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Captain Thaduin Okona is missing pilot and maverick. He is the pilot and captain of his one-man cargo ship, and he also takes things into his own way of doing them. Those behaviours/skills a pilot and maverick make.
Admiral of the Haus of GaghGagh, Starbase level 94, we are not accepting members at this time.
Captain of the voyage vessels: Queen of Bashir, Landsknecht, and Sunspear, the first luxury starship cruiseliners.
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Captain Thaduin Okona is missing pilot and maverick. He is the pilot and captain of his one-man cargo ship, and he also takes things into his own way of doing them. Those behaviours/skills a pilot and maverick make.
Just raising this as something that could be fixed before the event. Katra McCoy has the Vulcan trait because he has Spock's Katra. Burnham has Sarek's Katra, was raised Vulcan culturally, and has a Vulcan adopted father.
This would be a good time to sort this out for consistency before the event starts.
This is going to be especially relevant if they give Amanda the Vulcan trait. It mostly makes sense for her since she was married to Sarek for so long and adopted portions of Vulcan culture as her own. As robownage said, Sisko has the Bajoran trait and so does Rom because they were culturally tied together.
Counting as Part-Alien is different than having a species trait.
2* Promoted Sisko has “Bajoran” but does not count as part-alien.
Similarly, isn’t there a Rom variant with the Bajoran trait? Klingon Bride Jadzia has the Klingon trait.
I think the species traits often have a lot to do with culture and not so much to do with biology. But part-alien does indeed seem to be based on biology.
My two cents- give her Vulcan, don’t count her as part-alien.
I think the species traits often have a lot to do with culture and not so much to do with biology. But part-alien does indeed seem to be based on biology.
Someone once pointed out that this is especially the case with non-Federation cultures. A Human or Vulcan would also have the Federation trait as their cultural or political trait. But Romulan or Klingon covers both. So yes, Klingon Bride Jadzia does and should have the Klingon trait, along with Federation and Trill.
I'd like Seven of Nine to have more traits like Astrophysicist, Quantum Mechanic and Resourceful. Berlinghoff Rasmussen should have Thief and the Duras Sisters should have Brutal and Villain (both individuals and fused versions).
Lon Suder should not have the Telepath trait and I don't think Picard should be considered an Astrophysicist.
You make some good points.
Seven is an Astrophysicist of sorts and Quantum Mechanics seems like a good fit as well.
I don't think Resourceful is as clear-cut, because she was more by-the-book than innovative which would be more along the lines of resourceful.
Berlinghoff should for sure have Thief.
The Duras Sisters should have Villain and I think Brutal would also fit them.
I also agree that Picard isn't an Astrophysicist, certain versions maybe, but not his regular captain versions.
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I mean I’ll take it for the mega event because I have him, but this is a misaligned trait. I know the Mintakans are proto-vulcans, but he is just dressed like them
Is there a reason why you ignored my post? Just wondering...
I was a bit distracted when I first saw it and meant to circle back to it and just forgot. I added Berlinghoff Rasmussen (Thief), B'Etor, Lursa, and The Duras Sisters (Brutal, Villain), and most of the Sevens (Astrophysics, Quantum Mechanics).
I left out Drone Seven of Nine because her knowledge of those things wasn't necessarily her own. Contrarily, as Seven on Voyager, she worked in the astrometrics lab and once cited quantum mechanics as an interest of hers.
Also, I'm reluctant to address the following traits as they're simply too broad and nebulously applied to really understand why DB has given them (or not) to any particular crew:
Crafty
Explorer
Resourceful
For instance, so far as I'm concerned, anyone who's a Jury Rigger is also by definition Resourceful, and yet I don't think there are any crew members who have both of those traits.
Thanks for addressing my suggestions ☺! To back the one about Lon Suder, here is a quote from Lon Suder himself from the episode Meld: "Most Betazoids can sense other people's emotions. I can't even sense my own."
He wasn't a Telepath not even an empath despite being Betazoid
Is there a reason why you ignored my post? Just wondering...
I was a bit distracted when I first saw it and meant to circle back to it and just forgot. I added Berlinghoff Rasmussen (Thief), B'Etor, Lursa, and The Duras Sisters (Brutal, Villain), and most of the Sevens (Astrophysics, Quantum Mechanics).
I left out Drone Seven of Nine because her knowledge of those things wasn't necessarily her own. Contrarily, as Seven on Voyager, she worked in the astrometrics lab and once cited quantum mechanics as an interest of hers.
Also, I'm reluctant to address the following traits as they're simply too broad and nebulously applied to really understand why DB has given them (or not) to any particular crew:
Crafty
Explorer
Resourceful
For instance, so far as I'm concerned, anyone who's a Jury Rigger is also by definition Resourceful, and yet I don't think there are any crew members who have both of those traits.
Out of 30 Jury Riggers, five of them also have the Resourceful trait, by my count. Mirror ‘Smiley’ O’Brien, Laborer Spock, Rianna Mayweather, Niners Rom, and Lily Sloane.
Saavik is Half Romulan, it’s non cannon but one of the producers said it.
In this thread, I don't think we have enough power to say if non-canon things should be included.
Non-canonical things can really only be brought forth by DB themselves.
So for that situation, I'm going to say Saavik doesn't need the Romulan trait.
Now if DB comes forth and says they're using the non-canon version of her, then I will change my mind.
Admiral of the Haus of GaghGagh, Starbase level 94, we are not accepting members at this time.
Captain of the voyage vessels: Queen of Bashir, Landsknecht, and Sunspear, the first luxury starship cruiseliners.
Amenities include wifi, fully-functioning holodecks, a full-service bar, 3 party decks, a Trill spa, and a business centre.
Fun fact: The ships are propelled by bouncy castle technology.
