Wednesday to Tuesday expedition last year still haunts me
You're kidding! That was a real thing? That would've killed me.
No, but "Merry Men" ran from Thursday to Tuesday. Here are all of the Expedition schedules to date:
"The Game's Afoot" Friday 15 July to Tuesday 19 July 2016
"Quadrilateral" Friday 12 August to Monday 15 August 2016
"Ribbon of Joy" Thursday 22 September to Monday 26 September 2016
"Holograms Are Forever" Thursday 6 October to Monday 10 October 2016
"The Game's Afoot 2" Thursday 10 November to Monday 14 November 2016
"Merry Men" Thursday 22 December to Tuesday 27 December 2016
"Quadrilateral 2" Thursday 27 April to Monday 1 May 2017
For what it's worth, I found "Merry Men" to be a leisurely event. It's still by far my best ranking in any event to date (#174). My perception of it was that despite affording so much time to players to get to the game around their holiday festivities, it was still a languid event. I had no problem holding steady in the upper ranks without resorting to the kind of grinding that I relied on in earlier Expeditions. Of course, the consensus that emerged from the community on the old forum was that it was the least popular event format and many forum members either passed entirely or put in far less effort than they generally dedicated to Faction or Galaxy Events. (How indicative those forum members were of the player base at large is, of course, a matter of contentious conjecture.)
How indicative those forum members were of the player base at large is, of course, a matter of contentious conjecture
I'm pretty sure the forum complainers are a very small fraction of the people that are actually playing, For example, I asked my fleet of 50 level 40 or higher players if they had ever visited the forum, and only one of them had done so,
Also, when I described the forums as a whinefest, they were really surprised. The general consensus in my fleet was that there's nothing to be complaining about. They're very happy with the changes that have been made to the game in the last 6 months. They were really surprised when I mentioned how resentful/jealous/scornful some forum members are towards players that choose to spend money playing this game.
I've got about a 70% to 30% ratio of players that are either not spending or just buying daily cards versus 30% of us that will buy dilithium and special offers regularly. They all seemed to basically express that paying players are what make the game possible and likely to continue being developed.
I've recruited my fleet 100% by blind invites via the in-game recruiting tool with no other contact or pitching done by me, and it's a pretty diverse group. We have players from all over the world. I think their view is likely very much more common than the self-selected and vocal group of dedicated forum whiners.
The only problem is you won't catch up at all, because the hard core people will just keep going and the rest who want to keep up will just keep going to keep up and you will still just fall farther behind.
just saying
That isn't true. In the last event I was driving the day it started. I began playing well into the second day. I was in the low 200's by sunday night / monday when I decided i couldn't push to top 50 without spending a bunch of money. I more or less quit supply missions at that point and finished 440. It makes no difference when you do the supply missions as long as you do them. People who don't want to play all the days can easily just play the days that they would like and quit complaining about things that aren't going to change. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean you speak for everyone, or even most, people playing the game.
I didn't spend anymore chronotons than I normally have to spend to finish exactly where I wanted to finish. The extra day made very little difference in the amount of chronotrons necessary to place in the top 1000. And if you can't make it to 50th place the rewards for 51-1000 are virtually the same.
How indicative those forum members were of the player base at large is, of course, a matter of contentious conjecture
I'm pretty sure the forum complainers are a very small fraction of the people that are actually playing, For example, I asked my fleet of 50 level 40 or higher players if they had ever visited the forum, and only one of them had done so,
Also, when I described the forums as a whinefest, they were really surprised. The general consensus in my fleet was that there's nothing to be complaining about. They're very happy with the changes that have been made to the game in the last 6 months. They were really surprised when I mentioned how resentful/jealous/scornful some forum members are towards players that choose to spend money playing this game.
I've got about a 70% to 30% ratio of players that are either not spending or just buying daily cards versus 30% of us that will buy dilithium and special offers regularly. They all seemed to basically express that paying players are what make the game possible and likely to continue being developed.
