As a VIP 0 player, I can tell you that no one F2P can “win” a faction event. Galaxy, sure, but not faction. It’s impossible to come in first without spending something. But it is more than possible to finish top 1000. I’ve been hovering in the mid 500’s so far this event, and a quarter of my fleet, who are all VIP 0 as well, are in the top 1000. It takes some work, but it is possible to do well, even without great crew. I myself only have 6 event crew this go around.
And before someone comes in and say that it takes months of saving boosts and we can only do it once in a while, I’ve finished top 1000 in every faction event since last April. If I can do that, then pretty much anyone in this game can.
As a VIP 0 player, I can tell you that no one F2P can “win” a faction event. Galaxy, sure, but not faction. It’s impossible to come in first without spending something. But it is more than possible to finish top 1000. I’ve been hovering in the mid 500’s so far this event, and a quarter of my fleet, who are all VIP 0 as well, are in the top 1000. It takes some work, but it is possible to do well, even without great crew. I myself only have 6 event crew this go around.
And before someone comes in and say that it takes months of saving boosts and we can only do it once in a while, I’ve finished top 1000 in every faction event since last April. If I can do that, then pretty much anyone in this game can.
And as far as boosts, I've picked the right missions and have been burning through med boosts on 2 shuttles. 3 McCoys and found 2 3 seaters that I spread the two between and used the med boosts on those . Almost down to 100 on the Med. Been rationing in the Sec as much as possible sometimes picking secondary skill boosts.
It all depends on what crew you have. I don’t have any good McCoys, my FLFE Warship Yar is only 2/4*, my FL Duelist Yar is only 2/4* (one rare GPL from FE), and I haven’t had spare chrons to work on the 3/4* Tsunkatse Seven I got from splurging on packs. Immortalized Drone Seven and Temp. Agent Seven are all I really have and they’re not getting the job done...the last couple of Faction events I’ve hung around 1500-3500 but now I'm languishing in the low 4000s.
Contrast with the last Ghost In The Machine rerun, where my huge stable of Hologram characters helped me finish at 799 (and could have been somewhere between 350 and 400 If RL hadn’t gotten in the way).
It all depends on what crew you have. I don’t have any good McCoys, my FLFE Warship Yar is only 2/4*, my FL Duelist Yar is only 2/4* (one rare GPL from FE), and I haven’t had spare chrons to work on the 3/4* Tsunkatse Seven I got from splurging on packs. Immortalized Drone Seven and Temp. Agent Seven are all I really have and they’re not getting the job done...the last couple of Faction events I’ve hung around 1500-3500 but now I'm languishing in the low 4000s.
Contrast with the last Ghost In The Machine rerun, where my huge stable of Hologram characters helped me finish at 799 (and could have been somewhere between 350 and 400 If RL hadn’t gotten in the way).
That's the both the good and the bad of Faction events. Getting a deep enough crew to have bonus characters. If you take time and develop your crew over time it gets a lot easier. (key phrase there is over time.)
How are your voyage durations? That's been the key for me in getting my event threshold characters up in the last several factions.
It all depends on what crew you have. I don’t have any good McCoys, my FLFE Warship Yar is only 2/4*, my FL Duelist Yar is only 2/4* (one rare GPL from FE), and I haven’t had spare chrons to work on the 3/4* Tsunkatse Seven I got from splurging on packs. Immortalized Drone Seven and Temp. Agent Seven are all I really have and they’re not getting the job done...the last couple of Faction events I’ve hung around 1500-3500 but now I'm languishing in the low 4000s.
Contrast with the last Ghost In The Machine rerun, where my huge stable of Hologram characters helped me finish at 799 (and could have been somewhere between 350 and 400 If RL hadn’t gotten in the way).
That's the both the good and the bad of Faction events. Getting a deep enough crew to have bonus characters. If you take time and develop your crew over time it gets a lot easier. (key phrase there is over time.)
How are your voyage durations? That's been the key for me in getting my event threshold characters up in the last several factions.
Depending on the skills, I can usually go 6-7 hours before recalling or extending. I’ve shied away from sending my very best crew (Borg Queen, Crell Moset, Grand Nagus Rom, Mirror Kirk, etc.) in the past but in the last few weeks have been more open to it. In fact, I have Mirror Picard, AOS Crusher, and Kortar all on my voyage running right now.
So. Many. Fails. I've heard that F2P players can win faction events, but I'm baffled as to how, when I always do so abysmally. I'm a monthly card player (with a few splurges on 10 x 10 and event packs in the past), level 64, VIP 11, and I nearly always fall to around 3k by this point. Yes, I know - RNG. But it still seems illogical that I should be so weak in every faction event.
