I just looked up Mintakan Riker's stats. The bases are not good. I thought he might be useful for the RiQer event if it has a faction phase. Probably not. That's a bummer.
I already have Mintakan Riker at 2/5, so it's worth it to me to get that third star. If I didn't have him already, though, I'd probably skip this whole event.
I just looked up Mintakan Riker's stats. The bases are not good. I thought he might be useful for the RiQer event if it has a faction phase. Probably not. That's a bummer.
I already have Mintakan Riker at 2/5, so it's worth it to me to get that third star. If I didn't have him already, though, I'd probably skip this whole event.
I’m not skipping entirely, I’m just not putting much effort into it. Kickstart (such as it was), yes. Time reducers after the kickstart or any tokens? Nope. And so far (through the 2250 VP missions), no skill boosts either. Wherever I land is what I will be happy with.
consider what you'll have for dip/sci crew next week. All I'd have for scoundrels with sci/dip are captain Q (horrible stats) and 1/5 Harcourt Mudd. I'd have BRUTAL SR% drops without vash (though we don't know the other event crew yet of course).
If Tapestry Q is the recurring, it seems reasonable he'd have one or both of those skills. I also like that Vash, just watched her episode two weeks ago, but she'd be a crew slot hogger for me. I'll be rolling the dice that the mega can help do some heavy lifting in the Galaxy.
good point, the recurring legend should help alleviate some of vash missing. I feel the same about liking the card, while not liking consuming a slot.
All my best event crew are still on shuttles so I haven't started the galaxy portion yet. Not sure which builds are best, either.
You should always restart the app right after the phase change, so you can use regular crew for shuttles, and keep the Event crew for the galaxy part. I have only had 2 shuttles fail today after the phase change.
In other news... I haven't done anything differently than usual for a combo event, and yet, I passed @Paladin 27and I'm in the top 50?! I guess no one is fighting very hard for Vash this week?
I still have phase 1 shuttles out, but... I'm not trying for much more than top 1,500. I would imagine anyone pushing for top ranks would need to have a good start already. Good luck to you if you're going for the top ranks!
All my best event crew are still on shuttles so I haven't started the galaxy portion yet. Not sure which builds are best, either.
You should always restart the app right after the phase change, so you can use regular crew for shuttles, and keep the Event crew for the galaxy part. I have only had 2 shuttles fail today after the phase change.
In other news... I haven't done anything differently than usual for a combo event, and yet, I passed @Paladin 27and I'm in the top 50?! I guess no one is fighting very hard for Vash this week?
If I restart the app it will put me in 34th place!?! Omg, I got to try this out.......
What you say has merit. However, I considered that leaving the app open means I was able to send out an additional 11 event shuttles.
With bonus crew. You can get VP from those shuttles regardless. Restarting the app takes the bonus crew out of the equation
My understanding is that bonus crew still earned 3x/2x on the “extra” 11 (or however many) shuttles. However, those crew do not get sorted to the top of the list if you restart after phase change. 🖖
"In the short run, the game defines the players. But in the long run, it's us players who define the game." — Nicky Case, The Evolution of Trust
What you say has merit. However, I considered that leaving the app open means I was able to send out an additional 11 event shuttles.
With bonus crew. You can get VP from those shuttles regardless. Restarting the app takes the bonus crew out of the equation
My understanding is that bonus crew still earned 3x/2x on the “extra” 11 (or however many) shuttles. However, those crew do not get sorted to the top of the list if you restart after phase change. 🖖
That's interesting to know. Assuming that's true, why would you do that to yourself instead of NOT restarting the app so you can finish sending out all the phase 1 shuttles you pulled before the phase change for the VP, but NOT have to scroll through your whole crew to find the bonus crew? You'd prefer to intentionally choose non-bonus crew and reduce your odds of successful shuttles for that VP?
What you say has merit. However, I considered that leaving the app open means I was able to send out an additional 11 event shuttles.
