warp cadet missions that have been 3*'d, just like regular missions
this would immediately alleviate the need to keep 15-16 greens/blues on many active rosters
Honestly I stopped doing the cadet missions entirely. Not worth the time and effort. I have no cadets. It still didn’t solve my crew slot problem. I just want to be able to warp them. That’s all. I don’t want to warp them for the slots, I want to warp them because I’m tired of doing them.
No cadet missions ever? You must not like getting honor, chrons, shuttle boosts, or hard-to-obtain items for a few minutes a day of tapping.
Yep. You read that right. I get enough honor from my fleet to get a 5* citation once a month.
How are you accomplishing that? You get 570 honor a day from fleet rewards. That's 17,100 honor in 30 days. A 5* citation is 50,000 honor. How are you getting 50,000 honor a month from your fleet?
Averaging 1000 honor/day from voyages isn't an outrageous amount...
That wouldn't be from the Fleet and they specified from the Fleet.
Also I'm running 8-10 hours of voyages every day and it's never more than 300 or so honor. Not sure how you could get 1,000 from voyages each day?
Edit: Just saw his response about wording it incorrectly.
Honor + Honor from Airlocks, my 8hr average is probably in the 700-1000 average range. With 8hr voyages, I'd say I average 1.5 voyages per day, which would put my (guestimate) voyage average around 1200.
If you're only getting 300 on average from honor + airlocks...then..sorry?
Hear here! I’m not sure what has triggered the Ayn Rand contingent to start telling everyone they’re playing the game wrong. Some busking parody songs, a lot of legitimate suggestions and good old fashioned begging takes nothing away from anyone.
warp cadet missions that have been 3*'d, just like regular missions
this would immediately alleviate the need to keep 15-16 greens/blues on many active rosters
Honestly I stopped doing the cadet missions entirely. Not worth the time and effort. I have no cadets. It still didn’t solve my crew slot problem. I just want to be able to warp them. That’s all. I don’t want to warp them for the slots, I want to warp them because I’m tired of doing them.
No cadet missions ever? You must not like getting honor, chrons, shuttle boosts, or hard-to-obtain items for a few minutes a day of tapping.
Yep. You read that right. I get enough honor from my fleet daily achievements and other things to get a 5* citation bi-monthly. STJ for the win! I’m currently sitting on 5,000 chrons. Got hundreds of 3* boosts. And hard to obtain items I just replicate.... so Yeah. I think I’m doing okay. Doesn’t change the fact that having all the cadet missions at 3* makes me want to warp the *Amazing Poutine* out of them.
5,000 chronitons in in-game messages or actually sitting in your inventory? Because if it’s in your inventory, you’re losing out on more than just the 375 per week from cadet missions - you’re losing 240 a day, every day. Assuming you expend chrons during Galaxy events, which happen every 1-3 weeks, that’s thousands of chrons you’re leaving on the table.
I’m super happy for you if you get what you need only from voyages but I couldn’t do what you do knowing on what I'm missing out on.
I have already mentioned this recently on another thread, with the crew diversity to be held by everyone to play most parts of the game, more crew slots are needed, specially for VIP 0 people, 75 crew slots are nothing you can compete with the rest, and 75 after buying the 5 + 5 with Federation Credits.
Honor + Honor from Airlocks, my 8hr average is probably in the 700-1000 average range. With 8hr voyages, I'd say I average 1.5 voyages per day, which would put my (guestimate) voyage average around 1200.
If you're only getting 300 on average from honor + airlocks...then..sorry?
Yeah. I pretty much always go at least 8h now and even with really "bad" crew voyages like the one I have coming back now I get about 500 honor minimum. Current one was all greens from the dilemmas and only one random blue beyond that. So 222 straight honor, 4x greens for 200 honor and 1x blue for 100 honor.
I have already mentioned this recently on another thread, with the crew diversity to be held by everyone to play most parts of the game, more crew slots are needed, specially for VIP 0 people, 75 crew slots are nothing you can compete with the rest, and 75 after buying the 5 + 5 with Federation Credits.
