Observation of stuff dropped by voyages

Marakith Dax

Has anyone noticed, anecdotally, that the two skills selected has an impact on what drops?
I have noticed if I have CMD as primary/secondary I get more replicator rations but never 4* crew.
So much, that I am rather disappointed when I see the CMD skill.

But if DIP is a skill, without CMD, I get more 4* crew and lot less replicator rations.

And some voyages are chrono heavy, or in 1/2* crew, but haven't picked up on the pattern for those.

I am aware of what my dilemmas drop, and discount these instances.

I pop in and out so much that I haven't keep track statistically yet, but probably should start recording my end of voyage results?

Dirk Gunderson

This seems like it might be worth gathering data on.

Banjo1012

You may be on to something. I had DIP/ENG and it dropped 3 4* in 9.5 hours. Before that I had COM/MED with no 4*. Omma pay attention to this

DavideBooks

People have been talking about this, but I've never seen a breakdown. If anyone sets one up, I'll give my observation on my current 12 hour voyage: Engineering primary and science secondary does not favor crew or rations, nor do the chronitons seem heavy. It does seem like the two star random equipment/parts is high.

[7TW] UnkieB

I haven't tracked my voyages in a long time, but may have to try doing so for a while.

Just recalled my current one at the 8h 44m 18s mark, SEC/SCI.

1x 4* crew, T'Mir (no other crew drops outside of dilemmas)
13 honor (outside of dilemmas)
20 gold, 82 purple, 64 blue trainers
17 purple, 35 blue, 15 green rations
575 chrons
38400 credits
25x 2* items
33x 1* items
15x 0* items

[SSR] Baragash

Dip/Cmd, 8 hours, 2 4* crew.

Irial

My current Voyage at the time I first read this thread, which had CMD as its secondary skill, was by far the luckiest Voyage I have ever seen, with respect to getting 4* crew

Commander Sinclair

I have noticed MED primary seems to drop a LOT of 1/2* crew, but only spotty on 4*. Also gives ridiculous trainers and more replicator rations than ENG/SEC.

I agree I would like to start tracking this as well. I often cringe when I see MED/SCI as primary and/or secondary, because I know it will be less than ideal for rewards.

[FF] Frylock IBOL17

That's an interesting idea. I have absolutely noticed that sometimes i get 3 4* (though rare), but MANY of my 8hr voyages don't even return a single 3*... never thought it might be tied to skills

For Cardassia

I sense a spreadsheet in the works

DavideBooks

These are two recent voyages I kept extending because they kept dropping crew and rations.

Althea Biermont

If someone is going to try to garner some statistics out of this stuff, here you go. I'm listing stuff I didn't get as well so I can use it as a template for future runs.

Primary - Security
Secondary - Medicine
Time - 9 hours, 2 minutes

Honor - 202
Credits - 37,400
4* Crew - 0
3* Crew - 2
2* Crew - 3
1* Crew - 1
5* Replicator Rations - 0
4* Replicator Rations - 33
3* Replicator Rations - 0
2* Replicator Rations - 0
Chronitons - 392
5* Trainers - 64
4* Trainers - 72
3* Trainers - 34
4* Items - 0
2* Items - 29
1* Items - 57
0* Items - 19

[7TW] UnkieB

[7TW] UnkieB wrote: »

I haven't tracked my voyages in a long time, but may have to try doing so for a while.

Just recalled my current one at the 8h 44m 18s mark, SEC/SCI.

1x 4* crew, T'Mir (no other crew drops outside of dilemmas)
13 honor (outside of dilemmas)
20 gold, 82 purple, 64 blue trainers
17 purple, 35 blue, 15 green rations
575 chrons
38400 credits
25x 2* items
33x 1* items
15x 0* items

8h 48m 12s
SCI/CMD

380 chrons
2x blue, 1x green crew (outside of dilemmas)
27 honor (outside of dilemmas)
46 gold, 88 purple, 40 blue trainers
36,700 credits
17 purple, 44 blue rations
33x 2* items
42x 1* items
17x 0* items

DavideBooks

My sci com voyage seemed to favor rations. No blue or purple crew, seven hours.

Muffan

Security primary voyage heavy on trainers.

[S14] Elynduil

Commander Sinclair wrote: »

I have noticed MED primary seems to drop a LOT of 1/2* crew, but only spotty on 4*. Also gives ridiculous trainers and more replicator rations than ENG/SEC.

