Is this on?!
OK so this event has created a lot of discussions among us based on your feedback, which is good.
We realize that this really was not a good choice for a flashback, and we will review our process going forwards.
So this week's event will be its own special and unique thing. And we are adding one additional threshold reward, Detective Data, at 475,000 points.
Allow me to be a different voice here. I agree with someone above who said this is a welcome change. It’s pretty cool to get a different event type. One that we haven’t had in so long that it is almost new again. My very first event was an expedition so it has nostalgia value for me. It’s a good change of pace to me and I will certAinly be participating quite a bit as I want that T’Pol. I’m looking forward to it whether I see it as a grind or a nice change of pace. You can’t always please everyone and on the other hand, many people have been asking for an expedition again. They have a voice too and they have a voice that deserves to be heard. When I see a galaxy where I don’t when any of the crew I simply bow out and take the weekend off. That is also sometimes a nice change of pace. So I say to you Shan, it’s ok to have this event and no need to explain that it’s ok. Now, if the event crew default to the top, then I may even go for multiple copies of my beloved!
I think all Shan meant was that an expedition does not work well for flashback.
They will have to make the decision in the future. If they choose a flashback it will require more work for them.
Thought about it all week and I have decided to bow out of this event, my dislike of Expeditions is stronger than my desire to hit threshold.
My one worry is that I've never missed an event before, I've never even considered it, and by giving myself permission to skip one event it might allow that decision to be made easier in the future for other non-Expedition events. It already has kind of happened, this weekend while I was thinking this over I found my drive to push hard in the Skirmish dwindle, and I posted my lowest Skirmish score in at least a year (still posted 1.3 million or something but I'm usually up around 2-3 million).
I hear ya. I did not have much incentive either to get my Moriarty to two stars which raised his stats all of like 40 points. Expeditions be annoying so considering skipping it as well here but I am waiting till Wednesday till we see what the mega is.
My decision is two-fold.
1. I really, REALLY have strong negative memories of the last Expeditions I did, like conditioned anxiety. You mention an Expedition and my stomach hurts, and the thought of not doing an Expedition removes that pain and replaces it with happiness.
2. Expeditions are much more of a time investment than I am comfortable making. Over the course of 4 days I can invest as many hours as I choose in a Galaxy or a Skirmish..."oh, I have 10 minutes free before I need to do a thing, let me Galaxy/Skirmish for 10 minutes." And on Factions to do well yes you must check in regularly, but each check in is only a minute or two once you have your kickstart done. but an Expedition is a serious time investment, and it all has to be done right now. You cash in a ticket and it takes a long time to complete it, and then you have five more that need to be done today, plus they give you more which ALSO need to be done today, because any unspent tickets are wasted when they refill back to 6. And yes a ticket can be completed faster at the cost of not maximizing points which just means you will need to buy more tickets to hit threshold now that threshold is 350,000 and not 130,000, which also will not shorten the amount of time you'll need to invest every day just to hit threshold.
I agree with Bylo, Expeditions are a huge time investment, unlike other events. Also there are some sort of extra rewards for all other events, but for an Expedition, you only get event rewards. What a waste of time.
Expeditions don't offer the kind of loot that Skirmishes drop and don't have Community Rewards a la Galaxy Events, true enough. But they're no more of a time investment than Skirmishes or Galaxies. If anything, they're easier to manage because once you've claimed the max VP from each node, there's no pressing need to keep going unless you're hellbent on grinding out every last point you can. That gives Expeditions a built-in mechanism for stopping that Skirmishes and Galaxies lack.
Faction events are much worse, they take your boosts away and give nothing in return. At least these expeditions aren't taking chronitons or boosts. Maybe a bit of dilithium but with the monthly card it shouldn't be an issue.
Also, they're adding a legendary to flashback thresholds, which is great.
I thought Shan made it clear that this is a one-off kind of flashback that has a 5* in the threshold...I would not expect future flashbacks to do the same unless I enjoyed being disappointed.
Thought about it all week and I have decided to bow out of this event, my dislike of Expeditions is stronger than my desire to hit threshold.
My one worry is that I've never missed an event before, I've never even considered it, and by giving myself permission to skip one event it might allow that decision to be made easier in the future for other non-Expedition events. It already has kind of happened, this weekend while I was thinking this over I found my drive to push hard in the Skirmish dwindle, and I posted my lowest Skirmish score in at least a year (still posted 1.3 million or something but I'm usually up around 2-3 million).
I hear ya. I did not have much incentive either to get my Moriarty to two stars which raised his stats all of like 40 points. Expeditions be annoying so considering skipping it as well here but I am waiting till Wednesday till we see what the mega is.
My decision is two-fold.