75 slots is enough to do everything. You should have:
1* - ZERO
2* - between 4 and 6 (Crusher, Wildman, Yar, Sito, Dax for cadets. Throw in one more if you have space to make it easy or take one away if you don't have space.)
3* - 6 (Smiley and Kang for arena) (Saavik, Money, Deanna, Lawaxana for weekend)
That's a total of 10-12 crew for commander arena and all cadet missions. You have space for 63-65 four and five star crew.
12 for arena
approx 4 arena specialists (this could be zero though)
I have already mentioned this recently on another thread, with the crew diversity to be held by everyone to play most parts of the game, more crew slots are needed, specially for VIP 0 people, 75 crew slots are nothing you can compete with the rest, and 75 after buying the 5 + 5 with Federation Credits.
75 slots is enough to do everything. You should have:
1* - ZERO
2* - between 4 and 6 (Crusher, Wildman, Yar, Sito, Dax for cadets. Throw in one more if you have space to make it easy or take one away if you don't have space.)
3* - 6 (Smiley and Kang for arena) (Saavik, Money, Deanna, Lawaxana for weekend)
That's a total of 10-12 crew for commander arena and all cadet missions. You have space for 63-65 four and five star crew.
12 for arena
approx 4 arena specialists (this could be zero though)
You have 47-49 slots left to play with.
A person can survive on rice, beans and vitamins for months. It doesn't make it fun.
All these "You can get by with" responses to requests for additional crew slots incorrectly assume that we don't understand minimalist strategy of crew management. The sheer number of "Bottleneck/Who should I airlock?" posts in the Ready Room area indicate that people are all too aware of how to institute bare bones play. It's just not that fun over the long term.
A person can survive on rice, beans and vitamins for months. It doesn't make it fun.
All these "You can get by with" responses to requests for additional crew slots incorrectly assume that we don't understand minimalist strategy of crew management. The sheer number of "Bottleneck/Who should I airlock?" posts in the Ready Room area indicate that people are all too aware of how to institute bare bones play. It's just not that fun over the long term.
I'm sorry if you feel this is a little blunt but...maybe bare bones spending results in bare bones play. DB has expenses.
A person can survive on rice, beans and vitamins for months. It doesn't make it fun.
All these "You can get by with" responses to requests for additional crew slots incorrectly assume that we don't understand minimalist strategy of crew management. The sheer number of "Bottleneck/Who should I airlock?" posts in the Ready Room area indicate that people are all too aware of how to institute bare bones play. It's just not that fun over the long term.
I'm sorry if you feel this is a little blunt but...maybe bare bones spending results in bare bones play. DB has expenses.
You underestimate the contribution of VIP0 players to the quality of play in this game. Having a wide user base enhances the game experience of paying players. It behooves everyone, as well as DB, to maintain quality gameplay for all players. And I'm sure the ad revenue provides at least a little income for the company. It's pretty elitist to dismiss them as non-essential.
A person can survive on rice, beans and vitamins for months. It doesn't make it fun.
All these "You can get by with" responses to requests for additional crew slots incorrectly assume that we don't understand minimalist strategy of crew management. The sheer number of "Bottleneck/Who should I airlock?" posts in the Ready Room area indicate that people are all too aware of how to institute bare bones play. It's just not that fun over the long term.
I'm sorry if you feel this is a little blunt but...maybe bare bones spending results in bare bones play. DB has expenses.
You underestimate the contribution of VIP0 players to the quality of play in this game. Having a wide user base enhances the game experience of paying players. It behooves everyone, as well as DB, to maintain quality gameplay for all players. And I'm sure the ad revenue provides at least a little income for the company. It's pretty elitist to dismiss them as non-essential.
oh man...the claws come out pretty easy. I'm sorry if you feel so personally attacked here bro. However, it is not dismissing VIP0 players if I say DB has bills to pay. It is not dismissing VIP0 players if I say "you get what you pay for". What spending really comes down to is you pay to make the game easier. Like I said earlier, you can do EVERYTHING in this game with 75 crew.