I mean I’ll take it for the mega event because I have him, but this is a misaligned trait. I know the Mintakans are proto-vulcans, but he is just dressed like them
I mean I’ll take it for the mega event because I have him, but this is a misaligned trait. I know the Mintakans are proto-vulcans, but he is just dressed like them
Like Romulan Kirk. Or Romulan Data.
Except that Kirk and Data were actually dressed like Romulans.
Is there a reason why you ignored my post? Just wondering...
I was a bit distracted when I first saw it and meant to circle back to it and just forgot. I added Berlinghoff Rasmussen (Thief), B'Etor, Lursa, and The Duras Sisters (Brutal, Villain), and most of the Sevens (Astrophysics, Quantum Mechanics).
I left out Drone Seven of Nine because her knowledge of those things wasn't necessarily her own. Contrarily, as Seven on Voyager, she worked in the astrometrics lab and once cited quantum mechanics as an interest of hers.
Also, I'm reluctant to address the following traits as they're simply too broad and nebulously applied to really understand why DB has given them (or not) to any particular crew:
Crafty
Explorer
Resourceful
For instance, so far as I'm concerned, anyone who's a Jury Rigger is also by definition Resourceful, and yet I don't think there are any crew members who have both of those traits.
Out of 30 Jury Riggers, five of them also have the Resourceful trait, by my count. Mirror ‘Smiley’ O’Brien, Laborer Spock, Rianna Mayweather, Niners Rom, and Lily Sloane.
The truly embarrassing part about this is that I have four of those five examples. Still, that leaves 25 Jury Riggers who somehow aren't Resourceful.
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Saavik is not Romulan though, she's Vulcan.
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Captain of the voyage vessels: Queen of Bashir, Landsknecht, and Sunspear, the first luxury starship cruiseliners.
Amenities include wifi, fully-functioning holodecks, a full-service bar, 3 party decks, a Trill spa, and a business centre.
Fun fact: The ships are propelled by bouncy castle technology.
Added!
This would be a good time to sort this out for consistency before the event starts.
https://forum.disruptorbeam.com/stt/discussion/4121/should-burnham-have-kept-the-part-alien-trait-for-cadet-challenges
Counting as Part-Alien is different than having a species trait.
2* Promoted Sisko has “Bajoran” but does not count as part-alien.
Similarly, isn’t there a Rom variant with the Bajoran trait? Klingon Bride Jadzia has the Klingon trait.
I think the species traits often have a lot to do with culture and not so much to do with biology. But part-alien does indeed seem to be based on biology.
My two cents- give her Vulcan, don’t count her as part-alien.
Someone once pointed out that this is especially the case with non-Federation cultures. A Human or Vulcan would also have the Federation trait as their cultural or political trait. But Romulan or Klingon covers both. So yes, Klingon Bride Jadzia does and should have the Klingon trait, along with Federation and Trill.
Add my two and we almost have a nickel.
You make some good points.
Seven is an Astrophysicist of sorts and Quantum Mechanics seems like a good fit as well.
I don't think Resourceful is as clear-cut, because she was more by-the-book than innovative which would be more along the lines of resourceful.
Berlinghoff should for sure have Thief.
The Duras Sisters should have Villain and I think Brutal would also fit them.
I also agree that Picard isn't an Astrophysicist, certain versions maybe, but not his regular captain versions.
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Amenities include wifi, fully-functioning holodecks, a full-service bar, 3 party decks, a Trill spa, and a business centre.
Fun fact: The ships are propelled by bouncy castle technology.
Frankly, thats a stretch.
Agreed.
I was a bit distracted when I first saw it and meant to circle back to it and just forgot. I added Berlinghoff Rasmussen (Thief), B'Etor, Lursa, and The Duras Sisters (Brutal, Villain), and most of the Sevens (Astrophysics, Quantum Mechanics).
I left out Drone Seven of Nine because her knowledge of those things wasn't necessarily her own. Contrarily, as Seven on Voyager, she worked in the astrometrics lab and once cited quantum mechanics as an interest of hers.
Also, I'm reluctant to address the following traits as they're simply too broad and nebulously applied to really understand why DB has given them (or not) to any particular crew:
Crafty
Explorer
Resourceful
For instance, so far as I'm concerned, anyone who's a Jury Rigger is also by definition Resourceful, and yet I don't think there are any crew members who have both of those traits.
Saavik is Half Romulan, it’s non cannon but one of the producers said it.
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"Most Betazoids can sense other people's emotions. I can't even sense my own."
He wasn't a Telepath not even an empath despite being Betazoid
Out of 30 Jury Riggers, five of them also have the Resourceful trait, by my count. Mirror ‘Smiley’ O’Brien, Laborer Spock, Rianna Mayweather, Niners Rom, and Lily Sloane.
In this thread, I don't think we have enough power to say if non-canon things should be included.
Non-canonical things can really only be brought forth by DB themselves.
So for that situation, I'm going to say Saavik doesn't need the Romulan trait.
Now if DB comes forth and says they're using the non-canon version of her, then I will change my mind.
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Fun fact: The ships are propelled by bouncy castle technology.
Anyone add these yet
Like Romulan Kirk. Or Romulan Data.
Except that Kirk and Data were actually dressed like Romulans.
Riker isn’t even dressed as a Vulcan.
The Mintakans were described as proto-Vulcan, so I'll cut DB slack on just giving them the Vulcan trait.
North Star tucker and archer missing federation
Princess Jadzia and blood oath Jadzia missing exobiologist
Gangster Spock missing exobiologist
All Burnham missing Vulcan (if katra McCoy is Vulcan and Sisko is bajoran she should be Vulcan)
The truly embarrassing part about this is that I have four of those five examples. Still, that leaves 25 Jury Riggers who somehow aren't Resourceful.
Done.