With bonus crew. You can get VP from those shuttles regardless. Restarting the app takes the bonus crew out of the equation
My understanding is that bonus crew still earned 3x/2x on the “extra” 11 (or however many) shuttles. However, those crew do not get sorted to the top of the list if you restart after phase change. 🖖
That's interesting to know. Assuming that's true, why would you do that to yourself instead of NOT restarting the app so you can finish sending out all the phase 1 shuttles you pulled before the phase change for the VP, but NOT have to scroll through your whole crew to find the bonus crew? You'd prefer to intentionally choose non-bonus crew and reduce your odds of successful shuttles for that VP?
I would not restart the app. Did you miss the word “if” in my post? The answer to your second question is “No”.
Aside from that, sometimes on my iOS device the app will be closed automatically after a period of inactivity. For that very reason, I (usually) start the app on another (non-iOS) device and leave it open until I send out the final flight of extra shuttles. 🖖
EDIT: added “usually” to reflect actual experience in this event
"In the short run, the game defines the players. But in the long run, it's us players who define the game." — Nicky Case, The Evolution of Trust
What you say has merit. However, I considered that leaving the app open means I was able to send out an additional 11 event shuttles.
With bonus crew. You can get VP from those shuttles regardless. Restarting the app takes the bonus crew out of the equation
My understanding is that bonus crew still earned 3x/2x on the “extra” 11 (or however many) shuttles. However, those crew do not get sorted to the top of the list if you restart after phase change. 🖖
That's interesting to know. Assuming that's true, why would you do that to yourself instead of NOT restarting the app so you can finish sending out all the phase 1 shuttles you pulled before the phase change for the VP, but NOT have to scroll through your whole crew to find the bonus crew? You'd prefer to intentionally choose non-bonus crew and reduce your odds of successful shuttles for that VP?
I would not restart the app. Did you miss the word “if” in my post? The answer to your second question is “No”.
Aside from that, sometimes on my iOS device the app will be closed automatically after a period of inactivity. For that very reason, I start the app on another (non-iOS) device and leave it open until I send out the final flight of extra shuttles. 🖖
For whatever reason today, my iPhone 8 didn’t reload the app at any point even though I fired up Safari and Facebook at various points. Maybe I logged in frequently enough for shuttles or other things?
What you say has merit. However, I considered that leaving the app open means I was able to send out an additional 11 event shuttles.
With bonus crew. You can get VP from those shuttles regardless. Restarting the app takes the bonus crew out of the equation
My understanding is that bonus crew still earned 3x/2x on the “extra” 11 (or however many) shuttles. However, those crew do not get sorted to the top of the list if you restart after phase change. 🖖
That's interesting to know. Assuming that's true, why would you do that to yourself instead of NOT restarting the app so you can finish sending out all the phase 1 shuttles you pulled before the phase change for the VP, but NOT have to scroll through your whole crew to find the bonus crew? You'd prefer to intentionally choose non-bonus crew and reduce your odds of successful shuttles for that VP?
I would not restart the app. Did you miss the word “if” in my post? The answer to your second question is “No”.
Aside from that, sometimes on my iOS device the app will be closed automatically after a period of inactivity. For that very reason, I start the app on another (non-iOS) device and leave it open until I send out the final flight of extra shuttles. 🖖
Sorry peregrine, though my direct quoted reply was from your interesting additional information, my main point asking why a person would close the app intentionally was really meant for Cmdr Sinclair who said "You should always restart the app right after the phase change", which seemed like very bad advice, just adding headache for maximizing success of your event shuttles until they're all done, since there's no need to rush starting the galaxy phase.
Though your follow-up post suggests it's still possible to locate and use the bonus crew, it would just be more of a nuisance. Good info to know though next time I accidentally close my app or it crashes I hope i remember to seek out those bonus crew in the list.
Yesterday my app crashed after the phase change, still I had bonus crew and it was sorted on top properly after the restart. I did not enter phase 2 though.
