I've no idea how the DB office is set up but I imagine Shan leaping up from her desk, running at high speed towards the programmer type people screaming 'take the pack down, take the pack DOWN!' before leaping over several desks and pressing some big red button that magically removes all the packs.
Shan doesn't work at the HQ, she has a home office.
Maybe she leaps over her couch in an effort to get to her phone......😞
Well, on the off chance that they institute a roll back to just before the pack dropped, thus reseting everyone's account, my game is now on hold....No point in doing anything if i'm going to lose it anyway
"Never teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig" Lazarus Long, Time Enough for Love, R.A. Heinlein
Now I will not say this ruined the game for everyone because I think we need to be fair and let DB come up with a solution. Lets give Shan and DB time to correct and then depending on result I feel the community has a right to file tickets and bring up concerns if people are worried.
I completely agree with this. While it can be fun to poke the bear (and I admit I've done that a little bit in this thread), until we know what they are going to do, there is no point in worrying.
Agreed. But, out of an abundance of caution, I'm not doing one single thing in-game, until we see how this shakes out. If there's a forced reset, we could lose all progress and resources spent. STT, itself, just went to cryo until we know how this goes down.
Yeah, the only thing in game that I've done is complete a dilemma and do some gauntlet.
The easiest solution I can think of, assuming their technology allows it, is just reset the server by 4 hours or so for every player in the game and then give out some sort of "moderate" sorry like a 10 pack special, 1000 dil, or something similar. It seems easier than breaking the game economy in general (even if it's marginal for most that got the offer or extreme in some cases from the 200k plus dil screen shots I've been seeing)
I've been playing, every day, since Day 1. I've spent money on this game; this is the first mobile app I've ever paid money to play. I'm not a huge whale, but I've spent more than I probably should have over the years. Point is I've worked hard to get where I am in the game and to have what I have. Lots of grinding, untold hours.
This Independence Day pack is not your first fiasco, not by a long shot. But this one stings. A lucky few were once again allowed to jump ahead and make huge gains, while the rest of us miss out. Whatever lame apology, with more promises to "do better" that comes this time, will need to have a truly fair compensation to salve this wound. Honestly I don't know how you can right this wrong.
I feel like both DB and the playerbase will have to take a hit on this. I can't imagine them taking back the illicit dilithium, and I also can't imagine them giving TOO much out to the players who missed out on Kasidy's smuggled goods. Really interested to see where they go with this. Is, say, 2000 dilithium and 15-30 packs too much compensation by DB's outlook? Would it even satiate players? Who knows.
Word going around with screenshots is some got 200k dilithium from this.
Now the game is sour beyond tolerable. If they don't make this FAIR they are enabling a rigged game. This definitely should get reported to apple at least as a violation of all disclosed drop rates.
I'm gonna go with the response being some variation of an apology email, no global compensation, and instructions to enter a ticket if you feel you were negatively impacted.
The easiest solution I can think of, assuming their technology allows it, is just reset the server by 4 hours or so for every player in the game and then give out some sort of "moderate" sorry like a 10 pack special, 1000 dil, or something similar. It seems easier than breaking the game economy in general (even if it's marginal for most that got the offer or extreme in some cases from the 200k plus dil screen shots I've been seeing)
I like this solution very much. It would be an honest one but only if it's implemented soon.
Now I will not say this ruined the game for everyone because I think we need to be fair and let DB come up with a solution. Lets give Shan and DB time to correct and then depending on result I feel the community has a right to file tickets and bring up concerns if people are worried.
I completely agree with this. While it can be fun to poke the bear (and I admit I've done that a little bit in this thread), until we know what they are going to do, there is no point in worrying.
Agreed. But, out of an abundance of caution, I'm not doing one single thing in-game, until we see how this shakes out. If there's a forced reset, we could lose all progress and resources spent. STT, itself, just went to cryo until we know how this goes down.
Yeah, the only thing in game that I've done is complete a dilemma and do some gauntlet.
Genuinely bothered about this. My voyage is back and I've a couple of thousand chrons saved to level crew. Been looking forward to it all day. I've never experienced a roll back and I'm not a gamer so I'm not sure what will happen
Now I will not say this ruined the game for everyone because I think we need to be fair and let DB come up with a solution. Lets give Shan and DB time to correct and then depending on result I feel the community has a right to file tickets and bring up concerns if people are worried.
