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  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    Shan wrote: »
    Everyone, I am sorry that you feel let down by this easter egg :(
    Not all crew can have the best stats, nevertheless I have brought up your disappointment to the team.

    Thanx for the reply, Shan. Also, we know you are just the messenger when there is icky news!!!

    These three look like whoever did the Skills Stats thought they were doing a 3*/3*>4* Fusion, instead of a 4*/4*>5* Fusion. Maybe because previous were the 3*/3*>4*. So they had the wrong reference to go by.

    General comment on the Crew:

    For me, I'll be happy to keep Zero One and Level him. Can't afford the investment it would take to get basically worse Stats!!!
    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
  • Shan wrote: »
    Everyone, I am sorry that you feel let down by this easter egg :(
    Not all crew can have the best stats, nevertheless I have brought up your disappointment to the team.
    Folks here realize that new crew coming into the game will not constantly be the new best shiny. These stats are genuinely awful, and most importantly were not made available to people before they spent money and time on the process. Thank you for letting the team know that customers feel ripped off.

    If the decision is made to adjust the stats of the paired Bynars, I would strongly suggest leaving the portal up for longer, and also suggest instructing CS to help people who have the Bynars in some combination get to the configuration they are satisfied with.

  • S31S31 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How to make Cheesecake Seven worthwhile?

    Seven in Brown - super rare
    Sci 550 (300-500)
    Eng 910 (300-500
    Med 350 (200-300)

    THE DOCTOR - super rare
    Sci 550 (300-500)
    Eng 350 (200-300)
    Med 910 (300-500)

    Cheesecake Seven - legendary

    Sci 1100 (400-700)
    ENG 1000 (400-700)
    MED 1000 (400-700)

  • (HGH)Apollo(HGH)Apollo ✭✭✭✭✭
    This could have easily been avoided by putting up the legendary stats when the pack first went up. The whales probably still would have spent the money and bought the packs without having any of the anger and the feeling of being cheated by having hidden poor stats.
    Let’s fly!
  • ChaoticDNAChaoticDNA ✭✭✭
    edited February 2019
    Shan wrote: »
    Everyone, I am sorry that you feel let down by this easter egg :(
    Not all crew can have the best stats, nevertheless I have brought up your disappointment to the team.

    Sorry, can't resist making the obvious joke about them being something brown and delivered by the Easter Bunny, but are more round shaped than egg shaped.

    Stats like this are 3* and 4* not 4* and 5*. People love the idea, but I suspect someone over-valued the emotional/pokemon aspect and under-valued the stats.

    EDIT: Note - just to be clear the only way I'd ever level these is by luck of the draw from packs, never by intent.
    Captain Bubble Bobble
  • *Nomad* {PoF}*Nomad* {PoF} ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe change them into the......Dastardly Daltons!

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    Founding ADM - PoF family of fleets (POF, POF2 & POF3) - Dear TP: Non sequitur. Your facts are uncoordinated.
  • Dirk GundersonDirk Gunderson ✭✭✭✭✭
    S31 wrote: »
    How to make Cheesecake Seven worthwhile?

    Seven in Brown - super rare
    Sci 550 (300-500)
    Eng 910 (300-500
    Med 350 (200-300)

    THE DOCTOR - super rare
    Sci 550 (300-500)
    Eng 350 (200-300)
    Med 910 (300-500)

    Cheesecake Seven - legendary

    Sci 1100 (400-700)
    ENG 1000 (400-700)
    MED 1000 (400-700)

    I get where you’re coming from here but those look like two 5* crew fused into a 6* and I don’t think that is something we would look forward to. Assuming new crew would be used, I would think it would make sense like this:

    Seven in Brown - 4*

    ENG: 890+(160-485)
    SCI: 675+(225-535)
    DIP: 150+(80-170)

    Traits: Human, Borg, Federation, Civilian, Astrophysicist

    Romantic Doctor - 4*

    MED: 925+(210-390)
    COM: 640+(75-200)
    DIP: 410+(100-240)

    Traits: Hologram, Federation, Starfleet, Physician, Romantic, Musician

    Cheesecake Doctor Seven - 5*

    MED: 1210+(110-310)
    ENG: 905+(290-750)
    SCI: 500+(265-480)

    Traits: Hologram, Human, Borg, Federation, Starfleet, Musician, Desperate, Undercover Operative, Romantic
  • Captain_WhoCaptain_Who ✭✭✭✭✭
    S31 wrote: »
    How to make Cheesecake Seven worthwhile?

