Also, thank you for not throwing 50+ bonus crew at us.
You mean like the 50 Janeway's?
Seriously?
There hasn't been a single new Janeway in all of 2018.
As of now, there are 15 versions of Janeway, 15 of Sisko, 18 of Picard, 14 of Kirk and 10 of Archer. I could understand Enterprise fans complaining about the lack of Archers, but the whole Janeway thing is getting old.
I feel like I need a method to "save" messages to quote, so every time I see complaints about number of janeways I can re-quote this message. So tired of it. There have also been lots of siskos in the last 2 years! oh wow!
Nah it'll be STD Zora from the shorts I still haven't watched...
Your question was answered in the first day of the thread. It's an interesting Short Trek that has yet to be tied into any storyline. You could also watch the episode and find out without really spoiling anything.
You should watch the shorts, they are really good. They are fun little fifteen minute mini episodes.
Especially the one about Mudd. I think that one is pretty true to TOS Mudd. Rain Wilson does a good job there.
Yes, I watched them alltogether yesterday. Some are quite nice, some are soso, but the one with Mudd is hilarious.
I just wished I had seen them before the show, it would have made one or the other episode much better.
Netflix did a poor job putting them to the bottom of the trailers without any announcement. If not for this forum I had never found out they even existed.
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I'm anticipating Zora will have MED, as she was a de facto counselor. Gonna run a split of Section 31 (0* Holoprograms, which seem inevitable) and Augments (Medical Experiments) on that basis. At worst, I'll have a stockpile of Medical Experiments she doesn't need. Can't see the harm in that gamble.
I'm anticipating Zora will have MED, as she was a de facto counselor.
Plus she healed up all of Craft's injuries while he was unconscious (presumably she was using those little R2 hull repair gizmos we saw one episode to be her 'hands' for that).
I've seen them all. They're really bad. The Mudd one is ok, but the first one with Tilly is the worst, and Calypso is right behind it at second worst.
I liked the one with Mudd. It was the only time Rainn Wilson was on screen and actually looking like the Harry Mudd we all know and love (and love to hate), instead of a one-dimensional, violent sociopath. I agree that the Tilly/Po and Calypso shorts were not good at all, and the other one was a nice bit of backstory.
Calypso was great science fiction, even if it might not (yet!) tie into Star Trek lore. It has suspense, an air of exploration, a vision of the future of Technology and a positive outlook. Sounds pretty much like Trek to me, what’s not to like?
Calypso was great science fiction, even if it might not (yet!) tie into Star Trek lore. It has suspense, an air of exploration, a vision of the future of Technology and a positive outlook. Sounds pretty much like Trek to me, what’s not to like?
When you passionately hate Discovery, it's hard to admit anything tied to it could possibly be of good quality.
What I liked about "Calypso" is that it didn't even need to be a Star Trek story. It's just old fashioned, right-down-the-middle science-fiction. It was an entirely unexpected but interesting use of the Short Treks format. It did feel a bit lethargic in places, though I get that that was deliberate, to convey the tedium. But I was more invested in learning about Craft than I was in the fate of the Discovery crew, so clearly I found it engaging.
What I liked about "Calypso" is that it didn't even need to be a Star Trek story. It's just old fashioned, right-down-the-middle science-fiction. It was an entirely unexpected but interesting use of the Short Treks format. It did feel a bit lethargic in places, though I get that that was deliberate, to convey the tedium. But I was more invested in learning about Craft than I was in the fate of the Discovery crew, so clearly I found it engaging.
If it had been told as a stand-alone story rather than as an unnecessarily far-future Trek story, I think I would have liked it a lot more. It felt incredibly out of place among three other Short Treks that were far more relatable to the rest of the show. Fleshed out into a 30- or 60-minute show, Calypso would have made for a great Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, or perhaps Black Mirror episode.
What I liked about "Calypso" is that it didn't even need to be a Star Trek story. It's just old fashioned, right-down-the-middle science-fiction. It was an entirely unexpected but interesting use of the Short Treks format. It did feel a bit lethargic in places, though I get that that was deliberate, to convey the tedium. But I was more invested in learning about Craft than I was in the fate of the Discovery crew, so clearly I found it engaging.
If it had been told as a stand-alone story rather than as an unnecessarily far-future Trek story, I think I would have liked it a lot more. It felt incredibly out of place among three other Short Treks that were far more relatable to the rest of the show. Fleshed out into a 30- or 60-minute show, Calypso would have made for a great Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, or perhaps Black Mirror episode.
I suspect that's what they were going for, to be honest. And to @Travis S McClain 's point, it definitely was an unexpected use of the format. I'm curious to see how it ties into Discovery's third season, because I suspect that will impact a lot of people's opinions on it. I enjoyed it, but it wasn't my favourite of the four.
What I liked about "Calypso" is that it didn't even need to be a Star Trek story. It's just old fashioned, right-down-the-middle science-fiction. It was an entirely unexpected but interesting use of the Short Treks format. It did feel a bit lethargic in places, though I get that that was deliberate, to convey the tedium. But I was more invested in learning about Craft than I was in the fate of the Discovery crew, so clearly I found it engaging.
If it had been told as a stand-alone story rather than as an unnecessarily far-future Trek story, I think I would have liked it a lot more. It felt incredibly out of place among three other Short Treks that were far more relatable to the rest of the show. Fleshed out into a 30- or 60-minute show, Calypso would have made for a great Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, or perhaps Black Mirror episode.
It did feel incredibly out of place among the other three Short Treks. And that's precisely why I dig it. One of the biggest knocks on recent Trek, whether the Kelvinverse movies or Disco, is that it's been action stories wearing Star Trek's clothes. "Calypso" is nothing of the kind, and I felt that by being so far removed from the show, it demonstrated that there is still room left for non-action science-fiction in Trek.