For this one, my squadron leader has shared immortal Dark Ages McCoy. And I'm using 3/4 Duelist Yar (waiting on that phaser to be FE), Temporal Seven, Drone Seven, Warship Yar, Drafted McCoy and Prisoner McCoy (all immortal), plus 1/5 level 100 Seven of Nine and 1/4 level 100 Katra McCoy. AND I've been using boosts, although I've also heard that they don't affect the outcome and it's all down to RNG.
F2Ps obviously don't buy event packs (and I don't any more - diminishing returns), but even with my very deep crew, I can't see how I'll even end up with ONE Tsunkatse Seven.
Sorry - just feeling frustrated after six consecutive shuttle fails.
F2P players have won a galaxy event, but I don't think they have ever won a faction.
If I can do that, then pretty much anyone in this game can.
Some people can't send shuttles each 3 hours 24/24. Health issues and all that. And that is pretty much THE requirement for FTP/monthly top 1000 besides decentish crew and some boosters. One missed run is around 200 places, which for four days of regular sleep solidly puts you out of top-1000.
I’ve been hovering in the mid 500’s so far this event, and a quarter of my fleet, who are all VIP 0 as well, are in the top 1000. It takes some work, but it is possible to do well, even without great crew. I myself only have 6 event crew this go around.
And before someone comes in and say that it takes months of saving boosts and we can only do it once in a while, I’ve finished top 1000 in every faction event since last April. If I can do that, then pretty much anyone in this game can.
Daaaaaaaaaamn! I'll have to figure out where I'm going wrong, then. Hopefully by next week. Because I WANT that Horta!
"There are two types of beings in the universe - those who dance, and those who do not."
F2P players have won a galaxy event, but I don't think they have ever won a faction.
That pretty much requires cadeting boosters for an year. Possible, but people prefer top-1000 all the time and don't want to sacrifice it for once-a-year top-1.
You have to pick only the optimal missions for the crew you have. I almost always run the 3 slot missions, maybe a 4 slotter once in a while. And pick the best boost for your bonus crew skills.
4 shuttles each 3 hours like a clock... or more like with a clock of alarm variety. With solid booster backup it's top-1000 even with mediocre crew.
That's just it. I DO that. I never turn my phone off and I send shuttles out in the night as well. (I just get up a lot - I don't actually set an alarm.) I do only have 3 shuttles, though. Maybe that's where I'm going wrong...
"There are two types of beings in the universe - those who dance, and those who do not."
I do only have 3 shuttles, though. Maybe that's where I'm going wrong...
That's exactly it. It's impossible to compete in most events with 3 shuttles. Well, depending on crew certainly, it's possible not to have crew for 4th shuttle but then you are losing that event anyway.
I'm soooo thankful for Steam offers being that cheap...
So. Many. Fails. I've heard that F2P players can win faction events, but I'm baffled as to how, when I always do so abysmally. I'm a monthly card player (with a few splurges on 10 x 10 and event packs in the past), level 64, VIP 11, and I nearly always fall to around 3k by this point. Yes, I know - RNG. But it still seems illogical that I should be so weak in every faction event.
For this one, my squadron leader has shared immortal Dark Ages McCoy. And I'm using 3/4 Duelist Yar (waiting on that phaser to be FE), Temporal Seven, Drone Seven, Warship Yar, Drafted McCoy and Prisoner McCoy (all immortal), plus 1/5 level 100 Seven of Nine and 1/4 level 100 Katra McCoy. AND I've been using boosts, although I've also heard that they don't affect the outcome and it's all down to RNG.
F2Ps obviously don't buy event packs (and I don't any more - diminishing returns), but even with my very deep crew, I can't see how I'll even end up with ONE Tsunkatse Seven.
Sorry - just feeling frustrated after six consecutive shuttle fails.
You have to pick only the optimal missions for the crew you have. I almost always run the 3 slot missions, maybe a 4 slotter once in a while. And pick the best boost for your bonus crew skills.
I actually just open four and run em, selecting which of the four is best first and going through them until all four are filled, even if there's a five-seater or two in there. I just can't stand to throw merits down the drain like that. I do make sure I use a skill boost every time though. I've finished just above or below 200 for the last several.
You have to pick only the optimal missions for the crew you have. I almost always run the 3 slot missions, maybe a 4 slotter once in a while. And pick the best boost for your bonus crew skills.