I've recruited my fleet 100% by blind invites via the in-game recruiting tool with no other contact or pitching done by me, and it's a pretty diverse group. We have players from all over the world. I think their view is likely very much more common than the self-selected and vocal group of dedicated forum whiners.
But that's just my opinion.
It is a shame that many only feel the need to have their voice heard in complaint, not in praise
The issue with your schedule is that not playing Sat-Mon will put you so far behind that you'll never rank well in a Galaxy event. If you play Thur/Fri and clear the threshold rewards you should stop and call it quits. Playing on Tue after taking off Sat-Mon will just mean throwing chrons/equipment into an airlock for no noticeable gain in rank rewards.
The issue with your schedule is that not playing Sat-Mon will put you so far behind that you'll never rank well in a Galaxy event. If you play Thur/Fri and clear the threshold rewards you should stop and call it quits. Playing on Tue after taking off Sat-Mon will just mean throwing chrons/equipment into an airlock for no noticeable gain in rank rewards.
I'm not sure that's true. Definitely so for a Faction event, but you can play a whole Galaxy in one sitting if you want to, especially if it's on the last day so that you know what you need for rank. You can save up the chrons and just blow them all at once.
I'm not in favor of any event types past four days. They are all repetitive and monotonous, but especially expedition and galaxy. If it has to be longer than 4 days then a mix of the three event types as EWB suggested would be preferred to at least try and keep things fresh. I would prefer to see three day events during holidays or just every now and then even.
I'm not sure that's true. Definitely so for a Faction event, but you can play a whole Galaxy in one sitting if you want to, especially if it's on the last day so that you know what you need for rank. You can save up the chrons and just blow them all at once.
This is correct. I usually blow all my chronos at once in one sitting. I'll usually start to build up the number I believe I need to get near the top of the leaderboards beginning the Friday Galaxy event is announced. When I decide to do the event - it doesn't matter which day - I'll spend about 3-4 hours doing nothing but supply missions until my stash of chronotrons runs out. Then I'll basically just use whatever chronotrons I get during the rest of the event essentially maintaining my spot. This has worked to earn me more than 1 top 100 finish and over half a dozen top 1000 finishes. I'm generally as happy with finishing 52nd as I am 999th because you win basically the same prize for either score.
In fact, in the last Galaxy event it probably worked out to my benefit that I could not play the first day because I was driving 7 hours to see my parents for Thanksgiving. During that time I ran a 14 hour voyage and added close to 2,000 chronotrons (plus got some really good 4*s) to my galaxy stockpile. I went from last place to the low 200s in one sitting and then maintained there until I decided I was safe for top 1000 on Sunday night. Then I stopped doing supply missions and finished 440.
So during that long event I skipped the first and last day and finished well enough to get Honey Bare Jadzia. The extra day didn't really change anything about how I play these events.
I don't know why people are against 5 day galaxy events. You can play Galaxy events whenever you want, someone could just play for hours on Tuesday and get a good rank. It's the long faction events that are the problem. Faction events are annoying as hell and you need to be online every couple hours to rank well, that's when the extra day would **tsk tsk**. For galaxy events who cares?
Frankly, I tend to get burned out by the end of an event, and an extra day makes that even worse. I also really hate galaxy events, not only because it takes so much from leveling crew, but due to the fact that is long, tedious, work that feels worse than jobs I've hated.
Maybe the 5 day events won't be so bad because they're over a holiday weekend. I'm pretty sure I won't have it in me to go full steam the whole time, and hopefully DB provides some extra incentives and rewards during those events. I also think a community reward or target for the second half of the event would be nice, not just the first half.
And maybe for Christmas we can get half price dabo, half price slots, and some sort of "mini event" or "event target" for some extra crew slots. Also more than just a $25 sale, so we can select our price points if we don't feel like spending that much, but want something. And maybe a stupid promo card one or two days we're guaranteed if we make some target, even if it's just a stupid tribble avatar.
It’s hard to believe that there are an equal amount of chrons spent in a 4 and 5 day event.
