Please understand that there are limitations to what I am allowed to say.
There is nothing I can do regarding how you decide to interpret something I say.
I have daily discussions about this, I have no reason to believe I will not have an other update to provide. I however do not have the timing for it.
Hey @Shan - I greatly appreciate your updates and understand the awful customer service/liason position that you're in right now. Irrelevant of my own feelings about the Wall, I just wondered if you were allowed to offer any details on to WHY the discussion is being delayed? I know you can't get into specifics - but is delay due to legal ramifications/lawyers kind of situation versus something like teams working from home during virus stuff and it's harder to communicate/collaborate on things versus trying to get ahold of the appropriate people at Ironsource compared to solely internal? The reason behind the delay might do a lot to help reassure some of those concerned about the existence of a delay in response?
Please understand that there are limitations to what I am allowed to say.
There is nothing I can do regarding how you decide to interpret something I say.
I have daily discussions about this, I have no reason to believe I will not have an other update to provide. I however do not have the timing for it.
I figured your hands were tied with what you could currently comment on. I don't believe in shooting the messenger. They're usually the bravest one willing to take on whatever role is required.
I'm disappointed by the company. I'm disappointed in what has happened and how long it's taking to get some solid answers.
But, maybe I speak for a few others as well, I, in no way, blame you @Shan for what is going on! Thank you for continuing to keep communication open with us!
Please understand that there are limitations to what I am allowed to say.
There is nothing I can do regarding how you decide to interpret something I say.
I have daily discussions about this, I have no reason to believe I will not have an other update to provide. I however do not have the timing for it.
I figured your hands were tied with what you could currently comment on. I don't believe in shooting the messenger. They're usually the bravest one willing to take on whatever role is required.
I'm disappointed by the company. I'm disappointed in what has happened and how long it's taking to get some solid answers.
But, maybe I speak for a few others as well, I, in no way, blame you @Shan for what is going on! Thank you for continuing to keep communication open with us!
All of this. Shan is in a tight spot. All she can pass on to us is what they give her to pass on.
It's totally not her fault they have been slow to pass anything on, and what they have passed on was anything but comforting and reassuring.......
Shan, we do not blame you!!!!!
🖖🖖🏻🖖🏼🖖🏽🖖🏿
"The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
Please understand that there are limitations to what I am allowed to say.
There is nothing I can do regarding how you decide to interpret something I say.
I have daily discussions about this, I have no reason to believe I will not have an other update to provide. I however do not have the timing for it.
I figured your hands were tied with what you could currently comment on. I don't believe in shooting the messenger. They're usually the bravest one willing to take on whatever role is required.
I'm disappointed by the company. I'm disappointed in what has happened and how long it's taking to get some solid answers.
But, maybe I speak for a few others as well, I, in no way, blame you @Shan for what is going on! Thank you for continuing to keep communication open with us!
Please understand that there are limitations to what I am allowed to say.
There is nothing I can do regarding how you decide to interpret something I say.
I have daily discussions about this, I have no reason to believe I will not have an other update to provide. I however do not have the timing for it.
I figured your hands were tied with what you could currently comment on. I don't believe in shooting the messenger. They're usually the bravest one willing to take on whatever role is required.
I'm disappointed by the company. I'm disappointed in what has happened and how long it's taking to get some solid answers.
But, maybe I speak for a few others as well, I, in no way, blame you @Shan for what is going on! Thank you for continuing to keep communication open with us!
All of this. Shan is in a tight spot. All she can pass on to us is what they give her to pass on.
It's totally not her fault they have been slow to pass anything on, and what they have passed on was anything but comforting and reassuring.......
Shan, we do not blame you!!!!!
🖖🖖🏻🖖🏼🖖🏽🖖🏿
Can I say I absolutely endorse these posts fully. At times like this, support staff and customer liaison officers must especially hate the morning alarm, showering and their (tele)commute to work. This issue is not of their making. They have been brilliant throughout this, and I hope their end of year bonus reflects that brilliance.
- Having now tried to raise GDPR tickets twice with Support, to no avail, on each instance with the customer service agents / service leads pleading for more time to analyse the issue, I no longer have any confidence that WRTP takes this issue with any seriousness. As a consequence, Wednesday 10th last, I made my complaints to official state regulators and (digital) consumer advocates. I will keep the community appraised.
