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  • jestergeniejestergenie ✭✭✭
    edited December 2018
    Ivlain wrote: »
    Does DB ever run the 4th shuttle on sale? 2500 Dil is quite a bit when you don't purchase dilithium.

    Never, as far as I can recall. But it's fully worth it at full price if you want to have any chance at ranking well in Faction events.

    I haven't spent a dime on this game and I don't intend to. You can get this 4th shuttle for free. It took me about 7-8 months to do it. Actually I could get there much faster if I would decide to immortalize clones, I guess. You should also know that this fourth shuttle is not that important for Faction Events. You can have three shuttles and still be quite competitive, i.e. get to top 1500.
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    ALeeRocks wrote: »
    Now I am sure everyone can debate this issue of crew slots any way they want, but I think everyone is in agreement that 3K dilithium for 5 crew slots is ridiculously expensive. So considering that 50% crew slot sales only make this excessive price barely acceptable, this lack of any holiday sale feels like a slap in the face...

    So 8 days ago, DB offered 2 "For Honor" specials that exchanged Honor for 1 or 10x Premium Packs which looked especially attractive to F2P, monthly card, and/or limited spenders who grinded away to accumulate Honor. But now as that first round of Premium Packs(s) approaches it 7-day automatic dismissal deadline for DB not to offer any sort of crew slot sale feels almost mean-spirited when we should be celebrating joyous Holiday times. Offering special deals for more crew without providing any special deals to increase crew capacity is definitely not nice and not going to increase players' desire to spend more when this feels like more greed.

    Of course, we can discuss better crew planning and management until we are blue in the face, but no one is arguing that buying extra crew slots is cheap so expecting a Holiday sale on crew slots is not unreasonable at all.

    I've played a few different games around Christmas, and this one is by far the most frugal when it comes to holiday gifts

    {Cough} Battle Pirates{/Cough}

    But this is a close match this year......
    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
  • FetaroFetaro ✭✭✭
    edited December 2018
    WaldoMag wrote: »
    Yes, but the dil offer today, makes me think those people are right about a crew slot offer coming.

    I really thought with discovery megaevent the crew slot sale would happen.

    They did state they don't (anymore) announce the crew slots sales deals in advance. A pattern suggest the crew slots sale deal will appear very soon, as they just had a very good deal on dilithium.
  • The five purples who didn't make the cut. I added 3 golds at 1/5, a third star on Merry Man Worf, 4 purples on 2/4, a couple of stars on existing purples and 6 new 1/4 purples which were all more interesting than these five. Also finished a couple of blues and binned a load of blues and purples I already immortalised.

    With the impending end of the countdown timer and the fact I want to get Demora Sulu up to high level for the event tonight I had to be a bit brutal freezing and airlocking crew.
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  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fetaro wrote: »
    WaldoMag wrote: »
    Yes, but the dil offer today, makes me think those people are right about a crew slot offer coming.

    I really thought with discovery megaevent the crew slot sale would happen.

    They did state they don't (anymore) announce the crew slots sales deals in advance. A pattern suggest the crew slots sale deal will appear very soon, as they just had a very good deal on dilithium.

    I'm hopeful. I kept enough from the Dil Deal to get ten Slots, if half price. Plus some left over.
    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
  • Commander SinclairCommander Sinclair ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2018
    Fetaro wrote: »
    WaldoMag wrote: »
    Yes, but the dil offer today, makes me think those people are right about a crew slot offer coming.

    I really thought with discovery megaevent the crew slot sale would happen.

    They did state they don't (anymore) announce the crew slots sales deals in advance. A pattern suggest the crew slots sale deal will appear very soon, as they just had a very good deal on dilithium.

    Maybe around the time of the new Discovery Mega in February we will get the offer, since you know that month will be heavy on new crew.

    One can only hope...
    I want to become a Dilionaire...
  • Captain_WhoCaptain_Who ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fetaro wrote: »
    WaldoMag wrote: »
    Yes, but the dil offer today, makes me think those people are right about a crew slot offer coming.

    I really thought with discovery megaevent the crew slot sale would happen.

    They did state they don't (anymore) announce the crew slots sales deals in advance. A pattern suggest the crew slots sale deal will appear very soon, as they just had a very good deal on dilithium.

    Maybe around the time of the new Discovery Mega in February we will get the offer, since you know that month will be heavy on new crew.

    One can only hope...

