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  • Data1001Data1001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2018
    Since I haven't seen DS9 in about 20 years, I am feeling left out because I don't remember who Vreenak is... I will happily take the other 2 crew this week and get to chill out from an event for a week I guess. ;)

    Senator Vreenak was the romulan representative Captain Sisko met with during the Dominion war to try to convince him to join the war against the Dominion. Sisko had hired Garak to find evidence that the Dominion was going to attack the Romulans. When none could be found Garak manufactured the evidence. Senator Vreenak inspected the evidence and declared it to be fake, saying, "it's a fake!" More happens after that. Watch for yourself, "In the Pale Moonlight" Season 6 Episode 19.

    And he's arguably much more famous for being a meme, which is apparently a big reason that certain folks here seem to be so excited about him. :p

    But seeing as we recently got Meme Picard and now we have Meme Vreenak, may I suggest a new version of First Maje Culluh, with a new take on an old meme?

    j6t4ovdkbibv.jpg


    Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.
    ~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
  • Dralix wrote: »
    das411 wrote: »
    does anyone else kinda sorta hope he says any of his great quotes like "In a different reality...i could have called you friend" or "one last duty to perform..."??

    "He's a sorcerer, that one. He reads the thoughts in my brain."

    I haven't seen a sound clip for a 4* card in a long time but that would be cool.

    Have we ever had a non-starring cast get a sound clip?

    Most of the Q variants have clips, but I can't think of any others.
  • AntasilAntasil ✭✭✭✭
    Dralix wrote: »
    das411 wrote: »
    does anyone else kinda sorta hope he says any of his great quotes like "In a different reality...i could have called you friend" or "one last duty to perform..."??

    "He's a sorcerer, that one. He reads the thoughts in my brain."

    I haven't seen a sound clip for a 4* card in a long time but that would be cool.

    Have we ever had a non-starring cast get a sound clip?

    Most of the Q variants have clips, but I can't think of any others.

    Khan has several sound clips...
  • YateballYateball ✭✭✭✭✭
    Data1001 wrote: »
    Since I haven't seen DS9 in about 20 years, I am feeling left out because I don't remember who Vreenak is... I will happily take the other 2 crew this week and get to chill out from an event for a week I guess. ;)

    Senator Vreenak was the romulan representative Captain Sisko met with during the Dominion war to try to convince him to join the war against the Dominion. Sisko had hired Garak to find evidence that the Dominion was going to attack the Romulans. When none could be found Garak manufactured the evidence. Senator Vreenak inspected the evidence and declared it to be fake, saying, "it's a fake!" More happens after that. Watch for yourself, "In the Pale Moonlight" Season 6 Episode 19.

    And he's arguably much more famous for being a meme, which is apparently a big reason that certain folks here seem to be so excited about him. :p

    But seeing as we recently got Meme Picard and now we have Meme Vreenak, may I suggest a new version of First Maje Culluh, with a new take on an old meme?

    j6t4ovdkbibv.jpg

    I don't want him because of his meme culture whatsoever, I wanted him added because he's such a big part of arguably the best episode of Trek well, ever. He's also wonderfully smug, the perfect Romulan
  • RennJaxoRennJaxo ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yateball wrote: »
    Data1001 wrote: »
    Since I haven't seen DS9 in about 20 years, I am feeling left out because I don't remember who Vreenak is... I will happily take the other 2 crew this week and get to chill out from an event for a week I guess. ;)

    Senator Vreenak was the romulan representative Captain Sisko met with during the Dominion war to try to convince him to join the war against the Dominion. Sisko had hired Garak to find evidence that the Dominion was going to attack the Romulans. When none could be found Garak manufactured the evidence. Senator Vreenak inspected the evidence and declared it to be fake, saying, "it's a fake!" More happens after that. Watch for yourself, "In the Pale Moonlight" Season 6 Episode 19.

    And he's arguably much more famous for being a meme, which is apparently a big reason that certain folks here seem to be so excited about him. :p

    But seeing as we recently got Meme Picard and now we have Meme Vreenak, may I suggest a new version of First Maje Culluh, with a new take on an old meme?

    j6t4ovdkbibv.jpg

    I don't want him because of his meme culture whatsoever, I wanted him added because he's such a big part of arguably the best episode of Trek well, ever. He's also wonderfully smug, the perfect Romulan

