I started from scratch too. You build yourself up. If your not willing to do that it is your problem. And how do you do that? BY SENDING VOYAGES FOR CHRONS!! We didn’t even have Voyages when I started from scratch. It took longer to build yourself up cuz chrons were not readily available like they are now. You’re complaining about having to do the very thing that builds you up. Unnecessary comment removed. ˜Shan
Why would you have to pay? Any crew at all can get three dilemmas in one day. Or at least to the two hour mark three different times.
The problem is, when you have a lower amount of crew, having to use that crew on voyages, means you can't use them in cadet missions, can't use them on shuttles.
So now you have to keep at least 3 crew in for cadet missions, and how many for shuttles, say 6 if they are 3 crew shuttles (I have 2 shuttles)
When you only have a handful of crew that go out, as in my 2* go out, it isn't very easy. Not if you work all day, have a family you actually want to spend time with at night.
As it is, it is nothing to log in for 30 seconds to hit a scan or send 2 shuttles, so sure, it wouldn't be anything to do the voyage right? but add on that, the 2 hours to go out, the 45 minutes to come back, and the time it takes to re-put crew back on the shuttle. It just doesn't work.
yes it takes what, seconds to add crew, maybe so, but the problem is all those seconds add up to making this just one bad move on DB's part.
They just don't think, or care, about their players and its just thoughtless.
Also, during faction events, you never know exactly which crew will be best to man a shuttle. I know I for one hesitate to run voyages during faction events so I don’t accidentally tie up someone I might need.
This really doesn't bother me, I usually run 2x4hrs voyages and maybe hit the next dilemma on a 2hrs run before going to bed, then in the morning hit the 4hrs again so probably works out between 4-6 a day
So an extra 25,000 credits for doing exactly what I was doing anyway, yeah bit more honor wold have been nice but not really going to have a meltdown. There are days when I am saving crons I don't the 200 honor anyway (no before you ask I have less than 30k of honor and don't get it as rapidly as some of you out there and need probably about 1,000,000 to FF my crew, which will probably take 10 years to get)
Would've been fine if they'd increased the honor we got from completing the daily missions. This is just detrimental to lower-level players.
Why can't it be hard for lower level players? I would see it as a goal to start getting better due to training crew, getting new crew over time, otherwise we may as well give all new players 500 FF/FE crew, would be nothing left to do in the game
I think the dilemma daily should be under achievements, instead of under dailies. First because new players will never get their dailies and 2nd because if you've done 3 dilemmas is it not an achievement?
I think the dilemma daily should be under achievements, instead of under dailies. First because new players will never get their dailies and 2nd because if you've done 3 dilemmas is it not an achievement?
Well hitting dilemmas is an achievement already
If newer players never hit their dailies than this makes no difference
This doesn't work ... at all. It will kill long voyages. If I'm paying dil to run a voyage, I shouldn't have to pay 3 times to get the daily reward. That makes no sense whatsoever. I guess until they reverse this idiotic course of action, I'll just have to voyage closer to home and DB will be out the dil (and the cash)they could have had if they hadn't screwed things up.
I just got a 20 hour mission back; I didn't have enough dilemmas today, but I can't even think about starting a new voyage because my crew won't make it back today.
Why would you have to pay? Any crew at all can get three dilemmas in one day. Or at least to the two hour mark three different times.
...and what if I want to run a voyage longer than 3 dilemmas?
Then run a voyage longer than three dilemmas. Even better. It’s not “start three Voyages” it’s solve three dilemmas
No, you're completely misunderstanding my point. I had a long voyage going when this change was implemented. I solved two dilemmas, paying dil on each, but I'd probably have had to pay dil twice to solve the third. That was too much. But by the time I got my crew back it was too late to send out another crew to get the 3rd. I'll solve this by not sending out long voyages and spending dil on them. I'll lose out on the chrons and crew I was after and DB will lose out on me buying extra dil, but I guess that's what they want.
This doesn't work ... at all. It will kill long voyages. If I'm paying dil to run a voyage, I shouldn't have to pay 3 times to get the daily reward. That makes no sense whatsoever. I guess until they reverse this idiotic course of action, I'll just have to voyage closer to home and DB will be out the dil (and the cash)they could have had if they hadn't screwed things up.