Everything except compete that is, because you’re going to cripple yourself that way in faction events. As far as technically performing each game function goes yes you are correct that is possible.
Everything except compete that is, because you’re going to cripple yourself that way in faction events. As far as technically performing each game function goes yes you are correct that is possible.
Why can't you compete in faction events? You need on average 4 crew per mission. As a VIP0 player you get what, 3 shuttles? Lets say you used the dil you earned from achievements and collections and whatever else to get you the all important 4th shuttle. That is 16 crew you need for the faction event. With a few different missions needing slightly different crew, lets say for the sake of argument you need 20 crew (which I think is high). Only a couple of them are going to be special event crew. The rest are just gonna be what you have at the highest levels. Same crew in every event. So really the only crew that need to change from event to event are the special event crew. I believe you are capable of fitting them in. I recognize it won't be easy, but I believe you can make it happen with good inventory and time management.
also, remember you don't have to compete in EVERY event. Get your crew strait, get your boosts built up by skipping an event from time to time. Then go big on that one event you really like the crew for.
Everything except compete that is, because you’re going to cripple yourself that way in faction events. As far as technically performing each game function goes yes you are correct that is possible.
Why can't you compete in faction events? You need on average 4 crew per mission. As a VIP0 player you get what, 3 shuttles? Lets say you used the dil you earned from achievements and collections and whatever else to get you the all important 4th shuttle. That is 16 crew you need for the faction event. With a few different missions needing slightly different crew, lets say for the sake of argument you need 20 crew (which I think is high). Only a couple of them are going to be special event crew. The rest are just gonna be what you have at the highest levels. Same crew in every event. So really the only crew that need to change from event to event are the special event crew. I believe you are capable of fitting them in. I recognize it won't be easy, but I believe you can make it happen with good inventory and time management.
also, remember you don't have to compete in EVERY event. Get your crew strait, get your boosts built up by skipping an event from time to time. Then go big on that one event you really like the crew for.
Yeah, but considering how few slots they theoretically have, they won’t stand a chance against the players that had the slots to accumulate 14 picard variants etc. I’m just saying yes technically they can play the event, but they’re in the ring with both arms tied behind their back. It’s gonna be a blood bath. I don’t consider that competing.
Yeah, but considering how few slots they theoretically have, they won’t stand a chance against the players that had the slots to accumulate 14 picard variants etc. I’m just saying yes technically they can play the event, but they’re in the ring with both arms tied behind their back. It’s gonna be a blood bath. I don’t consider that competing.
Just so I'm clear, your argument is we need more free crew slots so VIP0 can compete with VIP14?
I’m just saying the current system is inadequate. Most people want to use their monthly card on something other than slots month after month, they are too stingy and overpriced with them. Also if you like keeping your golds and purples than a monthly card can’t even do that!
Maybe if they made beholds 5x more frequent, reduced the time it took someone to enter the time portal to 1 month, returned voyages to their former glory, and deleted the cost for thawing our frozens we might be able to fuse up people fast enough and move them around in time. If they’re hard set on no crew slot adjustments that would certainly help. Then again changing honor values to something more favorable would also alleviate the issue.
Hey I get what you're saying. I wouldn't want to be a VIP0 with only 75 slots. I wanted the game to be easy, so I took the easy route with $$$. I have respect for the folks that are VIP0 and working hard to make it work. I know from my early days that it can be done. (i might have been VIP1 or 2 to be honest)
All that said, If free crew slots is really the #1 most important addition to people then they should advocate for it. But I still think we'd all be better off if DB gave us other things instead. Like new content. Hey, who knows...maybe we'll all get what we want.