There is no doubt that it’s possible to rank well just playing the last day, but that doesn’t prove that it’s an equal amount of chrons.
For the people that feel that the extra day doesn’t matter it cuts both ways. The extra day doesn’t matter! So make it 3 days or 2 days.
Im positive that dB makes more money on the longer events. Just like I’m positive that they offered 6000 chrons for $50 to make more money during the event.
I don't know why people are against 5 day galaxy events. You can play Galaxy events whenever you want, someone could just play for hours on Tuesday and get a good rank. It's the long faction events that are the problem. Faction events are annoying as hell and you need to be online every couple hours to rank well, that's when the extra day would ****. For galaxy events who cares?
Because if you want to rank well, it means spending every chroniton you earn over the event. A 5 day event means spending an extra day of chronitons on the event that could be spent leveling crew. Also, a 5 day event means a day of burning even deeper in supplies of other equipment that you haven't used up yet. Faction events require you to log in every 3 hours, but they don't consume resources the way Galaxy events do.
Im positive that dB makes more money on the longer events. Just like I’m positive that they offered 6000 chrons for $50 to make more money during the event.
So what's wrong with that? They are in business to make money, just like any other company. The extra day allows people to fit the event in with their holiday plans. I appreciated it as I was travelling the first day of the event and did Thanksgiving stuff most of the next day. I just will never understand why people get upset about that fact. They aren't doing it to hurt you or anyone else. Everything is completely voluntary, and you really don't have to play every day to be competitive in a Galaxy event. You can do the same amount of supply missions in one day or in three days. It's about having enough chronotrons to do them. They give plenty of advance notice of the event on the Friday before. You can run voyages and stop levelling crew just like I do if you want. It's a matter of strategy and choices.
I'm telling you the truth I did not spend more chronotrons to finish in the top 1000 than I usually do. I know this is a fact. I was paying very close attention to it, and thought it was remarkable that for all that complaining, it was really only the top 50 or so that were at least 500,000 points ahead of everyone else. Those are your "big spenders" more power to them. So, yes, to get into the top 50 you needed over a million points. Everyone else played essentially the same as they normally do. I did.
Im positive that dB makes more money on the longer events. Just like I’m positive that they offered 6000 chrons for $50 to make more money during the event.
So what's wrong with that? They are in business to make money, just like any other company. I just will never understand why people get upset about that fact.
If DB wants to say, we're making events longer so players spend more money, fine that's their right. But that has nothing to do with holidays, make every event 5 days.
If DB wants to claim that the 5 day event is for the benefit of players, that's a lie. It's for the benefit of their staff being in the office at the start/end of the event. All we're saying is to structure it so that it won't hurt players even more.
And if DB really wanted to do something to benefit the players, maybe a week off over a holiday weekend wouldn't be a crazy notion. But DB Scrooge needs to milk every dollar they can from the fans before they go out of business.
Im positive that dB makes more money on the longer events. Just like I’m positive that they offered 6000 chrons for $50 to make more money during the event.
So what's wrong with that? They are in business to make money, just like any other company. I just will never understand why people get upset about that fact.
If DB wants to say, we're making events longer so players spend more money, fine that's their right. But that has nothing to do with holidays, make every event 5 days.
If DB wants to claim that the 5 day event is for the benefit of players, that's a lie. It's for the benefit of their staff being in the office at the start/end of the event. All we're saying is to structure it so that it won't hurt players even more.
And if DB really wanted to do something to benefit the players, maybe a week off over a holiday weekend wouldn't be a crazy notion. But DB Scrooge needs to milk every dollar they can from the fans before they go out of business.
That's just silly. No one's forcing you to play in the event. I want events whenever possible. I like them. Of course DB is doing it to make money. That is the primary reason this game (or any professionally developed and sold game) exists. They aren't hiding it. That's why there's a store selling all kinds of stuff. That's why they offer specials. They're selling a product. People who like it can choose to buy it if they wish. If they don't like it nobody is forcing them to buy anything or even play. That's completely your choice.
