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  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    V. wrote: »
    It's funny.

    The Burnie haters are sure taking this seriously. I think it's hilarious that DB has tapped into the DIS haters and turned up the fever a notch!

    I think if you read enough here, you'll find a Discovery booster or two not happy as well.

    Glad you finally have some glee, though.
  • V.V. ✭✭✭✭
    I think they kind of nailed Burnham's character on the show. She is conflicted/ashamed yet sanctimonious at the same time. They're having a lot of fun with it for the convergence day.
    For me it's the best written event in a long while.
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  • DavideBooksDavideBooks ✭✭✭✭✭
    V. wrote: »
    It's funny.

    The Burnie haters are sure taking this seriously. I think it's hilarious that DB has tapped into the DIS haters and turned up the fever a notch!

    I don't hate Discovery or anyone in particular. Most of us are simply pointing out the tyrannical nature of what is being suggested in this event's storyline. As far as I know, this storyline does not properly represent the character in Discovery. Divorce the show and character from this whole thing and tell me that the goals of the storyline are good.
  • ~peregrine~~peregrine~ ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think the DB writer’s tongue was super-glued inside her/his cheek for this one.
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  • DpmtDpmt ✭✭
    edited January 2018
    Burnham is obviously in control of the phase 1 victory points. I have no doubt alternatives will arise in phase 2. (A-Risa pun intentionally left out.)
  • I'm one of those that airlocks STDs automatically so... *shrugs*

    Lol. I thought I was the only one!

    Gene Roddenberry's head would explode if he saw what has happened to his beloved Trek. The least I can do is send STD members to the airlock.
  • Pallidyne wrote: »
    I'm one of those that airlocks STDs automatically so... *shrugs*

    Not sure what ur personal health issues have to do with this topic?

    Or are you talking bout Discovery? DSC is the offical short term, or did any other Star Trek show had ST(Star Trek) as part of their shortterms? Any? TOS, TNG, VOY, DS9, ENT, TAS?!

    This STD jokes are getting soo old and lame. Feels like kindergarten.

    Is there an 'official' chart outside of Wikipedia (which is not an authoritative source)?

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    Or this

    John van Citters is CBS's VP of Prodect Development.
    Sincerely,

    Lilac Erosion

    7TH Tactical Wing

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  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    Funny first time I read that I saw Critters.....and thought how apropos
  • Have you seen her fight, the others are too scared to argue. Even the Klingons are crying into their teddy bears.

    The whole thing is a practical joke by Burnham, part of the famous Vulcan sense of humour. They like to pretend they cannot lie, that they don't laugh or place cups of water on top of doors.

    Occasionally they play a practical joke, and when they do it's a very big one. When it's over the other species will be wondering what went on, sure in the knowledge that it was not the Vulcan because they think Vulcans cannot lie.

    Burnham will report to the high council, and they will have a snigger in the knowledge that they can play another practical joke in a few years, and they will never be suspected.

    Regarding her opposition: They must obey Mikey B... or else she'll "Burnham" down! HAHAHAHA i recently became a father so I get to make bad Dad jokes now! :)

    The best part of "bad Dad jokes" is that the kids don't even know they're bad (at least not for several years)! My son thinks I'm hilarious, while everyone else just rolls their eyes...
  • Have you seen her fight, the others are too scared to argue. Even the Klingons are crying into their teddy bears.

    The whole thing is a practical joke by Burnham, part of the famous Vulcan sense of humour. They like to pretend they cannot lie, that they don't laugh or place cups of water on top of doors.

    Occasionally they play a practical joke, and when they do it's a very big one. When it's over the other species will be wondering what went on, sure in the knowledge that it was not the Vulcan because they think Vulcans cannot lie.

    Burnham will report to the high council, and they will have a snigger in the knowledge that they can play another practical joke in a few years, and they will never be suspected.

    Regarding her opposition: They must obey Mikey B... or else she'll "Burnham" down! HAHAHAHA i recently became a father so I get to make bad Dad jokes now! :)

    The best part of "bad Dad jokes" is that the kids don't even know they're bad (at least not for several years)! My son thinks I'm hilarious, while everyone else just rolls their eyes...

    Oh nice! I can't wait! :wink:
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    PS It's "These STD jokes..." not "This STD jokes..."

    "The grammar police are charging weapons."
    "Red alert, raise shields."

    "Never mind, the grammar police are worse than the person they are complaining about."

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  • (HGH)Apollo(HGH)Apollo ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kirki wrote: »
    I'm one of those that airlocks STDs automatically so... *shrugs*

    Lol. I thought I was the only one!

    Gene Roddenberry's head would explode if he saw what has happened to his beloved Trek. The least I can do is send STD members to the airlock.

    I would think Gene would be thrilled that Star Trek is still on the air and still relevant. Burnham's parents died when she was young. She blamed herself for their deaths causing much emotional turmoil. She was able to move forward only by fully embracing Vulcan philosophy and teachings. Seems all Vulcans are sort of judgy sticks in the mud. Always trying to create order in a world they see as chaotic. This event feels like a christmas theme one and she is being Scrooge before she sees the ghosts and changes her ways. Got to see what she does in second half of event before we can really judge. Its like judging a two part episode after only seeing the first episode.
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  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kirki wrote: »
    I'm one of those that airlocks STDs automatically so... *shrugs*

    Lol. I thought I was the only one!

    Gene Roddenberry's head would explode if he saw what has happened to his beloved Trek. The least I can do is send STD members to the airlock.