I just got a 20 hour mission back; I didn't have enough dilemmas today, but I can't even think about starting a new voyage because my crew won't make it back today.
Why would you have to pay? Any crew at all can get three dilemmas in one day. Or at least to the two hour mark three different times.
...and what if I want to run a voyage longer than 3 dilemmas?
Then run a voyage longer than three dilemmas. Even better. It’s not “start three Voyages” it’s solve three dilemmas
No, you're completely misunderstanding my point. I had a long voyage going when this change was implemented. I solved two dilemmas, paying dil on each, but I'd probably have had to pay dil twice to solve the third. That was too much. But by the time I got my crew back it was too late to send out another crew to get the 3rd. I'll solve this by not sending out long voyages and spending dil on them. I'll lose out on the chrons and crew I was after and DB will lose out on me buying extra dil, but I guess that's what they want.
Oh I gotcha. Your return time alone did not leave you enough time for three dilemmas. Well, that’s o my one day of not hitting the daily though. You should be able to any other day
I started from scratch too. You build yourself up. If your not willing to do that it is your problem. And how do you do that? BY SENDING VOYAGES FOR CHRONS!! We didn’t even have Voyages when I started from scratch. It took longer to build yourself up cuz chrons were not readily available like they are now. You’re complaining about having to do the very thing that builds you up. Unnecessary comment removed. ˜Shan
Not complaining, stating a fact.
Fact: Honor is good, it is a reward for finishing dailies, yes, not always around, but useful.
Fact: People have lives outside this game
Fact: adding more stuff to do every single day, to play a game, and get a reward like 200 honor, makes it less enjoyable and more tedious for those people who have a life outside this game, and not as much time or crew, to do everything that needs to be done.
Fact: it isn't about using chronitons to build up crew because, I have plenty of chronitons. (see attached picture)
Fact: 11,335 chronitons is a decent amount, along with 32 messages of mostly sorrytons, including the 3k one.
My point is, for casual players, adding yet another time limited requirement, takes away the fact that now getting a daily 200 honor has went from about 50% chance to 10% chance, or less. This doesn't make the game better, and I'm not the only one it doesn't' make the game better for.
Truth is, it doesn't make the game better for anyone, because 25 merit, well lets face it, not even the newest of new would loose sleep over not having that 25 merit.
11/11 takes away 200 honor and gives 25 merit - fair trade? I think not. Not unless DB wants to start selling 200 Honor in the faction base for 25 merit, that may make it OK lol
Also, during faction events, you never know exactly which crew will be best to man a shuttle. I know I for one hesitate to run voyages during faction events so I don’t accidentally tie up someone I might need.
Oh yeah for sure, I don't run them ever during faction events, except while I am sleeping!
I started from scratch too. You build yourself up. If your not willing to do that it is your problem. And how do you do that? BY SENDING VOYAGES FOR CHRONS!! We didn’t even have Voyages when I started from scratch. It took longer to build yourself up cuz chrons were not readily available like they are now. You’re complaining about having to do the very thing that builds you up. Unnecessary comment removed. ˜Shan
Not complaining, stating a fact.
Fact: Honor is good, it is a reward for finishing dailies, yes, not always around, but useful.
Fact: People have lives outside this game
Fact: adding more stuff to do every single day, to play a game, and get a reward like 200 honor, makes it less enjoyable and more tedious for those people who have a life outside this game, and not as much time or crew, to do everything that needs to be done.
Fact: it isn't about using chronitons to build up crew because, I have plenty of chronitons. (see attached picture)
Fact: 11,335 chronitons is a decent amount, along with 32 messages of mostly sorrytons, including the 3k one.
My point is, for casual players, adding yet another time limited requirement, takes away the fact that now getting a daily 200 honor has went from about 50% chance to 10% chance, or less. This doesn't make the game better, and I'm not the only one it doesn't' make the game better for.