Can you please tell me of any for profit business that intentionally would limit their ability to earn as much money as possible? I've worked enough retail - I did a stint as a RadioShack manger about 12 years ago - and I promise you that everything we did was designed to entice people to want to spend as much as possible in our store when they visited. That's why we ran sales. That's why we had promotions. It's all to increase profits and sales. It is not greedy it is how business operates in the real world.
Im positive that dB makes more money on the longer events. Just like I’m positive that they offered 6000 chrons for $50 to make more money during the event.
So what's wrong with that? They are in business to make money, just like any other company. The extra day allows people to fit the event in with their holiday plans. I appreciated it as I was travelling the first day of the event and did Thanksgiving stuff most of the next day. I just will never understand why people get upset about that fact. They aren't doing it to hurt you or anyone else. Everything is completely voluntary, and you really don't have to play every day to be competitive in a Galaxy event. You can do the same amount of supply missions in one day or in three days. It's about having enough chronotrons to do them. They give plenty of advance notice of the event on the Friday before. You can run voyages and stop levelling crew just like I do if you want. It's a matter of strategy and choices.
I'm telling you the truth I did not spend more chronotrons to finish in the top 1000 than I usually do. I know this is a fact. I was paying very close attention to it, and thought it was remarkable that for all that complaining, it was really only the top 50 or so that were at least 500,000 points ahead of everyone else. Those are your "big spenders" more power to them. So, yes, to get into the top 50 you needed over a million points. Everyone else played essentially the same as they normally do. I did.
So you were traveling Wednesday and celebrating Thursday? So the extra day was no benefit to you. If thats true why are you arguing so strongly for the extra day?
As stated by AviTrek, the problem is they try and make it seem like it’s for the player benifit. There’s nothing wrong with them making money. Just come out and say it.
Hopefully they make galaxy events 7 days long. That would be great business. DB will wind up like radio shack using that strategy.
As stated by AviTrek, the problem is they try and make it seem like it’s for the player benifit. There’s nothing wrong with them making money. Just come out and say it.
Hopefully they make galaxy events 7 days long. That would be great business. DB will wind up like radio shack using that strategy.
I'm saying the extra day isn't the issue that you people keep making it. It really didn't affect how I played. It didn't seem to impact anything really in terms of score and chronotron exependiture required for the top 1000.
DB is not going to say "hey guys we're totally doing this to increase our profit for the quarter" no business would. Do you expect a store to say we're running this promotion because we hope it will increase our sales? That's insane.
I'm saying it's understood that everything DB does is designed to increase their profit. That's called business. Complaining about it is not only futile, it demonstrates you don't understand that the primary purpose of this game, and all games, is to make as much money as possible. Do you think that companies create games just to be nice? No, it's a business just like any other. They have investors. They have to make revenue or there is no more game. It is as simple as that.
I'm going to stop commenting on this. I think you're just going to complain no matter what DB does. Have fun with that. The rest of us will be playing the game. I mean, just look at how effective these endless complaint threads have been in getting what you want.
Frankly, I tend to get burned out by the end of an event, and an extra day makes that even worse. I also really hate galaxy events, not only because it takes so much from leveling crew, but due to the fact that is long, tedious, work that feels worse than jobs I've hated.
Maybe the 5 day events won't be so bad because they're over a holiday weekend. I'm pretty sure I won't have it in me to go full steam the whole time, and hopefully DB provides some extra incentives and rewards during those events. I also think a community reward or target for the second half of the event would be nice, not just the first half.
And maybe for Christmas we can get half price dabo, half price slots, and some sort of "mini event" or "event target" for some extra crew slots. Also more than just a $25 sale, so we can select our price points if we don't feel like spending that much, but want something. And maybe a stupid promo card one or two days we're guaranteed if we make some target, even if it's just a stupid tribble avatar.
If it feels like work and you don't like doing it, then just stop. It's a game. If it isn't fun for you why are you bothering with it? I play because I enjoy it. It's completely mindless. I put on an audiobook or music and just click away on the supply missions.
