now 4/5 recently and was tempted to cite him up except got my DaVinci to 5/5 instead hoping for more luck at Gantlet drops (which I finally got one after more than half a year). Those two on a Voyage brings your ENG and SCI to over 3000 and MED to 1000 only using two slots. I don’t give a toss about Gauntlet either except to hope for a final Caretaker and farm merits for my shuttles.

    Any legendary that we can get to 5/5 (or close) without using limited honour stays on my roster. Unfortunately, the Gauntlet ones also tend to be very high on the best Voyages crew list so I’ll likely do Locutus as he’s close to 2* from achievements... but it will have to wait until I buy my last Star for DIP beast Sato...
  • Banjo1012Banjo1012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Banjo1012 wrote: »
    Caretaker is amazing in gauntlet. Huge eng, sci, with some med. I won many matches with him until more and more people got him. But even then he is still the best.

    But I kept facing a wall of caretakers so I really had no advantage with a......caretaker

    Guinan I can understand. She used to be utterly unique, nowadays less so. Diplomacy skills are common in the game. She's good if she's FF but can easily be outshone if not. She's still top notch in the gauntlet though, and is a cool card to have.

    The Caretaker I understand less. He's got a unique skillset, matched only closely by Da Vinci, and has a fantastic voyage rating as well as being by far the best engineer for the gauntlet. Engineeeing is hard to come by, especially ombined with Medical skills. He's also currently available, unlike Guinan who currently needs honor to complete.

    I say this for the benefit of newer players who may be wondering what the discussion is about. I'd say, don't worry you didn't get Guinan, you can get by without her. The Caretaker, on the other hand, is probably worth chasing. I've got him 3/5,he goes into every gauntlet and almost every voyage. I will use honor on him if he leaves the gauntlet. I haven't bothered to FF Guinan and probably never will.

    Sorry Banjo but I kind of agree with this almost to the letter. I got him now 4/5 recently and was tempted to cite him up except got my DaVinci to 5/5 instead hoping for more luck at Gantlet drops (which I finally got one after more than half a year). Those two on a Voyage brings your ENG and SCI to over 3000 and MED to 1000 only using two slots. I don’t give a toss about Gauntlet either except to hope for a final Caretaker and farm merits for my shuttles.

    Any legendary that we can get to 5/5 (or close) without using limited honour stays on my roster. Unfortunately, the Gauntlet ones also tend to be very high on the best Voyages crew list so I’ll likely do Locutus as he’s close to 2* from achievements... but it will have to wait until I buy my last Star for DIP beast Sato...

    I can further my point by saying I am PLENTY good on MED. and yes. Cite Sato.
  • I had Guinan at 3/5 and cited her to 5/5 because she was and still is valuable to me. I haven't regretted it because I either have her on voyages or factions all day long, but hey that is just me.
  • Wildstar19Wildstar19 ✭✭✭✭
    Reading these posts makes me feel like I'm watching "Lifestyles of the rich and famous." How much money do you people dump into this game???? It's a giant sacrifice for me - which I have to debate over, whether to spend (and if I can spend) $10 on something extra like 10x10 premium packs. There should be different levels of playing: The rich and the not rich, lol. Well, that's life isn't it?
    Hurry up before those things eat Guy!
  • Banjo1012Banjo1012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Reading these posts makes me feel like I'm watching "Lifestyles of the rich and famous." How much money do you people dump into this game???? It's a giant sacrifice for me - which I have to debate over, whether to spend (and if I can spend) $10 on something extra like 10x10 premium packs. There should be different levels of playing: The rich and the not rich, lol. Well, that's life isn't it?

    Enough to buy a good car over the course of 2.5 years

  • Banjo1012 wrote: »
    Reading these posts makes me feel like I'm watching "Lifestyles of the rich and famous." How much money do you people dump into this game???? It's a giant sacrifice for me - which I have to debate over, whether to spend (and if I can spend) $10 on something extra like 10x10 premium packs. There should be different levels of playing: The rich and the not rich, lol. Well, that's life isn't it?

    Enough to buy a good car over the course of 2.5 years

    I'm more at the cheap car level :p
  • V.V. ✭✭✭✭
    my goal is to never hit vip 14. i've been on 12sies for over a year now. when tempted to buy something i remember my goal (and poverty).
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  • SSR BarkleySSR Barkley ✭✭✭✭✭
    JazzRiker wrote: »
    It’s finally time.........................………

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    I... I want this crew so badly. What would you want her skills to be?

    be a champion for us, sir!
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  • Banjo1012Banjo1012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Banjo1012 wrote: »
    Reading these posts makes me feel like I'm watching "Lifestyles of the rich and famous." How much money do you people dump into this game???? It's a giant sacrifice for me - which I have to debate over, whether to spend (and if I can spend) $10 on something extra like 10x10 premium packs. There should be different levels of playing: The rich and the not rich, lol. Well, that's life isn't it?

    Enough to buy a good car over the course of 2.5 years

    I'm more at the cheap car level :p

    A pinto perhaps? The Garthmobile would rock!
  • JazzRiker wrote: »
    It’s finally time.........................………

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    I... I want this crew so badly. What would you want her skills to be?

    DIP / SCI / MED makes the most sense. I'm more curious about the resulting trait list, however.
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  • Excuse me, I came here for the holodeck thread. How many pages has this other discussion been going on for?
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