I will myself cease all gameplay Friday next, and I'm scaling back. I will miss my squad mates and fleet mates dearly.
It's been a wonderful community, and a wonderful game.
It is now comprehensively ruined, and every time I log in, it leaves a bitter taste.
- Having now tried to raise GDPR tickets twice with Support, to no avail, on each instance with the customer service agents / service leads pleading for more time to analyse the issue, I no longer have any confidence that WRTP takes this issue with any seriousness. As a consequence, Wednesday 10th last, I made my complaints to official state regulators and (digital) consumer advocates. I will keep the community appraised.
By Law - they must respond with in 30 days of the request. I have also raised a request and was "put on hold" whilst they gather information. I will wait the 30 days and if no information is furbished will riase the issue with the ICO
If you need a "formal" GDPR Subject Access Request, please see below. Alter as per your specific needs:
[Your full address]
[Phone number]
[The date]
[Name and address of the organisation if relevant]
[Reference number (if provided within the initial response)]
Dear [Sir or Madam / name of the person you have been in contact with]
Information rights concern
[Your full name and address and any other details such as account number to help identify you]
I am concerned that you have not handled my personal information properly.
[Give details of your concern, explaining clearly and simply what has happened and, where appropriate, the effect it has had on you.]
I understand that before reporting my concern to the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO) I should give you the chance to deal with it.
If, when I receive your response, I would still like to report my concern to the ICO, I will give them a copy of it to consider.
You can find guidance on your obligations under information rights legislation on the ICO’s website (www.ico.org.uk) as well as information on their regulatory powers and the action they can take.
Please send a full response within one calendar month. If you cannot respond within that timescale, please tell me when you will be able to respond.
If there is anything you would like to discuss, please contact me on the following number [telephone number].
- Having now tried to raise GDPR tickets twice with Support, to no avail, on each instance with the customer service agents / service leads pleading for more time to analyse the issue, I no longer have any confidence that WRTP takes this issue with any seriousness. As a consequence, Wednesday 10th last, I made my complaints to official state regulators and (digital) consumer advocates. I will keep the community appraised.
By Law - they must respond with in 30 days of the request. I have also raised a request and was "put on hold" whilst they gather information. I will wait the 30 days and if no information is furbished will riase the issue with the ICO
Excellent - I'd encourage all Trekkers to do so.
Unlike you, I see only poor faith and deflection on WRTPs behalf with empty posturing here on forums and through support - although I hasten to that is the received and perceived message content, and not the messengers. Hence my escalation.
So the wall is gone on iOS. Shan, what has been removed? The button, the SDK? What is the status of our data today compared to before the wall was introduced?
For those unlucky ones of us who did a survey: Can Ironsource still access our data somehow through the fact that STT is installed, other than the minimum dataset required for watching and rewarding ads?
Wir, die Mirror Tribbles [MiT] haben freie Plätze zu vergeben. Kein Zwang und kein Stress, dafür aber Spaß, Discord und eine nette, hilfsbereite Gemeinschaft, incl. voll ausgebauter Starbase und täglich 700 ISM.
So the wall is gone on iOS. Shan, what has been removed? The button, the SDK? What is the status of our data today compared to before the wall was introduced?
For those unlucky ones of us who did a survey: Can Ironsource still access our data somehow through the fact that STT is installed, other than the minimum dataset required for watching and rewarding ads?
Also, what happens with all the offers players had started? Will they be getting the Dil automatically, or do they still need to complete their half of the bargain?
With the removal from iOS versions, this now puts large parts of the playerbase (Steam and iOS users) at a disadvantage vs. Android users who can still access offers. This seems unfair, and I request the wall be removed on Android too for the sake of parity.
With the removal from iOS versions, this now puts large parts of the playerbase (Steam and iOS users) at a disadvantage vs. Android users who can still access offers. This seems unfair, and I request the wall be removed on Android too for the sake of parity.
Buy an cheap used android device and do the offers there. 🤗
With the removal from iOS versions, this now puts large parts of the playerbase (Steam and iOS users) at a disadvantage vs. Android users who can still access offers. This seems unfair, and I request the wall be removed on Android too for the sake of parity.
Its the future, I see people posting.....bring back the wall!!
Founding ADM - PoF family of fleets (POF, POF2 & POF3) - Dear TP: Non sequitur. Your facts are uncoordinated.
Today we’ve removed the Offer Wall from iOS indefinitely.
