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Alright, it's time to solve the Fully Fused BEHOLD problem.
GhostStalker
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It's happening way too often now, for lots of players.
As I've said in the past, there's an easy way to improve things:
A button, displayed on every behold, that lets you shuffle and get a new set ONCE. If they can't edit the game code to make it only show up on fully fused beholds, then let's just stick it there every time. Make it a standard feature of a Behold. You get one shuffle. That's all. And it's a ONE WAY TRIP, no going back to the first page. If you get another set of FF'd characters, bad luck for you.
This solution is, for lack of a better word, fairly conservative from DB's perspective. What I mean is that it doesn't hurt them that much. Effectively, it turns every Behold into two chances of getting someone you want.
This problem is only going to get worse. Please, DB, think about this.
As I've said in the past, there's an easy way to improve things:
A button, displayed on every behold, that lets you shuffle and get a new set ONCE. If they can't edit the game code to make it only show up on fully fused beholds, then let's just stick it there every time. Make it a standard feature of a Behold. You get one shuffle. That's all. And it's a ONE WAY TRIP, no going back to the first page. If you get another set of FF'd characters, bad luck for you.
This solution is, for lack of a better word, fairly conservative from DB's perspective. What I mean is that it doesn't hurt them that much. Effectively, it turns every Behold into two chances of getting someone you want.
This problem is only going to get worse. Please, DB, think about this.
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Captain Level: 95
VIP Level: 12
Unique Crew Immortalized: 525
Collections Completed: Vulcan, Ferengi, Borg, Romulan, Cardassian, Uncommon, Rare, Veteran, Common, Engineered, Physician, Innovator, Inspiring, Diplomat, Jury Rigger, Gauntlet Legends
Approximately 90% of even my LEGENDARY beholds are already fully fused at this point in the game.
A re-roll would certainly help the redundancy problem.
I really would like the option to get an equivalent citation, but I highly doubt DB would make that an option.
I even would pay dilithium for a 1x shuffle option. Lets say 100?
Immortalized: 140 x 5*, 221 x 4*, 74 x 3*, 47 x 2*, 27 x 1*
Only useful stuff was 100 schematics...
Why do I even buy this...?
Let's assume I meant it's free. But you only get it once. We can't have people paying to keep rolling.
Thank you, I'm nothing if not reasonable.
In a card collection game like this in time dublicates are the most normal thing in the world. Especially with those cards who have a high droprate. Aka up to 4*. Also since they even drop in Voyages.
Personally I don´t see it too gloomy. Sure, there are some cards I don´t even want one copy of
Let´s say you are a fan of a certain character. And in a shuttle event the coolest and strongest version of that character will be introduced.
The more variants AND COPIES you have the better your chances in that event.
Also I surely would not mind FF second copies of FO Burnham, Durango Troi, Dr. Culber or Zhian'tara Odo for example.
Aka cards with a strong base and in the case of Zhian'tara Odo helpful in both Odo and Dax events.
And finally sometimes the most desired card is basically only a copy of another card in new clothes anyway. Like say Captain Killy was of EV Suit Archer.
In the mean time, I'm trying to reduce the chance of getting an SR behold by not FFing characters if I get a behold if I have a choice, but instead adding stars to 1/4 or 2/4 crew, or even adding an entirely new crew.
The only reason DB should consider fixing this "problem", is when it hurts their sales, imho.
Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.
~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
Delete this.
The CCG analogy is flawed. If I buy cards in my local store I can trade them with people there or my mates, so we can much more cheaply get what we want. You cannot do that here,
Furthermore, digital CCGs like Elder Scrolls and Hearthstone allow you to trade with the house at a far more reasonable rate than DB do.
So if a trading option were implemented, it would take your concerns away?
But doubling your chances is still doubling your chances. That's why I've suggested this... It's a step DB can take that I TRULY believe will encourage more people to risk buying packs while still not cutting out of their profit margin. I think it will help sales.
And like I said, the problem is only getting worse, DB.
1. The more crew you acquire, the more often that this will happen. As seen with the post that @Data1001 made, there's a finite number of crew in the game. Regardless of the beholds, the longer you play, the closer you'll be to having all of the crew. Many players already don't make pulls at all because they're just not worth it anymore.
2. Beholds are a gift already. DB doesn't have to give them at all. If they didn't you'd just get a straight drop of a FF/FE crew. We also get duplicate 4* crew in voyages all the time. For some reason, this doesn't instill the rage that is realized in the FF behold. Anyway, DB doesn't have to give us the beholds at all, so from their perspective, asking them to add a "fix" to this is like getting the toy you wanted for Christmas, but then telling your parents that it's not the correct model or version. Asking for a citation is taking it a step further and is like demanding the CASH VALUE for the gift.
3. Offering a citation (as nice as it would be) is WAY overcompensating for an all FF/FE behold. Instead of getting a copy of a specific crew, you get a chance to fuse ANY crew? Think about it, why would they do that?
4. Asking for a reroll is like asking a casino to give you a free spin on a slot machine when you didn't win. Even for 100 dilithium, it's like asking the casino to give you a spin for $1 on a $5 machine when you didn't win. Would any of us even consider asking for that? The RNG, as disappointing as it is at times, is part of the game. We accept that there's a chance that we won't "win."
5. If you're not already used to RNG kicking you in the face and dealing with it (gauntlet crits, voyage drops, shuttle fails, arena evasion, as well as 10x packs) then this may not be the game for you.
If you were that kid at Christmas, how do you think that made your parents feel? They probably felt very hurt, and they were probably less likely to get you what you wanted the next time, maybe only to teach you a lesson. In the interest of our continued entertainment with this game, let's just try to enjoy what gifts have been given to us because no one likes a kid like that. Don't be that kid.
~Captain Picard ST:TNG Chain of Command
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Mariachi Q - Déjà Q Quote - But I feel like celebrating! - Thank You!
H.M.S. Pinafore Data - Insurrection Quote - And his fist be ever ready for a knockdown blow. - Thank You!
Rascal Picard/Guinan - Rascals Quote - I want to see my father!
Kivas Fajo - The Most Toys Quote - What a marvelous contradiction. A military pacifist!
Batai - The Inner Light Quote - This tree is our symbol. Our affirmation of life.
Irumodic Syndrome Picard - All Good Things Quote - You said it was earl grey. I'd swear it was darjeeling. - Thank You!
B-4 - Nemesis Quote - Why do you have a shiny head? - Thank You!
Zero G Worf - First Contact Quote - Assimilate this!
3 would be quite easy to implement as they don't need to do much beyond alter the drop table, 1 and 2 are a little contentious as they make money from suckers buying packs to try and FF them all.
Jim
the biggest problem is it seems that a portion of the player base forgets db is a business and needs to make money and this game is one of the more expensive games to run. the reason for that is it is a trademark type game. they pay CBS and gene rodenbarry to use the star trek tm . they also pay every actor or their estate to use their likeness for each and every card and each and every time they use their voice. all of this adds up to a lot of money. so they need to make it back.
right wrong or indeferent we will probably never get a behold fix that we want because it will eventually lead to lower cash flow which would inhibit either new cards or new content and that would be the end of the game.
You want us to buy these things, right? I get so little from my free pulls that there's no way I'd ever spend money on them. I'm fine playing this game without spending anything, are you?
Since i just had 4 all immortal Legendary beholds again,
i d even pay 250 dilithium for another shuffle.
I wouldn t pay anything for a SR behold though.