It also depends on what crew you have. I absolutely hate leaving transmissions open, and I've done the first four I've opened all event (even if they are 4 and 5 seaters). I'm sitting around 500th place (last I checked).
4 shuttles each 3 hours like a clock... or more like with a clock of alarm variety. With solid booster backup it's top-1000 even with mediocre crew.
That's just it. I DO that. I never turn my phone off and I send shuttles out in the night as well. (I just get up a lot - I don't actually set an alarm.) I do only have 3 shuttles, though. Maybe that's where I'm going wrong...
I went to 4 shuttles a few months ago. I took ages saving up the dil (and I like to spend it a little bit here and there so it wasn't easy not doing that) but as soon as I got my fourth and joined a decent fleet then BAM I haven't been under threshold ever since and I'm starting to win extra crew. This event I've been in the top 1000 for most of it, though RNGesus played tricksters last night and failed all 4 shuttles for the first time.
This is an unusual event, I don't have a good depth of crew yet but because bonus crew is so limited I don't think anyone else does either. So far I'm ranking higher than ever in a Faction, top 1000 (a 'win') is within reach, whereas running 3 shuttles I was barely able to make it to 70,000.
Its really worth it, for dailies even if not for events.
4 shuttles each 3 hours like a clock... or more like with a clock of alarm variety. With solid booster backup it's top-1000 even with mediocre crew.
That's just it. I DO that. I never turn my phone off and I send shuttles out in the night as well. (I just get up a lot - I don't actually set an alarm.) I do only have 3 shuttles, though. Maybe that's where I'm going wrong...
I went to 4 shuttles a few months ago. I took ages saving up the dil (and I like to spend it a little bit here and there so it wasn't easy not doing that) but as soon as I got my fourth and joined a decent fleet then BAM I haven't been under threshold ever since and I'm starting to win extra crew. This event I've been in the top 1000 for most of it, though RNGesus played tricksters last night and failed all 4 shuttles for the first time.
This is an unusual event, I don't have a good depth of crew yet but because bonus crew is so limited I don't think anyone else does either. So far I'm ranking higher than ever in a Faction, top 1000 (a 'win') is within reach, whereas running 3 shuttles I was barely able to make it to 70,000.
Its really worth it, for dailies even if not for events.
Best of luck. I hope you make it under 1k.
I'll also add that four shuttles is essential for placing to with the legendary.
Is anyone having trouble accessing the 9.99 Duelist Yar offer? It's showing as locked on my system. I've put a screenshot in Engineering. Tried reloading multiple times, doesn't affect it.
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Is anyone having trouble accessing the 9.99 Duelist Yar offer? It's showing as locked on my system. I've put a screenshot in Engineering. Tried reloading multiple times, doesn't affect it.
Ive had some offers do this recently. I just kept restarting and eventually it unlocked. It has taken 10-12 restarts in some cases.
Is anyone having trouble accessing the 9.99 Duelist Yar offer? It's showing as locked on my system. I've put a screenshot in Engineering. Tried reloading multiple times, doesn't affect it.
Ive had some offers do this recently. I just kept restarting and eventually it unlocked. It has taken 10-12 restarts in some cases.
Last offer this happened to me on I ended up hard restarting my phone and getting it.
So. Many. Fails. I've heard that F2P players can win faction events, but I'm baffled as to how, when I always do so abysmally. I'm a monthly card player (with a few splurges on 10 x 10 and event packs in the past), level 64, VIP 11, and I nearly always fall to around 3k by this point. Yes, I know - RNG. But it still seems illogical that I should be so weak in every faction event.
For this one, my squadron leader has shared immortal Dark Ages McCoy. And I'm using 3/4 Duelist Yar (waiting on that phaser to be FE), Temporal Seven, Drone Seven, Warship Yar, Drafted McCoy and Prisoner McCoy (all immortal), plus 1/5 level 100 Seven of Nine and 1/4 level 100 Katra McCoy. AND I've been using boosts, although I've also heard that they don't affect the outcome and it's all down to RNG.
F2Ps obviously don't buy event packs (and I don't any more - diminishing returns), but even with my very deep crew, I can't see how I'll even end up with ONE Tsunkatse Seven.
Sorry - just feeling frustrated after six consecutive shuttle fails.
It's possible, I can guarantee you that.
So, what WOULD it take for an F2P to win an event?
For the current event (which, by most measures, I believe) is low scoring. The leader is at 1,388,304 points. Let's set a target of 1million points.
