With the release of Human Saru, Reunion Spock and Kirk's reign as top Voyager will last about two weeks. He comes in at almost 200 points ahead before bonuses.
With the release of Human Saru, Reunion Spock and Kirk's reign as top Voyager will last about two weeks. He comes in at almost 200 points ahead before bonuses.
I make this joke good natured-ly:
TP Powers-That-Be: Oh, you guys want power creep, THEN WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME POWER CREEP!
With the release of Human Saru, Reunion Spock and Kirk's reign as top Voyager will last about two weeks. He comes in at almost 200 points ahead before bonuses.
I make this joke good natured-ly:
TP Powers-That-Be: Oh, you guys want power creep, THEN WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME POWER CREEP!
yes, which makes the continued calls by some for more power creep to be just that much more foolish - "here, let's get a bunch of cites to finally power up the crew whose value has stayed stable for years...AND NOW MOAR BIGGER CREW"
With the release of Human Saru, Reunion Spock and Kirk's reign as top Voyager will last about two weeks. He comes in at almost 200 points ahead before bonuses.
I make this joke good natured-ly:
TP Powers-That-Be: Oh, you guys want power creep, THEN WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME POWER CREEP!
yes, which makes the continued calls by some for more power creep to be just that much more foolish - "here, let's get a bunch of cites to finally power up the crew whose value has stayed stable for years...AND NOW MOAR BIGGER CREW"
Going to ask for a double check on Human Saru's stats from Shan, please. A voyage lead that large would be a huge departure.
It reminds me of the timelines originals. People didn't like it so DB/TP stopped. Then you started bringing it up with Ben and we got Chekov. People didn't like power creep so it slowed down. Then some people started to complain here about lack of power creep and now we get power creep on steroids.
I really hope that this card stays with those stats. It is great to get a card that I both want to own and want to play! For a long time Braxton, Gary Seven and Burnham were in a league of their own with a spread in the hundreds between even Braxton and Burnham. If this new Saru is the new Braxton he will be a peg ahead that they will backfill with characters going forward.
To be honest I'm not even sure that 200 points is enough. Braxton has been in the lead for so long that the counterfactual of regular envelope pushing over two years would likely have us a lot higher if it had been done correctly. I'm still salty that in recent memory they have released unplayable cards that I want to own (but what's the point in getting cards if you will never use them).
Why reviewing stats?
You guys don t want regular 12h voyages? 😩
DB/TP hadn t don t much and not even regular/constant power creep
over the past years, so i see the new Saru as the new Professor Sato, that came out 3 years ago and had a huge DIPbase lead over 2nd. Now Saru has as much of a lead on voyages stats over 2nd. Don t see any issue here.🤗
It will make TP BIG MONEY and a huge revenue increase on event packs and offers.🙂
EDIT: If stats gets nerfed, you‘ll lose „some“ bucks(for event packs)
from me(and others)
Going to ask for a double check on Human Saru's stats from Shan, please. A voyage lead that large would be a huge departure.
It reminds me of the timelines originals. People didn't like it so DB/TP stopped. Then you started bringing it up with Ben and we got Chekov. People didn't like power creep so it slowed down. Then some people started to complain here about lack of power creep and now we get power creep on steroids.
I mean it's good that they are listening I guess. This does feel a little dramatic as if they want to stoke a rebellion though. I still solidly believe that this is a good move, though I would have preferred to see 10 cards go up by 20 each, if only so that there would have been 10 cards worth hunting down and this would have increased the chances that everyone will get cards that they both like and use.
Guess i remember when Professer Sato came out with 1500+ Dip and 2nd best had 1200+ only, some ppl complained as well. Gladly stats wasn t changed/nerfed.
I really hope that this card stays with those stats. It is great to get a card that I both want to own and want to play! For a long time Braxton, Gary Seven and Burnham were in a league of their own with a spread in the hundreds between even Braxton and Burnham.
With just 10% starbase bonuses Gary released 56 points ahead of FOB. Braxton released 35 points ahead of Gary. Saru is 202 points ahead of Braxton. Definitely the biggest leap since Voyages have been in game. There's precedent with base crew like Sato, Tribble, Culber, Bones, but this would be the first time for such a large voyage gap.
Not speaking to whether it's good or bad, would just like to make sure the stats are correct.
I’m good with the stats and am glad Shan is double-checking. The last thing we need is a last second stats change (or worse a post event stats change).
