Well that's a shame about the stats - not that I imagine I'd ever be getting 1001 past one star anyway - but even knowing that, I'm kind of pleased to have this as a long-term project to work on. Only had enough dilithium for a single pull (getting Number One took a lot, and then trying - unsuccessfully - for either Pale Moonlight Sisko or EV Seven cleaned me out) but I got one of them, so it's a start.
Just out of curiosity, is there anyone out there with the funds to be a Uber Whale for science, and see if you can combine two 1001s to get a four-in-one six-star 11001001? I mean I know all the reasons that's probably not in the game, but if I were running things it would totally be in the game.
In my quest to get the legendaries i pulled 12 times on x10.
I stopped because on the 12th I got Wrathful Khan which immortalized him.
So out of the 12 I got one Emotion Chip Data, Klingon Janeway (Begold shown earlier), and one Wrathful Khan.
I then used 3 super rare citations to get a FF Zero one and One Zero.
I merged them with their counterpart to create two 1001.
Now I have
ENG 619 (126-272)
SCI 613 (120-280)
I could have had just the two superrares FFFE for
ENG 765 (118-255)
SCI 541 (109-256)
ENG 566 (115-248)
SCI 740 (112-263)
Edit2: I would also still have two superrare citations.
I almost feel like I turned them into Rare crew not Legendary.
Edit: Of course because not FF. But still disappointing.
Edit2: looking at this again I am willing to bet at 3FFE they would still be lower then Zero One and One Zero on each of their max stat.
I know Paladin already posted details about how terribad 1001 is for Voyages, but I figured out what script to update to get new crew accruing to the stat charts on the wiki again earlier today and thought this would be a good first use of it.
Unless I missed a line while scrolling, 1001 is only the 38th best Engineer by base stat.
It gets worse when you bring average proficiency in, and they drop to 45th.
I know Paladin already posted details about how terribad 1001 is for Voyages, but I figured out what script to update to get new crew accruing to the stat charts on the wiki again earlier today and thought this would be a good first use of it.
Unless I missed a line while scrolling, 1001 is only the 38th best Engineer by base stat.
It gets worse when you bring average proficiency in, and they drop to 45th.
It’s so bad. I was looking at my ENG crew, which is my weakest, and the 5/5 base is only 50ish points better than my 4/4 Niners Rom. For all the effort it’d take to make it 5/5, truly pathetic.
Well that's a shame about the stats - not that I imagine I'd ever be getting 1001 past one star anyway - but even knowing that, I'm kind of pleased to have this as a long-term project to work on. Only had enough dilithium for a single pull (getting Number One took a lot, and then trying - unsuccessfully - for either Pale Moonlight Sisko or EV Seven cleaned me out) but I got one of them, so it's a start.
Just out of curiosity, is there anyone out there with the funds to be a Uber Whale for science, and see if you can combine two 1001s to get a four-in-one six-star 11001001? I mean I know all the reasons that's probably not in the game, but if I were running things it would totally be in the game.
DB has said multiple times there will never be a six star crew. It would mess up the game if they did. Better to just slowly increase stats on new legendaries.
Yah they won't comment because they know nothing will make it better
Only one thing can, a third skill.
I had that thought earlier and decided that a third skill doesn’t really make sense. They were not exactly diplomatic, they look like they wouldn’t even be able to take a Cub Scout in a fistfight, they collapsed in a pile halfway through the episode, and aren’t very commanding. Maybe a tertiary COM skill, though I think that would be a stretch. Two skills makes sense...if those skills aren’t patently awful.
Yah they won't comment because they know nothing will make it better
Only one thing can, a third skill.
I had that thought earlier and decided that a third skill doesn’t really make sense. They were not exactly diplomatic, they look like they wouldn’t even be able to take a Cub Scout in a fistfight, they collapsed in a pile halfway through the episode, and aren’t very commanding. Maybe a tertiary COM skill, though I think that would be a stretch. Two skills makes sense...if those skills aren’t patently awful.
I was thinking COM myself at FFFE 350 with a similar proficiency as the other skills. Not much improvement but they would no longer be terrible for a legendary.