And I very much enjoyed the $4.99 offer this week. It sounds very much like they did exactly what you're hoping for just this last week.
I just wish to add my voice to the chorus to say I do not like having events extended by a day.
DB can do as it wishes, but as customers we also have the right to voice concerns and indicate our displeasure.
When I mentioned the two extended events to members of my fleet it was met with much groaning, disappointment and words that didn't make it through the language filter. Not one voice of our full fleet was excited, enthisiastic, nor appreciative to have another day tacked onto the events. The majority do not visit the forums, so those voices would otherwise go unheard if it weren't for the few here who can point out issues customers have with the game.
As stated by AviTrek, the problem is they try and make it seem like it’s for the player benifit. There’s nothing wrong with them making money. Just come out and say it.
Hopefully they make galaxy events 7 days long. That would be great business. DB will wind up like radio shack using that strategy.
I'm saying the extra day isn't the issue that you people keep making it. It really didn't affect how I played. It didn't seem to impact anything really in terms of score and chronotron exependiture required for the top 1000.
DB is not going to say "hey guys we're totally doing this to increase our profit for the quarter" no business would. Do you expect a store to say we're running this promotion because we hope it will increase our sales? That's insane.
I'm saying it's understood that everything DB does is designed to increase their profit. That's called business. Complaining about it is not only futile, it demonstrates you don't understand that the primary purpose of this game, and all games, is to make as much money as possible. Do you think that companies create games just to be nice? No, it's a business just like any other. They have investors. They have to make revenue or there is no more game. It is as simple as that.
Once again you are saying it didn’t effect anything, BUT they made more money. Contradictory?
It absolutely made a difference at the 1000 level, which I am at regulary. You are top 50? I believe there was no effect at that level.
I don’t want 5 day galaxy events. Many others don’t either. I’ve read so many posts in the last year of people who skip 4 day galaxy. Always makes me laugh. The consumer is crying out for new types of events and weekends off.
This could easily be settled by a poll. DB will do what they want either way, but just because they THINK they are going to make more money doesn’t mean they will in the long run.
Galaxy events are good now that we have Voyages to give us chrons. All we need is credits and you can get those during the galaxy events using supply kits. And with galaxy events you can get two 4/4 crew instead of a 4/4 and a 3/4 and you get a free portal pull.
As stated by AviTrek, the problem is they try and make it seem like it’s for the player benifit. There’s nothing wrong with them making money. Just come out and say it.
Hopefully they make galaxy events 7 days long. That would be great business. DB will wind up like radio shack using that strategy.
I'm saying the extra day isn't the issue that you people keep making it. It really didn't affect how I played. It didn't seem to impact anything really in terms of score and chronotron exependiture required for the top 1000.
DB is not going to say "hey guys we're totally doing this to increase our profit for the quarter" no business would. Do you expect a store to say we're running this promotion because we hope it will increase our sales? That's insane.
I'm saying it's understood that everything DB does is designed to increase their profit. That's called business. Complaining about it is not only futile, it demonstrates you don't understand that the primary purpose of this game, and all games, is to make as much money as possible. Do you think that companies create games just to be nice? No, it's a business just like any other. They have investors. They have to make revenue or there is no more game. It is as simple as that.
Once again you are saying it didn’t effect anything, BUT they made more money. Contradictory?
It absolutely made a difference at the 1000 level, which I am at regulary. You are top 50? I believe there was no effect at that level.
I don’t want 5 day galaxy events. Many others don’t either. I’ve read so many posts in the last year of people who skip 4 day galaxy. Always makes me laugh. The consumer is crying out for new types of events and weekends off.
This could easily be settled by a poll. DB will do what they want either way, but just because they THINK they are going to make more money doesn’t mean they will in the long run.