Due to Apple guidelines the offers that can be presented on iOS are unfortunately too limited to be of interest. Please restart your game to see the change.
This reads like scapegoating Apple.
We know that there are still some ongoing concerns regarding the Offer Wall in general, we are working with ironSource to address those concerns, as best and as quickly as we can. This will involve clarification about their practices.
This is currently our main priority, alongside making sure that the offers available on Android are ones you can be satisfied with.
This reads like tacit admission our fellow forum members who called them out for violating Apple's TOS were correct. I'm also troubled that the priority isn't holding ironSource to Apple's standards. Coupled with the language of ironSource's own website, I'm left with the impression that neither ironSource or TP will adhere to those standards because their practices and profit rely on not doing that. I'll continue holding out for now until whatever is decided with ironSource is formally announced, but it's looking worse, not better.
Today we’ve removed the Offer Wall from iOS indefinitely.
Due to Apple guidelines the offers that can be presented on iOS are unfortunately too limited to be of interest. Please restart your game to see the change.
This reads like scapegoating Apple.
We know that there are still some ongoing concerns regarding the Offer Wall in general, we are working with ironSource to address those concerns, as best and as quickly as we can. This will involve clarification about their practices.
This is currently our main priority, alongside making sure that the offers available on Android are ones you can be satisfied with.
This reads like tacit admission our fellow forum members who called them out for violating Apple's TOS were correct. I'm also troubled that the priority isn't holding ironSource to Apple's standards. Coupled with the language of ironSource's own website, I'm left with the impression that neither ironSource or TP will adhere to those standards because their practices and profit rely on not doing that. I'll continue holding out for now until whatever is decided with ironSource is formally announced, but it's looking worse, not better.
Actually, it reads like Apple had rules that protected their customers from MalWall.
"The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
I hadn't seen it in that light, but yeah, you could be right given the wording.
Surely they'd have known iOS wouldn't support the same offers as Android when doing their due diligence? (I know, I know, I'm assuming due diligence was actually done)
It does come across a bit like the UK's track and trace farrago.
This reads like tacit admission our fellow forum members who called them out for violating Apple's TOS were correct. I'm also troubled that the priority isn't holding ironSource to Apple's standards. Coupled with the language of ironSource's own website, I'm left with the impression that neither ironSource or TP will adhere to those standards because their practices and profit rely on not doing that. I'll continue holding out for now until whatever is decided with ironSource is formally announced, but it's looking worse, not better.
I'm not fussed about them matching Apple's standards, just that they protect our data - not merely from a legal standpoint, but from a position of not being scummy really.
There seems to be a lot of tap-dancing around the core issues by TP/WRG, for which there may be many reasons, but I can't think of many where they come smelling of anything other manure.
I'm trying to take a positive stance that this stuff wasn't thought about, and now they're trying to rectify that and get it right, but thats starting to feel a little like running up the down escalator.
After visiting here every day, and having seen no apparent end to all this Sturm und Drang, the absurdity and madness has finally reached a tipping point for me.
In a move that will no doubt please a number of folks here (and elicit a shrug from many others), I'm taking a break from the forums for awhile. I shall continue playing the game, but this forum has turned from a fun diversion in my day to a snake pit of accusations, hysteria, and misery.
I'll probably take a peek back in at some point in the future to see if things have gotten somewhat closer to a sense of normalcy (if anything can truly be considered "normal" any more these days).
Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing. ~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
Today we’ve removed the Offer Wall from iOS indefinitely.
Due to Apple guidelines the offers that can be presented on iOS are unfortunately too limited to be of interest. Please restart your game to see the change.
This reads like scapegoating Apple.
We know that there are still some ongoing concerns regarding the Offer Wall in general, we are working with ironSource to address those concerns, as best and as quickly as we can. This will involve clarification about their practices.
This is currently our main priority, alongside making sure that the offers available on Android are ones you can be satisfied with.
This reads like tacit admission our fellow forum members who called them out for violating Apple's TOS were correct. I'm also troubled that the priority isn't holding ironSource to Apple's standards. Coupled with the language of ironSource's own website, I'm left with the impression that neither ironSource or TP will adhere to those standards because their practices and profit rely on not doing that. I'll continue holding out for now until whatever is decided with ironSource is formally announced, but it's looking worse, not better.