1. I really, REALLY have strong negative memories of the last Expeditions I did, like conditioned anxiety. You mention an Expedition and my stomach hurts, and the thought of not doing an Expedition removes that pain and replaces it with happiness.
2. Expeditions are much more of a time investment than I am comfortable making. Over the course of 4 days I can invest as many hours as I choose in a Galaxy or a Skirmish..."oh, I have 10 minutes free before I need to do a thing, let me Galaxy/Skirmish for 10 minutes." And on Factions to do well yes you must check in regularly, but each check in is only a minute or two once you have your kickstart done. but an Expedition is a serious time investment, and it all has to be done right now. You cash in a ticket and it takes a long time to complete it, and then you have five more that need to be done today, plus they give you more which ALSO need to be done today, because any unspent tickets are wasted when they refill back to 6. And yes a ticket can be completed faster at the cost of not maximizing points which just means you will need to buy more tickets to hit threshold now that threshold is 350,000 and not 130,000, which also will not shorten the amount of time you'll need to invest every day just to hit threshold.
I have to chime in here to disagree with you on the time allocation for these events. One of the reasons I like expeditions is the fact you can blaze through the entire grid pretty fast & easy, and you set your own time & pace as to when you want to do this during the day. I can generally do all 6 tix in about 30-45 minutes. That gives me a net VP score-per time allotment FAR HIGHER than tap-tap-tapping away at galaxy or grinding through skirmishes, and less time involved than checking in on the faction missions during the jump-start. And then I can walk away from it until the next day, unless I truly want to try to jump to the top of the leaderboard, then I spend another leisurely 45-ish minutes with the extra tix I bought.
AND you don't have to do it all at once like I do, you can break it up however you want, just like your 10-minute jaunts for other events. Maybe clear normal mode in 10 minutes or don't even clear the whole section of missions in that node, then come back later to finish and clear epic, etc.
I just don't understand the resistance and dislike to Expeditions.
Thought about it all week and I have decided to bow out of this event, my dislike of Expeditions is stronger than my desire to hit threshold.
My one worry is that I've never missed an event before, I've never even considered it, and by giving myself permission to skip one event it might allow that decision to be made easier in the future for other non-Expedition events. It already has kind of happened, this weekend while I was thinking this over I found my drive to push hard in the Skirmish dwindle, and I posted my lowest Skirmish score in at least a year (still posted 1.3 million or something but I'm usually up around 2-3 million).
I hear ya. I did not have much incentive either to get my Moriarty to two stars which raised his stats all of like 40 points. Expeditions be annoying so considering skipping it as well here but I am waiting till Wednesday till we see what the mega is.
My decision is two-fold.
1. I really, REALLY have strong negative memories of the last Expeditions I did, like conditioned anxiety. You mention an Expedition and my stomach hurts, and the thought of not doing an Expedition removes that pain and replaces it with happiness.
2. Expeditions are much more of a time investment than I am comfortable making. Over the course of 4 days I can invest as many hours as I choose in a Galaxy or a Skirmish..."oh, I have 10 minutes free before I need to do a thing, let me Galaxy/Skirmish for 10 minutes." And on Factions to do well yes you must check in regularly, but each check in is only a minute or two once you have your kickstart done. but an Expedition is a serious time investment, and it all has to be done right now. You cash in a ticket and it takes a long time to complete it, and then you have five more that need to be done today, plus they give you more which ALSO need to be done today, because any unspent tickets are wasted when they refill back to 6. And yes a ticket can be completed faster at the cost of not maximizing points which just means you will need to buy more tickets to hit threshold now that threshold is 350,000 and not 130,000, which also will not shorten the amount of time you'll need to invest every day just to hit threshold.
I agree with Bylo, Expeditions are a huge time investment, unlike other events. Also there are some sort of extra rewards for all other events, but for an Expedition, you only get event rewards. What a waste of time.
Expeditions don't offer the kind of loot that Skirmishes drop and don't have Community Rewards a la Galaxy Events, true enough. But they're no more of a time investment than Skirmishes or Galaxies. If anything, they're easier to manage because once you've claimed the max VP from each node, there's no pressing need to keep going unless you're hellbent on grinding out every last point you can. That gives Expeditions a built-in mechanism for stopping that Skirmishes and Galaxies lack.
Faction events are much worse, they take your boosts away and give nothing in return. At least these expeditions aren't taking chronitons or boosts. Maybe a bit of dilithium but with the monthly card it shouldn't be an issue.
Also, they're adding a legendary to flashback thresholds, which is great.
Faction events use boosts that have no use outside of faction events. You're claiming expedition events may use DIL which has uses all over the game.
