Boy, I sure hope that head wasn't just surgically removed from an early TNG version of O'Brien that they've decided to forgo in place of whatever this is. (Like, perhaps a one star Encounter at Farpoint O'Brien, who fans have been clamoring for?)
(And by fans, I mean me. I was clamoring for it).
Totally looks like a profile bridge O'Brien looking up at the screen.
Boy, I sure hope that head wasn't just surgically removed from an early TNG version of O'Brien that they've decided to forgo in place of whatever this is. (Like, perhaps a one star Encounter at Farpoint O'Brien, who fans have been clamoring for?)
(And by fans, I mean me. I was clamoring for it).
Totally looks like a profile bridge O'Brien looking up at the screen.
I'm digging that O'Brien artwork. Hopefully he has awesome eng.
With a big gun like that he's clearly going to be SEC primary. If he even has ENG it'll probably be his secondary skill or even more likely tertiary. I'm expecting SEC/ENG or SEC/CMD/ENG.
I'm digging that O'Brien artwork. Hopefully he has awesome eng.
With a big gun like that he's clearly going to be SEC primary. If he even has ENG it'll probably be his secondary skill or even more likely tertiary. I'm expecting SEC/ENG or SEC/CMD/ENG.
So just another Falcon O'Brien? I hope not. Would be better if he had CMD as his primary skill -- that would make this version more unique.
Not sure what to make of it. The head (hair) looks like a younger O'Brien. I am happy he isn't wearing the trademark holes-in-clothes outfit though, that always seemed silly to me.
Very curious about Leeta, we can hardly see her like this. Will have to wait until tomorrow ;-)
He's wearing the TOS augment clothing from when they first met Khan.
Yeah, glad to see some representation of that.
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I'm digging that O'Brien artwork. Hopefully he has awesome eng.
With a big gun like that he's clearly going to be SEC primary. If he even has ENG it'll probably be his secondary skill or even more likely tertiary. I'm expecting SEC/ENG or SEC/CMD/ENG.
You're probably right, but remember that at least one 5* character holding a gun has no security skill at all.
I'm digging that O'Brien artwork. Hopefully he has awesome eng.
With a big gun like that he's clearly going to be SEC primary. If he even has ENG it'll probably be his secondary skill or even more likely tertiary. I'm expecting SEC/ENG or SEC/CMD/ENG.
So just another Falcon O'Brien? I hope not. Would be better if he had CMD as his primary skill -- that would make this version more unique.
I could be happy with a COM/ENG/SEC skill set - I don’t think they could get away with only two skills this time. Also, we just had a COM/SEC/ENG 5* with Captain Killy a few weeks ago and RAF O’Brien is already ENG/COM/SEC, though DB may choose to go with a skill set that works with the story rather than is balanced against similar characters.
I'm digging that O'Brien artwork. Hopefully he has awesome eng.
With a big gun like that he's clearly going to be SEC primary. If he even has ENG it'll probably be his secondary skill or even more likely tertiary. I'm expecting SEC/ENG or SEC/CMD/ENG.
In further support of my hope that it's not a SEC primary version of O'Brien:
Four versions of Picard carry a gun in their illustration -- Galen, Tommy Gun Dixon, Enterprise E Picard, and Mirror Picard. Only Tommy Gun Dixon is a SEC primary. Galen is SCI, Ent E Picard is DIP, and Mirror Picard is CMD.
I'm digging that O'Brien artwork. Hopefully he has awesome eng.
With a big gun like that he's clearly going to be SEC primary. If he even has ENG it'll probably be his secondary skill or even more likely tertiary. I'm expecting SEC/ENG or SEC/CMD/ENG.
You're probably right, but remember that at least one 5* character holding a gun has no security skill at all.
I was thinking about this earlier. Wondering if there were any. Nice example!
Leeta looks like she'll be ok to me but I reeeeeeally don't like the look of that O'Brien... Oh well
I don't find him objectively bad, just the usual cut and paste head look. He's not offensive in appearance at least lol. Leeta looks promising, so many of the basic art complaints are conpletelt style based.
This is defo an area DB needs to work on. They don´t do self invented crew too often. And when they do it it would be a great chance for them to "shine". And not just pick a motive from an episode and base their "creation" on that. Or give us something like the ultimate uglyness that is 23rd Century Martok...