Truth is, it doesn't make the game better for anyone, because 25 merit, well lets face it, not even the newest of new would loose sleep over not having that 25 merit.
11/11 takes away 200 honor and gives 25 merit - fair trade? I think not. Not unless DB wants to start selling 200 Honor in the faction base for 25 merit, that may make it OK lol
Fact: Folks opposed still only accounting for 39% of respondents in poll....
I actually didn't think it'd shake out this way, but I think this may be somewhat representative, that most folks either dont' care or see this as positive.
I have a new perspective with my new job. I could get the 10 dailies with a bit if planning and logging on twice a day for a half hour or so. I used to log in every hour or so, so the dailies were easy. Now I am more limited. For the most part, the voyage daily is still attainable, but it is harder. The frustration I feel is due to the fact that the harder goals do not have a corrisponding reward.
Ultimately, though, the new daily is unfair because those who pay to extend voyages are punished.
Just missed the 200 honor for the first time since it was added last night. Sure glad DB gave me a new option for 25 merits that's exactly what I've wanted instead of honor.
I started from scratch too. You build yourself up. If your not willing to do that it is your problem. And how do you do that? BY SENDING VOYAGES FOR CHRONS!! We didn’t even have Voyages when I started from scratch. It took longer to build yourself up cuz chrons were not readily available like they are now. You’re complaining about having to do the very thing that builds you up. Unnecessary comment removed. ˜Shan
Not complaining, stating a fact.
Fact: Honor is good, it is a reward for finishing dailies, yes, not always around, but useful.
Fact: People have lives outside this game
Fact: adding more stuff to do every single day, to play a game, and get a reward like 200 honor, makes it less enjoyable and more tedious for those people who have a life outside this game, and not as much time or crew, to do everything that needs to be done.
Fact: it isn't about using chronitons to build up crew because, I have plenty of chronitons. (see attached picture)
Fact: 11,335 chronitons is a decent amount, along with 32 messages of mostly sorrytons, including the 3k one.
My point is, for casual players, adding yet another time limited requirement, takes away the fact that now getting a daily 200 honor has went from about 50% chance to 10% chance, or less. This doesn't make the game better, and I'm not the only one it doesn't' make the game better for.
Truth is, it doesn't make the game better for anyone, because 25 merit, well lets face it, not even the newest of new would loose sleep over not having that 25 merit.
11/11 takes away 200 honor and gives 25 merit - fair trade? I think not. Not unless DB wants to start selling 200 Honor in the faction base for 25 merit, that may make it OK lol
Fact: Folks opposed still only accounting for 39% of respondents in poll....
I actually didn't think it'd shake out this way, but I think this may be somewhat representative, that most folks either dont' care or see this as positive.
On top of that, I would be interested in the fraction directly impacted vs. Impacting a fleetmate/other person for those who dislike the change.
Fact: Folks opposed still only accounting for 39% of respondents in poll....
I actually didn't think it'd shake out this way, but I think this may be somewhat representative, that most folks either dont' care or see this as positive.
53, 60, 38 (35%, 39%, 25%) (this is as of 3/11 @3pm
151 people - doesn't seem like a huge representation of numbers to say, either way, what it truly impacts on the player base, and I'm sure that is a fact we can all agree on.
The thing is, there may be a lot of people like me, who just gives up on even trying or caring. I came to the forums for this specific topic (i have been here before but don't make it a habit).
I've been tempted a few times to spend money on this game, unfortunately my friends did so on the VIP scam, and after that I just couldn't be bothered to spend any money with this company. Doesn't mean I don't enjoy the game, doesn't mean I would never spend anything. I am more than willing to, should they show they care about their players. (i.e they still haven't made their bogus vip system right, they haven't righted a wrong from inception of this game)
They have added some good things, and they get close at times, to pull it off, but then they go and add something like this, which, to me, sets them back at zero.
On stupid mishap like this, where they aren't thinking at all about the players and what impact this could have on them, sets back all the good that is done with being able to sort the vault, for instance.
I now play less, if I use to push myself to get the 200 honor because i need it, but now when I know I can't get my 3 voyages in, I just don't bother doing anything else other than a few basics.