We all know you hate faction events, but claiming an event using DIL over boosts is an improvement is a bizarre argument.
Is this on?!
OK so this event has created a lot of discussions among us based on your feedback, which is good.
We realize that this really was not a good choice for a flashback, and we will review our process going forwards.
So this week's event will be its own special and unique thing. And we are adding one additional threshold reward, Detective Data, at 475,000 points.
Thank you.
Although i have to say, i even was happy before, that we see an Expedition again, no matter if there was an extra threshold reward or not. But maybe thats just me. 🤗
Obviously this was the easiest way for DB to bring back Expeditions, by using an old event. But instead of being happy to see a change between the usual Faction, Faction Hybrid overkill, some ppl were complaining. Because no matter what DB does, they ll never can do it right for some. Sadly. 😐
I just don t hope this means we will never ever see an Expedition again. Even as a re run, i would very welcome an Expedition anytime. 🙂
Thought about it all week and I have decided to bow out of this event, my dislike of Expeditions is stronger than my desire to hit threshold.
My one worry is that I've never missed an event before, I've never even considered it, and by giving myself permission to skip one event it might allow that decision to be made easier in the future for other non-Expedition events. It already has kind of happened, this weekend while I was thinking this over I found my drive to push hard in the Skirmish dwindle, and I posted my lowest Skirmish score in at least a year (still posted 1.3 million or something but I'm usually up around 2-3 million).
I hear ya. I did not have much incentive either to get my Moriarty to two stars which raised his stats all of like 40 points. Expeditions be annoying so considering skipping it as well here but I am waiting till Wednesday till we see what the mega is.
My decision is two-fold.
1. I really, REALLY have strong negative memories of the last Expeditions I did, like conditioned anxiety. You mention an Expedition and my stomach hurts, and the thought of not doing an Expedition removes that pain and replaces it with happiness.
2. Expeditions are much more of a time investment than I am comfortable making. Over the course of 4 days I can invest as many hours as I choose in a Galaxy or a Skirmish..."oh, I have 10 minutes free before I need to do a thing, let me Galaxy/Skirmish for 10 minutes." And on Factions to do well yes you must check in regularly, but each check in is only a minute or two once you have your kickstart done. but an Expedition is a serious time investment, and it all has to be done right now. You cash in a ticket and it takes a long time to complete it, and then you have five more that need to be done today, plus they give you more which ALSO need to be done today, because any unspent tickets are wasted when they refill back to 6. And yes a ticket can be completed faster at the cost of not maximizing points which just means you will need to buy more tickets to hit threshold now that threshold is 350,000 and not 130,000, which also will not shorten the amount of time you'll need to invest every day just to hit threshold.
I agree with Bylo, Expeditions are a huge time investment, unlike other events. Also there are some sort of extra rewards for all other events, but for an Expedition, you only get event rewards. What a waste of time.
Expeditions don't offer the kind of loot that Skirmishes drop and don't have Community Rewards a la Galaxy Events, true enough. But they're no more of a time investment than Skirmishes or Galaxies. If anything, they're easier to manage because once you've claimed the max VP from each node, there's no pressing need to keep going unless you're hellbent on grinding out every last point you can. That gives Expeditions a built-in mechanism for stopping that Skirmishes and Galaxies lack.
Faction events are much worse, they take your boosts away and give nothing in return. At least these expeditions aren't taking chronitons or boosts. Maybe a bit of dilithium but with the monthly card it shouldn't be an issue.
Also, they're adding a legendary to flashback thresholds, which is great.
Faction events use boosts that have no use outside of faction events. You're claiming expedition events may use DIL which has uses all over the game.
We all know you hate faction events, but claiming an event using DIL over boosts is an improvement is a bizarre argument.
Technically speaking, you can also use skill boosts in Galaxy events, as well as all boosts on regular non-Event shuttles. 🖖
"In the short run, the game defines the players. But in the long run, it's us players who define the game." — Nicky Case, The Evolution of Trust
Thought about it all week and I have decided to bow out of this event, my dislike of Expeditions is stronger than my desire to hit threshold.
My one worry is that I've never missed an event before, I've never even considered it, and by giving myself permission to skip one event it might allow that decision to be made easier in the future for other non-Expedition events. It already has kind of happened, this weekend while I was thinking this over I found my drive to push hard in the Skirmish dwindle, and I posted my lowest Skirmish score in at least a year (still posted 1.3 million or something but I'm usually up around 2-3 million).
I hear ya. I did not have much incentive either to get my Moriarty to two stars which raised his stats all of like 40 points. Expeditions be annoying so considering skipping it as well here but I am waiting till Wednesday till we see what the mega is.
My decision is two-fold.