I was so surprised and excited to see it was gone, rather than left in but with mealy-mouthed assurances of data security, that I went ahead and renewed my monthly card and got the campaign. Reading your analysis has me wondering if I wasn’t too hasty...offers being “too limited to be of interest” is an odd way of wording “exceptionally predatory, sleazy, and of dubious value.” I’m not sure I see it as throwing Apple under the bus, just that a more thorough review of what was in the Wall determined that the offers that showed up were too close to whatever criteria Apple has for use of data to be worth keeping in the game.
As for the Wall now only being available to Android users causing an imbalance, that imbalance already existed because of the limitations for Steam/Windows/FB Gameroom players. A computer-based Android emulator can not only restore Wall access but provide offers that are less obviously terrible.
Thanks, Shan. I play a lot of other games with offer walls (including Kim Kardashian's fashion game - don't hate me), and noticed that they're all survey offers on iOS now. Those games have kept the offer wall in place, fwiw, so I doubt DBTPWRG were skirting any illegal issues by opting to remove it.
I mean, Kim K trusts it, and if we can't trust Kimye, who can we?
Thanks, Shan. I play a lot of other games with offer walls (including Kim Kardashian's fashion game - don't hate me), and noticed that they're all survey offers on iOS now. Those games have kept the offer wall in place, fwiw, so I doubt DBTPWRG were skirting any illegal issues by opting to remove it.
I mean, Kim K trusts it, and if we can't trust Kimye, who can we?
The way I see it, the surveys have been considered the worst of the offers from a data privacy perspective. They were allowed by the Apple App store, but TP decided they were too predatory, not worth the DIL to players, not worth the payment to TP, so the offer wall was removed from iOS since that's all that was there. On Android since the game downloads are available which have better data security/control and offer better payments to TP and player, TP decided to keep the offer wall active.
No, I agree. I was responding to the people saying that TP was breaching Apple's TOS so that is why they had to remove it. It's still there in a lot of other games, including Kimye's fashion empire. I actually like the choice that TP made to pull it from iOS, although I will miss the free dil.
With the removal from iOS versions, this now puts large parts of the playerbase (Steam and iOS users) at a disadvantage vs. Android users who can still access offers. This seems unfair, and I request the wall be removed on Android too for the sake of parity.
Buy an cheap used android device and do the offers there. 🤗
I'm actually on Android. I feel the advantage we have now is too unfair.
There are already many advantages to players based on location.
At my location (thailand) there are only games on offer and any surveys are forbidden.
But most games require you to pay and if you pay why not pay for an offer directly in stt.
The realy free dilitium seemed to come from surveys , which are mostly available in the USA and some other western countries.
So if you are prepared to give away your privacy you could maybe get an advantage, but only if you are now in one of these countries and not on apple.
Many games and many players seem to forget that location and infrastructure are very important for your chances to be competitive and the gap is only growing with emphasis on USA.
Privacy concerns are important to me on principle but not in practice because internet use is already monitored by the government.
I am not using offerwall because of the concerns stated and to show my support to the long term. Players who made tools available for free.
I started stt before but since there is no tutorial its very complex and no good manual without tools like the big book or datacore i gave up fast because i did not know what to do and spend money without getting anywhere.
The learningcurve of stt is big and without the proper tools to advice you I suspect many new players will give up too.
So from a purely commercial point of view:
1)The offerwall is only available to non apple: users
2) surveys are a privacy risk and as implemented and might be unlawful in many countries.
3) offerwall is not available or very limited (i think i counted 16 games here) in many countries.
4) it resulted in free tools being withdrawn which are essential for new players to know what they are doing. If not available TP might need to build their own.
Keeping the offerwall does not seem to. Make much commercial sense.
There are already many advantages to players based on location.
At my location (thailand) there are only games on offer and any surveys are forbidden.
But most games require you to pay and if you pay why not pay for an offer directly in stt.
The realy free dilitium seemed to come from surveys , which are mostly available in the USA and some other western countries.
So if you are prepared to give away your privacy you could maybe get an advantage, but only if you are now in one of these countries and not on apple.
Many games and many players seem to forget that location and infrastructure are very important for your chances to be competitive and the gap is only growing with emphasis on USA.
Privacy concerns are important to me on principle but not in practice because internet use is already monitored by the government.
I am not using offerwall because of the concerns stated and to show my support to the long term. Players who made tools available for free.