This is defo an area DB needs to work on. They don´t do self invented crew too often. And when they do it it would be a great chance for them to "shine". And not just pick a motive from an episode and base their "creation" on that. Or give us something like the ultimate uglyness that is 23rd Century Martok...
It’s not even DS9 as the event demands. It’s TNG. Also I kinda don’t like Leeta either. That random blue line down her nose looks really out of place. Omma still immortalize her though
It’s not even DS9 as the event demands. It’s TNG. Also I kinda don’t like Leeta either. That random blue line down her nose looks really out of place. Omma still immortalize her though
Yeah, not the most glorious of choices in many ways, lol. The cuteness of Leeta/Chase Masterson kinda comes across, but as you said - that blue line is soooo out of place.
The way to improve a product is to critique it. Blowing complement smoke in DBs face when they give us something stupid like Augment O'Brien isn't helping the product. I use to spend more than $500 a month before I became increasingly less satisfied. That isn't a lot of money.
$500 a month
Riker: "That isn't a lot of money"
Me, whose rent is 400 a month: Uh.... I sure wish I live in a financial boon like you apparently do where $500 is "not a lot"
My rent is $900/month. $500 is a lot of money to me at this stage in my life, most likely to the vast majority of the player base as well, but as was stated, entertainment budgets are relative to the individual.
There will always be people who spend lots of real money on a game--for whatever reason and justification they see fit--and that's completely okay. Many people can't because, ya know, real life stuff doesn't afford them the time or financial investment.
I completely agree that critiques by players provide valuable feedback for companies. DB has attempted to listen to forum feedback, but I think their interpretation might be skewed at times as shown by some decisions they have made. However, sometimes they have been on point with their decisions.This extended hybrid event has yet to even happen...and there are pitchforks everywhere with no justification other than "I don't wanna" or "the small segment of players who are active in the forums are generally against longer events".
While a company saying, "if you don't like it, don't play" may not be the best business tactic--it is the truth. Events are a supplementary aspect in the game with 100% voluntary participation. In fact, the entire game is voluntary. They will never, ever, make the entire player base happy. Even if they gave us a free FF legendary, there would still be people griping. If they shorten events or extend them, players will still spend money and/or participate regardless.
There's another side to the coin here, where there has been very consistent forum requests and even outside the forum on Facebook and in the game-wide Q&A about shorter events or at least negative feedback before and after longer events -- and not just from one or a couple loud voice(s).
One could easily say that DB decided against shorter because they 'don't wanna'.
If no one had been saying anything about event length, yeah go for it. And folks giving negative feedback on this is NOT in a vacuum. We've had the 5 day ones before, sometimes a hybrid sometimes a straight one event, so we know what longer feels like. The ONLY difference here is that all three legacy event types have a phase.
Or maybe you don't remember Christmas 2017 (Hybrid) ? Thanksgiving 2017 (Galaxy) ? Christmas 2016 (Expedition)? Labor Day 2016 (Faction)?
At least those were holidays for some folks, not working days.
It's like telling the kids that hate Brussel sprouts that hey, try it again you'll like it. Really, its something new...its a Trussel Sprouts, and don't complain about it.
I agree for the most part. It does seems DB has said "I don't wanna", despite the voices in the forum. Perhaps there simply isn't enough of the player base in the forums for DB to register the issues brought up? I encourage my fleetmates to participate in the forums, being as it is our main voice as players. For the record, I personally think a 6 day event is absolute overkill, despite being a 3 type hybrid and the conclusion of a Mega that the player's voted for...its like having sparklers and snakes as the grand finale of 4th of July fireworks.
However, despite DB not listening, the great majority of players will still participate and spend money & time on the event, further reinforcing their choice and eating their Trussel Sprouts.
The way to improve a product is to critique it. Blowing complement smoke in DBs face when they give us something stupid like Augment O'Brien isn't helping the product. I use to spend more than $500 a month before I became increasingly less satisfied. That isn't a lot of money.
$500 a month
Riker: "That isn't a lot of money"
Me, whose rent is 400 a month: Uh.... I sure wish I live in a financial boon like you apparently do where $500 is "not a lot"
My rent is $900/month. $500 is a lot of money to me at this stage in my life, most likely to the vast majority of the player base as well, but as was stated, entertainment budgets are relative to the individual.
There will always be people who spend lots of real money on a game--for whatever reason and justification they see fit--and that's completely okay. Many people can't because, ya know, real life stuff doesn't afford them the time or financial investment.