    Seven in Brown - super rare
    Sci 550 (300-500)
    Eng 910 (300-500
    Med 350 (200-300)

    THE DOCTOR - super rare
    Sci 550 (300-500)
    Eng 350 (200-300)
    Med 910 (300-500)

    Cheesecake Seven - legendary

    Sci 1100 (400-700)
    ENG 1000 (400-700)
    MED 1000 (400-700)

    I get where you’re coming from here but those look like two 5* crew fused into a 6* and I don’t think that is something we would look forward to. Assuming new crew would be used, I would think it would make sense like this:

    Seven in Brown - 4*

    ENG: 890+(160-485)
    SCI: 675+(225-535)
    DIP: 150+(80-170)

    Traits: Human, Borg, Federation, Civilian, Astrophysicist

    Romantic Doctor - 4*

    MED: 925+(210-390)
    COM: 640+(75-200)
    DIP: 410+(100-240)

    Traits: Hologram, Federation, Starfleet, Physician, Romantic, Musician

    Cheesecake Doctor Seven - 5*

    MED: 1210+(110-310)
    ENG: 905+(290-750)
    SCI: 500+(265-480)

    Traits: Hologram, Human, Borg, Federation, Starfleet, Musician, Desperate, Undercover Operative, Romantic

    That actually seems like a pretty good solution to me. Neither card is terrible, they're all in line with the characters and their existing cards. The fused card is actually desirable, and still inline with both characters and existing cards.
    Everything I would want to collect. Doing this right, DB couldn't even get in their own way to make a good chunk of change out of this, and it would be an ongoing quest to keep a small stream of income coming as new players join.
    This flop of a Binar card is NOT going to have any lasting income or value.

    I hope somebody at DB is listening to this, and not pulling another BinarGate
  • Torias327Torias327 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I find it rather curious the response from DB came after the posts stating people’s spending was being locked by 3rd parties and that highly respected and well known players may quit (Althea and Frank, I would miss both of your posts on this forum greatly, FWIW), not during the previous 2 days of angst over the offensive stats. Consider what you are actually thanking Shan for, yet another non-answer to pages and pages of near unanimous player feelings. Just like the 400,000VP thread, they have again told us enough people are willing to keep spending the money, so Caveat Emptor it is. And to be clear, I am not shooting the messenger, but dissecting the message. The same one we get the vast majority of the time.

    I got the cards in the off chance they get hot fixed, but I highly doubt it will happen after Polywater. Everyone that skipped them would have a total meltdown.
  • IronagedaveIronagedave ✭✭✭✭✭
    I doubt buffing a card is going to drum up the pitch forks they were happy to buff Locutus' Dip proficiency didn't hear much of a peep on that one as I recall.

    1500 in each skill for voyages would be a suitable fix IMO doesn't make them OP just strong enough to be of some use on a SCI ENG voyage and doesn't put them way ahead of the other 2 skill legendary cards either.
    [was on Sabbatical/Hiatus] Currently a trialist at Galaxy SquadronSTAY SAFE and KBO
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    This just now on Twitter. Shameless!
  • YateballYateball ✭✭✭✭✭
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    This just now on Twitter. Shameless!

    Yikes
  • Princess TristaPrincess Trista ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2019
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    This just now on Twitter. Shameless!

    I'm not concerned because they will have to 'un-nerf' them.

  • I'm not concerned because they will have to 'un-nerf' them.

    How do you know?
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not concerned because they will have to 'un-nerf' them.

    How do you know?

    Just take the "response" to the other thread and change it to "Since people still bought Packs, we have no intention of changing anything."
    "The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself."
  • Captain_WhoCaptain_Who ✭✭✭✭✭
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    This just now on Twitter. Shameless!

