Reunion Spock and Kirk in Elusive Treasures?!

[Deleted User]

As far as I recall, this card was only available by combining two. Now it is available as an 'Elusive Treasure'?

What gives?

KPan [ISA]

Both crew needed for the fusion are available in the pack.

[Deleted User]

KPan [ISA] wrote: »

Both crew needed for the fusion are available in the pack.

And the actual card according to the list.

Kanon

You are correct, is that common practice? Has any of the fusion characters been on portal pulls?

AviTrek

No, and I'm not sure which is a more likely mistake here, the card was included in the pack when it shouldn't have been, or the card is not in the pack but was included in the text and image when it shouldn't have been.

robownage

It's not common practice, so I assume it's a mistake in the list and hopefully not in the release. I believe something similar happened with Quinn a few updates ago.

@Shan ?

Kanon

AviTrek wrote: »

No, and I'm not sure which is a more likely mistake here, the card was included in the pack when it shouldn't have been, or the card is not in the pack but was included in the text and image when it shouldn't have been.

The art, could be overlooked (maybe they represent Anxious Kirk and FTP Spcok, if you are feeling generous...) but RSK Spock is on the possible crew list

Shan

I will inquire.

Jurist

Captain Tribble, the newest Honor Hall crew, is also on the list. I do not recall if this has been done in the past, but Honor Hall exclusives are usually just that...exclusive to the Honor Hall, full stop.

Shan

Update:
- Captain Tribble is not part of Elusive Treasures, the info text for Elusive Treasures does not mention that crew, unfortunately the list that is part of our messaging contains an error. I've corrected it where I could.

- Reunion Kirk and Spock IS part of Elusive Treasures. I understand that this is a departure from what we've done before. Your feedback is welcome and will be relayed to the team.

robownage

Shan wrote: »

Update:
- Captain Tribble is not part of Elusive Treasures, the info text for Elusive Treasures does not mention that crew, unfortunately the list that is part of our messaging contains an error. I've corrected it where I could.

- Reunion Kirk and Spock IS part of Elusive Treasures. I understand that this is a departure from what we've done before. Your feedback is welcome and will be relayed to the team.

Consider this feedback that the decision making process that led to included RKS in this is pisspoor, ranking not too far behind the process that led to Mirror Picardgate.

Mirror Cartman

I don't have the RKO double feature yet, but I think that this just is not on.

KPan [ISA]

So... this upsets me.
I competed very heavily in the event to aquire Spock, and bought a LOT of the Kirk 6-packs to make the fusion with costly dilithium.
I do not regret the dilithium spent and the effort put into the event, as I knew this is what a new and very desirable fusion crew would require.
Now the finished product is offered within this ET pack?? I understand that this still costs dilithium, but no effort is now needed.
Does this mean that Reunion Kirk and Spock will enter the portal in the next update as a single card? Or will it again be fusion only.
I find this a bit insulting to the people who put in time, effort and money to earn this special card.
The person who made this decision was in the wrong.

Sulu's Husband

KPan [ISA] wrote: »

So... this upsets me.
I competed very heavily in the event to aquire Spock, and bought a LOT of the Kirk 6-packs to make the fusion with costly dilithium.
I do not regret the dilithium spent and the effort put into the event, as I knew this is what a new and very desirable fusion crew would require.
Now the finished product is offered within this ET pack?? I understand that this still costs dilithium, but no effort is now needed.
Does this mean that Reunion Kirk and Spock will enter the portal in the next update as a single card? Or will it again be fusion only.
I find this a bit insulting to the people who put in time, effort and money to earn this special card.
The person who made this decision was in the wrong.

Agreed. I think it was done in error and they don't want to correct it. People put a lot of time and resources into fusing two characters, even the Bynars 010101001001010010100101001001

DScottHewitt

Sulu's Husband wrote: »

KPan [ISA] wrote: »

So... this upsets me.
I competed very heavily in the event to aquire Spock, and bought a LOT of the Kirk 6-packs to make the fusion with costly dilithium.
I do not regret the dilithium spent and the effort put into the event, as I knew this is what a new and very desirable fusion crew would require.
Now the finished product is offered within this ET pack?? I understand that this still costs dilithium, but no effort is now needed.
Does this mean that Reunion Kirk and Spock will enter the portal in the next update as a single card? Or will it again be fusion only.
I find this a bit insulting to the people who put in time, effort and money to earn this special card.
The person who made this decision was in the wrong.