I started stt before but since there is no tutorial its very complex and no good manual without tools like the big book or datacore i gave up fast because i did not know what to do and spend money without getting anywhere.
The learningcurve of stt is big and without the proper tools to advice you I suspect many new players will give up too.
So from a purely commercial point of view:
1)The offerwall is only available to non apple: users
2) surveys are a privacy risk and as implemented and might be unlawful in many countries.
3) offerwall is not available or very limited (i think i counted 16 games here) in many countries.
4) it resulted in free tools being withdrawn which are essential for new players to know what they are doing. If not available TP might need to build their own.
Keeping the offerwall does not seem to. Make much commercial sense.
Well said. 🖖
"In the short run, the game defines the players. But in the long run, it's us players who define the game." — Nicky Case, The Evolution of Trust
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Hey @Shan - I greatly appreciate your updates and understand the awful customer service/liason position that you're in right now. Irrelevant of my own feelings about the Wall, I just wondered if you were allowed to offer any details on to WHY the discussion is being delayed? I know you can't get into specifics - but is delay due to legal ramifications/lawyers kind of situation versus something like teams working from home during virus stuff and it's harder to communicate/collaborate on things versus trying to get ahold of the appropriate people at Ironsource compared to solely internal? The reason behind the delay might do a lot to help reassure some of those concerned about the existence of a delay in response?
I figured your hands were tied with what you could currently comment on. I don't believe in shooting the messenger. They're usually the bravest one willing to take on whatever role is required.
I'm disappointed by the company. I'm disappointed in what has happened and how long it's taking to get some solid answers.
But, maybe I speak for a few others as well, I, in no way, blame you @Shan for what is going on! Thank you for continuing to keep communication open with us!
All of this. Shan is in a tight spot. All she can pass on to us is what they give her to pass on.
It's totally not her fault they have been slow to pass anything on, and what they have passed on was anything but comforting and reassuring.......
Shan, we do not blame you!!!!!
🖖🖖🏻🖖🏼🖖🏽🖖🏿
Can I say I absolutely endorse these posts fully. At times like this, support staff and customer liaison officers must especially hate the morning alarm, showering and their (tele)commute to work. This issue is not of their making. They have been brilliant throughout this, and I hope their end of year bonus reflects that brilliance.
- Having now tried to raise GDPR tickets twice with Support, to no avail, on each instance with the customer service agents / service leads pleading for more time to analyse the issue, I no longer have any confidence that WRTP takes this issue with any seriousness. As a consequence, Wednesday 10th last, I made my complaints to official state regulators and (digital) consumer advocates. I will keep the community appraised.
I will myself cease all gameplay Friday next, and I'm scaling back. I will miss my squad mates and fleet mates dearly.
It's been a wonderful community, and a wonderful game.
It is now comprehensively ruined, and every time I log in, it leaves a bitter taste.
By Law - they must respond with in 30 days of the request. I have also raised a request and was "put on hold" whilst they gather information. I will wait the 30 days and if no information is furbished will riase the issue with the ICO
Excellent - I'd encourage all Trekkers to do so.
Unlike you, I see only poor faith and deflection on WRTPs behalf with empty posturing here on forums and through support - although I hasten to that is the received and perceived message content, and not the messengers. Hence my escalation.
I do not trust TP.
I share that perception and those concerns.
For those unlucky ones of us who did a survey: Can Ironsource still access our data somehow through the fact that STT is installed, other than the minimum dataset required for watching and rewarding ads?
Also, what happens with all the offers players had started? Will they be getting the Dil automatically, or do they still need to complete their half of the bargain?
Do they get their rewards ??
It's only my opinion but....
Buy an cheap used android device and do the offers there. 🤗
Its the future, I see people posting.....bring back the wall!!
This reads like scapegoating Apple.
This reads like tacit admission our fellow forum members who called them out for violating Apple's TOS were correct. I'm also troubled that the priority isn't holding ironSource to Apple's standards. Coupled with the language of ironSource's own website, I'm left with the impression that neither ironSource or TP will adhere to those standards because their practices and profit rely on not doing that. I'll continue holding out for now until whatever is decided with ironSource is formally announced, but it's looking worse, not better.
Actually, it reads like Apple had rules that protected their customers from MalWall.
I hadn't seen it in that light, but yeah, you could be right given the wording.
