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  • I feel like I've definitely had more than 36 shuttle successes and yet my VP is still stuck on 2750.

    Make sure you tell support that you feel that you've had more successes.
    Sisko: What are you gonna learn in the next few months that you haven't already learned in the last 300 years?
    Ezri Dax: Oh, how to keep from breaking into tears for no reason...
  • Dirk GundersonDirk Gunderson ✭✭✭✭✭
    Aaagh I used an overnight boost instead of a time boost on one of the 1200 shuttles

    F. :smiley:

    Kidding aside, we’ve all fat-fingered a button or mixed up a boost from time to time. Don’t beat yourself up too much!
  • Zetterbeard Zetterbeard ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why are there so many science and engineering seats for an event that features Kirk, Troi and Apollo? Is there a way of checking what kind of missions were available for this event the first time?
  • Paladin 27Paladin 27 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why are there so many science and engineering seats for an event that features Kirk, Troi and Apollo? Is there a way of checking what kind of missions were available for this event the first time?

    Here are the first run’s missions

    https://stt.wiki/wiki/Children_of_Apollo/Faction_Missions
  • Zetterbeard Zetterbeard ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2018
    Paladin 27 wrote: »
    Why are there so many science and engineering seats for an event that features Kirk, Troi and Apollo? Is there a way of checking what kind of missions were available for this event the first time?

    Here are the first run’s missions

    https://stt.wiki/wiki/Children_of_Apollo/Faction_Missions

    Thanks.

    I guess these missions always sucked lol.
  • FlemmingFlemming ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am glad I FEd a 1* Survivalist Kirk
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  • There is one bright side to all this apathy. A lot of honor is available if, like me, you have all of the re-run event crew FF. Depending on your exact finishing spot, you should bank well over 2000 honor. Hitting 250k and airlocking the threshold rewards is 2200 alone.
  • Althea BiermontAlthea Biermont ✭✭✭✭✭
    Paladin 27 wrote: »
    Why are there so many science and engineering seats for an event that features Kirk, Troi and Apollo? Is there a way of checking what kind of missions were available for this event the first time?

    Here are the first run’s missions

    https://stt.wiki/wiki/Children_of_Apollo/Faction_Missions

    Thanks.

    I guess these missions always sucked lol.

    Actually, the first run was much better. 10 available shuttle per faction and almost every single shuttle was either two or three seaters.
  • (HGH)Apollo(HGH)Apollo ✭✭✭✭✭
    I feel like I've definitely had more than 36 shuttle successes and yet my VP is still stuck on 2750.
    Yeah I was stuck for a really long time at 2750 too.
    Let’s fly!
  • 5000 Quatloos5000 Quatloos ✭✭✭✭✭

    I had GoE Troi 1/5 sitting around at level 1 for quite some time. She was a fixture of my shuttle fail strategy. Then i leveled her up for this event, mostly in anticipation of getting a second copy.

    So she was a mega resource sink to level, not all that useful in the event, there's 0% chance I'll get a second copy, and she's no longer a sure thing to fail shuttles with.

    Several rare DIP/MED seats have been added to the rerun, presumably for players that already have her. If you want to put her to non-fail use, now may be time. :-)
    Accepted. Mark them, Galt.
  • Survivalist Kirk 5* (Sci or Eng) and the various Deanna Troi s (Med) meriting their crew spots.
  • I wish I could have gotten Survivalist Kirk. I tried, but the odds are ridiculous.
  • FlemmingFlemming ✭✭✭✭✭
    Survivalist Kirk 5* (Sci or Eng) and the various Deanna Troi s (Med) meriting their crew spots.

    Mirror Troi, Durango Troi (even at only 2 stars) and Bridge Officer Troi are keeping my hopes alive this weekend.
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  • Almost a AngelAlmost a Angel ✭✭✭
    edited November 2018
    400000 or 100000 for those of us who play it through just doesn't matter. But I gotta say 400000 is s bit much. I'm sure there is s reason for this but just as someone decided to change up the recipe for Bob Evans sausage gravy... it just don't taste the same. Leave well enough alone. Incorporate different game play, but leave some things the same.
  • Captain_WhoCaptain_Who ✭✭✭✭✭
    You don't know what new crew will have for stats, and thus probable items ahead of time. You no longer know at what threshold things and what items will appear. You don't know for sure (easier with reruns to guess) who's threshold and who's ranked.

    No, there's only so much preplanning and pre-prep you can do. And that only goes so far for motivation when goalposts are moved and player frustration is a clear priority.
  • Odo MarmarosaOdo Marmarosa ✭✭✭✭✭
    24 hours in and I'm at almost exactly 100k with normal faction play. Not worried about clearing it now with 4k shuttles from here on out. Will be a bit disappointed that I won't add a star to Troi for the bulk of the event.

    I hope DB and Tilting Point are still calibrating the right VP level for rerun ledgends. I don't know what the number should be, but I can see 100k being too easy, and 400k is a stretch. Perhaps 250k?
  • 5000 Quatloos5000 Quatloos ✭✭✭✭✭
    You don't know what new crew will have for stats, and thus probable items ahead of time. You no longer know at what threshold things and what items will appear. You don't know for sure (easier with reruns to guess) who's threshold and who's ranked.