The last time I entered phase 2 and in the middle of the dialogue I force closed the app as I thought that this might have been a mistake. I had no bonus crew any more, not sort-wise nor really giving a bonus, also the shared crew was gone.
Are you sure that it depends on the app closure instead of entering phase 2? I am suspicious. My yesterday's experience tells me otherwise.
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there are 2 separate consequences. closing the app results in losing bonus on event crew in the shuttles, but you still get VP for phase 1 shuttles. or so I thought, sounds like it just loses sorting but you can still find your bonus crew to use them with bonus maybe.
starting phase 2 means any of those shuttles you saved from phase 1 will no longer get VP after you send them out (I think that's how I remembered when I did it last time!).
there are 2 separate consequences. closing the app results in losing bonus on event crew in the shuttles, but you still get VP for phase 1 shuttles. or so I thought, sounds like it just loses sorting but you can still find your bonus crew to use them with bonus maybe.
starting phase 2 means any of those shuttles you saved from phase 1 will no longer get VP after you send them out (I think that's how I remembered when I did it last time!).
From my personal experience none of both applies. The last time (when I entered phase 2 AND closed the app) I still got VP but no bonus.
With only closing I am still getting VP and bonus. But maybe manually closing vs. crashing and reopening do not have the same consequences?
Maybe someone with some alt-accounts can check this out for us next time to really be sure?
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there are 2 separate consequences. closing the app results in losing bonus on event crew in the shuttles, but you still get VP for phase 1 shuttles. or so I thought, sounds like it just loses sorting but you can still find your bonus crew to use them with bonus maybe.
starting phase 2 means any of those shuttles you saved from phase 1 will no longer get VP after you send them out (I think that's how I remembered when I did it last time!).
From my personal experience none of both applies. The last time (when I entered phase 2 AND closed the app) I still got VP but no bonus.
With only closing I am still getting VP and bonus. But maybe manually closing vs. crashing and reopening do not have the same consequences?
Maybe someone with some alt-accounts can check this out for us next time to really be sure?
You’re correct, it’s entering Phase 2 that matters. You can close/crash the app as many times as you want and it will not change your bonus crew or VP ability. But if you so much as touch the event button before you complete all your holdover shuttles (including checking leaderboards or claiming rewards) your bonus crew goes away.
there are 2 separate consequences. closing the app results in losing bonus on event crew in the shuttles, but you still get VP for phase 1 shuttles. or so I thought, sounds like it just loses sorting but you can still find your bonus crew to use them with bonus maybe.
starting phase 2 means any of those shuttles you saved from phase 1 will no longer get VP after you send them out (I think that's how I remembered when I did it last time!).
From my personal experience none of both applies. The last time (when I entered phase 2 AND closed the app) I still got VP but no bonus.
With only closing I am still getting VP and bonus. But maybe manually closing vs. crashing and reopening do not have the same consequences?
Maybe someone with some alt-accounts can check this out for us next time to really be sure?
You’re correct, it’s entering Phase 2 that matters. You can close/crash the app as many times as you want and it will not change your bonus crew or VP ability. But if you so much as touch the event button before you complete all your holdover shuttles (including checking leaderboards or claiming rewards) your bonus crew goes away.
I think it’s a display issue on the client side, because not only do you have to scroll down to find the bonus crew, but also the success percentages shown drop dramatically.
For the record, I had to close the app and later checked the leaderboard, so I did notice both of the above. My final flight of 4 shuttles with the 9-hour 2x boosters all succeeded, having shown 47-64% chances. 🖖
"In the short run, the game defines the players. But in the long run, it's us players who define the game." — Nicky Case, The Evolution of Trust
I think it’s a display issue on the client side, because not only do you have to scroll down to find the bonus crew, but also the success percentages shown drop dramatically.
