Next Mega recurring - DIP Primary PLEASE!
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Let me preface by saying I'm a mid-level spender. $20 to $40 a month, at most, depending on the offer. That means even after nearly two and a half years playing this game, my top BASE in each skill is an immortalized MEGA character. I've been here since the very first mega event, and Borg Queen, to this day, is my highest base CMD. Basically, I've got them all.
Here are my highest base scores, with my bonuses:
CMD - Borg Queen - 1407
ENG - Ru'afo - 1539
SEC - Kortar - 1366
MED - Bell Riots Bashir -1350
SCI - Surak - 1378
Where is DIP, you might ask? It's here:
Yes, I know Minuet was DIP primary, and her proficiency is amazing. But isn't it a shame, after TWELVE mega-events, that the highest DIP score is a MED primary, and it's 1185 with my bonuses. Compared to the others, that's just... lacking. My second highest, Etana Jol, is an ENG primary. That's just not fair to the concept of the Mega.
To summarize: YES, I know DIP is a very common skill, and all of us have plenty of it. Even I have 12 characters with a base DIP over 1000. All I'm saying is that it would be nice to have a Mega character with DIP primary and a high base. Just because it's about time we did.
EDIT: Yes, I should work on immortalizing Zhiantara Odo. I just had some 4/5 legendaries that I couldn't resist using my citations on. Odo is currently at 2/5. I also have Admiral Kirk at 2/5.
Here are my highest base scores, with my bonuses:
CMD - Borg Queen - 1407
ENG - Ru'afo - 1539
SEC - Kortar - 1366
MED - Bell Riots Bashir -1350
SCI - Surak - 1378
Where is DIP, you might ask? It's here:
Yes, I know Minuet was DIP primary, and her proficiency is amazing. But isn't it a shame, after TWELVE mega-events, that the highest DIP score is a MED primary, and it's 1185 with my bonuses. Compared to the others, that's just... lacking. My second highest, Etana Jol, is an ENG primary. That's just not fair to the concept of the Mega.
To summarize: YES, I know DIP is a very common skill, and all of us have plenty of it. Even I have 12 characters with a base DIP over 1000. All I'm saying is that it would be nice to have a Mega character with DIP primary and a high base. Just because it's about time we did.
EDIT: Yes, I should work on immortalizing Zhiantara Odo. I just had some 4/5 legendaries that I couldn't resist using my citations on. Odo is currently at 2/5. I also have Admiral Kirk at 2/5.
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My reasoning for not a DIP prime for next mega character: DIP is the most common primary skill in this game, so I don’t think most people are actually aching for it. Especially when in 5 of the mega eventers, DIP is a strong secondary skill. Here’s how they all break down:
Borg Qu Cm 1234, Dp 892, En 660
Kortar Se 1209, Cm 921, Dp 404
T’Kuvma Cm 1096, Se 962
M Picard Cm 1042, Se 982, Sc 583
Cornwell Md 1186, Dp 1049, Se 594
Surak Sc 1209, Dp 717, Cm 403
BR Bashir Md 1195, Dp 847, Se 585
Ru’afo En 1362, Cm 757, Sc 506
Minuet Dp 952, Cm 911
Etana En 1174, Dp 1016, Sc 399
Kol of HK Se 1139, Cm 953, Dp 521
Thrax Se 1134, Cm 1012, Dp 436
Captain of the voyage vessels: Queen of Bashir, Landsknecht, and Sunspear, the first luxury starship cruiseliners.
Amenities include wifi, fully-functioning holodecks, a full-service bar, 3 party decks, a Trill spa, and a business centre.
Fun fact: The ships are propelled by bouncy castle technology.
Next time we have a Disco mega they could give us the perfect Medgineering crew. Jett Reno, maybe with ENG, MED and CMD (or SCI I suppose) or something like that...
It’s easy for whales to pop in and say they have plenty of strong DIP crew, but I’m saying that as a low to medium spender, the fact that after twelve mega events my best DIP is still Cornwell, and that’s silly, as she’s a MED primary anyway.
Please understand I’m not talking about overall, I’m talking about within the context I outlined.
I may use 2 citations to get a gold over 1000. I would appreciate a dip.
How bout we compromise and say have a Mega event with a doctor theme but give the recurring heavy DIP cuz they have a great bedside manner?
Banjo, you’ve always been good to me. All I want for Mega-mas is my best DIP character to actually be a DIP primary, and to have a base score in the 1300s after bonuses. Maybe I should have put my last three legendary citations toward Zhiantara Odo instead of my existing 4/5 legendaries, eh? I just know that when I do, that’s when they’ll do what I’m asking for. #utopiaproblems
Oh I hope we do get Ob, I will also unashamedly say he was quite a handsome man
Captain of the voyage vessels: Queen of Bashir, Landsknecht, and Sunspear, the first luxury starship cruiseliners.
