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  • ShanShan ✭✭✭✭✭
    The ironSource SDK is still there, in the same capacity as it was before the Offer Wall.
    It is used for the ads you see in game.
  • Thank you very much for the clarification, Shan! I appreciate the quick response, your tireless work, and the extreme difficulty of your position!
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2020
    Shan wrote: »
    The ironSource SDK is still there, in the same capacity as it was before the Offer Wall.
    It is used for the ads you see in game.

    What about data mining? Has it always done that?

    Thanx for the update!
    Vorwoda wrote: »
    Thank you very much for the clarification, Shan! I appreciate the quick response, your tireless work, and the extreme difficulty of your position!

    +87!!!!!
    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
  • ShanShan ✭✭✭✭✭
    Shan wrote: »
    The ironSource SDK is still there, in the same capacity as it was before the Offer Wall.
    It is used for the ads you see in game.

    What about data mining? Has it always done that?

    Thanx for the update!
    Vorwoda wrote: »
    Thank you very much for the clarification, Shan! I appreciate the quick response, your tireless work, and the extreme difficulty of your position!

    +87!!!!!

    Scott, I do not know what you specifically refer to when you say data mining.
    I do not have anything to add that has not already been covered by our latest statement on the subject, and by the privacy policy.

    This has indeed been difficult, and not in small part due to all the misconceptions I've seen in various threads. But such is human nature, especially on the internet :)

    Privacy is important, it matters to you, and it matters to our team as well.

  • ~peregrine~~peregrine~ ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2020
    cmdrworf wrote: »
    furyd wrote: »
    I recently bought a house. In doing so, I submitted my social security number, bank account info, pay stubs, retirement funds documentation, and tax records to multiple vendors such that I fully assume I will have my identity stolen at some point in the next 12 months when one of them gets hacked. It's frustrating, but I couldn't have gotten the loan without giving out that info, so what else could be done?

    This feels the same way to me - either play STT and accept the risks that come along with it (whatever those risks might be), or stop playing. I'm choosing to play. Hope to see the rest of you around the galaxy, but if not, I understand. LLAP.

    Bit of a difference between buying a house and playing a game, the latter is meant to be fun and lighthearted. I've bought a few houses, can't say any aspect of it was fun beyond finding the right place.

    I appreciate your point of view, but for me it's like acceptance of being a victim, and that kind of saddens me. If I have a nice car, I shouldn't just become inured to car theft, and if I play a game I shouldn't have to accept gutter ethics to do so.

    Maybe it is time to delete the app.

    You might as well add almost every app to your list then. This is such common practice now. I think this is the first app I've seen do as much as they have to address privacy concerns.

    Its reached the point I don't think there is anything that will make some of the people in the community satisfied. So for those that are leaving, good bye. But for the rest of us that our staying, at least the forums should be a much calmer place now.

    Whatever helps you sleep at night with identity theft. Some of us will not go quietly.

    If a third party had access to your spreadsheet, could see who used it, harvest their “PII” (data) & then sell it, would you care? I mean your resource.
    "In the short run, the game defines the players. But in the long run, it's us players who define the game." — Nicky Case, The Evolution of Trust
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    Privacy concerns

    1. I have been harvested since ... um, when did ironSource start managing the ads?
    2. I came here to play. I knew ads were integrated, but I thought ads were a choice.
    3. Well, my device-identifiable data has been frakked for over 3 years now.
    4. I never saw that grant of permission in the Terms of Service for DB, and have yet to see anything similar from WRG. Did I miss something?
    5. For all who nay-say our privacy concerns, please stop. They are valid concerns.

    Everyone here can do better, including me. I apologize if my strident tone in my previous posts was offensive. but the point needs to be hammered home:

    This business model is unethical, in terms of fair value for exchange. Make a Ferengi profit, but please fix stuff.

    WRG: Do Better

    I want to sincerely apologize to you, Peregrine. I was very grumpy the other day. And a lot of the meanness I spilled hit you. I sincerely and humbly apologize!!!!!!

    🖖🏿🖖🏽🖖🏼🖖🏻🖖
    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
  • DaevDaev ✭✭✭

    Only open question as of now is:
    DB says IronSource is implemented as auto deny (which I have to take at face value) and IronSource says they do what they want.....

    They said that in my GDPR ticket but then immediately contradicted themselves in the very next sentence by saying what they automatically send to Ironsource so I'd suggest perhaps rereading that very closely. I've asked for clarification.

    But the answer to your questions is

    c) when the app loads. As stated on the forums and in the GDPR response, a bunch of info (including personal information under GDPR) is sent by default when the app loads. No opt-out, no click on an ad or on the offerwall required. In fact according to the forum postings it occurs on clients that do no have the offerwall (iOS)

  • KaiRoKaiRo ✭✭✭
    Also, if you are concerned about this, make sure to delete any app by Facebook or Google from your phone, as they have pretty similar privacy practices as companies like IronSource.
    "Don't try to be a great man... just be a man. Let history make its own judgments."
    -- Dr. Zefram Cochrane, around 2073
  • Zombie Squirrel Zombie Squirrel ✭✭✭✭✭
    robownage wrote: »
    Y'all...it's been over a month now. Thank you for looking out for all of us, but if you're genuinely this concerned you need to delete the app from your phone. With everything else going on in the world today, I assure you that you can focus all of that energy into so many things that would have a more positive impact on the world as a whole than getting a mobile game app to shut down.

    THIS! +1 Thx for posting.
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