I completely agree with this. While it can be fun to poke the bear (and I admit I've done that a little bit in this thread), until we know what they are going to do, there is no point in worrying.
Agreed. But, out of an abundance of caution, I'm not doing one single thing in-game, until we see how this shakes out. If there's a forced reset, we could lose all progress and resources spent. STT, itself, just went to cryo until we know how this goes down.
Yeah, the only thing in game that I've done is complete a dilemma and do some gauntlet.
Genuinely bothered about this. My voyage is back and I've a couple of thousand chrons saved to level crew. Been looking forward to it all day. I've never experienced a roll back and I'm not a gamer so I'm not sure what will happen
I'm gonna go with the response being some variation of an apology email, no global compensation, and instructions to enter a ticket if you feel you were negatively impacted.
This invalidates all disclosed drop rates. Fraud comes to mind (if they do nothing/lip service assurances). This is akin to a rigged mafia casino situation with DB complicit unless they do a rollback equivalent.
Fair playing field is out the window until then.
Yeah, I'm negatively impacted. I've potentially lost 200k free dilithium.
Now I will not say this ruined the game for everyone because I think we need to be fair and let DB come up with a solution. Lets give Shan and DB time to correct and then depending on result I feel the community has a right to file tickets and bring up concerns if people are worried.
I completely agree with this. While it can be fun to poke the bear (and I admit I've done that a little bit in this thread), until we know what they are going to do, there is no point in worrying.
Agreed. But, out of an abundance of caution, I'm not doing one single thing in-game, until we see how this shakes out. If there's a forced reset, we could lose all progress and resources spent. STT, itself, just went to cryo until we know how this goes down.
Yeah, the only thing in game that I've done is complete a dilemma and do some gauntlet.
Genuinely bothered about this. My voyage is back and I've a couple of thousand chrons saved to level crew. Been looking forward to it all day. I've never experienced a roll back and I'm not a gamer so I'm not sure what will happen
Your chrons should be safe in case of rollback.
So I don't need to screenshot every single aspect of my game.....
Unless they take periodic snapshots of the game servers and the associated databases, I'm not sure how they would roll anything back. You might be able to identify all the database transactions and roll those back.
I'm gonna go with the response being some variation of an apology email, no global compensation, and instructions to enter a ticket if you feel you were negatively impacted.
This invalidates all disclosed drop rates. Fraud comes to mind. This is a rigged mafia casino situation with DB complicit unless they do a rollback equivalent.
Fair playing field is out the window until then.
Yeah, I'm negatively impacted.
We all are negatively impacted by this issue, including DB. I guess they are still value their reputation. I hope they do...
Unless they take periodic snapshots of the game servers and the associated databases, I'm not sure how they would roll anything back.
This exactly.... They would need to have backups or 'snapshots' taken at pretty routine intervals to be able to accomplish this... maybe they do, it's hard to say... but it's still a crapshoot if they roll back because how do you compensate the hours of time that people may have lost playing just to have it un-done.... *shrug* I don't know
Walk back anything people who took advantage of the bug got, even if they transformed it into something other than dil and merits. Refund any money they spent on that portal.
That is the nicer way to resolve this. The other alternative is mass bans, or mass quitting.
Unless they take periodic snapshots of the game servers and the associated databases, I'm not sure how they would roll anything back. You might be able to identify all the database transactions and roll those back.
Heck, you'd think that even freeware server maintenance software would include this feature, but who knows. There has to be some sort of failsafe for catastrophic server failure, fire, terroristic threats based on no admiral Patrick card, or whatever.
It should be interesting to see how it plays out, and how quickly
Now I will not say this ruined the game for everyone because I think we need to be fair and let DB come up with a solution. Lets give Shan and DB time to correct and then depending on result I feel the community has a right to file tickets and bring up concerns if people are worried.
I completely agree with this. While it can be fun to poke the bear (and I admit I've done that a little bit in this thread), until we know what they are going to do, there is no point in worrying.
Agreed. But, out of an abundance of caution, I'm not doing one single thing in-game, until we see how this shakes out. If there's a forced reset, we could lose all progress and resources spent. STT, itself, just went to cryo until we know how this goes down.
Yeah, the only thing in game that I've done is complete a dilemma and do some gauntlet.