Lets face it, I won't spend money on a game I play less, if I didn't spend it on a game I played more.
Why not have the voyage requirement not count towards the daily goals. Just have it be a seperate thing. Or have it be you do any 10/11 to get your 200 honor. Or increase the honor to 400 so if you miss every other day you havent lost anything.
My vote is no. For one, depending on your timing between dilemmas and recall, I'm finding it very hard to get 3 dilemmas in some days, and when I'm on the hunt for 4* cards, I'm trying to hit longer and longer Voyages. (Although my last 12 hour one netted me a grand total of 0 4* cards...)
Alternatively, I'll stop utilizing dilithium to extend voyages and just recall when it runs out if it means I have better opportunity to hit the daily targets. This makes me not try to do the other daily tasks as hard if I'm going to have less opportunity to get the reward. I'd rather just see it be complete 1 dilemma.
Additionally, if we've gotten an additional task to complete, we should be getting a larger reward. Before, it was 10 tasks for 200 honor, now it's 11 tasks for 200 honor. I feel like an employee who got additional responsibilities with no pay increase.
I love the suggestion earlier in the thread about making the daily target goal accumulate like the Fleet Targets do - milestones along the way. Then if you're still able to get 10 of 11 finished but just can't get that third dilemma in, you don't lose out completely. It would be a good trade-off to keep people incentivized in the daily target missions.
Would've been fine if they'd increased the honor we got from completing the daily missions. This is just detrimental to lower-level players.
Why can't it be hard for lower level players? I would see it as a goal to start getting better due to training crew, getting new crew over time, otherwise we may as well give all new players 500 FF/FE crew, would be nothing left to do in the game
Also, why should new players hit the dailies? this is why we build and train crew
I thought that dailies were supposed to be something that everyone can do, a list of things that simply require participation, then offer a sense of accomplishment.
They were the first and most fun thing for me as a new player, which encouraged involvement.
There are many other things in the game which require lots of crew building. It's not necessary for dailies to be one of those things.
A newbie fleet member who I accepted in specifically because of her awesome attitude, is now disappointed that she can't complete the final 3-dilemma daily when beforehand she was motivated to go around doing all the daily stuff.
Achievements feel like a goal. This is just a downer.
If they'd add the extra achievement but leave the requirement for the completion honour at 10/10 (so any 10 you like out of the 11), that would avoid this issue.
I started from scratch too. You build yourself up. If your not willing to do that it is your problem. And how do you do that? BY SENDING VOYAGES FOR CHRONS!! We didn’t even have Voyages when I started from scratch. It took longer to build yourself up cuz chrons were not readily available like they are now. You’re complaining about having to do the very thing that builds you up. Unnecessary comment removed. ˜Shan
Not complaining, stating a fact.
Fact: Honor is good, it is a reward for finishing dailies, yes, not always around, but useful.
Fact: People have lives outside this game
Fact: adding more stuff to do every single day, to play a game, and get a reward like 200 honor, makes it less enjoyable and more tedious for those people who have a life outside this game, and not as much time or crew, to do everything that needs to be done.
Fact: it isn't about using chronitons to build up crew because, I have plenty of chronitons. (see attached picture)
Fact: 11,335 chronitons is a decent amount, along with 32 messages of mostly sorrytons, including the 3k one.
My point is, for casual players, adding yet another time limited requirement, takes away the fact that now getting a daily 200 honor has went from about 50% chance to 10% chance, or less. This doesn't make the game better, and I'm not the only one it doesn't' make the game better for.
Truth is, it doesn't make the game better for anyone, because 25 merit, well lets face it, not even the newest of new would loose sleep over not having that 25 merit.
11/11 takes away 200 honor and gives 25 merit - fair trade? I think not. Not unless DB wants to start selling 200 Honor in the faction base for 25 merit, that may make it OK lol
Fact: Folks opposed still only accounting for 39% of respondents in poll....
I actually didn't think it'd shake out this way, but I think this may be somewhat representative, that most folks either dont' care or see this as positive.
Only? Any company would count it as a massive failure if they rolled out something new and 41% of their customers were unhappy about it.