    I would normally be quite sure Febs STD mega would come with a slot sale.
    But since Tipping Point took control, the usual patterns no longer apply, though the original stinginess mostly still does.
  • AviTrekAviTrek ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looking at these daily offers, I'm going to predict DB will offer something like 10 crew slots for $25. For people spending dollars on dil, it'll be a great offer and people will jump at it. But if you used a monthly card to save up your dil for a crew slot sale or you saved your achievement dil for the slot sale, you'll be stuck with nothing.
  • KanonKanon ✭✭✭✭✭
    AviTrek wrote: »
    But if you used a monthly card to save up your dil for a crew slot sale or you saved your achievement dil for the slot sale, you'll be stuck with nothing.

    That would be me.
  • Bylo BandBylo Band ✭✭✭✭✭
    AviTrek wrote: »
    Looking at these daily offers, I'm going to predict DB will offer something like 10 crew slots for $25. For people spending dollars on dil, it'll be a great offer and people will jump at it. But if you used a monthly card to save up your dil for a crew slot sale or you saved your achievement dil for the slot sale, you'll be stuck with nothing.

    You'll be stuck with a mountain of dilithium. I am told that that is a useful thing to have.
  • Bylo BandBylo Band ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kanon wrote: »
    ByloBand wrote: »
    You'll be stuck with a mountain of dilithium. I am told that that is a useful thing to have.
    It's useful to get more characters, but without the crew space, is useless.

    Respectfully, I must disagree emphatically.
  • AviTrekAviTrek ✭✭✭✭✭
    ByloBand wrote: »
    Kanon wrote: »
    ByloBand wrote: »
    You'll be stuck with a mountain of dilithium. I am told that that is a useful thing to have.
    It's useful to get more characters, but without the crew space, is useless.

    Respectfully, I must disagree emphatically.

    I've been sitting on DIL already because a portal will likely either be honor or a 1/4 that I won't have space for. Crew slots I have use for, DIL will sit there for months until a random Tuesday pack shows up without any FF crew.
  • Thorozar Thorozar ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2018
    ByloBand wrote: »
    Kanon wrote: »
    ByloBand wrote: »
    You'll be stuck with a mountain of dilithium. I am told that that is a useful thing to have.
    It's useful to get more characters, but without the crew space, is useless.

    Respectfully, I must disagree emphatically.

    I don't get that. Not everyone has 200 spaces or whatever. It isn't as easy as just freezing crew if your roster has a lot of 1/4s. And yes, I know you and airlock some, but then to turn around and buy packs for what? To get more 1/4s, or the ones you just airlocked? Junk 1/5s? All of that takes spaces. It is a big revolving door at the crew space he is at. If you win the SR lottery in packs or voyages you can get them finished and frozen for use in subsequent events, otherwise you are in his situation.
  • Thorozar Thorozar ✭✭✭✭
    AviTrek wrote: »
    ByloBand wrote: »
    AviTrek wrote: »
    ByloBand wrote: »
    Kanon wrote: »
    ByloBand wrote: »
    You'll be stuck with a mountain of dilithium. I am told that that is a useful thing to have.
    It's useful to get more characters, but without the crew space, is useless.

    Respectfully, I must disagree emphatically.

    I've been sitting on DIL already because a portal will likely either be honor or a 1/4 that I won't have space for. Crew slots I have use for, DIL will sit there for months until a random Tuesday pack shows up without any FF crew.
    Kanon wrote: »
    ByloBand wrote: »
    Respectfully, I must disagree emphatically.
    I understand that there is more uses for Dil, but everything is towards the goal to get more and better characters. The problem is when crew space is so limited, that expending dillithium becomes a problem: I can't buy packs 'cause I'm 143/135 in my quarters, extending voyages is pointless unless I can garantee that I'll get more stars for my characters instead of new crew, I don't feel the need to spend on events to rank higher and get more crew for the same reason, and so on. The only useful thing I can get right now with my dillithium is crew space, but I consider 3k for 5 spots very umbalanced, and that's why I wait the sale (1500 is what I consider a fair price)
    Thorozar wrote: »
    ByloBand wrote: »
    Kanon wrote: »
    ByloBand wrote: »
    You'll be stuck with a mountain of dilithium. I am told that that is a useful thing to have.
    It's useful to get more characters, but without the crew space, is useless.

    Respectfully, I must disagree emphatically.

    I don't get that. Not everyone has 200 spaces or whatever. It isn't as easy as just freezing crew if your roster has a lot of 1/4s. And yes, I know you and airlock some, but then to turn around and buy packs for what? To get more 1/4s, or the ones you just airlocked? Junk 1/5s? All of that takes spaces. It is a big revolving door at the crew space he is at. If you win the SR lottery in packs or voyages you can get them finished and frozen for use in subsequent events, otherwise you are in his situation.