Agreed. I think it was done in error and they don't want to correct it. People put a lot of time and resources into fusing two characters, even the Bynars 010101001001010010100101001001

I believe after all these years of putting out a mistake free game, we can excuse one error.....

Kanon

I feel cheated, as other have said, I worked hard to get FTP Spock, and spent a lot of dillithium to get Anxious Kirk. Furthermore, I spent money in the "double your crew" offer, so I could have 2 spocks, one for keeps, the other to merge to make RSK. I seriously feel cheated out of my money, I wouldn't have done it I knew the card would be available so soon (and potentially in the portal already merged in the near future)

[Deleted User]

Shan wrote: »

Update:
- Captain Tribble is not part of Elusive Treasures, the info text for Elusive Treasures does not mention that crew, unfortunately the list that is part of our messaging contains an error. I've corrected it where I could.

- Reunion Kirk and Spock IS part of Elusive Treasures. I understand that this is a departure from what we've done before. Your feedback is welcome and will be relayed to the team.

Are you willing to give us the separate cards that we sacrificed to fuse in order to get this card? Or the citations we used in good faith? Or the money back for the DYC? Or the dilithium spent to find Kirk?

This is an absolute change of the goalposts after the rules have been drawn up and the game started.

Dressing a mistake up as 'trying something new' doesn't wash either. Shall I just stop playing Gauntlet now because Balok will show up in the portal one day? You and I both know it won't so let's not act stupid.

Trollita

My thinking is the chances are quite rare. I obtained a Spock, but that ONE TIME Anxious Kirk came up in a miserable six pack I said to myself, “Na. Surely they’ll make him available another way soon. Spock was an event reward and also obtainable for sometime in packs.” NOPE!!! So here I’ve been, sitting on this poor lonely Spock. Today I tried my luck at the Elusive Treasures, hoping at least for an Anxious Kirk. What did I get? Another Spock.

W.W. Carlisle

Some of the others in the art aren't in the pack. They were added to the Portal.
*Nona
*Kivas Fajo
*Ambassador V'Lar
*Altan Soong
*Breen Disguise Kira
The ENTIRE back row is not in the pack. They are in the portal and are confirmed as being in the portal already.

Trollita

I am so seriously confused. I thought Kira was in the packs. She’s the main reason I bought them, her and Anxious Kirk or a possible Spork. Kira was not one of the guarantees in the pool? I understood I could retrieve her but an increased chance of getting her pushed me over the decision making line here. The first packs I bought it turns out there was a typo in the text and those had no guaranteed crew. (Something they have since addressed and offered a refund for.) Now the art is wrong? I’ve pulled everything and fused or whatever, so it’s too late for me to petition for any kind of a refund if this is the case. It would be too confusing/too much trouble. I should have just stuck with the regular portal pulls!

~peregrine~

Shan wrote: »

Update:
- Captain Tribble is not part of Elusive Treasures, the info text for Elusive Treasures does not mention that crew, unfortunately the list that is part of our messaging contains an error. I've corrected it where I could.

- Reunion Kirk and Spock IS part of Elusive Treasures. I understand that this is a departure from what we've done before. Your feedback is welcome and will be relayed to the team.

Here is some feedback for you and your teammates, @Shan :

Stop doing stupid stuff like this.

Churning your playerbase for the sake of maximizing LTV doesn’t really fit the ethos of Star Trek, now does it? Unfortunately, your pattern of poor decisions stretches back for years, and I am unsure if y’all are willing or even able to change at this point. I sure hope so, though. 🖖

Myimaginary

Shan wrote: »

Update:
- Captain Tribble is not part of Elusive Treasures, the info text for Elusive Treasures does not mention that crew, unfortunately the list that is part of our messaging contains an error. I've corrected it where I could.

- Reunion Kirk and Spock IS part of Elusive Treasures. I understand that this is a departure from what we've done before. Your feedback is welcome and will be relayed to the team.

I don't like it at all. I spent a lot of Dilithium to get a copy of Kirk (I was very unlucky with the pulls) and ended up spending actual money on Spock. If I had known I could've just got RKS from a pull a few months later I wouldn't have bothered at all. I feel cheated.

Zombie Squirrel

As someone who used quite a bunch of resources to get this….

Fused crew never been(but hey the game is only 5 years+)
and never should be available in any packs.