I'd have no issue if Voyages didn't take so long to hit dilemmas. If you have a bunch of bad RNG you could run out of antimatter before getting #3. Sure you could quit after 2, wait an hour then start another if you are low. Missed it yesterday because I couldn't get in #3 before the reset.
Okay, so, some days this is how it works out for me, with 00:00 being my first login of the day:
00:00 Log in, start voyage
02:00 First Dilemma
04:00 Second Dilemma
05:57 Recall Voyage due to low AM remaining
08:10 Complete voyage & send out new one
10:10 Third Dilemma
... with all of this assuming that I’m online ready to solve a dilemma right on the dot, and I’m sending new voyages out ASAP, instead of trying to crit a node between voyages like I often do.
But still, even with those assumptions, if I don’t log in until noon, I can’t complete the daily before bedtime.
And sometimes I have hectic mornings, and can’t log in until later.
Here is a nice twist, with daylight savings, the biggest chances I have of completing this stupid daily just went sideways - 1 am reset instead of midnight.
I am not staying up until 1 am to do a dilemma sometimes, sometimes, I could stay up until just after midnight.
So pissed, this is just stupid.
Thanks for giving us 200 honor as a chance, and taking it away with stupid moves like this.
I have no dog in this fight, as with my VIP 62436 account and my VIP 0 account, my day and play style is set around quick 5 minute check-ins every hour or two. That allows me to finish all dailies on both accounts well before dinner time.
Now that's just me, and I know many folks who have posted and shared their side are impacted in some fashion. Not everyone plays the game on a phone they carry with them in their pockets all day. Not everyone has access to internet 24/7. Not everyone has the same playstyle, goals or objectives. But at the end of the day, we all play. Yay. I'm just going for more rhymes, so what the hay, hear what I say, bae? K? It's late and to my bed I must go lay before through my window come the morning ray.
Anyway
Unrelated but related, we were having a discussion on Discord the other night about crew slots, and I noticed that the Wiki page for crew slots was out of date - didn't properly display the current MIN/MAX available to a player. I pulled out a spare phone and started up a new account and new game to confirm the floor of slots is at 65. That was Thursday. It's Sunday. I'm still playing that account - but not because I'm oddly addicted to this game - no, it' s because I'm interested how this new daily may curb a brand new player and it's swinging my vote from "I don't care" to "We need to make it 10/11 for the 200 honor".
A brand new player can, at best, do an hour Voyage without it dying. They just don't have the crew to do any better, which means they can't hit dilemmas, which means they can't clear dailies. Now, I don't know about you, but if I go download a new game from the interwebs, install it on my phone and start to play - and one of the first things I notice is that it is absolutely totally impossible for me to clear the daily goals UNLESS I SPEND MONEY, I'll uninstall that game immediately. What has happened, inadvertently, is that you've told a brand new player that they can't play or advance in this game without spending. And this is me playing a new account, so I am probably a few days ahead progress wise where a complete n00b would be on the same account.
TL;DR
We need to change the requirement to be 10/11 dailies for new players, if not for existing players. This isn't a feasible goal for too many.
I hate it - it adds too much of a time requirement to a "casual" game. Before, I could stagger the 7 faction missions (12 hours of real time) over the day, get in the rest of the Cadets and other missions, and still be able to hold down a job :-) But, add in the 3 Dilemmas need to get the 11 Dailies done, and you're asking for another 8-9 hours of attention to the game. And unlike Faction missions, you can't just launch a voyage and go to bed. Or even turn your back on it - the anti-matter level has to be monitored. So voyages have to be done in the waking hours when you can hit the recall button, either after enough time has passed, or the fuel runs too low. And since I seem to able able to launch only 1 voyage at a time, it takes too big a chunk out of the day.
I could *maybe* handle 1 Dilemma per day - that's only 2 hours of wall time to keep track of things. But having to get 3 - *that* pushed the game over line from casual to overly-involved.
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Also, during faction events, you never know exactly which crew will be best to man a shuttle. I know I for one hesitate to run voyages during faction events so I don’t accidentally tie up someone I might need.