    No, there's only so much preplanning and pre-prep you can do. And that only goes so far for motivation when goalposts are moved and player frustration is a clear priority.

    iampicard pulls equipment info directly from DB. I’m already pre-farming cadet missions for Mountaineer Spock items even though not yet released.
    Accepted. Mark them, Galt.
  • You don't know what new crew will have for stats, and thus probable items ahead of time. You no longer know at what threshold things and what items will appear. You don't know for sure (easier with reruns to guess) who's threshold and who's ranked.

    No, there's only so much preplanning and pre-prep you can do. And that only goes so far for motivation when goalposts are moved and player frustration is a clear priority.

    I disagree. While their stats will probably skew their equipment somewhat, their core character typically always has some element of character-based Faction requirements, such as IDICs for vulcans, maquis encryption and novels for maquis crew, bajoran phasers and earrings for bajoran crew, klingon house crests and/or gagh for klingons, etc etc. I'm willing to bet that next week's chakotay for example will need at least SOME maquis components, with some unexpected potential elements due to his stats. So you can farm Maquis components, and have all of your daily replications to cover anything unexpected. If you have ZERO of common items like holoprojectors, ancient film, science/medical experiments, by all means get a couple of each from cadet missions (and ad-warping them). With some planning, I find it unlikely you could get totally stuck at a lvl50 crew unless you're a fairly new player and don't have a lot of resources for replicating or a small number of daily replications.
  • Ishmael MarxIshmael Marx ✭✭✭✭✭
    I hope DB and Tilting Point are still calibrating the right VP level for rerun ledgends. I don't know what the number should be, but I can see 100k being too easy, and 400k is a stretch. Perhaps 250k?

    It depends on why they are putting them in the rewards table to begin with. If it's as an encouragement to newer players, it needs to stay in the 100K range. If it's some sort of reward for established players, then something higher might be more reasonable. If the goal is to sell DYC's for it, the target needs to be lower than 400K, since only the pure collectors will have a reason to buy them at that vp level.
  • Cam TaliisCam Taliis ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2018
    The changing rewards table, money grab on shuttles, etc. don't bother/worry me half as much as the fact that the way DB is running the game now, a lot of big players seem to be walking away. I'm worried that if that trend continues, the game won't be profitable anymore, and if it's not profitable anymore... The plug will have to be pulled. Which seems a bit of a waste of the money that Tilting Point pumped into it.

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  • WebberoniWebberoni ✭✭✭✭✭
    kapu wrote: »
    The high end thresholds arent meant for nubnubs or casuals, they are aimed at the hard pushing folks who cant quite make it into the top1k (yet).

    That said it would have been better if they kept one copy of the old gold at the previous lower vp trheshold and merely added one more at the top...

    It doenst really affect me, im on a pace thatll put me close to 500k at the end. *shrugs*

    I've been thinking the same thing, about the expanded rewards both increasing competition for a top-1000 finish, while providing a more substantial consolation prize for those that finish just outside that 1k threshold. Of course, all that makes it a potentially big cash-grab for DB, so win-win in their mind?
  • Captain_WhoCaptain_Who ✭✭✭✭✭
    Webberoni wrote: »
    kapu wrote: »
    The high end thresholds arent meant for nubnubs or casuals, they are aimed at the hard pushing folks who cant quite make it into the top1k (yet).

    That said it would have been better if they kept one copy of the old gold at the previous lower vp trheshold and merely added one more at the top...

    It doenst really affect me, im on a pace thatll put me close to 500k at the end. *shrugs*

    I've been thinking the same thing, about the expanded rewards both increasing competition for a top-1000 finish, while providing a more substantial consolation prize for those that finish just outside that 1k threshold. Of course, all that makes it a potentially big cash-grab for DB, so win-win in their mind?

    In their mind. But there are plenty of people that are no longer finding events rewarding or enjoyable. Without victories and clear advancement, the increased difficulty just drives away players, thus sales. And slows and discourages new players, thus sales.

    I guess we'll see just how glutenous for punishment this community is.

  • I had GoE Troi 1/5 sitting around at level 1 for quite some time. She was a fixture of my shuttle fail strategy. Then i leveled her up for this event, mostly in anticipation of getting a second copy.

    So she was a mega resource sink to level, not all that useful in the event, there's 0% chance I'll get a second copy, and she's no longer a sure thing to fail shuttles with.

    Several rare DIP/MED seats have been added to the rerun, presumably for players that already have her. If you want to put her to non-fail use, now may be time. :-)

    By percentages, one event crew isn't going to make much of a difference in a faction event.

    I can look forward to more 65% crit GoE gauntlets though, so that's something. :D
  • Didn't make even the Threshold in the last faction event and this one the bar was raised even higher?
    Wouldn't even know why I should ever use a extra shuttle token with the abysmal shuttle success rate.

    Last event 4 overnight 75%+ shuttles with doublers came back and failed. Yeah, I know, RNG and that...
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