Amenities include wifi, fully-functioning holodecks, a full-service bar, 3 party decks, a Trill spa, and a business centre.
Fun fact: The ships are propelled by bouncy castle technology.
I think people understand your point, but what we (I'll lump myself in there too) are saying is that this seems like a solution without a problem.
You’ve been good to me as well and I meant no disrespect. I guess it’s just easy to see your own little world and not others. You did the right thing with the citations. Instead of improving one crew member you improved three and that will help you much more. Keep rockin my friend. You know what you’re doing and again, I meant no disrespect
My med is notoriously lacking in crew.
Please tell me you understand that bragging about your DIP crew is literally the exact opposite of the spirit of this post.
Baseball players are often compared using the idea of 5 tools: hitting for average, hitting for power, speed, defense, and arm strength. In modern baseball there is almost a 6th tool, that being specialization (ie closers, designated hitting, spot relievers, etc).
As we know, STT has 6 tools/skills also, and like baseball they are not equal: Command, Diplomacy, Security, Engineering, Science, and Medicine.
Any good baseball team needs a few strong defensive players (Science), a few players with strong throwing arms (Security), a few power hitters (Command), a few players with good baserunning speed (Engineering), and a few good specialists (Medicine), but with few exceptions everyone is expected to hit for average (Diplomacy).
In other words, for most characters Diplomacy is just a part of doing business or part of their job, but they all have other jobs that come first. It is sort of like Diplomacy by committee, and you can see that in voyage stats. Whenever Diplomacy is the primary stat you can just fill the seats normally and you'll end up with a default Diplomacy score that is going to be really good with no effort. This cannot be said for the other skills. This is just like the baseball analogy above, no matter how you form your lineup, you'll always get a team that can hit for average, because without that ability players would not be on the team in the first place.
Let's simplify it. If you disregard all other crew except the 12 mega event crew, and compare their primary base stats as I showed...
Borg Queen CMD 1234, DIP 892, ENG 660
Kortar SEC 1209, CMD 921, DIP 404
T’Kuvma CMD 1096, SEC 962
Mirror Picard CMD 1042, SEC 982, SCI 583
Prisoner Cornwell MED 1186, DIP 1049, SEC 594
Surak SCI 1209, DIP 717, CMD 403
Bell Riots Bashir MED 1195, DIP 847, SEC 585
Ru’afo ENG 1362, CMD 757, SCI 506
Minuet DIP 952, CMD 911
Etana Jol ENG 1174, DIP 1016, SCI 399
Kol of House Kor SEC 1139, CMD 953, DIP 521
Thrax SEC 1134, CMD 1012, DIP 436
*** Thank you Lady GaghGagh for posting the stats. ***
Yes, a lot of them have DIP as a secondary, or in Minuet's case, primary. But there is a "heavy hitter" with a high base in each field except DIP. The highest DIP, as I mentioned, is Cornwell, but it's her secondary skill.
SEC and CMD are obviously the favorites. On the other hand, there is only one SCI primary and one DIP primary. However, while Surak has a super-high base SCI, DIP does not.
I find DIP to be the most "deficient" when compared to the base stats of all MEGA characters.
To that end, my friends, and for the last time. This is NOT about what you have, NOR what you need. This is about what they have done so far, and where I believe they should go next.
And if you’re going to, at least make it something to write home about
Love it. I just wish you had two of the hot Hoshi Sato instead of two of the ugly ones. Meanwhile, are all the best diplomats women or are you just a fan?
Well, here’s the next two sets. I really don’t know who are the top DIP in the game, but it appears I, um, well, um,.....
10 Best Base DIP...
Professor Sato
Humbled Archer
Zhian'tara Odo
Admiral Kirk
Human Torres
Chancellor L'Rel
Harcourt Fenton Mudd
Chancellor Gorkon
UFP President Ra-ghoratreii
Bridge Officer Number One
10 Best Combined Average (Base+Prof) DIP...
Mambo Picard
Martian Quark
Stranded Quark
Smitten Jean-Luc Picard
Bridge Officer Number One
Professor Sato
Interfaced La Forge
Virtuoso Doctor
Senator Vreenak
Inglatu
One wrinkle is that CMD hasn't been the featured primary in quite some time, so a case could be made for that as well. (Newer players may lack the Queen, T'Kuvma, or Gunshow Picard, so they could reasonably desire a new CMD card.)
Oooooh, I want Layna! Muse is one of my favourite Voyager episodes!
And since everyone is adding theirs, here’s my top 12 DIP folks.
Captain of the voyage vessels: Queen of Bashir, Landsknecht, and Sunspear, the first luxury starship cruiseliners.
Amenities include wifi, fully-functioning holodecks, a full-service bar, 3 party decks, a Trill spa, and a business centre.
Fun fact: The ships are propelled by bouncy castle technology.