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  • EtienneEtienne ✭✭✭
    WaldoMag wrote: »
    I always finish top 1000 in faction. Because of Polywaters ship abilities I decided I would go for top 15. I realized I needed more time boosts, so i bought the 4.99 offer twice. I also got 4 extra cadet tickets for Thursday when I normally only do two. I needed more time boosts and spent somewhere around 1600 dil. to get them. I have no more *** , ****, ***** time boosts left.

    I would be satisfied if they replaced my copies of Polywater with Gary Seven.
    Others, might need different compensation

    Compensations that had crossed my mind. Iconic crew with the 4000 dil. and removal of DYC Polywater replaced with some other Legendary level 60 and one item equipped. I have actually leveled my 1F Yar to 60 and had equipped the Tequila.

    So all I would be giving up is my 1F copy of Polywater.
    I would keep the 3FFE Polywater and FFFE Admiral Ross and FFFE Mirror Garak (I airlocked the FF Garak from rewards) these I got in my attempt to get Polywater from cadet offers 24.99 and 9.99

    I spent 68.95 and about 2500 dil.

    I spent like 15$ to get 2 copies of her but yeah, I'd rather have Gary Seven too lol ..he is 1. very cool and 2. way more that I can afford to spend right now (for us old ppl on a fixed income, things start to get tight around this time of the month :P) .


    So did you make it to the top 15? That's my next achievement... I am thinking it going to be awhile before I get there …. in any event , good luck.... I hope you get this resolved to your satisfaction.
  • WaldoMagWaldoMag ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2018
    Etienne wrote: »
    WaldoMag wrote: »
    I always finish top 1000 in faction. Because of Polywaters ship abilities I decided I would go for top 15. I realized I needed more time boosts, so i bought the 4.99 offer twice. I also got 4 extra cadet tickets for Thursday when I normally only do two. I needed more time boosts and spent somewhere around 1600 dil. to get them. I have no more *** , ****, ***** time boosts left.

    I would be satisfied if they replaced my copies of Polywater with Gary Seven.
    Others, might need different compensation

    Compensations that had crossed my mind. Iconic crew with the 4000 dil. and removal of DYC Polywater replaced with some other Legendary level 60 and one item equipped. I have actually leveled my 1F Yar to 60 and had equipped the Tequila.

    So all I would be giving up is my 1F copy of Polywater.
    I would keep the 3FFE Polywater and FFFE Admiral Ross and FFFE Mirror Garak (I airlocked the FF Garak from rewards) these I got in my attempt to get Polywater from cadet offers 24.99 and 9.99

    I spent 68.95 and about 2500 dil.

    I spent like 15$ to get 2 copies of her but yeah, I'd rather have Gary Seven too lol ..he is 1. very cool and 2. way more that I can afford to spend right now (for us old ppl on a fixed income, things start to get tight around this time of the month :P) .


    So did you make it to the top 15? That's my next achievement... I am thinking it going to be awhile before I get there …. in any event , good luck.... I hope you get this resolved to your satisfaction.

    I was 12th. All my shuttles were between 93-91% succcess rate withe time boosts.

    First step get around 250 3* time boosts, have some of the 4* and 5* boosts for extra push if needed. Have crew in 4000 VP with 90% or better. The more 4* and 5* time boosts you have the possibility of top 5 could happen.

    Edit:
    Forgot to mention you need to cherry pick from all factions for best shuttles to run. I ran same four shuttle missions. All were three seaters.
  • FutureImperfectaFutureImperfecta ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh I just saw the extra fun kick in the teeth.
    Yelgrun, the 4* Threshold is 3sec evade.

    COULDN'T you have just made Yars attack start at 3 or even 4 ? This is bs.

    Bye bye trust..
    Bye bye good faith.
    It was nice seeing you again for the short while you were back.
  • WaldoMagWaldoMag ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh I just saw the extra fun kick in the teeth.
    Yelgrun, the 4* Threshold is 3sec evade.