1. I really, REALLY have strong negative memories of the last Expeditions I did, like conditioned anxiety. You mention an Expedition and my stomach hurts, and the thought of not doing an Expedition removes that pain and replaces it with happiness.
2. Expeditions are much more of a time investment than I am comfortable making. Over the course of 4 days I can invest as many hours as I choose in a Galaxy or a Skirmish..."oh, I have 10 minutes free before I need to do a thing, let me Galaxy/Skirmish for 10 minutes." And on Factions to do well yes you must check in regularly, but each check in is only a minute or two once you have your kickstart done. but an Expedition is a serious time investment, and it all has to be done right now. You cash in a ticket and it takes a long time to complete it, and then you have five more that need to be done today, plus they give you more which ALSO need to be done today, because any unspent tickets are wasted when they refill back to 6. And yes a ticket can be completed faster at the cost of not maximizing points which just means you will need to buy more tickets to hit threshold now that threshold is 350,000 and not 130,000, which also will not shorten the amount of time you'll need to invest every day just to hit threshold.
I agree with Bylo, Expeditions are a huge time investment, unlike other events. Also there are some sort of extra rewards for all other events, but for an Expedition, you only get event rewards. What a waste of time.
Expeditions don't offer the kind of loot that Skirmishes drop and don't have Community Rewards a la Galaxy Events, true enough. But they're no more of a time investment than Skirmishes or Galaxies. If anything, they're easier to manage because once you've claimed the max VP from each node, there's no pressing need to keep going unless you're hellbent on grinding out every last point you can. That gives Expeditions a built-in mechanism for stopping that Skirmishes and Galaxies lack.
Faction events are much worse, they take your boosts away and give nothing in return. At least these expeditions aren't taking chronitons or boosts. Maybe a bit of dilithium but with the monthly card it shouldn't be an issue.
Also, they're adding a legendary to flashback thresholds, which is great.
Faction events use boosts that have no use outside of faction events. You're claiming expedition events may use DIL which has uses all over the game.
We all know you hate faction events, but claiming an event using DIL over boosts is an improvement is a bizarre argument.
Technically speaking, you can also use skill boosts in Galaxy events, as well as all boosts on regular non-Event shuttles. 🖖
I was going to say that. Great minds......I used well over 6,000 skill boosts 3* and higher this past galaxy
Is this on?!
OK so this event has created a lot of discussions among us based on your feedback, which is good.
We realize that this really was not a good choice for a flashback, and we will review our process going forwards.
So this week's event will be its own special and unique thing. And we are adding one additional threshold reward, Detective Data, at 475,000 points.
This will be my first Expedition and I was planning on nonchalantly trying to figure it out as I go. But I now have reason to put some serious effort into it and add a star to Data! Thank you @Shan for the update!!
Is this on?!
OK so this event has created a lot of discussions among us based on your feedback, which is good.
We realize that this really was not a good choice for a flashback, and we will review our process going forwards.
So this week's event will be its own special and unique thing. And we are adding one additional threshold reward, Detective Data, at 475,000 points.
This will be my first Expedition and I was planning on nonchalantly trying to figure it out as I go. But I now have reason to put some serious effort into it and add a star to Data! Thank you @Shan for the update!!
475k VP is not that tough to hit really ... 450k VP was the threshold during the second run of this event and has been the threshold almost since they were first run ... and this was back when there were a lot less bonus crew available.
It isn't a walk in the park, but not anything different than a grind for Galaxy or Skirmish thresholds either.
I have to say ... I'm really happy with the solution put forward by adding Data in. He was on my wanted list for aeons (Rabid Fans - SEC - Investigator trait), and even though I've long since passed that node (Thrax) Data still holds that memory from the early days where that was pretty much my only locked node ... ah nostalgia.
Is this on?!
OK so this event has created a lot of discussions among us based on your feedback, which is good.
We realize that this really was not a good choice for a flashback, and we will review our process going forwards.
So this week's event will be its own special and unique thing. And we are adding one additional threshold reward, Detective Data, at 475,000 points.
This will be my first Expedition and I was planning on nonchalantly trying to figure it out as I go. But I now have reason to put some serious effort into it and add a star to Data! Thank you @Shan for the update!!
475k VP is not that tough to hit really ... 450k VP was the threshold during the second run of this event and has been the threshold almost since they were first run ... and this was back when there were a lot less bonus crew available.
It isn't a walk in the park, but not anything different than a grind for Galaxy or Skirmish thresholds either.
I have to say ... I'm really happy with the solution put forward by adding Data in. He was on my wanted list for aeons (Rabid Fans - SEC - Investigator trait), and even though I've long since passed that node (Thrax) Data still holds that memory from the early days where that was pretty much my only locked node ... ah nostalgia.