Surely they'd have known iOS wouldn't support the same offers as Android when doing their due diligence? (I know, I know, I'm assuming due diligence was actually done)
It does come across a bit like the UK's track and trace farrago.
I'm not fussed about them matching Apple's standards, just that they protect our data - not merely from a legal standpoint, but from a position of not being scummy really.
There seems to be a lot of tap-dancing around the core issues by TP/WRG, for which there may be many reasons, but I can't think of many where they come smelling of anything other manure.
I'm trying to take a positive stance that this stuff wasn't thought about, and now they're trying to rectify that and get it right, but thats starting to feel a little like running up the down escalator.
In a move that will no doubt please a number of folks here (and elicit a shrug from many others), I'm taking a break from the forums for awhile. I shall continue playing the game, but this forum has turned from a fun diversion in my day to a snake pit of accusations, hysteria, and misery.
I'll probably take a peek back in at some point in the future to see if things have gotten somewhat closer to a sense of normalcy (if anything can truly be considered "normal" any more these days).
Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.
~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
I was so surprised and excited to see it was gone, rather than left in but with mealy-mouthed assurances of data security, that I went ahead and renewed my monthly card and got the campaign. Reading your analysis has me wondering if I wasn’t too hasty...offers being “too limited to be of interest” is an odd way of wording “exceptionally predatory, sleazy, and of dubious value.” I’m not sure I see it as throwing Apple under the bus, just that a more thorough review of what was in the Wall determined that the offers that showed up were too close to whatever criteria Apple has for use of data to be worth keeping in the game.
As for the Wall now only being available to Android users causing an imbalance, that imbalance already existed because of the limitations for Steam/Windows/FB Gameroom players. A computer-based Android emulator can not only restore Wall access but provide offers that are less obviously terrible.
As many of you have noticed, on Android a lot of the OW offers are about games, which is great.
Unfortunately presenting offers for games is not something Apple allows anymore, those are the guidelines we are referring to in our message.
I hope this frames the context better
I mean, Kim K trusts it, and if we can't trust Kimye, who can we?
Proud Former Officer of The Gluten Empire
Retired 12-14-20. So long, and thanks for all the cat pics!
The way I see it, the surveys have been considered the worst of the offers from a data privacy perspective. They were allowed by the Apple App store, but TP decided they were too predatory, not worth the DIL to players, not worth the payment to TP, so the offer wall was removed from iOS since that's all that was there. On Android since the game downloads are available which have better data security/control and offer better payments to TP and player, TP decided to keep the offer wall active.
Proud Former Officer of The Gluten Empire
Retired 12-14-20. So long, and thanks for all the cat pics!
I'm actually on Android. I feel the advantage we have now is too unfair.
At my location (thailand) there are only games on offer and any surveys are forbidden.
But most games require you to pay and if you pay why not pay for an offer directly in stt.
The realy free dilitium seemed to come from surveys , which are mostly available in the USA and some other western countries.
So if you are prepared to give away your privacy you could maybe get an advantage, but only if you are now in one of these countries and not on apple.
Many games and many players seem to forget that location and infrastructure are very important for your chances to be competitive and the gap is only growing with emphasis on USA.
Privacy concerns are important to me on principle but not in practice because internet use is already monitored by the government.
I am not using offerwall because of the concerns stated and to show my support to the long term. Players who made tools available for free.
I started stt before but since there is no tutorial its very complex and no good manual without tools like the big book or datacore i gave up fast because i did not know what to do and spend money without getting anywhere.
The learningcurve of stt is big and without the proper tools to advice you I suspect many new players will give up too.
So from a purely commercial point of view:
1)The offerwall is only available to non apple: users
2) surveys are a privacy risk and as implemented and might be unlawful in many countries.
3) offerwall is not available or very limited (i think i counted 16 games here) in many countries.
4) it resulted in free tools being withdrawn which are essential for new players to know what they are doing. If not available TP might need to build their own.
Keeping the offerwall does not seem to. Make much commercial sense.
Well said. 🖖
STT needs licences from CBS and in many cases individual actors. Without these the game can not exist.
Star trek is/was well known for its progressiveness and many actors are known to be concerned with social issues.
Associating with a controvercial company which is under fire for privacy concerns might very well put future licences at risk.
I wonder if this association was discussed with CBS.
Probably not, but some of the more upset players can definitely reach out to them for awareness.
Did Apple allow them when The Wall went live?