    COULDN'T you have just made Yars attack start at 3 or even 4 ? This is bs.

    Bye bye trust..
    Bye bye good faith.
    It was nice seeing you again for the short while you were back.

    I was thinking they should have made his evasion start at one second.
  • FutureImperfectaFutureImperfecta ✭✭✭✭✭
    WaldoMag wrote: »
    Oh I just saw the extra fun kick in the teeth.
    Yelgrun, the 4* Threshold is 3sec evade.

    COULDN'T you have just made Yars attack start at 3 or even 4 ? This is bs.

    Bye bye trust..
    Bye bye good faith.
    It was nice seeing you again for the short while you were back.

    I was thinking they should have made his evasion start at one second.

    If they'd left her alone that'd be fine. So now they'll either Nerf gun him next week, total crap and showing, proving Its bait switch
    Or they'll leave him and nullify any validity in nerfing her. (Breaking the battle mechanics)

    Bad move Followed by bad move.

    The only good move now is undo her Nerf
  • WaldoMagWaldoMag ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Sir Joe

    I have to agree I would rather have what I paid for then compensation.
  • Ivanstone wrote: »
    WaldoMag wrote: »
    This is illegal you just did a bait and switch.
    I spent $25 an $10 in hopes of getting her. I spent ten dollars on boosts to place in to 15. I also spent numerous dil. on boosts to stay in top 15 all for her ships ability. Iwill be sending in a ticket to customer support asking for reimbursement.

    Why is it a bait and switch? Don't recall her ever being marketed as an arena breaker or skirmish monster.

    I knew what she was after reading her space ability. That's why I wanted multiple.
  • I believe in these circumstances I am legally allowed to request a card of equal value in replacement for the one that doesn't work. I am guessing that would be Killy or Locutus. I am sending my ticket shortly.
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  • Drone_oneDrone_one ✭✭✭
    edited August 2018
    Given the silence, I am guessing DB has decided to ignore this issue. I guess they think that ignoring the AND issue worked out quiet well, so best to follow the same strategy.

    I am going to send in a ticket soon. But not too hopeful. I agree the fair compensation is either a substitute legendary (or citation) or some way to give us back all the resources put in to get Poly Yar (messy and hard to do).
  • The easiest and simplest solution is a Legendary/Gold citation for every star of Polywater Yar a player has.

    This should be the compensation for the CHANGE in the product and not as a replacement of the product.

    It essentially costs DB 'nothing' while placating the userbase.

    I've sent in a formal claim earlier and hope to hear back from them within the next few days before I escalate things.
  • PenguinJimPenguinJim ✭✭✭✭✭
    You know what it is completely fine, if they want to release an officer without testing it or making sure that said character is balanced, and then changing it a couple days after the fact, as long as they are willing to reimburse everyone who was ripped off in the process for their lack of foresight and their ineptitude. The Mirror Picard Fiasco was basically stupid and bad judgement, but this time its actual fraud and misrepresentation, and complete and Utter BS.

    Then insult to injury they send a bunch of crap ship schematics as a blanket compensation? lol I think not.

    Then you think correctly! The 100 schematics are for the Skirmish event, just like they give out some faction transmissions before Faction events.
  • WaldoMagWaldoMag ✭✭✭✭✭
    Shan wrote: »
    One last post before I disappear for a while.

    I appreciate that this thread has remained relatively civil and I hope this continues.
    Your sentiments regarding this change have been shared with the team.

    If you feel this has overly impacted you in a negative way, please submit a ticket and provide a concise request. Thank you!

    Thanks Shan
    I hope you can forget about this and also be able to relax and enjoy your break.😉
  • Cranky (SC) Cranky (SC) ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does anyone think this might all be staged in order to prevent backlash about her being too powerful in arena/skirmish?

