Why does DB hate Jonathan Archer?
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Jonathan Archer is the first interstellar captain, founder of the COP and the most responsible guy for even creating UFP.
Yet DB obviously hates him. He wasn't used in events even when the event is an Andorian-Vulcan war, the event he literally stopped.
And what were the purpose of EV Suit Archer and North Star Archer if they aren't used in any events?
Yet DB obviously hates him. He wasn't used in events even when the event is an Andorian-Vulcan war, the event he literally stopped.
And what were the purpose of EV Suit Archer and North Star Archer if they aren't used in any events?
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Couldn't they have just decided on a more Discovery-centric event? This feels like a slap in the face.
People can like what they want, but it is hard to believe that DB does not hate Enterprise.
Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.
~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
Kinda back door of saying something that could be considered offensive, but I will counter it just as obtusely. The Star Trek Fanbase has always been diverse across several areas of demographics mostly due to its record of fairly diverse casting.
And to put it even less obtusely. Doctor Martin Luther King Jr was aware of and saw the importance of Star Trek, some accounts even have him watching it.
It is an international slap in the face and not the first one. Of that, I have no doubt. I'm fed up with their egregious and antagonistic crew selection, as well as the misleading events and event titles. It is not acceptable.
Would the main reason i could think for him not to be around as must
Janeway-5000
Picard-5000
Burnham-5000
Archer-2000
Then db would probly hammer down more on the money makers
Not saying this is the case just a thought
There's a real shortage of Kirk and Picard, of course.
MLK being aware of, or watching, Star Trek is a fan myth that has been debunked many times. He was a little too busy dealing with civil rights issues to sit down and watch a fringe sci-fi show with low ratings. The myth of course is perpetuated by Nichelle Nichols and her ever changing account of meeting MLK.
Jim
And that gazelle speech. After VOY's 'Threshold' I always wondered if Trek could get any worse, and ENT answered that with a definitive yes with the gazelle speech.
It's a shame, as he was a lot better at being Captain than Janeway. Cannot quite imagine Archer risking his ship so he could keep scratching an itch for holographic Oirish sexy times.
And yet we have so many Janeways.
There is a different question there - why would anyone buy Archer's pack when he is never used in events.
I'm sorry but after the whole Dwight Schultz misinfo from you earlier, I need some citations.
Don't talk to my friend in the background like that!
Agreed, Pallidyne.
https://theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2016/oct/18/star-trek-nichelle-nichols-martin-luther-king-trekker
"In her autobiography, Nichelle Nichols writes that he (MLK) told her she couldn’t leave because she was a role model for millions of young girls and women – the only African-American on TV in a role worth having."
There has been a diverse fanbase from Day 1.
LeVar Burton at Steel City Con
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAnvwVyfqWY
(And yes I managed to get a question in on a different topic.)
I'm sorry but I don't provide misinformation. I stated, quite clearly, that I recalled reading, around the time that Dirk Benedict went on a misogynistic rant about RDM's recasting Starbuck, that there had been reports that the set of the original A-Team was a boys club. If you re-read that thread I believe another poster stated Schultz's misogyny was a matter of public record.
As for Nichelle Nichols' ever changing spin on MLK... feel free to read up on it yourself. There's plenty out there.
I've still yet to find anything on the A-Team pieces except allegations against George Peppard. That is with several hours of research as well, as well as written interviews with former female lead on the A-Team as well as several guest stars, in TV Guide, Entertainment Weekly and other magazines. She did complain that Mr. T was also a camera hog however.
Benedict apparently didn't lose his head til the Galactica reboot and he was pissed someone got 'his role'. He had some interesting things to say about Bradley Cooper as well.
What did Europeans get? A fussy Brit in the form of reed
Although not as popular as Kirk and Picard, I think it's fair to say that we could at least have Archer in an event a single time in over two years of events. I don't complain when some of the much worse characters like Kim and Stamets are used in events.
I dunno what this is all about, but it clearly goes beyond Archer being overlooked. If it's some kind of running joke, it stopped being funny some time in 2016. And if there's a more serious explanation, I'm with those players who feel it's high time we were at least told what it is.
I am not sure what was offensive about that. Was it stating Hollywood's clear preferences or is it simply offensive now to be a part of a certain demographic and *have* an opinion? Which part was offensive to you?
Lol, if you really don't find it easy to find, you're in a mental demographic that probably promotes that kind of offensive thought.
The fact that we now have more Burnhams in the game than we do Archers, and that she's been an event character repeatedly to the point where DB is making people sick of her already, after the show's been around for less than a year, seems almost counter-productive.
Hell, we have approved Archer art that dates back to the beta and has been used in-game repeatedly that corresponds to no in-crew version of Archer. Seriously, what is the deal, DB?
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