You miss the point. And it didn't matter for me to finish at 420. It mattered where around level 50 people were 500,000 points ahead of the people just under them. The point is it is stupid to complain about it. A poll would be meaningless because people that use the forums are a very small self-selected group that are predisposed to complaining. That's why the vast majority of players never even think about coming to the forum. Besides that, this game is not a democracy. The developers set the terms and rules of the game and you either accept them and play or you don't.
Whining about companies trying to earn money is very childish behavior. They aren't going to make changes that hurt their bottom line at the end of the day no matter how much you whine and complain about it.
And for the record I don't play everyday during a galaxy event. It isn't required to obtain a very high score. It's about having enough chronotrons to do supply missions. If you have enough you can do the missions in any combination of 1,2,3,4, or 5 days and spend the exact same amount of chronotrons.
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NNNNNOOOOO!!!!!! Anything over two I can’t commit to
Why not endless? One event ends and 2 hours later the next one starts.
You're kidding! That was a real thing? That would've killed me.
Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.
~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
No, but "Merry Men" ran from Thursday to Tuesday. Here are all of the Expedition schedules to date:
"The Game's Afoot" Friday 15 July to Tuesday 19 July 2016
"Quadrilateral" Friday 12 August to Monday 15 August 2016
"Ribbon of Joy" Thursday 22 September to Monday 26 September 2016
"Holograms Are Forever" Thursday 6 October to Monday 10 October 2016
"The Game's Afoot 2" Thursday 10 November to Monday 14 November 2016
"Merry Men" Thursday 22 December to Tuesday 27 December 2016
"Quadrilateral 2" Thursday 27 April to Monday 1 May 2017
For what it's worth, I found "Merry Men" to be a leisurely event. It's still by far my best ranking in any event to date (#174). My perception of it was that despite affording so much time to players to get to the game around their holiday festivities, it was still a languid event. I had no problem holding steady in the upper ranks without resorting to the kind of grinding that I relied on in earlier Expeditions. Of course, the consensus that emerged from the community on the old forum was that it was the least popular event format and many forum members either passed entirely or put in far less effort than they generally dedicated to Faction or Galaxy Events. (How indicative those forum members were of the player base at large is, of course, a matter of contentious conjecture.)
I'm pretty sure the forum complainers are a very small fraction of the people that are actually playing, For example, I asked my fleet of 50 level 40 or higher players if they had ever visited the forum, and only one of them had done so,
Also, when I described the forums as a whinefest, they were really surprised. The general consensus in my fleet was that there's nothing to be complaining about. They're very happy with the changes that have been made to the game in the last 6 months. They were really surprised when I mentioned how resentful/jealous/scornful some forum members are towards players that choose to spend money playing this game.
I've got about a 70% to 30% ratio of players that are either not spending or just buying daily cards versus 30% of us that will buy dilithium and special offers regularly. They all seemed to basically express that paying players are what make the game possible and likely to continue being developed.
I've recruited my fleet 100% by blind invites via the in-game recruiting tool with no other contact or pitching done by me, and it's a pretty diverse group. We have players from all over the world. I think their view is likely very much more common than the self-selected and vocal group of dedicated forum whiners.
But that's just my opinion.
That isn't true. In the last event I was driving the day it started. I began playing well into the second day. I was in the low 200's by sunday night / monday when I decided i couldn't push to top 50 without spending a bunch of money. I more or less quit supply missions at that point and finished 440. It makes no difference when you do the supply missions as long as you do them. People who don't want to play all the days can easily just play the days that they would like and quit complaining about things that aren't going to change. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean you speak for everyone, or even most, people playing the game.
I didn't spend anymore chronotons than I normally have to spend to finish exactly where I wanted to finish. The extra day made very little difference in the amount of chronotrons necessary to place in the top 1000. And if you can't make it to 50th place the rewards for 51-1000 are virtually the same.
It is a shame that many only feel the need to have their voice heard in complaint, not in praise
But, those of us who are negatively impacted by the Holiday do appreciate the chance to actually be in the Event.
Thanx.