Yes, I remember that well myself. He was the only one that could do it
Can someone remind me how tickets & phases work? We get 6 tickets a day, right? Do those expire or do they accumulate as the event goes on?
(IE: do I need to play my 6 each day or can I wait until later in the event and power through a bunch at once?)
It's been so long I forgot how many free tickets you get each day and thought it was 3.
Either way, you only get a free recharge once a day at reset. So if you have 2 tickets left and its reset time, you'll get refilled back to full (3 or 6 tickets), effectively wasting 2.
Good news is that it's pretty quick to burn through a ticket.
Is this on?!
OK so this event has created a lot of discussions among us based on your feedback, which is good.
We realize that this really was not a good choice for a flashback, and we will review our process going forwards.
So this week's event will be its own special and unique thing. And we are adding one additional threshold reward, Detective Data, at 475,000 points.
Any chance of making that Detective Data star a gold citation instead please? I already have him immortalised and your announcement kinda took the wind out of my sails - many players now have an extra reason to push harder but I dont.
As anyone who knows me knows, I play every event. Since the cap was raised from 1000 to 1500 for the weekly gold, I am less annoyed by Galaxy. With Faction or Expedition, you have a pretty good feel where you are going to land. With Galaxy, who knows how many folks are sitting out there with a pile of special rewards to cash in at t-30?
The only real issue I ever had with Expedition is event crew not being at the top. With old cards—Prof, Holmes Data, Watson La Forge—being the crew this go, they will be waaaay down the list.
But, as my father’s always said, “that’s no step for a stepper.” I’ve occasionally popped up and insinuated folks shouldn’t whine. Every game has issues. Every pay-to-play favors the whales. But this game is better than most.
If you don’t like the event, don’t play. If participation drops off, the devs should notice. Browbeating @Shan or your fellow players about how much you hate X event; how many times X or Y event crops up, and (insanely imho) then whining about an event type not seen in years is just petty.
The event is simple enough—Away missions where your crew loses health (like in the Gauntlet). The strategy is simple: use your worst crew first on the easy level, then your better crew, then your best. Once all nodes are cleared, end the ticket and start over. My only suggestion here is start on Epic on the subsequent tickets to maximize points first. Make notes about what crew worked, look at the Wiki if needed, hell, even look at my ancient game guide at dougberry.hubpages.com. And yes, I know it needs updating.
As anyone who knows me knows, I play every event. Since the cap was raised from 1000 to 1500 for the weekly gold, I am less annoyed by Galaxy. With Faction or Expedition, you have a pretty good feel where you are going to land. With Galaxy, who knows how many folks are sitting out there with a pile of special rewards to cash in at t-30?
The only real issue I ever had with Expedition is event crew not being at the top. With old cards—Prof, Holmes Data, Watson La Forge—being the crew this go, they will be waaaay down the list.
But, as my father’s always said, “that’s no step for a stepper.” I’ve occasionally popped up and insinuated folks shouldn’t whine. Every game has issues. Every pay-to-play favors the whales. But this game is better than most.
If you don’t like the event, don’t play. If participation drops off, the devs should notice. Browbeating @Shan or your fellow players about how much you hate X event; how many times X or Y event crops up, and (insanely imho) then whining about an event type not seen in years is just petty.
The event is simple enough—Away missions where your crew loses health (like in the Gauntlet). The strategy is simple: use your worst crew first on the easy level, then your better crew, then your best. Once all nodes are cleared, end the ticket and start over. My only suggestion here is start on Epic on the subsequent tickets to maximize points first. Make notes about what crew worked, look at the Wiki if needed, hell, even look at my ancient game guide at dougberry.hubpages.com. And yes, I know it needs updating.
*rant off*
If you take away complaining about events from forum then what would we talk about?
Perhaps they aren't your favourite pay style. Perhaps event with a this investment structure aren't something you will do. What I don't get are these statements. Expeditions are few and far between. Other people like them.
God forbid every event isn't your favourite. Seriously, PTSD from an event? Opinions are one thing, but i think that's a bit too much drama.
It may not literally be PTSD, but if you were around for the Christmas screw up you'd understand why some people have extremely negative memories of expedition events.
I have PTSD. If Mirror Beverly Crusher is genuinely upsetting in anyone's life, I envy them.
Thought about it all week and I have decided to bow out of this event, my dislike of Expeditions is stronger than my desire to hit threshold.
My one worry is that I've never missed an event before, I've never even considered it, and by giving myself permission to skip one event it might allow that decision to be made easier in the future for other non-Expedition events. It already has kind of happened, this weekend while I was thinking this over I found my drive to push hard in the Skirmish dwindle, and I posted my lowest Skirmish score in at least a year (still posted 1.3 million or something but I'm usually up around 2-3 million).