Also, I think your use of the phrase "unnecessarily far-future" may have felt applicable at the time, but not by the end of the season.
What I liked about "Calypso" is that it didn't even need to be a Star Trek story. It's just old fashioned, right-down-the-middle science-fiction. It was an entirely unexpected but interesting use of the Short Treks format. It did feel a bit lethargic in places, though I get that that was deliberate, to convey the tedium. But I was more invested in learning about Craft than I was in the fate of the Discovery crew, so clearly I found it engaging.
If it had been told as a stand-alone story rather than as an unnecessarily far-future Trek story, I think I would have liked it a lot more. It felt incredibly out of place among three other Short Treks that were far more relatable to the rest of the show. Fleshed out into a 30- or 60-minute show, Calypso would have made for a great Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, or perhaps Black Mirror episode.
It did feel incredibly out of place among the other three Short Treks. And that's precisely why I dig it. One of the biggest knocks on recent Trek, whether the Kelvinverse movies or Disco, is that it's been action stories wearing Star Trek's clothes. "Calypso" is nothing of the kind, and I felt that by being so far removed from the show, it demonstrated that there is still room left for non-action science-fiction in Trek.
Also, I think your use of the phrase "unnecessarily far-future" may have felt applicable at the time, but not by the end of the season.
The events of the season 2 finale certainly bridged a lot of that gap...we’ll see how much there is left to go or if this gets forgotten about by the writers before they can get around to it.
Calypso was great science fiction, even if it might not (yet!) tie into Star Trek lore. It has suspense, an air of exploration, a vision of the future of Technology and a positive outlook. Sounds pretty much like Trek to me, what’s not to like?
I don’t think there was any suspense at all, is the problem. No suspense or twist or hook to keep you engaged in the story. It was literally just “guy shows up, chills for a few days, then leaves with no consequences or obstacles”. I was really expecting it to be...anything, considering it was based on the Calypso part of The Odyssey, but it was really nothing. Very disappointing. I do remember a part where the dude is looking out a window and sees a shooting star in space, which made me laugh.
The Mudd short was pretty funny and clever though.
I feel like Zora's going to look a lot better against a dark background, where that black outline will be much less visible - I'm like 80% in love with her and I think the rest is just the clash between no outlines within the figure and the visible outline on her edges.
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I feel like I need a method to "save" messages to quote, so every time I see complaints about number of janeways I can re-quote this message. So tired of it. There have also been lots of siskos in the last 2 years! oh wow!
And as a spooky coincidence, the first actress to play Tora Ziyal also played Navaar.
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Well that makes my interest drop even more. If it was TOS I would have cared, but how do you even make a card based on a disembodied AI...?
Well, at least we would get character with new trait "artificial intelligence". And it would for sure be very often in voyages.
Especially the one about Mudd. I think that one is pretty true to TOS Mudd. Rain Wilson does a good job there.
Your question was answered in the first day of the thread. It's an interesting Short Trek that has yet to be tied into any storyline. You could also watch the episode and find out without really spoiling anything.
I just wished I had seen them before the show, it would have made one or the other episode much better.
Netflix did a poor job putting them to the bottom of the trailers without any announcement. If not for this forum I had never found out they even existed.
Plus she healed up all of Craft's injuries while he was unconscious (presumably she was using those little R2 hull repair gizmos we saw one episode to be her 'hands' for that).
You're right in that the existing Admiral Janeway in the game is, in fact, a vice admiral. But "Vice" isn't in her official crew name.
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Your definition of 'plenty' = 1, is perplexing.
Yes, Vina is plenty. But there are "plenty" of male Orion Slavers in the game, too (from Enterprise).
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I liked the one with Mudd. It was the only time Rainn Wilson was on screen and actually looking like the Harry Mudd we all know and love (and love to hate), instead of a one-dimensional, violent sociopath. I agree that the Tilly/Po and Calypso shorts were not good at all, and the other one was a nice bit of backstory.
They did.
When you passionately hate Discovery, it's hard to admit anything tied to it could possibly be of good quality.
If it had been told as a stand-alone story rather than as an unnecessarily far-future Trek story, I think I would have liked it a lot more. It felt incredibly out of place among three other Short Treks that were far more relatable to the rest of the show. Fleshed out into a 30- or 60-minute show, Calypso would have made for a great Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, or perhaps Black Mirror episode.
I suspect that's what they were going for, to be honest. And to @Travis S McClain 's point, it definitely was an unexpected use of the format. I'm curious to see how it ties into Discovery's third season, because I suspect that will impact a lot of people's opinions on it. I enjoyed it, but it wasn't my favourite of the four.
It did feel incredibly out of place among the other three Short Treks. And that's precisely why I dig it. One of the biggest knocks on recent Trek, whether the Kelvinverse movies or Disco, is that it's been action stories wearing Star Trek's clothes. "Calypso" is nothing of the kind, and I felt that by being so far removed from the show, it demonstrated that there is still room left for non-action science-fiction in Trek.
Also, I think your use of the phrase "unnecessarily far-future" may have felt applicable at the time, but not by the end of the season.
The events of the season 2 finale certainly bridged a lot of that gap...we’ll see how much there is left to go or if this gets forgotten about by the writers before they can get around to it.
I don’t think there was any suspense at all, is the problem. No suspense or twist or hook to keep you engaged in the story. It was literally just “guy shows up, chills for a few days, then leaves with no consequences or obstacles”. I was really expecting it to be...anything, considering it was based on the Calypso part of The Odyssey, but it was really nothing. Very disappointing. I do remember a part where the dude is looking out a window and sees a shooting star in space, which made me laugh.
The Mudd short was pretty funny and clever though.
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