I completely agree that critiques by players provide valuable feedback for companies. DB has attempted to listen to forum feedback, but I think their interpretation might be skewed at times as shown by some decisions they have made. However, sometimes they have been on point with their decisions.This extended hybrid event has yet to even happen...and there are pitchforks everywhere with no justification other than "I don't wanna" or "the small segment of players who are active in the forums are generally against longer events".
While a company saying, "if you don't like it, don't play" may not be the best business tactic--it is the truth. Events are a supplementary aspect in the game with 100% voluntary participation. In fact, the entire game is voluntary. They will never, ever, make the entire player base happy. Even if they gave us a free FF legendary, there would still be people griping. If they shorten events or extend them, players will still spend money and/or participate regardless.
The way to improve a product is to critique it. Blowing complement smoke in DBs face when they give us something stupid like Augment O'Brien isn't helping the product. I use to spend more than $500 a month before I became increasingly less satisfied. That isn't a lot of money.
$500 a month
Riker: "That isn't a lot of money"
Me, whose rent is 400 a month: Uh.... I sure wish I live in a financial boon like you apparently do where $500 is "not a lot"
My rent is $900/month. $500 is a lot of money to me at this stage in my life, most likely to the vast majority of the player base as well, but as was stated, entertainment budgets are relative to the individual.
There will always be people who spend lots of real money on a game--for whatever reason and justification they see fit--and that's completely okay. Many people can't because, ya know, real life stuff doesn't afford them the time or financial investment.
I completely agree that critiques by players provide valuable feedback for companies. DB has attempted to listen to forum feedback, but I think their interpretation might be skewed at times as shown by some decisions they have made. However, sometimes they have been on point with their decisions.This extended hybrid event has yet to even happen...and there are pitchforks everywhere with no justification other than "I don't wanna" or "the small segment of players who are active in the forums are generally against longer events".
While a company saying, "if you don't like it, don't play" may not be the best business tactic--it is the truth. Events are a supplementary aspect in the game with 100% voluntary participation. In fact, the entire game is voluntary. They will never, ever, make the entire player base happy. Even if they gave us a free FF legendary, there would still be people griping. If they shorten events or extend them, players will still spend money and/or participate regardless.
One minor point of contention I have: events aren’t really a “supplementary aspect” of the game at this stage in development. They have become the main feature for both character release and story development, as well as being a primary use of player’s time over the 96 hours in which they are active. Episodes, distress calls, and cadet challenges have become little more than places to farm components and equipment to level crew, while the gauntlet and arena are the major time sinks when not in an event.
You bring up a very valid point and perhaps my word choice was inaccurate (not enough coffee when I pisted). I do agree that events have become a major aspect and essentially are the primary (and only) source of newness on a regular basis, regarding both crew and story development.
However, many people do you think actually read the narrative or care about the story telling? I do, but I like reading and am working my way through the Star Trek books. For most people it is *tap* *tap* *tap* over and over until their goal is reached, regardless of what aspect of the game their are participating in.
Even if every single post in this thread was of a player saying they won't be spending money this week (which is not the case), that would be 147 people. Out of a player base of, what, 50,000? Hardly a drop in the bucket.
If people had voted for Cardassians or Dominion, DB would probably have featured Cardassians or Dominion.
The voices on this board are loud, but they aren't unified, and they certainly don't speak for the entire player base. And if you don't like what's on offer, don't play this event. No one is forcing you to.
Exactly. As Shan has pointed out time and time again the forum consists of a small subset of the player base. Hence at best tiny relevance for the revenue. Which, while not spectacular and with some swings up and down (which is normal considering the different week themes and different interests), is stable since time (there are sites where you can check the worldwide profit). So this profit down thingie is a fairy tale.
And yes again. The vote was on Augments, not Cardassians or Dominion. So hardly surprising that they don´t feature in this mega.
Yups, many voices are loud. And some of course have valid concerns. But many simply like to be loud and enjoy complaining. They complain to complain. That is their favourite entertainment
Why give us Wednesday's off? Why not just have events going 24/7? I'd sure love to grind out a galaxy event for 7 days just to get into the top 1000 and get an unfinishable 1/5 that will waste a crew slot but not displace any 4/4s. Even better would be burning through all my voyage and all my daily generated chrons and only being able to rank high enough to get 1/3 of the 3* card and the community 4* to spend 3 citations on to finish
Wednesday at noon the new packs can come out and then Thursday the start event button can just change so we can see what rewards are when the event starts. Don't even need to change our announcement schedules.