Yah they won't comment because they know nothing will make it better
Only one thing can, a third skill.
I had that thought earlier and decided that a third skill doesn’t really make sense. They were not exactly diplomatic, they look like they wouldn’t even be able to take a Cub Scout in a fistfight, they collapsed in a pile halfway through the episode, and aren’t very commanding. Maybe a tertiary COM skill, though I think that would be a stretch. Two skills makes sense...if those skills aren’t patently awful.
I was thinking COM myself at FFFE 350 with a similar proficiency as the other skills. Not much improvement but they would no longer be terrible for a legendary.
That would lessen the sting but they would still be terrible.
Bynars stole the Enterprise. That speaks to either Security in stealing a ship or Diplomacy in the sneakiness of their theft. You could also make the argument for Diplomacy in that they programmed Minuet to be diplomatic and distract Riker.
DB has said multiple times there will never be a six star crew.
I know how you get around that, "it's not six star, it's 110-star". Like you merge the two 5* together and they become a 1/3 blue, and if you use one citation to fill in the second star but leave the third one unused (i.e/ "zero") they get like 1700 base Eng/Sci.
I shouldn't make games, it'd be five minutes of content and the rest is convoluted in-jokes.
Hi.
Those stats piss me off.
That was *a lot* of money (or honor) to get those cards and...for 2016 stats?
I'm not kidding when I say this. I have been walking the line of quitting for a while. This may have finally done it.
I would’ve said the same thing if I hadn’t already made that decision on Monday. I will probably login again this weekend to share crew with my squadron since it’s a faction event but then I’m going to stop and take a long break. I’ll stay on the fleet Line channel to chat and probably stay on the forum for a little while. Maybe after I’m away for a while I’ll feel the urge to try again but not holding my breath. Just burnt and burned out.
One thing I will say about this game is it was a huge life lesson for me
Well that's a shame about the stats - not that I imagine I'd ever be getting 1001 past one star anyway - but even knowing that, I'm kind of pleased to have this as a long-term project to work on. Only had enough dilithium for a single pull (getting Number One took a lot, and then trying - unsuccessfully - for either Pale Moonlight Sisko or EV Seven cleaned me out) but I got one of them, so it's a start.
Just out of curiosity, is there anyone out there with the funds to be a Uber Whale for science, and see if you can combine two 1001s to get a four-in-one six-star 11001001? I mean I know all the reasons that's probably not in the game, but if I were running things it would totally be in the game.
I thought this myself, is this a "yeah Easter Egg in your face" being a "okay losers, guess what, there is a new Easter Egg, *megalomaniacal laughter*"?
DB has said multiple times there will never be a six star crew.
I know how you get around that, "it's not six star, it's 110-star". Like you merge the two 5* together and they become a 1/3 blue, and if you use one citation to fill in the second star but leave the third one unused (i.e/ "zero") they get like 1700 base Eng/Sci.
I shouldn't make games, it'd be five minutes of content and the rest is convoluted in-jokes.
Or you could make the greatest game ever for those of us who are funky sense of humour.
Why was Vicki not expelled from Greendale after she literally stabbed Pierce in the face with a pencil?!?!?
I know Paladin already posted details about how terribad 1001 is for Voyages, but I figured out what script to update to get new crew accruing to the stat charts on the wiki again earlier today and thought this would be a good first use of it.
Unless I missed a line while scrolling, 1001 is only the 38th best Engineer by base stat.
It gets worse when you bring average proficiency in, and they drop to 45th.
Level 100 spreadsheet has those ranks as t-40th and t-46th so even worse. SCI is 42nd as well. What a poor joke this was.
You know what, all things considered, I'm pretty happy with the Bynars. This is such a big middle finger to the players that I've finally asked a friend to put a password on my "in-app purchases" option so I won't be tempted to spend any money anymore. Thanks, DB! Should be fun to be FTP from now on.
You know what, all things considered, I'm pretty happy with the Bynars. This is such a big middle finger to the players that I've finally asked a friend to put a password on my "in-app purchases" option so I won't be tempted to spend any money anymore. Thanks, DB! Should be fun to be FTP from now on.