EDIT: I didn't see your most updated post. All of those would be welcome content changes. Fix voyages to be awesome again. Who doesn't like more beholds? And realistic honor for airlocking crew. These are the types of changes I'd like to see. That and actual success percentages. Maybe increase the 5* odds on packs (particularly worst chance packs)
New content is definitely needed. I can get behind that as well. As much as unlimited slots would be amazing! I certainly wouldn’t scoff at some form of compromise. Maybe something that requires a lot of work but is consistent. Like the immortalization tiers. If they gave 5 slots instead of dilithium I think that would be a good compromise. It’s consistent, gradual, and difficult. I really expected slots to be rewards here at higher tiers when they were first introduced.
warp cadet missions that have been 3*'d, just like regular missions
this would immediately alleviate the need to keep 15-16 greens/blues on many active rosters
Honestly I stopped doing the cadet missions entirely. Not worth the time and effort. I have no cadets. It still didn’t solve my crew slot problem. I just want to be able to warp them. That’s all. I don’t want to warp them for the slots, I want to warp them because I’m tired of doing them.
No cadet missions ever? You must not like getting honor, chrons, shuttle boosts, or hard-to-obtain items for a few minutes a day of tapping.
Yep. You read that right. I get enough honor from my fleet daily achievements and other things to get a 5* citation bi-monthly. STJ for the win! I’m currently sitting on 5,000 chrons. Got hundreds of 3* boosts. And hard to obtain items I just replicate.... so Yeah. I think I’m doing okay. Doesn’t change the fact that having all the cadet missions at 3* makes me want to warp the *Amazing Poutine* out of them.
5,000 chronitons in in-game messages or actually sitting in your inventory? Because if it’s in your inventory, you’re losing out on more than just the 375 per week from cadet missions - you’re losing 240 a day, every day. Assuming you expend chrons during Galaxy events, which happen every 1-3 weeks, that’s thousands of chrons you’re leaving on the table.
I’m super happy for you if you get what you need only from voyages but I couldn’t do what you do knowing on what I'm missing out on.
yep. Literally sitting on them. Got 10,000 more in messages. Actually have stockpiled common galaxy event items. So that’s not a concern. I’m definitely missing out on chrons, but so far for 6 months it hasn’t affected my ability to play the game at all. Been playing this game since it started. Still able to compete for top 1000 when I want to.
Or if you have 47 partially fused 5* crew you have virtually 0 slots to play with.
In my case I have 128 partially fused 5* crew and 6 partially fused 4* ( none of the 4* are in the premium portal)
How many 1*, 2* and 3* crew do you have in your crew quarters right now?
Ten 3* crew (2 of them are manning ships) and Ten 2* crew (zero 1* crew). I could go less than 10 but I want to be able to run any cadet leg to farm whatever faction item I need that day as opposed to just being able to run some cadet legs.
I have 32 5/5 crew and the remainder of my crew are 4/4. 375 total slots
Everything except compete that is, because you’re going to cripple yourself that way in faction events. As far as technically performing each game function goes yes you are correct that is possible.
Why can't you compete in faction events?
I think he meant you can't be competitive in faction events as opposed to can't compete. Of course everyone can compete. Being competitive (say top 1,000) is a different story.
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Honor + Honor from Airlocks, my 8hr average is probably in the 700-1000 average range. With 8hr voyages, I'd say I average 1.5 voyages per day, which would put my (guestimate) voyage average around 1200.
If you're only getting 300 on average from honor + airlocks...then..sorry?
5,000 chronitons in in-game messages or actually sitting in your inventory? Because if it’s in your inventory, you’re losing out on more than just the 375 per week from cadet missions - you’re losing 240 a day, every day. Assuming you expend chrons during Galaxy events, which happen every 1-3 weeks, that’s thousands of chrons you’re leaving on the table.
I’m super happy for you if you get what you need only from voyages but I couldn’t do what you do knowing on what I'm missing out on.
Yeah. I pretty much always go at least 8h now and even with really "bad" crew voyages like the one I have coming back now I get about 500 honor minimum. Current one was all greens from the dilemmas and only one random blue beyond that. So 222 straight honor, 4x greens for 200 honor and 1x blue for 100 honor.