Scott
This is correct. I usually blow all my chronos at once in one sitting. I'll usually start to build up the number I believe I need to get near the top of the leaderboards beginning the Friday Galaxy event is announced. When I decide to do the event - it doesn't matter which day - I'll spend about 3-4 hours doing nothing but supply missions until my stash of chronotrons runs out. Then I'll basically just use whatever chronotrons I get during the rest of the event essentially maintaining my spot. This has worked to earn me more than 1 top 100 finish and over half a dozen top 1000 finishes. I'm generally as happy with finishing 52nd as I am 999th because you win basically the same prize for either score.
In fact, in the last Galaxy event it probably worked out to my benefit that I could not play the first day because I was driving 7 hours to see my parents for Thanksgiving. During that time I ran a 14 hour voyage and added close to 2,000 chronotrons (plus got some really good 4*s) to my galaxy stockpile. I went from last place to the low 200s in one sitting and then maintained there until I decided I was safe for top 1000 on Sunday night. Then I stopped doing supply missions and finished 440.
So during that long event I skipped the first and last day and finished well enough to get Honey Bare Jadzia. The extra day didn't really change anything about how I play these events.
Maybe the 5 day events won't be so bad because they're over a holiday weekend. I'm pretty sure I won't have it in me to go full steam the whole time, and hopefully DB provides some extra incentives and rewards during those events. I also think a community reward or target for the second half of the event would be nice, not just the first half.
And maybe for Christmas we can get half price dabo, half price slots, and some sort of "mini event" or "event target" for some extra crew slots. Also more than just a $25 sale, so we can select our price points if we don't feel like spending that much, but want something. And maybe a stupid promo card one or two days we're guaranteed if we make some target, even if it's just a stupid tribble avatar.
There is no doubt that it’s possible to rank well just playing the last day, but that doesn’t prove that it’s an equal amount of chrons.
For the people that feel that the extra day doesn’t matter it cuts both ways. The extra day doesn’t matter! So make it 3 days or 2 days.
Im positive that dB makes more money on the longer events. Just like I’m positive that they offered 6000 chrons for $50 to make more money during the event.
Because if you want to rank well, it means spending every chroniton you earn over the event. A 5 day event means spending an extra day of chronitons on the event that could be spent leveling crew. Also, a 5 day event means a day of burning even deeper in supplies of other equipment that you haven't used up yet. Faction events require you to log in every 3 hours, but they don't consume resources the way Galaxy events do.
So what's wrong with that? They are in business to make money, just like any other company. The extra day allows people to fit the event in with their holiday plans. I appreciated it as I was travelling the first day of the event and did Thanksgiving stuff most of the next day. I just will never understand why people get upset about that fact. They aren't doing it to hurt you or anyone else. Everything is completely voluntary, and you really don't have to play every day to be competitive in a Galaxy event. You can do the same amount of supply missions in one day or in three days. It's about having enough chronotrons to do them. They give plenty of advance notice of the event on the Friday before. You can run voyages and stop levelling crew just like I do if you want. It's a matter of strategy and choices.
I'm telling you the truth I did not spend more chronotrons to finish in the top 1000 than I usually do. I know this is a fact. I was paying very close attention to it, and thought it was remarkable that for all that complaining, it was really only the top 50 or so that were at least 500,000 points ahead of everyone else. Those are your "big spenders" more power to them. So, yes, to get into the top 50 you needed over a million points. Everyone else played essentially the same as they normally do. I did.
If DB wants to say, we're making events longer so players spend more money, fine that's their right. But that has nothing to do with holidays, make every event 5 days.
If DB wants to claim that the 5 day event is for the benefit of players, that's a lie. It's for the benefit of their staff being in the office at the start/end of the event. All we're saying is to structure it so that it won't hurt players even more.
And if DB really wanted to do something to benefit the players, maybe a week off over a holiday weekend wouldn't be a crazy notion. But DB Scrooge needs to milk every dollar they can from the fans before they go out of business.