    Agreed. I actually kind of wish that they'd put him in a different pose. I know the "IT'S A FAAAAKE" pose is iconic and everyone was expecting it, but it's a bit too memey for my tastes. Also, storywise, it doesn't really make sense that in Timelines he'd still be roaming the galaxy complaining about that data rod and shoving it in everyone's faces.
  • YateballYateball ✭✭✭✭✭
    RennJaxo wrote: »
    Yateball wrote: »
    Data1001 wrote: »
    Since I haven't seen DS9 in about 20 years, I am feeling left out because I don't remember who Vreenak is... I will happily take the other 2 crew this week and get to chill out from an event for a week I guess. ;)

    Senator Vreenak was the romulan representative Captain Sisko met with during the Dominion war to try to convince him to join the war against the Dominion. Sisko had hired Garak to find evidence that the Dominion was going to attack the Romulans. When none could be found Garak manufactured the evidence. Senator Vreenak inspected the evidence and declared it to be fake, saying, "it's a fake!" More happens after that. Watch for yourself, "In the Pale Moonlight" Season 6 Episode 19.

    And he's arguably much more famous for being a meme, which is apparently a big reason that certain folks here seem to be so excited about him. :p

    But seeing as we recently got Meme Picard and now we have Meme Vreenak, may I suggest a new version of First Maje Culluh, with a new take on an old meme?

    j6t4ovdkbibv.jpg

    I don't want him because of his meme culture whatsoever, I wanted him added because he's such a big part of arguably the best episode of Trek well, ever. He's also wonderfully smug, the perfect Romulan

    Agreed. I actually kind of wish that they'd put him in a different pose. I know the "IT'S A FAAAAKE" pose is iconic and everyone was expecting it, but it's a bit too memey for my tastes. Also, storywise, it doesn't really make sense that in Timelines he'd still be roaming the galaxy complaining about that data rod and shoving it in everyone's faces.

    Lounging back with some replicated Romulan Ale would have been an ok pose for me too
  • YateballYateball ✭✭✭✭✭
    The stats are just ok... definitely not amazing
  • barrydancerbarrydancer ✭✭✭✭✭
    Vreenak has his famous line, so I'm happy. :)
  • Lady GaghgaghLady Gaghgagh ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yateball wrote: »
    The stats are just ok... definitely not amazing

    Where are the stats posted?
    Admiral of the Haus of GaghGagh, Starbase level 94, we are not accepting members at this time.
    Captain of the voyage vessels: Queen of Bashir, Landsknecht, and Sunspear, the first luxury starship cruiseliners.
    Amenities include wifi, fully-functioning holodecks, a full-service bar, 3 party decks, a Trill spa, and a business centre.
    Fun fact: The ships are propelled by bouncy castle technology.
  • Captain TJCaptain TJ ✭✭
    edited April 2018
    😡🤬😡🤬. Of COURSE DB would put Romulan Kirk in the 3k rank and better reward! Those who can reach the top 3k probably don’t need him or need to close him out, those of us who need to close him out, can’t reach him! Despite being at level 60 and having 33 Five Star crewman fully equipped at level 100, the probably statistics ALWAYS screws me over and I refuse to PAY for boosters! I’ll never get there. 😡😡😡
  • (HGH)Apollo(HGH)Apollo ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah this really **tsk tsk**. I am super disappointed. With the exception of Surak this whole mega event has been terrible. I always defend db when people rag on them but I see no way to defend this. They dont even have a lot of traits, just four each. As bad as Vreenak is, Keras is even worse. Who will even buy packs for these? DB is not gonna make much money this event.
    Let’s fly!
  • YateballYateball ✭✭✭✭✭
    Got him first pack.... I'M so happy :D
  • Yateball wrote: »
    The stats are just ok... definitely not amazing

    Where are the stats posted?

    https://forum.disruptorbeam.com/stt/discussion/4954/faction-event-notes-fire-with-fire-mega-event-part-3#latest

    In Starfleet Communications
  • SiblinSiblin ✭✭✭
    Whoop - pulled vrenak in my one and only pack pull!
  • [7TW] UnkieB[7TW] UnkieB ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wtf DB? You ruined this event with how terrible the stats and skills are for the crew. I was going to buy a bunch of packs but forget that now. Those stats are terrible! And both are just boring command and diplomacy? Really!?! How does Vreenak figure out that the cardassian data rod is a fake if he doesnt have any science or engineering!?!

    Yeah, getting tired of event after event with, in general, 4*'s only fit for freezing (a lot of them only 2 mediocre stats at that) and most 1/5's with 2 skills that will linger forever in the depths of the crew quarters since even at 4 or 5 stars they're only "okay" let alone at 1 or 2 stars. Used to be nice when you'd get crew that could actually help improve your roster, but lately it seems like some of these guys were created with 2016 stats or something.