I hear ya. I did not have much incentive either to get my Moriarty to two stars which raised his stats all of like 40 points. Expeditions be annoying so considering skipping it as well here but I am waiting till Wednesday till we see what the mega is.
My decision is two-fold.
1. I really, REALLY have strong negative memories of the last Expeditions I did, like conditioned anxiety. You mention an Expedition and my stomach hurts, and the thought of not doing an Expedition removes that pain and replaces it with happiness.
2. Expeditions are much more of a time investment than I am comfortable making. Over the course of 4 days I can invest as many hours as I choose in a Galaxy or a Skirmish..."oh, I have 10 minutes free before I need to do a thing, let me Galaxy/Skirmish for 10 minutes." And on Factions to do well yes you must check in regularly, but each check in is only a minute or two once you have your kickstart done. but an Expedition is a serious time investment, and it all has to be done right now. You cash in a ticket and it takes a long time to complete it, and then you have five more that need to be done today, plus they give you more which ALSO need to be done today, because any unspent tickets are wasted when they refill back to 6. And yes a ticket can be completed faster at the cost of not maximizing points which just means you will need to buy more tickets to hit threshold now that threshold is 350,000 and not 130,000, which also will not shorten the amount of time you'll need to invest every day just to hit threshold.
I agree with Bylo, Expeditions are a huge time investment, unlike other events. Also there are some sort of extra rewards for all other events, but for an Expedition, you only get event rewards. What a waste of time.
Expeditions don't offer the kind of loot that Skirmishes drop and don't have Community Rewards a la Galaxy Events, true enough. But they're no more of a time investment than Skirmishes or Galaxies. If anything, they're easier to manage because once you've claimed the max VP from each node, there's no pressing need to keep going unless you're hellbent on grinding out every last point you can. That gives Expeditions a built-in mechanism for stopping that Skirmishes and Galaxies lack.
Faction events are much worse, they take your boosts away and give nothing in return. At least these expeditions aren't taking chronitons or boosts. Maybe a bit of dilithium but with the monthly card it shouldn't be an issue.
Also, they're adding a legendary to flashback thresholds, which is great.
I mean, boosts were made for Faction Events so I don't see an issue with Faction Events using them. I've gotten to a point where I typically only use time reducers and point multiplier boosts in those events; skill boosts get used in Galaxy Events to hasten my ability to bail. My non-event shuttles don't merit boosts.
Complaints and opinions are one thing. But some people get a bit too dramatic. Announcing an event type gives you PTSD and you aren't going to play, is less a complaint an more of a passive aggressive threat.
I love debate. I value opinions. But the melodrama and hyperbole doesn't add much of value.
Some people believe the event type demands too much in a rigid time structure that doesn't work for them. We all have different lives and that is a valid point. Perhaps they would like to ask DB to have the ticket clock pause when they close the game. At the same time you should consider there might be people who can only play the game in long bursts at very specific times. They may not be able to drop into the game for 5-10 minutes every two hours. They may only have 3 hours after work or school so an event that packs everything into that short time frame allows them to get more than usual.
something these players may like to consider is that having event types you can't or don't like helps you potentially enjoy the game for a longer period of time. Taking a weekend off slows your progress. There are no levels beyond 99. The longer it takes you to reach goals in the game, the longer you get to feel that sense of progress.
If you take away complaining about events from forum then what would we talk about?
Life, the Universe, and Stuff. My wife also recommends Things.
The universe? And here we are in 10FH talking about our solar system. We think so small, lol. We haven't had a good Pluto re-hash in a while.
But I do have to ask, @Fantastic ... and this might be a little meta in our forum game, but... Do you see the irony in complaining about the complaining?
Complaints and opinions are one thing. But some people get a bit too dramatic. Announcing an event type gives you PTSD and you aren't going to play, is less a complaint an more of a passive aggressive threat.
Agreed. Though if you really want something to laugh at, there's a thread somewhere on the old forum in which a former player led a whole crusade that if DB knew what was good for them, they would never add any Niners crew because he wasn't American and sports are stupid and have no place in Star Trek. It went on for several truly bizarre pages. To this day, that remains my favorite "Are you serious?" thread I've ever participated in on any forum.
Complaints and opinions are one thing. But some people get a bit too dramatic. Announcing an event type gives you PTSD and you aren't going to play, is less a complaint an more of a passive aggressive threat.