As it happens I also deleted my credit card from my account. It's a decision I'd been coming to gradually but yesterday sealed the deal.
@Shan I know tagging a moderator doesn't do much, but I figured it's worth trying.
The Bynars are a really cool idea, and i'm glad the easter egg was added to the game.
However, there really needs to be a second look taken at their stats. If you could talk to someone about either giving them a good ship special ability (like some instant damage, large increase to crit bonus, etc) since they have no special ability, or maybe changing the build so that it adds another few hundred points to each base?
Just to make it so the card is worth the effort, since as is, it's really just a collector's item with no real use, and that takes a lot of the fun out of it for people.
It's not the kind of thing we can look forward to the same way when the work and money required is so much higher than the reward.
Everyone, I am sorry that you feel let down by this easter egg
Not all crew can have the best stats, nevertheless I have brought up your disappointment to the team.
Everyone, I am sorry that you feel let down by this easter egg
Not all crew can have the best stats, nevertheless I have brought up your disappointment to the team.
The "not all crew can have the best stats" is 100% understandable for most cards, but this (requiring more than 30 stars of the purple cards) is next level insane for a 2 skill both skills under 1k
Everyone, I am sorry that you feel let down by this easter egg
Not all crew can have the best stats, nevertheless I have brought up your disappointment to the team.
I don't think we were looking for the best stats, but that legendary has the worst stats, it's 4* level. You are asking a lot for a player to build up both 4* and then to merge, and then to FE the 5*. The stats do not merit the investment at all.
Thank you for replying and bringing it up with your team.
Everyone, I am sorry that you feel let down by this easter egg
Not all crew can have the best stats, nevertheless I have brought up your disappointment to the team.
Thx Shan. The more difficult to get crew the better the stats should be.
Everyone, I am sorry that you feel let down by this easter egg
Not all crew can have the best stats, nevertheless I have brought up your disappointment to the team.
Everyone, I am sorry that you feel let down by this easter egg
Not all crew can have the best stats, nevertheless I have brought up your disappointment to the team.
Thank you for responding, we do appreciate you and all your hard work. You’re in an unenviable position as the go between.
Everyone, I am sorry that you feel let down by this easter egg
Not all crew can have the best stats, nevertheless I have brought up your disappointment to the team.
When people see something special, they expect it to be special.
LOL is the first legendary in game to be created from two super-rares, it is a special card. To give this special card appalling stats is very poor marketing, it is not knowing your player base.
Just make sure you don't do the same with cheesecake Seven. Give her three stats on par with Kol, but some unusual combination like med/sci/tech and a decent ship ability (evasion seems apt)
The player base will declare shenanigans if this is repeated with Seven.
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Yah they won't comment because they know nothing will make it better
Only one thing can, a third skill.
Just out of curiosity, is there anyone out there with the funds to be a Uber Whale for science, and see if you can combine two 1001s to get a four-in-one six-star 11001001? I mean I know all the reasons that's probably not in the game, but if I were running things it would totally be in the game.
I stopped because on the 12th I got Wrathful Khan which immortalized him.
So out of the 12 I got one Emotion Chip Data, Klingon Janeway (Begold shown earlier), and one Wrathful Khan.
I then used 3 super rare citations to get a FF Zero one and One Zero.
I merged them with their counterpart to create two 1001.
Now I have
ENG 619 (126-272)
SCI 613 (120-280)
I could have had just the two superrares FFFE for
ENG 765 (118-255)
SCI 541 (109-256)
ENG 566 (115-248)
SCI 740 (112-263)
Edit2: I would also still have two superrare citations.
I almost feel like I turned them into Rare crew not Legendary.
Edit: Of course because not FF. But still disappointing.
Edit2: looking at this again I am willing to bet at 3FFE they would still be lower then Zero One and One Zero on each of their max stat.
Unless I missed a line while scrolling, 1001 is only the 38th best Engineer by base stat.
It gets worse when you bring average proficiency in, and they drop to 45th.
It’s so bad. I was looking at my ENG crew, which is my weakest, and the 5/5 base is only 50ish points better than my 4/4 Niners Rom. For all the effort it’d take to make it 5/5, truly pathetic.