75 slots is enough to do everything. You should have:
That's a total of 10-12 crew for commander arena and all cadet missions. You have space for 63-65 four and five star crew.
- 12 for arena
- approx 4 arena specialists (this could be zero though)
You have 47-49 slots left to play with.A person can survive on rice, beans and vitamins for months. It doesn't make it fun.
All these "You can get by with" responses to requests for additional crew slots incorrectly assume that we don't understand minimalist strategy of crew management. The sheer number of "Bottleneck/Who should I airlock?" posts in the Ready Room area indicate that people are all too aware of how to institute bare bones play. It's just not that fun over the long term.
I'm sorry if you feel this is a little blunt but...maybe bare bones spending results in bare bones play. DB has expenses.
In my case I have 128 partially fused 5* crew and 6 partially fused 4* ( none of the 4* are in the premium portal)
How many 1*, 2* and 3* crew do you have in your crew quarters right now?
You underestimate the contribution of VIP0 players to the quality of play in this game. Having a wide user base enhances the game experience of paying players. It behooves everyone, as well as DB, to maintain quality gameplay for all players. And I'm sure the ad revenue provides at least a little income for the company. It's pretty elitist to dismiss them as non-essential.
oh man...the claws come out pretty easy. I'm sorry if you feel so personally attacked here bro. However, it is not dismissing VIP0 players if I say DB has bills to pay. It is not dismissing VIP0 players if I say "you get what you pay for". What spending really comes down to is you pay to make the game easier. Like I said earlier, you can do EVERYTHING in this game with 75 crew.
Why can't you compete in faction events? You need on average 4 crew per mission. As a VIP0 player you get what, 3 shuttles? Lets say you used the dil you earned from achievements and collections and whatever else to get you the all important 4th shuttle. That is 16 crew you need for the faction event. With a few different missions needing slightly different crew, lets say for the sake of argument you need 20 crew (which I think is high). Only a couple of them are going to be special event crew. The rest are just gonna be what you have at the highest levels. Same crew in every event. So really the only crew that need to change from event to event are the special event crew. I believe you are capable of fitting them in. I recognize it won't be easy, but I believe you can make it happen with good inventory and time management.
also, remember you don't have to compete in EVERY event. Get your crew strait, get your boosts built up by skipping an event from time to time. Then go big on that one event you really like the crew for.
Yeah, but considering how few slots they theoretically have, they won’t stand a chance against the players that had the slots to accumulate 14 picard variants etc. I’m just saying yes technically they can play the event, but they’re in the ring with both arms tied behind their back. It’s gonna be a blood bath. I don’t consider that competing.
Just so I'm clear, your argument is we need more free crew slots so VIP0 can compete with VIP14?
All that said, If free crew slots is really the #1 most important addition to people then they should advocate for it. But I still think we'd all be better off if DB gave us other things instead. Like new content. Hey, who knows...maybe we'll all get what we want.
EDIT: I didn't see your most updated post. All of those would be welcome content changes. Fix voyages to be awesome again. Who doesn't like more beholds? And realistic honor for airlocking crew. These are the types of changes I'd like to see. That and actual success percentages. Maybe increase the 5* odds on packs (particularly worst chance packs)
yep. Literally sitting on them. Got 10,000 more in messages. Actually have stockpiled common galaxy event items. So that’s not a concern. I’m definitely missing out on chrons, but so far for 6 months it hasn’t affected my ability to play the game at all. Been playing this game since it started. Still able to compete for top 1000 when I want to.
Ten 3* crew (2 of them are manning ships) and Ten 2* crew (zero 1* crew). I could go less than 10 but I want to be able to run any cadet leg to farm whatever faction item I need that day as opposed to just being able to run some cadet legs.
I have 32 5/5 crew and the remainder of my crew are 4/4. 375 total slots
I think he meant you can't be competitive in faction events as opposed to can't compete. Of course everyone can compete. Being competitive (say top 1,000) is a different story.