Agreed. Though if you really want something to laugh at, there's a thread somewhere on the old forum in which a former player led a whole crusade that if DB knew what was good for them, they would never add any Niners crew because he wasn't American and sports are stupid and have no place in Star Trek. It went on for several truly bizarre pages. To this day, that remains my favorite "Are you serious?" thread I've ever participated in on any forum.
But I do have to ask, @Fantastic ... and this might be a little meta in our forum game, but... Do you see the irony in complaining about the complaining?
Oddly enough, I don’t come to the Key Information thread for whining and arguments. There are plenty enough threads dedicated to that. Maybe a, “Complaints about the Key Information” thread? Vs actual inquiries about the event...
But I do have to ask, @Fantastic ... and this might be a little meta in our forum game, but... Do you see the irony in complaining about the complaining?
Oddly enough, I don’t come to the Key Information thread for whining and arguments. There are plenty enough threads dedicated to that. Maybe a, “Complaints about the Key Information” thread? Vs actual inquiries about the event...
Then you are missing out. I've seen some interesting ideas sprout from the complaints. Case in point: adding Detective Data to the rewards.
Complaints and opinions are one thing. But some people get a bit too dramatic. Announcing an event type gives you PTSD and you aren't going to play, is less a complaint an more of a passive aggressive threat.
Agreed. Though if you really want something to laugh at, there's a thread somewhere on the old forum in which a former player led a whole crusade that if DB knew what was good for them, they would never add any Niners crew because he wasn't American and sports are stupid and have no place in Star Trek. It went on for several truly bizarre pages. To this day, that remains my favorite "Are you serious?" thread I've ever participated in on any forum.
I was in on Page One of the Gecko45 Mall Ninja Thread.....
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I think all Shan meant was that an expedition does not work well for flashback.
They will have to make the decision in the future. If they choose a flashback it will require more work for them.
I thought Shan made it clear that this is a one-off kind of flashback that has a 5* in the threshold...I would not expect future flashbacks to do the same unless I enjoyed being disappointed.
Guess I'll try to get Data. If my weekend isn't too chaotica, I might just squeeze that in.
I have to chime in here to disagree with you on the time allocation for these events. One of the reasons I like expeditions is the fact you can blaze through the entire grid pretty fast & easy, and you set your own time & pace as to when you want to do this during the day. I can generally do all 6 tix in about 30-45 minutes. That gives me a net VP score-per time allotment FAR HIGHER than tap-tap-tapping away at galaxy or grinding through skirmishes, and less time involved than checking in on the faction missions during the jump-start. And then I can walk away from it until the next day, unless I truly want to try to jump to the top of the leaderboard, then I spend another leisurely 45-ish minutes with the extra tix I bought.
AND you don't have to do it all at once like I do, you can break it up however you want, just like your 10-minute jaunts for other events. Maybe clear normal mode in 10 minutes or don't even clear the whole section of missions in that node, then come back later to finish and clear epic, etc.
I just don't understand the resistance and dislike to Expeditions.
Faction events use boosts that have no use outside of faction events. You're claiming expedition events may use DIL which has uses all over the game.
We all know you hate faction events, but claiming an event using DIL over boosts is an improvement is a bizarre argument.
Thank you.
Although i have to say, i even was happy before, that we see an Expedition again, no matter if there was an extra threshold reward or not. But maybe thats just me. 🤗
Obviously this was the easiest way for DB to bring back Expeditions, by using an old event. But instead of being happy to see a change between the usual Faction, Faction Hybrid overkill, some ppl were complaining. Because no matter what DB does, they ll never can do it right for some. Sadly. 😐
I just don t hope this means we will never ever see an Expedition again. Even as a re run, i would very welcome an Expedition anytime. 🙂
Technically speaking, you can also use skill boosts in Galaxy events, as well as all boosts on regular non-Event shuttles. 🖖
I was going to say that. Great minds......I used well over 6,000 skill boosts 3* and higher this past galaxy
This will be my first Expedition and I was planning on nonchalantly trying to figure it out as I go. But I now have reason to put some serious effort into it and add a star to Data! Thank you @Shan for the update!!
Shan,
Thanks for the update and thanks for including Detective Data in the threshold rewards. That's a great decision.
Captain Level: 95
VIP Level: 12
Unique Crew Immortalized: 525
Collections Completed: Vulcan, Ferengi, Borg, Romulan, Cardassian, Uncommon, Rare, Veteran, Common, Engineered, Physician, Innovator, Inspiring, Diplomat, Jury Rigger, Gauntlet Legends
Good luck to everyone going for Data, and have fun.
475k VP is not that tough to hit really ... 450k VP was the threshold during the second run of this event and has been the threshold almost since they were first run ... and this was back when there were a lot less bonus crew available.
It isn't a walk in the park, but not anything different than a grind for Galaxy or Skirmish thresholds either.