For starters, let's put them as squad lead. This is usually good for 15-20% of your points, so let's be generous and say 20% (or 200k).
800k Points would mean 200 successful 4000 point shuttles. This means 50 per day. In sets of 4, it would take 12.5 rounds of shuttles per day (so 13 rounds of shuttles, allowing 2 failures per day).
13 rounds per day would mean 1:50 per cycle.
So:
Assuming unlimited 3* time boosts (you'd need 208).
96% Pass rate
Zero ramp-up time
Significant contribution from squad-mates
Would get you to 1million points.
Increasing this to 1.5 million (a more realistic event-winning total), keeping the same 20% squad contribution (300k points) would require 1.2 mil from personal shuttles.
This would take 300 successful 4000 point shuttles, 75 per day, 19 rounds (allows 1 failure per day, or 98.7% pass rate).
19 rounds of shuttles in a 24 hour period would require around 1:15 per cycle. To get that low, you'd need to use a 50/50 split between 4* and 3* time boosts, so about 152 of each.
Things not considered in any of this analysis:
Ramp up time
Unrealistically high pass rates
The simple fact that scoring higher will push others to spend and score higher themselves
All that said, I doubt it's actually feasible for someone to win a faction event as F2P. In nearly two years of playing this game, I have spent very few 4* time boosts and I've accumulated 49. Also, to have the crew to staff 4 shuttles at 95%+ pass rate likely requires some spending as well.
With almost no sleep and carefully watching and using a lot of boosts, I finally barely hit threshold on a faction event. I realize why others disagree, but I like Galaxy better.
With DIL-For-Immortals, it's possible. I'd imagine any serious F2P would put their DIL there first.
Absolutely. Definitely any of us that would have any hope at winning an event would already be at this point.
Now imo I don't see a true vip0 winning a faction event. It's just too easy and quick for the mega whale in the second spot to hit that Dil button and run a bunch of shuttles in a matter of minutes to outpace. Yes, if I wanted to save up my time boosts over some vast amount of time, pick the perfect low-interest repeat event where I have the right event and bonus crew then maybe it's possible.
But what it comes down to is this. You can't play this game effectively as a F2P unless you have a tight control of resource management and efficient resource expenditure. This is the one thing we can do that lets us grow to the point where we're even able to compete. And the last thing I would want to do, is then blow an extreme amount of resources like this for a minimal reward that won't help me much.
Could I? Maybe. But if I was the type of player that would, then I wouldn't have gotten where I already am.
With almost no sleep and carefully watching and using a lot of boosts, I finally barely hit threshold on a faction event. I realize why others disagree, but I like Galaxy better.
Since early October. I got a monthly card a few weeks ago so I now have three shuttles and dilithium saved so in another 2 weeks, I'll have the 4 th.
Yeah, that's about where I was this time last year. Give it time (I think it was around May that I started hitting the 1000s consistently), (and the 4th shuttle). I think once your crew is a bit deeper and you have the 4th shuttle Factions will be a lot easier. Though this next one is going to be a wild ride.
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And before someone comes in and say that it takes months of saving boosts and we can only do it once in a while, I’ve finished top 1000 in every faction event since last April. If I can do that, then pretty much anyone in this game can.
Spending?! Wut dat?! Why?! Why even?!
And as far as boosts, I've picked the right missions and have been burning through med boosts on 2 shuttles. 3 McCoys and found 2 3 seaters that I spread the two between and used the med boosts on those
Still top 1000, so, for me.. that's winning
Contrast with the last Ghost In The Machine rerun, where my huge stable of Hologram characters helped me finish at 799 (and could have been somewhere between 350 and 400 If RL hadn’t gotten in the way).
That's the both the good and the bad of Faction events. Getting a deep enough crew to have bonus characters. If you take time and develop your crew over time it gets a lot easier. (key phrase there is over time.)
How are your voyage durations? That's been the key for me in getting my event threshold characters up in the last several factions.
Depending on the skills, I can usually go 6-7 hours before recalling or extending. I’ve shied away from sending my very best crew (Borg Queen, Crell Moset, Grand Nagus Rom, Mirror Kirk, etc.) in the past but in the last few weeks have been more open to it. In fact, I have Mirror Picard, AOS Crusher, and Kortar all on my voyage running right now.
F2P players have won a galaxy event, but I don't think they have ever won a faction.
Sorry - my mistake!
Daaaaaaaaaamn! I'll have to figure out where I'm going wrong, then. Hopefully by next week. Because I WANT that Horta!