So an extra 25,000 credits for doing exactly what I was doing anyway, yeah bit more honor wold have been nice but not really going to have a meltdown. There are days when I am saving crons I don't the 200 honor anyway (no before you ask I have less than 30k of honor and don't get it as rapidly as some of you out there and need probably about 1,000,000 to FF my crew, which will probably take 10 years to get)
Why can't it be hard for lower level players? I would see it as a goal to start getting better due to training crew, getting new crew over time, otherwise we may as well give all new players 500 FF/FE crew, would be nothing left to do in the game
Depending on my day, sometimes that would have been sooner, sometime later
Well hitting dilemmas is an achievement already
If newer players never hit their dailies than this makes no difference
No, you're completely misunderstanding my point. I had a long voyage going when this change was implemented. I solved two dilemmas, paying dil on each, but I'd probably have had to pay dil twice to solve the third. That was too much. But by the time I got my crew back it was too late to send out another crew to get the 3rd. I'll solve this by not sending out long voyages and spending dil on them. I'll lose out on the chrons and crew I was after and DB will lose out on me buying extra dil, but I guess that's what they want.
Oh I gotcha. Your return time alone did not leave you enough time for three dilemmas. Well, that’s o my one day of not hitting the daily though. You should be able to any other day
Not complaining, stating a fact.
Fact: Honor is good, it is a reward for finishing dailies, yes, not always around, but useful.
Fact: People have lives outside this game
Fact: adding more stuff to do every single day, to play a game, and get a reward like 200 honor, makes it less enjoyable and more tedious for those people who have a life outside this game, and not as much time or crew, to do everything that needs to be done.
Fact: it isn't about using chronitons to build up crew because, I have plenty of chronitons. (see attached picture)
Fact: 11,335 chronitons is a decent amount, along with 32 messages of mostly sorrytons, including the 3k one.
My point is, for casual players, adding yet another time limited requirement, takes away the fact that now getting a daily 200 honor has went from about 50% chance to 10% chance, or less. This doesn't make the game better, and I'm not the only one it doesn't' make the game better for.
Truth is, it doesn't make the game better for anyone, because 25 merit, well lets face it, not even the newest of new would loose sleep over not having that 25 merit.
11/11 takes away 200 honor and gives 25 merit - fair trade? I think not. Not unless DB wants to start selling 200 Honor in the faction base for 25 merit, that may make it OK lol
Oh yeah for sure, I don't run them ever during faction events, except while I am sleeping!
Fact: Folks opposed still only accounting for 39% of respondents in poll....
I actually didn't think it'd shake out this way, but I think this may be somewhat representative, that most folks either dont' care or see this as positive.
Ultimately, though, the new daily is unfair because those who pay to extend voyages are punished.
On top of that, I would be interested in the fraction directly impacted vs. Impacting a fleetmate/other person for those who dislike the change.
53, 60, 38 (35%, 39%, 25%) (this is as of 3/11 @3pm
151 people - doesn't seem like a huge representation of numbers to say, either way, what it truly impacts on the player base, and I'm sure that is a fact we can all agree on.
The thing is, there may be a lot of people like me, who just gives up on even trying or caring. I came to the forums for this specific topic (i have been here before but don't make it a habit).
I've been tempted a few times to spend money on this game, unfortunately my friends did so on the VIP scam, and after that I just couldn't be bothered to spend any money with this company. Doesn't mean I don't enjoy the game, doesn't mean I would never spend anything. I am more than willing to, should they show they care about their players. (i.e they still haven't made their bogus vip system right, they haven't righted a wrong from inception of this game)
They have added some good things, and they get close at times, to pull it off, but then they go and add something like this, which, to me, sets them back at zero.
On stupid mishap like this, where they aren't thinking at all about the players and what impact this could have on them, sets back all the good that is done with being able to sort the vault, for instance.
I now play less, if I use to push myself to get the 200 honor because i need it, but now when I know I can't get my 3 voyages in, I just don't bother doing anything else other than a few basics.
Lets face it, I won't spend money on a game I play less, if I didn't spend it on a game I played more.