DB has said multiple times there will never be a six star crew. It would mess up the game if they did. Better to just slowly increase stats on new legendaries.
I had that thought earlier and decided that a third skill doesn’t really make sense. They were not exactly diplomatic, they look like they wouldn’t even be able to take a Cub Scout in a fistfight, they collapsed in a pile halfway through the episode, and aren’t very commanding. Maybe a tertiary COM skill, though I think that would be a stretch. Two skills makes sense...if those skills aren’t patently awful.
I was thinking COM myself at FFFE 350 with a similar proficiency as the other skills. Not much improvement but they would no longer be terrible for a legendary.
That would lessen the sting but they would still be terrible.
I know how you get around that, "it's not six star, it's 110-star". Like you merge the two 5* together and they become a 1/3 blue, and if you use one citation to fill in the second star but leave the third one unused (i.e/ "zero") they get like 1700 base Eng/Sci.
I shouldn't make games, it'd be five minutes of content and the rest is convoluted in-jokes.
I would’ve said the same thing if I hadn’t already made that decision on Monday. I will probably login again this weekend to share crew with my squadron since it’s a faction event but then I’m going to stop and take a long break. I’ll stay on the fleet Line channel to chat and probably stay on the forum for a little while. Maybe after I’m away for a while I’ll feel the urge to try again but not holding my breath. Just burnt and burned out.
One thing I will say about this game is it was a huge life lesson for me
I thought this myself, is this a "yeah Easter Egg in your face" being a "okay losers, guess what, there is a new Easter Egg, *megalomaniacal laughter*"?
I pray for the word, if I am right.
Or you could make the greatest game ever for those of us who are funky sense of humour.
Level 100 spreadsheet has those ranks as t-40th and t-46th so even worse. SCI is 42nd as well. What a poor joke this was.
01001001 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101001 01101110 01101011 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01101101 01101001 01100111 01101000 01110100 00100000 01110111 01100001 01101110 01110100 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01110010 01100101 01110000 01101000 01110010 01100001 01110011 01100101 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100001 01110100
I bought 6 packs before I checked the stats... but...
I got 4 one zeros and 1 zero ones..
And
A Kahn. Kahn was the first gold I ever got on the first day I played 3 years ago and has been my avatar ever since.
Plus a second gold for mintarkan Riker
Plus a second gold for Satan's robot
Plus my first gold The Keeper
So even with the dire Bynar stats I'm quite happy with that haul.
As it happens I also deleted my credit card from my account. It's a decision I'd been coming to gradually but yesterday sealed the deal.
The Bynars are a really cool idea, and i'm glad the easter egg was added to the game.
However, there really needs to be a second look taken at their stats. If you could talk to someone about either giving them a good ship special ability (like some instant damage, large increase to crit bonus, etc) since they have no special ability, or maybe changing the build so that it adds another few hundred points to each base?
Just to make it so the card is worth the effort, since as is, it's really just a collector's item with no real use, and that takes a lot of the fun out of it for people.
It's not the kind of thing we can look forward to the same way when the work and money required is so much higher than the reward.
Not all crew can have the best stats, nevertheless I have brought up your disappointment to the team.
The "not all crew can have the best stats" is 100% understandable for most cards, but this (requiring more than 30 stars of the purple cards) is next level insane for a 2 skill both skills under 1k
I don't think we were looking for the best stats, but that legendary has the worst stats, it's 4* level. You are asking a lot for a player to build up both 4* and then to merge, and then to FE the 5*. The stats do not merit the investment at all.
Thank you for replying and bringing it up with your team.
Thx Shan. The more difficult to get crew the better the stats should be.
Thank you for responding.
Thank you for responding, we do appreciate you and all your hard work. You’re in an unenviable position as the go between.
When people see something special, they expect it to be special.
LOL is the first legendary in game to be created from two super-rares, it is a special card. To give this special card appalling stats is very poor marketing, it is not knowing your player base.
Just make sure you don't do the same with cheesecake Seven. Give her three stats on par with Kol, but some unusual combination like med/sci/tech and a decent ship ability (evasion seems apt)
The player base will declare shenanigans if this is repeated with Seven.