For the record, I had to close the app and later checked the leaderboard, so I did notice both of the above. My final flight of 4 shuttles with the 9-hour 2x boosters all succeeded, having shown 47-64% chances. 🖖
This is an interesting observation! Thanks for sharing.
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there are 2 separate consequences. closing the app results in losing bonus on event crew in the shuttles, but you still get VP for phase 1 shuttles. or so I thought, sounds like it just loses sorting but you can still find your bonus crew to use them with bonus maybe.
starting phase 2 means any of those shuttles you saved from phase 1 will no longer get VP after you send them out (I think that's how I remembered when I did it last time!).
From my personal experience none of both applies. The last time (when I entered phase 2 AND closed the app) I still got VP but no bonus.
With only closing I am still getting VP and bonus. But maybe manually closing vs. crashing and reopening do not have the same consequences?
Maybe someone with some alt-accounts can check this out for us next time to really be sure?
You’re correct, it’s entering Phase 2 that matters. You can close/crash the app as many times as you want and it will not change your bonus crew or VP ability. But if you so much as touch the event button before you complete all your holdover shuttles (including checking leaderboards or claiming rewards) your bonus crew goes away.
I think it’s a display issue on the client side, because not only do you have to scroll down to find the bonus crew, but also the success percentages shown drop dramatically.
I'm almost positive it's merely a display issue. When I first found out about this trick, I used to just send anyone because even 800 VP is worth something. But since focusing on continuing to use event crew, I have a much better success rate. I have no actual evidence to support this, however.
there are 2 separate consequences. closing the app results in losing bonus on event crew in the shuttles, but you still get VP for phase 1 shuttles. or so I thought, sounds like it just loses sorting but you can still find your bonus crew to use them with bonus maybe.
starting phase 2 means any of those shuttles you saved from phase 1 will no longer get VP after you send them out (I think that's how I remembered when I did it last time!).
From my personal experience none of both applies. The last time (when I entered phase 2 AND closed the app) I still got VP but no bonus.
With only closing I am still getting VP and bonus. But maybe manually closing vs. crashing and reopening do not have the same consequences?
Maybe someone with some alt-accounts can check this out for us next time to really be sure?
You’re correct, it’s entering Phase 2 that matters. You can close/crash the app as many times as you want and it will not change your bonus crew or VP ability. But if you so much as touch the event button before you complete all your holdover shuttles (including checking leaderboards or claiming rewards) your bonus crew goes away.
I think it’s a display issue on the client side, because not only do you have to scroll down to find the bonus crew, but also the success percentages shown drop dramatically.
I'm almost positive it's merely a display issue. When I first found out about this trick, I used to just send anyone because even 800 VP is worth something. But since focusing on continuing to use event crew, I have a much better success rate. I have no actual evidence to support this, however.
That's been my experience as well, albeit anecdotal!
This may be the first legendary crew that I freeze lol. Poor Mintakan Riker has been power creeped to death.
He is a diplomacy-security guy with a huge number of traits which is useful for Voyages. Also, being a Riker and a Vulcan he is event crew in many events.
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I already have Mintakan Riker at 2/5, so it's worth it to me to get that third star. If I didn't have him already, though, I'd probably skip this whole event.
Captain Level: 95
VIP Level: 12
Unique Crew Immortalized: 525
Collections Completed: Vulcan, Ferengi, Borg, Romulan, Cardassian, Uncommon, Rare, Veteran, Common, Engineered, Physician, Innovator, Inspiring, Diplomat, Jury Rigger, Gauntlet Legends
I’m not skipping entirely, I’m just not putting much effort into it. Kickstart (such as it was), yes. Time reducers after the kickstart or any tokens? Nope. And so far (through the 2250 VP missions), no skill boosts either. Wherever I land is what I will be happy with.
Or be responsible for her disappearing.
Not Hunters
Not Undercover Operatives
Not Romulan
Not Kraylor
All my best event crew are still on shuttles so I haven't started the galaxy portion yet. Not sure which builds are best, either.