    Respectfully, I must disagree emphatically. We can keep going around and around and around, but it all basically comes back to that. Dilithium has near limitless uses. I have read the forums, I understand Kanon that you've had a rough go of things, but you are so locked in on your recent struggles that you have lost sight of the big picture.

    You've identified quite thoroughly that buying crew packs is not a good idea, well done. Thorozar, excellent memory by correctly stating that I have 200/200 crew slots currently, and that yes making room for me is not tough, I simply shove a FE/FF SR into the freezer if I need a spot back, but would it surprise you to learn that I currently have 18 unclaimed 10x Premium Pack pulls because I don't have room for additional crew either? Trust me, I get it. This issue may have started off about crew slots, but the last handful or so replies have morphed this into a discussion about dilithium, and the quote that started it all off was Kanon who said in response to my line about how a mountain of dilithium is very useful, and I quote, "It's useful to get more characters, but without the crew space, is useless."

    The conversation has now at least briefly shifted into the usefulness of dilithium, and there is absolutely no way you can say it is useless even if your crew slots are full. Yes, you probably should not buy crew packs, but it does other things. You can buy boost packs; I buy these regularly. You can buy additional cadet challenge tickets; I do this almost daily, especially on specific days to farm up hard-to-acquire components. You can refresh Gauntlet crew to chase rank/streaks; I do not do this often, but I have a few times. You can buy faction transmissions; I have not done this as I have a similarly huge mountain of merits, but if you are merit starved and have excess dilithium, this is a great option for you. You can buy supply kits; I have no need currently, but I use supply kits all the time and would not hesitate to buy one with dilithium if I needed one. You can extend voyages; I think most people do this, but it is a great way to farm up honor, chronitons, and 2* components. You can buy additional shuttle bays; I'm guessing you may have done this already, but it is still a very important use for dilithium for those who have not. You can buy additional dabo wheel spins. You can buy additional Arena tickets. You can buy chronitons. You can buy additional starbase donations. You can speed up shuttle missions. You can speed up voyage return times. You can buy additional scans. You can buy credits. And yes, you can even buy +5 crew slots; you may consider the cost too steep, but it can be done.

    If you take a limited view of playing the game, you will see limited solutions to your problems. I did not write all of this to start a fight, make enemies, etc, but to try and get you to take a deep breath and realize that things are going to be OK. This game has many facets and while yes it is essentially a crew collecting game, there is a whole lot more to it, and maybe it is time to take a break and realize you can set different goals and still have an enjoyable experience :)

    If the best argument you can make is buying arena tickets, scans, and credits then you've proved the point that there is 0 reason to buy DIL.

    And it may have been phrased poorly, but my original point was that you'd be left without any holiday offers that you can make use of. And that is still true even if you want to argue that converting DIL to arena tickets and scans is anything more than throwing away DIL.

    Yea I agree. Extra cadet tickets yes is a good use of dil, extending a voyage can be. The main use of dil is packs however, and lacking slots or a bevy of easily frozen crew, then no, dil will just sit there. If we believe a slot sale is coming in the near future then these dil offers are of use. Otherwise they are throwing away money for the most part.
  • KanonKanon ✭✭✭✭✭
    ByloBand wrote: »
    If you take a limited view of playing the game, you will see limited solutions to your problems. I did not write all of this to start a fight, make enemies, etc, but to try and get you to take a deep breath and realize that things are going to be OK. This game has many facets and while yes it is essentially a crew collecting game, there is a whole lot more to it, and maybe it is time to take a break and realize you can set different goals and still have an enjoyable experience :)

    You won't make an enemy here :smile:

    I get what you are saying, but most of the cases you listed for dillithium are not an option for "not new" players (like arena tickets, I don't even have a use for the 10 daily tickets), way too expensive considering the alternatives (use instead of merits, or waiting), and some are just other ways to get more characters (like Dabo spins, that also get very, very expensive very very soon). Maybe is that we are in different places, I'm "almost" free to play, I just buy the monthly card, so using 100 or so dillithium in anything that can be avoided, or has any other alternative is insane, even if I'm stockpiling 5k dillithium at the moment.
  • Bylo BandBylo Band ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kanon wrote: »
    ByloBand wrote: »
    If you take a limited view of playing the game, you will see limited solutions to your problems. I did not write all of this to start a fight, make enemies, etc, but to try and get you to take a deep breath and realize that things are going to be OK. This game has many facets and while yes it is essentially a crew collecting game, there is a whole lot more to it, and maybe it is time to take a break and realize you can set different goals and still have an enjoyable experience :)