Alternatively, I'll stop utilizing dilithium to extend voyages and just recall when it runs out if it means I have better opportunity to hit the daily targets. This makes me not try to do the other daily tasks as hard if I'm going to have less opportunity to get the reward. I'd rather just see it be complete 1 dilemma.
Additionally, if we've gotten an additional task to complete, we should be getting a larger reward. Before, it was 10 tasks for 200 honor, now it's 11 tasks for 200 honor. I feel like an employee who got additional responsibilities with no pay increase.
I love the suggestion earlier in the thread about making the daily target goal accumulate like the Fleet Targets do - milestones along the way. Then if you're still able to get 10 of 11 finished but just can't get that third dilemma in, you don't lose out completely. It would be a good trade-off to keep people incentivized in the daily target missions.
I thought that dailies were supposed to be something that everyone can do, a list of things that simply require participation, then offer a sense of accomplishment.
They were the first and most fun thing for me as a new player, which encouraged involvement.
There are many other things in the game which require lots of crew building. It's not necessary for dailies to be one of those things.
A newbie fleet member who I accepted in specifically because of her awesome attitude, is now disappointed that she can't complete the final 3-dilemma daily when beforehand she was motivated to go around doing all the daily stuff.
Achievements feel like a goal. This is just a downer.
If they'd add the extra achievement but leave the requirement for the completion honour at 10/10 (so any 10 you like out of the 11), that would avoid this issue.
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Only? Any company would count it as a massive failure if they rolled out something new and 41% of their customers were unhappy about it.
00:00 Log in, start voyage
02:00 First Dilemma
04:00 Second Dilemma
05:57 Recall Voyage due to low AM remaining
08:10 Complete voyage & send out new one
10:10 Third Dilemma
... with all of this assuming that I’m online ready to solve a dilemma right on the dot, and I’m sending new voyages out ASAP, instead of trying to crit a node between voyages like I often do.
But still, even with those assumptions, if I don’t log in until noon, I can’t complete the daily before bedtime.
And sometimes I have hectic mornings, and can’t log in until later.
I am not staying up until 1 am to do a dilemma sometimes, sometimes, I could stay up until just after midnight.
So pissed, this is just stupid.
Thanks for giving us 200 honor as a chance, and taking it away with stupid moves like this.
Now that's just me, and I know many folks who have posted and shared their side are impacted in some fashion. Not everyone plays the game on a phone they carry with them in their pockets all day. Not everyone has access to internet 24/7. Not everyone has the same playstyle, goals or objectives. But at the end of the day, we all play. Yay. I'm just going for more rhymes, so what the hay, hear what I say, bae? K? It's late and to my bed I must go lay before through my window come the morning ray.
Anyway
Unrelated but related, we were having a discussion on Discord the other night about crew slots, and I noticed that the Wiki page for crew slots was out of date - didn't properly display the current MIN/MAX available to a player. I pulled out a spare phone and started up a new account and new game to confirm the floor of slots is at 65. That was Thursday. It's Sunday. I'm still playing that account - but not because I'm oddly addicted to this game - no, it' s because I'm interested how this new daily may curb a brand new player and it's swinging my vote from "I don't care" to "We need to make it 10/11 for the 200 honor".
A brand new player can, at best, do an hour Voyage without it dying. They just don't have the crew to do any better, which means they can't hit dilemmas, which means they can't clear dailies. Now, I don't know about you, but if I go download a new game from the interwebs, install it on my phone and start to play - and one of the first things I notice is that it is absolutely totally impossible for me to clear the daily goals UNLESS I SPEND MONEY, I'll uninstall that game immediately. What has happened, inadvertently, is that you've told a brand new player that they can't play or advance in this game without spending. And this is me playing a new account, so I am probably a few days ahead progress wise where a complete n00b would be on the same account.
TL;DR
We need to change the requirement to be 10/11 dailies for new players, if not for existing players. This isn't a feasible goal for too many.
I could *maybe* handle 1 Dilemma per day - that's only 2 hours of wall time to keep track of things. But having to get 3 - *that* pushed the game over line from casual to overly-involved.