Genuinely bothered about this. My voyage is back and I've a couple of thousand chrons saved to level crew. Been looking forward to it all day. I've never experienced a roll back and I'm not a gamer so I'm not sure what will happen
Your chrons should be safe in case of rollback.
So I don't need to screenshot every single aspect of my game.....
I meant if you were talking about long voyage's chrons than huge majority of them should be safe. Rollback would simply undo last part of your voyage and then you could do this last part one more time. But knowing DB you would be wise to take all the screenshots you can.
I'm gonna go with the response being some variation of an apology email, no global compensation, and instructions to enter a ticket if you feel you were negatively impacted.
This invalidates all disclosed drop rates. Fraud comes to mind. This is a rigged mafia casino situation with DB complicit unless they do a rollback equivalent.
Fair playing field is out the window until then.
Yeah, I'm negatively impacted.
We all are negatively impacted by this issue, including DB. I guess they are still value their reputation. I hope they do...
The easiest solution I can think of, assuming their technology allows it, is just reset the server by 4 hours or so for every player in the game and then give out some sort of "moderate" sorry like a 10 pack special, 1000 dil, or something similar. It seems easier than breaking the game economy in general (even if it's marginal for most that got the offer or extreme in some cases from the 200k plus dil screen shots I've been seeing)
That wouldn’t work at all. That would cause a whole lot more problems. Imagine if you’re someone who doesn’t come on the forums and have no idea of that bug even existed. You purchase and spend dilithium and get several beholds and select crew that you’ve wanted for a long time. Certainly they do a reset and those crew are gone. That would be a nightmare to deal with.
The easiest solution I can think of, assuming their technology allows it, is just reset the server by 4 hours or so for every player in the game and then give out some sort of "moderate" sorry like a 10 pack special, 1000 dil, or something similar. It seems easier than breaking the game economy in general (even if it's marginal for most that got the offer or extreme in some cases from the 200k plus dil screen shots I've been seeing)
I like this solution very much. It would be an honest one but only if it's implemented soon.
Just got a new special offer for today... Yah I'm gonna go ahead and hold on that for now...
Hahaha....you mean to say you're not interested in $9.99 worth of crons and not enough honor to part Stargazer's toupee, amidst the largest box of coat hangers in DB history? Good for them for being greedy til the end.😂😂
Unless they take periodic snapshots of the game servers and the associated databases, I'm not sure how they would roll anything back.
This exactly.... They would need to have backups or 'snapshots' taken at pretty routine intervals to be able to accomplish this... maybe they do, it's hard to say... but it's still a crapshoot if they roll back because how do you compensate the hours of time that people may have lost playing just to have it un-done.... *shrug* I don't know
I'm sorry but making such backups is one of the most important rules of any online business. I would be very disappointed if DB broken this rule.
Unless they take periodic snapshots of the game servers and the associated databases, I'm not sure how they would roll anything back.
This exactly.... They would need to have backups or 'snapshots' taken at pretty routine intervals to be able to accomplish this... maybe they do, it's hard to say... but it's still a crapshoot if they roll back because how do you compensate the hours of time that people may have lost playing just to have it un-done.... *shrug* I don't know
I'm sorry but making such backups is one of the most important rules of any online business. I would be very disappointed if DB broken this rule.
I'd argue daily backups are the 'standard'. Incremental backups on an hourly or "anytime" basis would be more rare... just depends on the infrastructure
I repeat, no one has been negatively impacted by this issue yet.
We don’t know what the resolution will be. Most likely they will just take everything back and nobody is hurt and nobody benefits. If that is what they do then it’s a moot point.
The sky is not falling. Let’s wait till we see what they are going to do before we start calling the lynch mob
The easiest solution I can think of, assuming their technology allows it, is just reset the server by 4 hours or so for every player in the game and then give out some sort of "moderate" sorry like a 10 pack special, 1000 dil, or something similar. It seems easier than breaking the game economy in general (even if it's marginal for most that got the offer or extreme in some cases from the 200k plus dil screen shots I've been seeing)
That wouldn’t work at all. That would cause a whole lot more problems. Imagine if you’re someone who doesn’t come on the forums and have no idea of that bug even existed. You purchase and spend dilithium and get several beholds and select crew that you’ve wanted for a long time. Certainly they do a reset and those crew are gone. That would be a nightmare to deal with.