Keeping things in perspective (and making sure my joke is given proper framing), I am reminded of Spock and Valeris' exchange in Undiscovered Country:
SPOCK: History is replete with turning points, Lieutenant. You must have faith.
VALERIS: Faith?
SPOCK: That the universe will unfold as it should.
VALERIS: But is this logical? Surely we must...
SPOCK: Logic? ...Logic is the beginning of wisdom, Valeris, not the end.
I'm taking a zen approach to power creep: it will happen and the cits I've used in the last few months (for both my Braxton and RS&K) were not wasted because I will continue to have good, strong crew. I would encourage everyone to think along similar lines.
Though I would say I'd like a break or two from the bloodbath events...
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Arne Darvin's assumed persona from "Trials and Tribble-ations"
Step 2: Announce event
Step 3: Add event to event hub
Step 4: Add new event crew to game
As it stands we are at step 3.
I make this joke good natured-ly:
TP Powers-That-Be: Oh, you guys want power creep, THEN WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME POWER CREEP!
yes, which makes the continued calls by some for more power creep to be just that much more foolish - "here, let's get a bunch of cites to finally power up the crew whose value has stayed stable for years...AND NOW MOAR BIGGER CREW"
ahem - thanks as always for the info Shan!
At least I know to save four cites for Mr. Saru
You forgot some steps...
Step 5: Space Underpants
Step 6: Reverse the polarity of the ???
Step 7: Profit
DIP Base stats) and Waddle is great as well.
Warp particles.
It reminds me of the timelines originals. People didn't like it so DB/TP stopped. Then you started bringing it up with Ben and we got Chekov. People didn't like power creep so it slowed down. Then some people started to complain here about lack of power creep and now we get power creep on steroids.
To be honest I'm not even sure that 200 points is enough. Braxton has been in the lead for so long that the counterfactual of regular envelope pushing over two years would likely have us a lot higher if it had been done correctly. I'm still salty that in recent memory they have released unplayable cards that I want to own (but what's the point in getting cards if you will never use them).
Save your citations folks!
You guys don t want regular 12h voyages? 😩
DB/TP hadn t don t much and not even regular/constant power creep
over the past years, so i see the new Saru as the new Professor Sato, that came out 3 years ago and had a huge DIPbase lead over 2nd. Now Saru has as much of a lead on voyages stats over 2nd. Don t see any issue here.🤗
It will make TP BIG MONEY and a huge revenue increase on event packs and offers.🙂
EDIT: If stats gets nerfed, you‘ll lose „some“ bucks(for event packs)
from me(and others)
I mean it's good that they are listening I guess. This does feel a little dramatic as if they want to stoke a rebellion though. I still solidly believe that this is a good move, though I would have preferred to see 10 cards go up by 20 each, if only so that there would have been 10 cards worth hunting down and this would have increased the chances that everyone will get cards that they both like and use.
Really? There goes my excitement 😩
Guess i remember when Professer Sato came out with 1500+ Dip and 2nd best had 1200+ only, some ppl complained as well. Gladly stats wasn t changed/nerfed.
With just 10% starbase bonuses Gary released 56 points ahead of FOB. Braxton released 35 points ahead of Gary. Saru is 202 points ahead of Braxton. Definitely the biggest leap since Voyages have been in game. There's precedent with base crew like Sato, Tribble, Culber, Bones, but this would be the first time for such a large voyage gap.
Not speaking to whether it's good or bad, would just like to make sure the stats are correct.
We’ll get the guys in engineering right on that!
In Engineering is a thread about the problem. Always when they add new crew they appear and disappear out of vault. Fixes the day after.
https://forum.disruptorbeam.com/stt/discussion/17607/after-adding-new-crew-vault-count-switches-between-edit-1009-and-1-011-back-and-forth#latest
SPOCK: History is replete with turning points, Lieutenant. You must have faith.
VALERIS: Faith?
SPOCK: That the universe will unfold as it should.
VALERIS: But is this logical? Surely we must...
SPOCK: Logic? ...Logic is the beginning of wisdom, Valeris, not the end.
I'm taking a zen approach to power creep: it will happen and the cits I've used in the last few months (for both my Braxton and RS&K) were not wasted because I will continue to have good, strong crew. I would encourage everyone to think along similar lines.
Though I would say I'd like a break or two from the bloodbath events...
Looks to me like Sato still has #1 base diplomacy
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i’ll continue to cause trouble, you just won’t be able to see it
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Played since January 2017
TP: Do better!!!
Now we know who to blame if Human Saru gets nerfed.
haha! Umm, oh ya, nevermind