O'Brien looks like he's about to have a brown trouser moment, and no one is getting between him and a toilet, hence the gun. Even the stilted stance is that of someone using their butt muscles to desperately shore up their wavering sphincter.
Maybe it's a weak toilet that is about to perish? Tut, tut Miles, shouldn't have reheated that Augment Kebab with extra spicy sauce!
From the vault, sorting by skill, it looks like the 5* O'Brien will have 2 skills, ENG & SEC, unsure of primary. Also, it looks like the 4* Leeta will have 3 skills, CMD DIP & SEC, unsure of primary & secondary. LLAP
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You mean like this.
Yeah, that guy.
With a big gun like that he's clearly going to be SEC primary. If he even has ENG it'll probably be his secondary skill or even more likely tertiary. I'm expecting SEC/ENG or SEC/CMD/ENG.
So just another Falcon O'Brien? I hope not. Would be better if he had CMD as his primary skill -- that would make this version more unique.
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There's no shortage of opportunities. They come up about twice a week.
Yeah, glad to see some representation of that.
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You're probably right, but remember that at least one 5* character holding a gun has no security skill at all.
I could be happy with a COM/ENG/SEC skill set - I don’t think they could get away with only two skills this time. Also, we just had a COM/SEC/ENG 5* with Captain Killy a few weeks ago and RAF O’Brien is already ENG/COM/SEC, though DB may choose to go with a skill set that works with the story rather than is balanced against similar characters.
In further support of my hope that it's not a SEC primary version of O'Brien:
Four versions of Picard carry a gun in their illustration -- Galen, Tommy Gun Dixon, Enterprise E Picard, and Mirror Picard. Only Tommy Gun Dixon is a SEC primary. Galen is SCI, Ent E Picard is DIP, and Mirror Picard is CMD.
So here's hoping!
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I was thinking about this earlier. Wondering if there were any. Nice example!
I don't find him objectively bad, just the usual cut and paste head look. He's not offensive in appearance at least lol. Leeta looks promising, so many of the basic art complaints are conpletelt style based.
So if he is threshold I could stop playing the event really early.
This is defo an area DB needs to work on. They don´t do self invented crew too often. And when they do it it would be a great chance for them to "shine". And not just pick a motive from an episode and base their "creation" on that. Or give us something like the ultimate uglyness that is 23rd Century Martok...
It’s not even DS9 as the event demands. It’s TNG. Also I kinda don’t like Leeta either. That random blue line down her nose looks really out of place. Omma still immortalize her though
Yeah, not the most glorious of choices in many ways, lol. The cuteness of Leeta/Chase Masterson kinda comes across, but as you said - that blue line is soooo out of place.
The WEEK Will Perish!
Bout a week late with that one.
It's still funny, either way.
I agree for the most part. It does seems DB has said "I don't wanna", despite the voices in the forum. Perhaps there simply isn't enough of the player base in the forums for DB to register the issues brought up? I encourage my fleetmates to participate in the forums, being as it is our main voice as players. For the record, I personally think a 6 day event is absolute overkill, despite being a 3 type hybrid and the conclusion of a Mega that the player's voted for...its like having sparklers and snakes as the grand finale of 4th of July fireworks.
However, despite DB not listening, the great majority of players will still participate and spend money & time on the event, further reinforcing their choice and eating their Trussel Sprouts.
You bring up a very valid point and perhaps my word choice was inaccurate (not enough coffee when I pisted). I do agree that events have become a major aspect and essentially are the primary (and only) source of newness on a regular basis, regarding both crew and story development.
However, many people do you think actually read the narrative or care about the story telling? I do, but I like reading and am working my way through the Star Trek books. For most people it is *tap* *tap* *tap* over and over until their goal is reached, regardless of what aspect of the game their are participating in.
We call it Jibber jabber here....:-)
Wednesday at noon the new packs can come out and then Thursday the start event button can just change so we can see what rewards are when the event starts. Don't even need to change our announcement schedules.
Maybe it's a weak toilet that is about to perish? Tut, tut Miles, shouldn't have reheated that Augment Kebab with extra spicy sauce!