    You won't make an enemy here :smile:

    I get what you are saying, but most of the cases you listed for dillithium are not an option for "not new" players (like arena tickets, I don't even have a use for the 10 daily tickets), way too expensive considering the alternatives (use instead of merits, or waiting), and some are just other ways to get more characters (like Dabo spins, that also get very, very expensive very very soon). Maybe is that we are in different places, I'm "almost" free to play, I just buy the monthly card, so using 100 or so dillithium in anything that can be avoided, or has any other alternative is insane, even if I'm stockpiling 5k dillithium at the moment.

    I do consider buying extra cadet tickets hugely beneficial. I would be happy to walk you through which days and missions it works best for.
  • robownagerobownage ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2018
    AviTrek wrote: »
    ByloBand wrote: »
    AviTrek wrote: »
    ByloBand wrote: »
    Kanon wrote: »
    ByloBand wrote: »
    You'll be stuck with a mountain of dilithium. I am told that that is a useful thing to have.
    It's useful to get more characters, but without the crew space, is useless.

    Respectfully, I must disagree emphatically.

    I've been sitting on DIL already because a portal will likely either be honor or a 1/4 that I won't have space for. Crew slots I have use for, DIL will sit there for months until a random Tuesday pack shows up without any FF crew.
    Kanon wrote: »
    ByloBand wrote: »
    Respectfully, I must disagree emphatically.
    I understand that there is more uses for Dil, but everything is towards the goal to get more and better characters. The problem is when crew space is so limited, that expending dillithium becomes a problem: I can't buy packs 'cause I'm 143/135 in my quarters, extending voyages is pointless unless I can garantee that I'll get more stars for my characters instead of new crew, I don't feel the need to spend on events to rank higher and get more crew for the same reason, and so on. The only useful thing I can get right now with my dillithium is crew space, but I consider 3k for 5 spots very umbalanced, and that's why I wait the sale (1500 is what I consider a fair price)
    Thorozar wrote: »
    ByloBand wrote: »
    Kanon wrote: »
    ByloBand wrote: »
    You'll be stuck with a mountain of dilithium. I am told that that is a useful thing to have.
    It's useful to get more characters, but without the crew space, is useless.

    Respectfully, I must disagree emphatically.

    I don't get that. Not everyone has 200 spaces or whatever. It isn't as easy as just freezing crew if your roster has a lot of 1/4s. And yes, I know you and airlock some, but then to turn around and buy packs for what? To get more 1/4s, or the ones you just airlocked? Junk 1/5s? All of that takes spaces. It is a big revolving door at the crew space he is at. If you win the SR lottery in packs or voyages you can get them finished and frozen for use in subsequent events, otherwise you are in his situation.

    Respectfully, I must disagree emphatically. We can keep going around and around and around, but it all basically comes back to that. Dilithium has near limitless uses. I have read the forums, I understand Kanon that you've had a rough go of things, but you are so locked in on your recent struggles that you have lost sight of the big picture.

    You've identified quite thoroughly that buying crew packs is not a good idea, well done. Thorozar, excellent memory by correctly stating that I have 200/200 crew slots currently, and that yes making room for me is not tough, I simply shove a FE/FF SR into the freezer if I need a spot back, but would it surprise you to learn that I currently have 18 unclaimed 10x Premium Pack pulls because I don't have room for additional crew either? Trust me, I get it. This issue may have started off about crew slots, but the last handful or so replies have morphed this into a discussion about dilithium, and the quote that started it all off was Kanon who said in response to my line about how a mountain of dilithium is very useful, and I quote, "It's useful to get more characters, but without the crew space, is useless."

    The conversation has now at least briefly shifted into the usefulness of dilithium, and there is absolutely no way you can say it is useless even if your crew slots are full. Yes, you probably should not buy crew packs, but it does other things. You can buy boost packs; I buy these regularly. You can buy additional cadet challenge tickets; I do this almost daily, especially on specific days to farm up hard-to-acquire components. You can refresh Gauntlet crew to chase rank/streaks; I do not do this often, but I have a few times. You can buy faction transmissions; I have not done this as I have a similarly huge mountain of merits, but if you are merit starved and have excess dilithium, this is a great option for you. You can buy supply kits; I have no need currently, but I use supply kits all the time and would not hesitate to buy one with dilithium if I needed one. You can extend voyages; I think most people do this, but it is a great way to farm up honor, chronitons, and 2* components. You can buy additional shuttle bays; I'm guessing you may have done this already, but it is still a very important use for dilithium for those who have not. You can buy additional dabo wheel spins. You can buy additional Arena tickets. You can buy chronitons. You can buy additional starbase donations. You can speed up shuttle missions. You can speed up voyage return times. You can buy additional scans. You can buy credits. And yes, you can even buy +5 crew slots; you may consider the cost too steep, but it can be done.