    I'm not concerned because they will have to 'un-nerf' them.

    Nope. They won't de-nerf them. They've never de-nerfed anybody. They're not starting now.

    5* Scotty.

    You have 2 4* cards that read like 3*, and a crappy 5* card that reads like a 4*.
    Just forget this mess ever happened, and never invest if DB doesn't provide the stats.
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    This just now on Twitter. Shameless!

    I'm not concerned because they will have to 'un-nerf' them.

    Nope. They won't de-nerf them. They've never de-nerfed anybody. They're not starting now.

    5* Scotty.

    You have 2 4* cards that read like 3*, and a crappy 5* card that reads like a 4*.
    Just forget this mess ever happened, and never invest if DB doesn't provide the stats.

    I agree 100% with Captain Who.
  • robownage wrote: »
    In all fairness, the actual 4* read as legit 4*. Not great ones, but their stats are in the right range.
    The problem is absolutely the 5*. I honestly would sooner have seen them merge to make a really great other 4* with those stats.

    I keep seeing that assertion, but I don't see how they could legitimately be called 4* stats. No two-skill 4* has ever had both bases above 800, much less 900. They're a really, really bad 5*, almost certainly the worst. But they're not quite that bad.
  • Dirk GundersonDirk Gunderson ✭✭✭✭✭
    robownage wrote: »
    In all fairness, the actual 4* read as legit 4*. Not great ones, but their stats are in the right range.
    The problem is absolutely the 5*. I honestly would sooner have seen them merge to make a really great other 4* with those stats.

    I keep seeing that assertion, but I don't see how they could legitimately be called 4* stats. No two-skill 4* has ever had both bases above 800, much less 900. They're a really, really bad 5*, almost certainly the worst. But they're not quite that bad.

    I see where you’re coming from but they are very base-heavy. When there are more than one 4/4*s with better voyage scores than a 5/5*, the 5/5* is basically a very good 4/4* on a practical level.
  • Zombie Squirrel Zombie Squirrel ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2019
    S31 wrote: »
    How to make Cheesecake Seven worthwhile?

    Seven in Brown - super rare
    Sci 550 (300-500)
    Eng 910 (300-500
    Med 350 (200-300)

    THE DOCTOR - super rare
    Sci 550 (300-500)
    Eng 350 (200-300)
    Med 910 (300-500)

    Cheesecake Seven - legendary

    Sci 1100 (400-700)
    ENG 1000 (400-700)
    MED 1000 (400-700)

    Best is, to release her just as normal Legendary with good or great status imho. Less expensive for everyone who is trying to get and max her.

    I never got why ppl were so eager to finally have 2 SRs being able to fuse into a legendary. Now those ppl saw what DB made out of their request,
    hope they are happy.

    Just stop this nonsene. If u want new easter eggs, do as before like fusing 2 Rares into a SR,or as a 1st , 2 UC into a rare.
    •SSR Delta Flyers•
  • SoupKitchen RikerSoupKitchen Riker ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2019
    Horrible stats for a card needing as much effort as this one... Really, DB? Come on, man! The Binars calibrate the computers of star ships... just seems like those stats should be better.
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  • RaraRacingRaraRacing ✭✭✭✭✭
    I guess the positive of this ... I'm sure the majority of players don't have the 5* version immortalised ...

    Should they ever come up in a fully immortalised 4* behold, you can just pick 'em and start the fuse process ...

    So, that's kinda helpful for the all-4* immortal behold issue? ... caveat ... once they get added to the portal (which takes DB eons anyway).

    Ah well.

    As a non-spender, I'll show my support through not hitting ad warps anymore (even on the Dabo wheel) ...
  • I'm rarely on the forums. I really should have investigated the stats on this crew, but didn't imagine they could be so abysmal given the effort we know it takes. Bought 4 packs before checking things out on the wiki. Shocked. Came here to say WTH? Guess I've got a few comrades. Let's go, fix it
  • Just tried for one of the Binars and got a surprise Khan. Lol!

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    Tried twice for Binars got Two Khans!!
    Luck of RNG
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