That's why it should be implemented soon, without any further delay.
Comments
Maybe she leaps over her couch in an effort to get to her phone......😞
Check out our website to find out more:
https://wiki.tenforwardloungers.com/
Yeah, the only thing in game that I've done is complete a dilemma and do some gauntlet.
I've been playing, every day, since Day 1. I've spent money on this game; this is the first mobile app I've ever paid money to play. I'm not a huge whale, but I've spent more than I probably should have over the years. Point is I've worked hard to get where I am in the game and to have what I have. Lots of grinding, untold hours.
This Independence Day pack is not your first fiasco, not by a long shot. But this one stings. A lucky few were once again allowed to jump ahead and make huge gains, while the rest of us miss out. Whatever lame apology, with more promises to "do better" that comes this time, will need to have a truly fair compensation to salve this wound. Honestly I don't know how you can right this wrong.
Word going around with screenshots is some got 200k dilithium from this.
Now the game is sour beyond tolerable. If they don't make this FAIR they are enabling a rigged game. This definitely should get reported to apple at least as a violation of all disclosed drop rates.
I like this solution very much. It would be an honest one but only if it's implemented soon.
Genuinely bothered about this. My voyage is back and I've a couple of thousand chrons saved to level crew. Been looking forward to it all day. I've never experienced a roll back and I'm not a gamer so I'm not sure what will happen
Check out our website to find out more:
https://wiki.tenforwardloungers.com/
Your chrons should be safe in case of rollback.
This invalidates all disclosed drop rates. Fraud comes to mind (if they do nothing/lip service assurances). This is akin to a rigged mafia casino situation with DB complicit unless they do a rollback equivalent.
Fair playing field is out the window until then.
Yeah, I'm negatively impacted. I've potentially lost 200k free dilithium.
So I don't need to screenshot every single aspect of my game.....
Check out our website to find out more:
https://wiki.tenforwardloungers.com/
We all are negatively impacted by this issue, including DB. I guess they are still value their reputation. I hope they do...
This exactly.... They would need to have backups or 'snapshots' taken at pretty routine intervals to be able to accomplish this... maybe they do, it's hard to say... but it's still a crapshoot if they roll back because how do you compensate the hours of time that people may have lost playing just to have it un-done.... *shrug* I don't know
That is the nicer way to resolve this. The other alternative is mass bans, or mass quitting.
Heck, you'd think that even freeware server maintenance software would include this feature, but who knows. There has to be some sort of failsafe for catastrophic server failure, fire, terroristic threats based on no admiral Patrick card, or whatever.
It should be interesting to see how it plays out, and how quickly
Haha, seriously? It didn't occur to them to suspend offers for the time being?
Oh, wait, so did I. C'mon DB. Get it together.
I meant if you were talking about long voyage's chrons than huge majority of them should be safe. Rollback would simply undo last part of your voyage and then you could do this last part one more time. But knowing DB you would be wise to take all the screenshots you can.
Reputation? DB?? ROTF LMAO
That wouldn’t work at all. That would cause a whole lot more problems. Imagine if you’re someone who doesn’t come on the forums and have no idea of that bug even existed. You purchase and spend dilithium and get several beholds and select crew that you’ve wanted for a long time. Certainly they do a reset and those crew are gone. That would be a nightmare to deal with.
I favor this solution very much, too
Hahaha....you mean to say you're not interested in $9.99 worth of crons and not enough honor to part Stargazer's toupee, amidst the largest box of coat hangers in DB history? Good for them for being greedy til the end.😂😂
I'm sorry but making such backups is one of the most important rules of any online business. I would be very disappointed if DB broken this rule.
and hand out a 6500 dil free pull to all players.
Created a kingdom. Reached for the wisdom. Failed in becoming a god.
I'd argue daily backups are the 'standard'. Incremental backups on an hourly or "anytime" basis would be more rare... just depends on the infrastructure
No one.
I repeat, no one has been negatively impacted by this issue yet.
We don’t know what the resolution will be. Most likely they will just take everything back and nobody is hurt and nobody benefits. If that is what they do then it’s a moot point.
The sky is not falling. Let’s wait till we see what they are going to do before we start calling the lynch mob
That's why it should be implemented soon, without any further delay.