I have to say ... I'm really happy with the solution put forward by adding Data in. He was on my wanted list for aeons (Rabid Fans - SEC - Investigator trait), and even though I've long since passed that node (Thrax) Data still holds that memory from the early days where that was pretty much my only locked node ... ah nostalgia.
🖖👍♥️👍🖖
Yes, I remember that well myself. He was the only one that could do it
(IE: do I need to play my 6 each day or can I wait until later in the event and power through a bunch at once?)
It's been so long I forgot how many free tickets you get each day and thought it was 3.
Either way, you only get a free recharge once a day at reset. So if you have 2 tickets left and its reset time, you'll get refilled back to full (3 or 6 tickets), effectively wasting 2.
Good news is that it's pretty quick to burn through a ticket.
Any chance of making that Detective Data star a gold citation instead please?
As anyone who knows me knows, I play every event. Since the cap was raised from 1000 to 1500 for the weekly gold, I am less annoyed by Galaxy. With Faction or Expedition, you have a pretty good feel where you are going to land. With Galaxy, who knows how many folks are sitting out there with a pile of special rewards to cash in at t-30?
The only real issue I ever had with Expedition is event crew not being at the top. With old cards—Prof, Holmes Data, Watson La Forge—being the crew this go, they will be waaaay down the list.
But, as my father’s always said, “that’s no step for a stepper.” I’ve occasionally popped up and insinuated folks shouldn’t whine. Every game has issues. Every pay-to-play favors the whales. But this game is better than most.
If you don’t like the event, don’t play. If participation drops off, the devs should notice. Browbeating @Shan or your fellow players about how much you hate X event; how many times X or Y event crops up, and (insanely imho) then whining about an event type not seen in years is just petty.
The event is simple enough—Away missions where your crew loses health (like in the Gauntlet). The strategy is simple: use your worst crew first on the easy level, then your better crew, then your best. Once all nodes are cleared, end the ticket and start over. My only suggestion here is start on Epic on the subsequent tickets to maximize points first. Make notes about what crew worked, look at the Wiki if needed, hell, even look at my ancient game guide at dougberry.hubpages.com. And yes, I know it needs updating.
*rant off*
If you take away complaining about events from forum then what would we talk about?
Life, the Universe, and Stuff. My wife also recommends Things.
I have PTSD. If Mirror Beverly Crusher is genuinely upsetting in anyone's life, I envy them.
Yes, it is; no, it wasn't; and yay/thanks!, respectively.
I mean, boosts were made for Faction Events so I don't see an issue with Faction Events using them. I've gotten to a point where I typically only use time reducers and point multiplier boosts in those events; skill boosts get used in Galaxy Events to hasten my ability to bail. My non-event shuttles don't merit boosts.
I love debate. I value opinions. But the melodrama and hyperbole doesn't add much of value.
Some people believe the event type demands too much in a rigid time structure that doesn't work for them. We all have different lives and that is a valid point. Perhaps they would like to ask DB to have the ticket clock pause when they close the game. At the same time you should consider there might be people who can only play the game in long bursts at very specific times. They may not be able to drop into the game for 5-10 minutes every two hours. They may only have 3 hours after work or school so an event that packs everything into that short time frame allows them to get more than usual.
something these players may like to consider is that having event types you can't or don't like helps you potentially enjoy the game for a longer period of time. Taking a weekend off slows your progress. There are no levels beyond 99. The longer it takes you to reach goals in the game, the longer you get to feel that sense of progress.
The universe? And here we are in 10FH talking about our solar system. We think so small, lol. We haven't had a good Pluto re-hash in a while.
But I do have to ask, @Fantastic ... and this might be a little meta in our forum game, but... Do you see the irony in complaining about the complaining?
Agreed. Though if you really want something to laugh at, there's a thread somewhere on the old forum in which a former player led a whole crusade that if DB knew what was good for them, they would never add any Niners crew because he wasn't American and sports are stupid and have no place in Star Trek. It went on for several truly bizarre pages. To this day, that remains my favorite "Are you serious?" thread I've ever participated in on any forum.
I'm laughing just thinking about it. Wow.
Oddly enough, I don’t come to the Key Information thread for whining and arguments. There are plenty enough threads dedicated to that. Maybe a, “Complaints about the Key Information” thread? Vs actual inquiries about the event...
Then you are missing out. I've seen some interesting ideas sprout from the complaints. Case in point: adding Detective Data to the rewards.
I was in on Page One of the Gecko45 Mall Ninja Thread.....
http://www.oocities.org/suketh.geo/gun/mall_ninja_1.html
It actually coined a phrase......
It was EPIC!!!!!!!!