You should always restart the app right after the phase change, so you can use regular crew for shuttles, and keep the Event crew for the galaxy part. I have only had 2 shuttles fail today after the phase change.
In other news... I haven't done anything differently than usual for a combo event, and yet, I passed @Paladin 27 and I'm in the top 50?! I guess no one is fighting very hard for Vash this week?
If I restart the app it will put me in 34th place!?! Omg, I got to try this out.......
With bonus crew. You can get VP from those shuttles regardless. Restarting the app takes the bonus crew out of the equation
My understanding is that bonus crew still earned 3x/2x on the “extra” 11 (or however many) shuttles. However, those crew do not get sorted to the top of the list if you restart after phase change. 🖖
That's interesting to know. Assuming that's true, why would you do that to yourself instead of NOT restarting the app so you can finish sending out all the phase 1 shuttles you pulled before the phase change for the VP, but NOT have to scroll through your whole crew to find the bonus crew? You'd prefer to intentionally choose non-bonus crew and reduce your odds of successful shuttles for that VP?
I would not restart the app. Did you miss the word “if” in my post? The answer to your second question is “No”.
Aside from that, sometimes on my iOS device the app will be closed automatically after a period of inactivity. For that very reason, I (usually) start the app on another (non-iOS) device and leave it open until I send out the final flight of extra shuttles. 🖖
EDIT: added “usually” to reflect actual experience in this event
For whatever reason today, my iPhone 8 didn’t reload the app at any point even though I fired up Safari and Facebook at various points. Maybe I logged in frequently enough for shuttles or other things?
Sorry peregrine, though my direct quoted reply was from your interesting additional information, my main point asking why a person would close the app intentionally was really meant for Cmdr Sinclair who said "You should always restart the app right after the phase change", which seemed like very bad advice, just adding headache for maximizing success of your event shuttles until they're all done, since there's no need to rush starting the galaxy phase.
Though your follow-up post suggests it's still possible to locate and use the bonus crew, it would just be more of a nuisance. Good info to know though next time I accidentally close my app or it crashes I hope i remember to seek out those bonus crew in the list.
The last time I entered phase 2 and in the middle of the dialogue I force closed the app as I thought that this might have been a mistake. I had no bonus crew any more, not sort-wise nor really giving a bonus, also the shared crew was gone.
Are you sure that it depends on the app closure instead of entering phase 2? I am suspicious. My yesterday's experience tells me otherwise.
starting phase 2 means any of those shuttles you saved from phase 1 will no longer get VP after you send them out (I think that's how I remembered when I did it last time!).
With only closing I am still getting VP and bonus. But maybe manually closing vs. crashing and reopening do not have the same consequences?
Maybe someone with some alt-accounts can check this out for us next time to really be sure?
You’re correct, it’s entering Phase 2 that matters. You can close/crash the app as many times as you want and it will not change your bonus crew or VP ability. But if you so much as touch the event button before you complete all your holdover shuttles (including checking leaderboards or claiming rewards) your bonus crew goes away.
I think it’s a display issue on the client side, because not only do you have to scroll down to find the bonus crew, but also the success percentages shown drop dramatically.
For the record, I had to close the app and later checked the leaderboard, so I did notice both of the above. My final flight of 4 shuttles with the 9-hour 2x boosters all succeeded, having shown 47-64% chances. 🖖
I'm almost positive it's merely a display issue. When I first found out about this trick, I used to just send anyone because even 800 VP is worth something. But since focusing on continuing to use event crew, I have a much better success rate. I have no actual evidence to support this, however.
That's been my experience as well, albeit anecdotal!
This may be the first legendary crew that I freeze lol. Poor Mintakan Riker has been power creeped to death.
Even at first event back then, he wasn t a very good crew base wise.
He is a diplomacy-security guy with a huge number of traits which is useful for Voyages. Also, being a Riker and a Vulcan he is event crew in many events.