    I would think Gene would be thrilled that Star Trek is still on the air and still relevant. Burnham's parents died when she was young. She blamed herself for their deaths causing much emotional turmoil. She was able to move forward only by fully embracing Vulcan philosophy and teachings. Seems all Vulcans are sort of judgy sticks in the mud. Always trying to create order in a world they see as chaotic. This event feels like a christmas theme one and she is being Scrooge before she sees the ghosts and changes her ways. Got to see what she does in second half of event before we can really judge. Its like judging a two part episode after only seeing the first episode.


    Or, the opening Teaser even. {Since this came up as soon as the Event started.}


    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
  • Or this

    John van Citters is CBS's VP of Prodect Development.

    I've never seen people using VGR as Voyager's abbreviation. If I saw that I'd automatically think of Vger from The Motion Picture.
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  • Why on Discovery did they name a woman (lead character no less) Michael?
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  • DralixDralix ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    Why on Discovery did they name a woman (lead character no less) Michael?

    It's series creator Bryan Fuller's thing.
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why on Discovery did they name a woman (lead character no less) Michael?

    The mother on "The Waltons" was played by a Michael......

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0495229/?ref_=tt_cl_t10
    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
  • Why on Discovery did they name a woman (lead character no less) Michael?

    The mother on "The Waltons" was played by a Michael......

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0495229/?ref_=tt_cl_t10

    You are correct. I remember that now so...

    Good, night John Boy. ;)
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  • It's uncommon, but there are female Michaels. Remember The Bangles' bass player, Michael Steele? Okay, she picked the name herself, but still.

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  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's uncommon, but there are female Michaels. Remember The Bangles' bass player, Michael Steele? Okay, she picked the name herself, but still.

    38f8c96a27ca34735c3d26fddfe6b747--michael-steele-michael-okeefe.jpg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv6tuzHUuuk&list=RDCv6tuzHUuuk&t=3
    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
  • MagisseMagisse ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    Have you seen her fight, the others are too scared to argue. Even the Klingons are crying into their teddy bears.

    The whole thing is a practical joke by Burnham, part of the famous Vulcan sense of humour. They like to pretend they cannot lie, that they don't laugh or place cups of water on top of doors.

    Occasionally they play a practical joke, and when they do it's a very big one. When it's over the other species will be wondering what went on, sure in the knowledge that it was not the Vulcan because they think Vulcans cannot lie.

    Burnham will report to the high council, and they will have a snigger in the knowledge that they can play another practical joke in a few years, and they will never be suspected.

    Regarding her opposition: They must obey Mikey B... or else she'll "Burnham" down! HAHAHAHA i recently became a father so I get to make bad Dad jokes now! :)

    The best part of "bad Dad jokes" is that the kids don't even know they're bad (at least not for several years)! My son thinks I'm hilarious, while everyone else just rolls their eyes...
    Sadly this does end eventually. My daughter (9) is now to the eye-rolling point.
    Ah well, doesn't stop me from telling the jokes anyway. (You're surprised, I know.)
  • This event feels like a christmas theme one and she is being Scrooge before she sees the ghosts and changes her ways. Got to see what she does in second half of event before we can really judge. Its like judging a two part episode after only seeing the first episode.

    Sooo... The redeeming power of love *ahem, emotion* on a Vulcan-educated person? We getting the Changelings to play as Ghosts? The Vidiians to act as tormented souls (this one isn't so funny, considering the phage)? And are we getting Cardassians to play Santa? More: How is the Federation going to get help from all these factions? ? More... Redeeming power of love?

    When I saw he event introduction,I thought Q deserved his trumpet up... You know, for leaving us with a problem he could easily solve, like he did with Picard.

    Disclaimer: I'm not saying the concept of the event itself is bad, but the writing... Doesn't satisfy me. And I haven't got anything against Discovery so far, I haven't seen it yet. In both event and series, though, I'll only have something to say when it is done/have watched it.
  • KaiteeKaitee ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've never seen people using VGR as Voyager's abbreviation. If I saw that I'd automatically think of Vger from The Motion Picture.

    I've seen it previously, but yeah, me too. I want to shout "It's VOY, dangit!" and then I realise I'm one of those people...

    (At least the right side won out in the DS9/DSN war.)
  • Travis S McClainTravis S McClain ✭✭✭✭✭
    V. wrote: »
    It's funny.

    The Burnie haters are sure taking this seriously. I think it's hilarious that DB has tapped into the DIS haters and turned up the fever a notch!

    In fairness, I love Disco and Burnham, and I can scarcely stomach these missions, either.
  • (HGH)Apollo(HGH)Apollo ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just click fast past the storylines, I just want the crew!
    Let’s fly!
  • Data1001Data1001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think the storylines are funny. The writing for this event is obviously meant to be playful and silly. It's a nice change of pace from the high-stakes, serious, or darker missions.

    Heck, even some of the regular faction missions are pretty dark, like this Dominion one:
    The Hirogen would surely be diverted from hunting shapeshifters if they discovered an immortal prey. Use the Dominion's knowledge of cloning to create several versions of the same Vorta for the Hirogen to hunt.


    Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.
    ~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
  • MordackMordack ✭✭✭
    Perhaps we should rename her 'Po-Faced Fun Sponge Burnham.'
  • DavideBooksDavideBooks ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fun-sponge has a good ring. I'll start using it for her graduation version.
  • Data1001Data1001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fun-sponge has a good ring. I'll start using it for her graduation version.

    Her character on the show was truly a wet blanket in that era, and she probably remained that way until she'd spent a good amount of time on the Shenzhou, and finally removed the stick from her backside. I'm sure it was because of how she was brought up, which makes me think that Vulcans are probably the race whom I'd least want to party with. (Klingons being #1, most likely. B) )


    Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.
    ~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
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