I agree I would like to start tracking this as well. I often cringe when I see MED/SCI as primary and/or secondary, because I know it will be less than ideal for rewards.

Just finished a MED/ENG that dropped 6 purples, but I did run it over 12 hours (kept missing the mark while at work...) Another curious factor was that 3 of the 6 was new (first star). That doesn't happen that often for me anymore.

Althea Biermont

Latest Voyage

Primary - Engineering
Secondary - Medicine
Time - 8 hours, 55 minutes

Honor - 240
Credits - 36,400
4* Crew - 1
3* Crew - 0
2* Crew - 3
1* Crew - 0
5* Replicator Rations - 0
4* Replicator Rations - 12
3* Replicator Rations - 0
2* Replicator Rations - 3
Chronitons - 444
5* Trainers - 44
4* Trainers - 76
3* Trainers - 36
4* Items - 0
2* Items - 36
1* Items - 53
0* Items - 21

Dirk Gunderson

COM/MED, recalled around 8 hours 20 minutes:

-245 honor
-Crew: Racquetball Bashir, Naomi Wildman, Persis, 2* Riker
-Trainers: 42 5*, 84 4*, 34 3*
-39,700 credits
-Replicator rations: 5 5*, 16 4*, 15 2*,
-2* items: 3 casings, 5 incense, 1 interlink, 1 isolinear chips, 4 expansion modules, 2 clothing patterns, 2 Starfleet uniform patterns, 2 polyalloy, 1 relay, 3 sensors, 1 subprocessor
-1* items: 3 alcohol, 3 casings, 1 incense, 4 interlinks, 6 GPL, 1 expansion module, 4 Starfleet uniform patterns, 3 synthetic polymers, 2 power cells, 5 sensors
-0* items: 2 alcohol, 2 microconnectors, 1 emitter crystal, 2 GPL, 3 expansion modules, 4 optronic circuits, 2 Starfleet uniform patterns, 2 polyalloy, 2 synthetic polymers, 2 relays
-392 chrons

~peregrine~

I had a CMD/SEC crew recently that I ran twice to 8+ hours each (no refills), and only 1 of them dropped a 4* (three, actually). The drops & dilemmas are entirely up to RNG, methinks. 🖖🏻

Captain Sisko [AA]

Would be interesting if there was a correlation, I've noticed that some voyages tend to award more Chrons, some accumulate 4* crew, etc. Never tied it to the stats presented though, always attributed it RNG.

I'll post my current Voyage data as well if it helps:

Primary stat: DIP
Secondary stat: MED
Time: 19 Hrs, 24 Mins

Honor: 628
Credits: 96,400
Chronitons: 1290

4* Replicator Rations: 53
3* Replicator Rations: 4

4* Crew: 5
3* Crew: 2
2* Crew: 5

5* Trainers: 234
4* Trainers: 88
3* Trainers: 24

2* Components: 114
1* Components: 39
0* Components: 27

PS. Not sure if it's ever been mentioned elsewhere, but Spices are missing from the component drops. The other 20 all drop.

Lady Gaghgagh

Going to recall a voyage here soon that's CMD (gold), SCI (silver).
So far at 8 hours...
4* crew = 0
3* crew = 1
2* crew = 3
1* crew = 1
Credits = 30k
3* Trainers = 40
4* RRations = 28
3* RRations = 15
Chrons = 451
Honour = 220
And of course numerous components

I'll edit this post if there are any changes before recall (I have 900 AM left)

Ivanstone

SCI - DIP ~8h20
3 common + 1 rare dilemma
Drops:
1 rare + 1 common crew
9 Honour
Rations: 28x 4*, 16x 3*, 2x 2*
Trainers: 36x5*, 68x4*, 32x3*
Credits: 35600
Chronitons: 253

Commander Sinclair

I have a Voyage running now, then will be able to track at least 12 or so on spreadsheet. We'll see what it reveals!

Thank you guys for posting your excerpts.

Here's my 2 latest for anyone else working on this.