    If you take a limited view of playing the game, you will see limited solutions to your problems. I did not write all of this to start a fight, make enemies, etc, but to try and get you to take a deep breath and realize that things are going to be OK. This game has many facets and while yes it is essentially a crew collecting game, there is a whole lot more to it, and maybe it is time to take a break and realize you can set different goals and still have an enjoyable experience :)

    If the best argument you can make is buying arena tickets, scans, and credits then you've proved the point that there is 0 reason to buy DIL.

    And it may have been phrased poorly, but my original point was that you'd be left without any holiday offers that you can make use of. And that is still true even if you want to argue that converting DIL to arena tickets and scans is anything more than throwing away DIL.

    He literally listed 17 different options, but sure, focus on those ones. Although even there, someone might have a legitimate reason to spend that money - maybe they're really close to hitting a personal achievement in the arena and just need an extra ticket or two. Maybe they're waiting for Saturday to roll back around and desperately need credits to finish off an event character so they can perform better. Maybe they can only log in once during the day, so they pay for that extra scan to hit their daily achievements.

    And to your point about these specific holiday offers, you could always buy the offer and not actually open the packs right away. Heck, maybe that purchase sends you to another level and gives you a few more crew slots.
  • After 15*10 crew offer we need some free crew slots and a crew slot sale for sure...
  • Chiming in in favor of a crew slot sale. Monthly card player here, so I have to be picky about my dil use, and 3K for 5 slots is just too much. I can understand why DB wouldn't want to do away with the limits entirely, but I do think that DB is shooting itself in the foot by being so strict about this.
  • ThurthoradThurthorad ✭✭✭✭✭
    The *Primary* use of dil as highlighted by a recent poll and which should be obvious to everyone is buying more crew. It is a crew collecting game. All of the other other uses, whilst valid are, not equivalent to this use and those of you who are putting forward the argument that they are are being disingenuous.

    I, like many others, consider using dil on anything else as borderline wasteful, though I've definitely done small amounts of each myself from time to time. I am not affected by a crew slot squeeze like many others because I bought a lot of crew slots the last time, but I have enormous sympathy for their position. Why do DB have to treat this type of situation so adversarially. They could just give us a timetable for these things, instead they are trying to manipulate is into spending money inefficiently.
  • Aldude wrote: »
    100 slots, and 56 of them are gold.

    I could really do with 5 more slots.

    I have 85 of 90 slots filled with 1 gold...perhaps I am too airlock happy, ;)
  • KanonKanon ✭✭✭✭✭
    Aldude wrote: »
    100 slots, and 56 of them are gold.

    I could really do with 5 more slots.

    I have 85 of 90 slots filled with 1 gold...perhaps I am too airlock happy, ;)
    Maybe you are. I was told to never airlock legendaries, but them being over 30% of characters in the game, it seems crazy to try to keep up with all of them (specially if the chances to immortalize are near zero)
  • Kanon wrote: »
    I was told to never airlock legendaries, but them being over 30% of characters in the game, it seems crazy to try to keep up with all of them (specially if the chances to immortalize are near zero)

    My thoughts too. I have 20/100 slots filled with golds, 7 FFFE from mega events, 1 4/5 (Cornwall), 2 3/5 (Kortar and Merry Man Worf) and 10 1/5 major characters. I will have a month before I need to claim Prince Bashir with the second copy in mail. The rest are strong purples, a whole load of 3/4 purples from events and some blues and greens for cadets.

    Golds are so hard to complete that I just work on the megas, and any that I happen to get 2 copies of, culling the rest according to how strong they are and how major the characters are. The recent packs for honour netted me the third copy of Merry Worf, and singles of Admiral Janeway, Judge Q and The Prophet. All three are worthy enough to hang onto I think...
  • ImoklesImokles ✭✭✭
    So no crew slot sale has happened over the holiday season. What are your thoughts on when it will finally happen? Maybe with the next mega?
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