4 shuttles each 3 hours like a clock... or more like with a clock of alarm variety. With solid booster backup it's top-1000 even with mediocre crew.
That's just it. I DO that. I never turn my phone off and I send shuttles out in the night as well. (I just get up a lot - I don't actually set an alarm.) I do only have 3 shuttles, though. Maybe that's where I'm going wrong...
I'm soooo thankful for Steam offers being that cheap...
It's possible, I can guarantee you that.
I actually just open four and run em, selecting which of the four is best first and going through them until all four are filled, even if there's a five-seater or two in there. I just can't stand to throw merits down the drain like that. I do make sure I use a skill boost every time though. I've finished just above or below 200 for the last several.
It also depends on what crew you have. I absolutely hate leaving transmissions open, and I've done the first four I've opened all event (even if they are 4 and 5 seaters). I'm sitting around 500th place (last I checked).
I went to 4 shuttles a few months ago. I took ages saving up the dil (and I like to spend it a little bit here and there so it wasn't easy not doing that) but as soon as I got my fourth and joined a decent fleet then BAM I haven't been under threshold ever since and I'm starting to win extra crew. This event I've been in the top 1000 for most of it, though RNGesus played tricksters last night and failed all 4 shuttles for the first time.
This is an unusual event, I don't have a good depth of crew yet but because bonus crew is so limited I don't think anyone else does either. So far I'm ranking higher than ever in a Faction, top 1000 (a 'win') is within reach, whereas running 3 shuttles I was barely able to make it to 70,000.
Its really worth it, for dailies even if not for events.
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Best of luck. I hope you make it under 1k.
I'll also add that four shuttles is essential for placing to with the legendary.
Ive had some offers do this recently. I just kept restarting and eventually it unlocked. It has taken 10-12 restarts in some cases.
Last offer this happened to me on I ended up hard restarting my phone and getting it.
So, what WOULD it take for an F2P to win an event?
For the current event (which, by most measures, I believe) is low scoring. The leader is at 1,388,304 points. Let's set a target of 1million points.
For starters, let's put them as squad lead. This is usually good for 15-20% of your points, so let's be generous and say 20% (or 200k).
800k Points would mean 200 successful 4000 point shuttles. This means 50 per day. In sets of 4, it would take 12.5 rounds of shuttles per day (so 13 rounds of shuttles, allowing 2 failures per day).
13 rounds per day would mean 1:50 per cycle.
So:
Assuming unlimited 3* time boosts (you'd need 208).
96% Pass rate
Zero ramp-up time
Significant contribution from squad-mates
Would get you to 1million points.
Increasing this to 1.5 million (a more realistic event-winning total), keeping the same 20% squad contribution (300k points) would require 1.2 mil from personal shuttles.
This would take 300 successful 4000 point shuttles, 75 per day, 19 rounds (allows 1 failure per day, or 98.7% pass rate).
19 rounds of shuttles in a 24 hour period would require around 1:15 per cycle. To get that low, you'd need to use a 50/50 split between 4* and 3* time boosts, so about 152 of each.
Things not considered in any of this analysis:
All that said, I doubt it's actually feasible for someone to win a faction event as F2P. In nearly two years of playing this game, I have spent very few 4* time boosts and I've accumulated 49. Also, to have the crew to staff 4 shuttles at 95%+ pass rate likely requires some spending as well.
An FTP wouldn't have 4 shuttles, no?
With DIL-For-Immortals, it's possible. I'd imagine any serious F2P would put their DIL there first.
That’s what I did. Doesn’t require a ton of immortalized crew either.
Now imo I don't see a true vip0 winning a faction event. It's just too easy and quick for the mega whale in the second spot to hit that Dil button and run a bunch of shuttles in a matter of minutes to outpace. Yes, if I wanted to save up my time boosts over some vast amount of time, pick the perfect low-interest repeat event where I have the right event and bonus crew then maybe it's possible.
But what it comes down to is this. You can't play this game effectively as a F2P unless you have a tight control of resource management and efficient resource expenditure. This is the one thing we can do that lets us grow to the point where we're even able to compete. And the last thing I would want to do, is then blow an extreme amount of resources like this for a minimal reward that won't help me much.
Could I? Maybe. But if I was the type of player that would, then I wouldn't have gotten where I already am.
How long you been playing again?
Yeah, that's about where I was this time last year. Give it time (I think it was around May that I started hitting the 1000s consistently), (and the 4th shuttle). I think once your crew is a bit deeper and you have the 4th shuttle Factions will be a lot easier. Though this next one is going to be a wild ride.