SCI 7517 Primary
DIP 7979

10 Hours, 1 min 36 Seconds

CREW
1 4* random crew,
3x4* crew from Dilemmas
1x3* random drops
4x2* all from Dilemmas

Trainers
68x5*
94x4*
50x3*

Replicator Rations:
4x4*
14x3*

47200 credits
645 chrons
236 Honor

+++misc equip
---
9 Hours 58 mins 46 secs
MED 4615 PRIMARY
SCI 5677

CREW:
1X4* RANDOM DROP
2X3* 1 rnd 1xdilemma
4x2* - all dilemma

TRAINERS
50x5*
98x4*
54x3*

Replicator Rations:
15x4*

41300 credits
469 chrons
227 honor

Commander Sinclair

Assimilating data...patterns emerging

Commander Sinclair

Preliminary Results, taken from 7 Voyages lasting between 8-10 hours, and 2 Voyages of 18.75 hours and 19.5 hours.

I will need much more data (At least 10 of each combo) with all combinations of skills as prim/sec to give a full analysis, just to see whether or not there is a pattern.

Combos Rewarding the LEAST amount of 4* crew
CMD/MED, MED/SCI, SEC/MED
Rewarding the least amount of crew overall: SCI/MED

From 8-10 hour voyages only:
Rewarding the MOST 4* Crew: SCI/DIP, CMD/SCI
Rewarding the MOST Replicator Rations: MED/SCI, CMD/SCI
Rewarding the MOST Chrons: SCI/DIP

Credits, Honor, and Trainers seem pretty even average across all skill sets so far. [interesting!]

I am leaning toward SCI/DIP & CMD/SCI for the best choices so far.

More to come...

Dirk Gunderson

MED/COM, recalled right after the 8 hour dilemma.

-Crew: Anastasia Komananoff (from dilemma), Warship Chakotay; Koloth; 2* Wesley (x2), Melora
-268 honor
-Trainers: 60 5*, 96 4*, 44 3*
-46700 credits
-Rep rats: 11 3*
-Equipment/components: 30 2*, 36 1*, 19 0*
-569 chrons

[7TW] UnkieB

8h 25m 33s
MED/CMD

Crew from dilemma's: 2x blue, 2x green
Other crew drops: 0
Honor: 235
Chronitions: 399
Trainers: 58 gold, 80 purple, 50 blue
Rations: 34 blue, 1 green
Credits: 35,700
Items: 17x 2*, 33x 1*, 8x 0*


8h 37m 37s
SCI/ENG

Crew from dilemma's: 4x green
Other crew drops: 1x purple (Nevesa)
Honor: 160
Chronitions: 510
Trainers: 40 gold, 74 purple, 50 blue
Rations: 16 purple, 17 blue, 4 green
Credits: 38,600
Items: 23x 2*, 31x 1*, 9x 0*

DavideBooks

I'm recalling a security and science voyage now. I got to just over 7 hours. Just before 7 hours it dropped a purple crew, so I extended. Just before 8 hours it dropped another. Then no drops up to 14 hours when I recalled. It has a few ration drops, but nothing seeming significant. When I've had voyage dropping times, it has dropped far more. I would say security primary and science secondary is not worth extending for either crew or rations.

Average Guy

Is DIP the most common skill? It's my best skill. If it's everyone's, probably it is easier to get higher values and hence still be passing hazards after the 6 hour mark. Passing more hazards probably has more to do with getting better rewards than the skill itself. I don't think DB would make it that obvious how rewards are handed out given how intelligent the user base has been at figuring things out / finding glitches in the program. My best combo is DIP/SEC. Typically, this combo gives me my best voyages.

Dirk Gunderson

Average Guy wrote: »

Is DIP the most common skill? It's my best skill. If it's everyone's, probably it is easier to get higher values and hence still be passing hazards after the 6 hour mark. Passing more hazards probably has more to do with getting better rewards than the skill itself. I don't think DB would make it that obvious how rewards are handed out given how intelligent the user base has been at figuring things out / finding glitches in the program. My best combo is DIP/SEC. Typically, this combo gives me my best voyages.

My best DIP crew isn’t as strong as my best crew in any other skill (just barely behind ENG) but I have 21 crew with a max combined skill of at least 1200 DIP, whereas COM is a distant second at 15 and SEC is next with 13. I look forward to DIP/COM voyages quite a lot.

AviTrek

Average Guy wrote: »

Is DIP the most common skill? It's my best skill. If it's everyone's, probably it is easier to get higher values and hence still be passing hazards after the 6 hour mark. Passing more hazards probably has more to do with getting better rewards than the skill itself. I don't think DB would make it that obvious how rewards are handed out given how intelligent the user base has been at figuring things out / finding glitches in the program. My best combo is DIP/SEC. Typically, this combo gives me my best voyages.

Any analysis needs to control for Voyage length.