    Step 1 - release powerful ship battle crew (PolyYar)
    Step 2 - spot backlash beginning to build in forums. Folks are not happy with tri-Yar cubes in arena.
    Step 3 - nerf her ship stats
    Step 4 - un-nerf her ship stats to keep people happy, DB: “if you really must insist!”
    Step 5 - completely avoid tri-Yar in arena complaints - DB: “well you can’t have it both ways”.
  • edited August 2018
    Drone_one wrote: »
    Given the silence, I am guessing DB has decided to ignore this issue. I guess they think that ignoring the AND issue worked out quiet well, so best to follow the same strategy.

    I am going to send in a ticket soon. But not too hopeful. I agree the fair compensation is either a substitute legendary (or citation) or some way to give us back all the resources put in to get Poly Yar (messy and hard to do).


    They wont respond here, at least other then Shran reassuring that he will forward our concerns, which is appreciated. This is a good place to vent, but your best overall is to submit a ticket.
  • Drone_one wrote: »
    Given the silence, I am guessing DB has decided to ignore this issue. I guess they think that ignoring the AND issue worked out quiet well, so best to follow the same strategy.

    I am going to send in a ticket soon. But not too hopeful. I agree the fair compensation is either a substitute legendary (or citation) or some way to give us back all the resources put in to get Poly Yar (messy and hard to do).


    They wont respond here, at least other then Shran reassuring that he will forward our concerns, which is appreciated. This is a good place to vent, but your best overall is to submit a ticket.

    See your point. Sent in the ticket. Hoping for good luck with CS RNG, otherwise it’s gonna be a long haul escalating and waiting for adequate compensation.

    I am quickly approaching the point where I think playing the game is just too aggravating and it is no longer fun.
  • this is complete **tsk tsk**!
  • Wildstar19Wildstar19 ✭✭✭✭
    I feel bad for all who got hosed on this. Me? Got ugly, snake-bodied, greasy looking, small-headed Yar twice: airlock, airlock. Spider-sense vibrated: danger.
    Hurry up before those things eat Guy!
  • Fleetmate had a reply saying tough luck basically unless they'd purchased the $100/$50 offer in which case that would be removed and swapped for equivalent dil
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  • [SSR] GTMET[SSR] GTMET ✭✭✭✭✭
    I Agreed with a prior poster in my ticket request. Either restor Yars stats or provide an alternate crew like Killy with an early burst ability.
  • Cpt. CavemanCpt. Caveman ✭✭✭✭
    Fleetmate had a reply saying tough luck basically unless they'd purchased the $100/$50 offer in which case that would be removed and swapped for equivalent dil

    They are starting to reply to tickets. It will be a roller coaster probably at least through the event
  • Vice Admiral WolffVice Admiral Wolff ✭✭✭
    edited August 2018
    The simplest way to avoid this issue would have been to release Yelgrun (or someone like him)FIRST and with more like FF Evasion +8 initializing at 1-2 seconds. It may have seemed game breaking at first, but at least it would have been a defensive not aggressive change. Tossing Yar in, as she was, after the fact would have been much more reasonable.

    As it stands, everyone that was able to obtain Yar through normal play almost certainly also has the capacity to fly Skirmishes very successfully, so let's not kid ourselves here: she wasn't going to fundamentally change that for anyone. The real knee biter here is that the AI would finally start killing off challengers in the arena because a Borg cube would be firing off 650% damage at 20 attack before anyone could do anything about it.

    The combinations she would have made possible in her original form were ludicrous. People that finally broke the wall to Top 10% were never going to get any higher because Yar wouldn't have been available, Killy's not available, and you have to go a muuuuch longer way to get Locutus.

    I took a huge sigh of relief when I read that message.

    Sorry for everyone that burned money, but even if I had it I wouldn't.
  • al103al103 ✭✭✭
    Ugh... Don't know even how to formulate ticket properly... But the only reason I spent Dil on pack with 1 crew I was 100% sure to FF was Yar...
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