  • At least Keras is useful in two collections.
  • Ok, just got a look at the new crew and their traits. I have to say, I like the art for Vreenak but Keras kinda looks like someone wearing a Mark Lenard mask.

    Also, I’m not sure I would have given Keras the Villain trait. After all, he wasn’t overly malicious or evil, just a Romulan soldier doing what he was told. Khan and Shinzon were villains, Keras was not.

    Oh, and one more thing. Why in the world did they not give Keras the Tactician trait? He used tactics and counter-tactics in that episode and could even predict and outmaneuver Kirk. That makes him, kinda by definition, a tactician.

    Agree 100%. While I am delighted to finally see him in the game, I am less than thrilled with the stats and traits. Certainly anyone who could match wits with Kirk should have Tactician-and Security. And the man was no villain but a dedicated soldier. Veteran might have been another option.
  • FutureImperfectaFutureImperfecta ✭✭✭✭✭
    DB, please tell me the stats and skills are are untrue.. tell me that tomorrow just before the event starts that at least one of those two characters grows a third skill and new traits..

    Tell us these are fakes !!!
    Soooo disappointed right now.

    (Headshakes)
    In the spirit of doing the reverse if everything we hope for, ask for and would pay for can you please finish off this mega with

    Romulan Janeway 5* 1 skill (Engineering, of course)
    Romulan Worf 4* (makes just as much sense as the rest of this stuff, oh and.. make him medical & Engineering please)
    And no event can be complete without..
    Vulcan Deanna Troi, 4* ( Security, Engineering and Command). She's decided to forsake her Betazoid heritage and Follow the path of Surak.
    Don't forget the telepathic suppression device so she can't feel any emotions, even from other people that takes 12 x 4* databases in reach of her clothing patterns from level 40 and above.

    This is what we really want !! :D
    Oh, and raise prices on everything too !
  • Ok, just got a look at the new crew and their traits. I have to say, I like the art for Vreenak but Keras kinda looks like someone wearing a Mark Lenard mask.

    Also, I’m not sure I would have given Keras the Villain trait. After all, he wasn’t overly malicious or evil, just a Romulan soldier doing what he was told. Khan and Shinzon were villains, Keras was not.

    Oh, and one more thing. Why in the world did they not give Keras the Tactician trait? He used tactics and counter-tactics in that episode and could even predict and outmaneuver Kirk. That makes him, kinda by definition, a tactician.

    DB clearly never watched the episode.

    He's the one Romulan everyone's wanted for a long time. Then they go and make him garbage.

    This Vulcan/Romulan mega has been disappointingly one-sided. The Vulcans are really good, and there are a lot of them. The Romulans are pathetic, bland, and the traits are backwards.
  • Captain LostCaptain Lost ✭✭✭✭
    I got Vreenak after just one pull! He even has the voice clip!
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  • FutureImperfectaFutureImperfecta ✭✭✭✭✭
    I got Vreenak after just one pull! He even has the voice clip!
    pTUZeoD.png

    At least they did that and the art right.

    (Mumbles at self, stupid 2 skill.)
  • Automaton_2000Automaton_2000 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would imagine that from DB's perspective, packs sell when the characters are either highly sought after or have impressive stats. If they're one or the other then different demos will buy packs, but if they're both then they'd be releasing a lot of 'meh' crew that are neither.

    At least, that's the only rationale I can fathom to explain why the incomparable, legendary, iconic Xindi insectoid counselor is the second strongest voyage crew in the totality of the Star Trek universe.
  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's Romulans in this game in general. I mean really, how many Roms made it onto folks shuttles so far in the prior faction? TRul, maybe Data (who's just pretending to be Romulan), maybe one or two others?

    I get the impression that DB thinks that all Romulans are stupid, weak and easily dismissed from being relevant to gameplay. And I'm not just talking power creep.
  • The Great GornholioThe Great Gornholio ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2018
    Pallidyne wrote: »
    That's Romulans in this game in general. I mean really, how many Roms made it onto folks shuttles so far in the prior faction? TRul, maybe Data (who's just pretending to be Romulan), maybe one or two others?

    I get the impression that DB thinks that all Romulans are stupid, weak and easily dismissed from being relevant to gameplay. And I'm not just talking power creep.

    I believe it. They hyped up a Vulcan Romulan ~inappropriate acronym snipped that are both 2 skill crap trash garbage crew. Is this to "improve" our player experience like the voyage nerf or the faction event nerf? I see their game... they nerf the events and then create crew with horrible stats so you don't want to play the event. I see your game DB, I just have no idea what your game is.
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