That's just silly. No one's forcing you to play in the event. I want events whenever possible. I like them. Of course DB is doing it to make money. That is the primary reason this game (or any professionally developed and sold game) exists. They aren't hiding it. That's why there's a store selling all kinds of stuff. That's why they offer specials. They're selling a product. People who like it can choose to buy it if they wish. If they don't like it nobody is forcing them to buy anything or even play. That's completely your choice.
Can you please tell me of any for profit business that intentionally would limit their ability to earn as much money as possible? I've worked enough retail - I did a stint as a RadioShack manger about 12 years ago - and I promise you that everything we did was designed to entice people to want to spend as much as possible in our store when they visited. That's why we ran sales. That's why we had promotions. It's all to increase profits and sales. It is not greedy it is how business operates in the real world.
So you were traveling Wednesday and celebrating Thursday? So the extra day was no benefit to you. If thats true why are you arguing so strongly for the extra day?
As stated by AviTrek, the problem is they try and make it seem like it’s for the player benifit. There’s nothing wrong with them making money. Just come out and say it.
Hopefully they make galaxy events 7 days long. That would be great business. DB will wind up like radio shack using that strategy.
I'm saying the extra day isn't the issue that you people keep making it. It really didn't affect how I played. It didn't seem to impact anything really in terms of score and chronotron exependiture required for the top 1000.
DB is not going to say "hey guys we're totally doing this to increase our profit for the quarter" no business would. Do you expect a store to say we're running this promotion because we hope it will increase our sales? That's insane.
I'm saying it's understood that everything DB does is designed to increase their profit. That's called business. Complaining about it is not only futile, it demonstrates you don't understand that the primary purpose of this game, and all games, is to make as much money as possible. Do you think that companies create games just to be nice? No, it's a business just like any other. They have investors. They have to make revenue or there is no more game. It is as simple as that.
I read this article earlier today. I think more people should read it.
http://nymag.com/selectall/2017/11/companies-should-ignore-online-mobs-more.html
If it feels like work and you don't like doing it, then just stop. It's a game. If it isn't fun for you why are you bothering with it? I play because I enjoy it. It's completely mindless. I put on an audiobook or music and just click away on the supply missions.
And I very much enjoyed the $4.99 offer this week. It sounds very much like they did exactly what you're hoping for just this last week.
DB can do as it wishes, but as customers we also have the right to voice concerns and indicate our displeasure.
When I mentioned the two extended events to members of my fleet it was met with much groaning, disappointment and words that didn't make it through the language filter. Not one voice of our full fleet was excited, enthisiastic, nor appreciative to have another day tacked onto the events. The majority do not visit the forums, so those voices would otherwise go unheard if it weren't for the few here who can point out issues customers have with the game.
Once again you are saying it didn’t effect anything, BUT they made more money. Contradictory?
It absolutely made a difference at the 1000 level, which I am at regulary. You are top 50? I believe there was no effect at that level.
I don’t want 5 day galaxy events. Many others don’t either. I’ve read so many posts in the last year of people who skip 4 day galaxy. Always makes me laugh. The consumer is crying out for new types of events and weekends off.
This could easily be settled by a poll. DB will do what they want either way, but just because they THINK they are going to make more money doesn’t mean they will in the long run.
You miss the point. And it didn't matter for me to finish at 420. It mattered where around level 50 people were 500,000 points ahead of the people just under them. The point is it is stupid to complain about it. A poll would be meaningless because people that use the forums are a very small self-selected group that are predisposed to complaining. That's why the vast majority of players never even think about coming to the forum. Besides that, this game is not a democracy. The developers set the terms and rules of the game and you either accept them and play or you don't.
Whining about companies trying to earn money is very childish behavior. They aren't going to make changes that hurt their bottom line at the end of the day no matter how much you whine and complain about it.
And for the record I don't play everyday during a galaxy event. It isn't required to obtain a very high score. It's about having enough chronotrons to do supply missions. If you have enough you can do the missions in any combination of 1,2,3,4, or 5 days and spend the exact same amount of chronotrons.