*just shaking my head* 😑

Warrior Willo

Myimaginary wrote: »

Shan wrote: »

Update:
- Captain Tribble is not part of Elusive Treasures, the info text for Elusive Treasures does not mention that crew, unfortunately the list that is part of our messaging contains an error. I've corrected it where I could.

- Reunion Kirk and Spock IS part of Elusive Treasures. I understand that this is a departure from what we've done before. Your feedback is welcome and will be relayed to the team.

I don't like it at all. I spent a lot of Dilithium to get a copy of Kirk (I was very unlucky with the pulls) and ended up spending actual money on Spock. If I had known I could've just got RKS from a pull a few months later I wouldn't have bothered at all. I feel cheated.

Whilst I don’t agree with adding fusion crew to these packs, I suspect you would spend a lot more dilithium trying to score RKS through Elusive Treasures unless you were very lucky.

Myimaginary

Warrior Willo wrote: »

Myimaginary wrote: »

Shan wrote: »

Update:
- Captain Tribble is not part of Elusive Treasures, the info text for Elusive Treasures does not mention that crew, unfortunately the list that is part of our messaging contains an error. I've corrected it where I could.

- Reunion Kirk and Spock IS part of Elusive Treasures. I understand that this is a departure from what we've done before. Your feedback is welcome and will be relayed to the team.

I don't like it at all. I spent a lot of Dilithium to get a copy of Kirk (I was very unlucky with the pulls) and ended up spending actual money on Spock. If I had known I could've just got RKS from a pull a few months later I wouldn't have bothered at all. I feel cheated.

Whilst I don’t agree with adding fusion crew to these packs, I suspect you would spend a lot more dilithium trying to score RKS through Elusive Treasures unless you were very lucky.

Fair enough. But part of why I was willing to spend both Dilithium and actual money (and citations) is the exclusivity of the card. If they just end up in regular packs later anyway why bother?

guest_1386873540905984

This is outrageous. First they overly monetize the acquisition of reunion spock and kirk with the requirement to purchase six packs for 650 dilithium. A bunch of people were upset about that on these forums but then the fan people kept saying "oh but its exclusive and its a tier 1 so its worth it"

so i competed my butt off and got spock and dumped 3k dilithium before i got kirk. I used honor to get the cites to fuse and during the honor sale i finished him out since i "knew" there would never be a better way to immortalize.

Then fast forward a few short months and wrg decides to "try something new" and introduce a fuse card as a card that can show up in elusive treasures. What a disgrace.

These guys are only after money. they are trying to milk the player base dry. look at the offers that they have available right now! 99$!!!!! what the actual heck?? not to mention that the offers were extremely predatory in the wording when initially released, also when initially revised, and even now are slightly confusing to people who dont understand pack mechanics.

This crew of flunkies has gone too far and they are stirring the pot with the limited player base that survived the offer wall, adira gate, ban gate, and now divorced spock and kirk gate.

I am tired of this. These guys have not gotten my money for quite some time now, but at this point I am actively encouraging everyone i know that plays the game to run away far and fast.

guest_1386873540905984

Warrior Willo wrote: »

Myimaginary wrote: »

Shan wrote: »

Update:
- Captain Tribble is not part of Elusive Treasures, the info text for Elusive Treasures does not mention that crew, unfortunately the list that is part of our messaging contains an error. I've corrected it where I could.

- Reunion Kirk and Spock IS part of Elusive Treasures. I understand that this is a departure from what we've done before. Your feedback is welcome and will be relayed to the team.

I don't like it at all. I spent a lot of Dilithium to get a copy of Kirk (I was very unlucky with the pulls) and ended up spending actual money on Spock. If I had known I could've just got RKS from a pull a few months later I wouldn't have bothered at all. I feel cheated.

Whilst I don’t agree with adding fusion crew to these packs, I suspect you would spend a lot more dilithium trying to score RKS through Elusive Treasures unless you were very lucky.

hey good job of diluting the errors that this company is making. I am sure that they thoroughly enjoy having people such as yourself to blindly defend them.

Kanon

I feel like I have been conned. What should I do? I would really like the publishers/managers/developers would answer to me, what should I do?

Trollita

Kanon wrote: »

I feel like I have been conned. What should I do? I would really like the publishers/managers/developers would answer to me, what should I do?

Well for starters, they should have made good on their poorly-worded packs for the people who purchased them. That’s called a bait and switch, intentional or not. Apple does not take kindly to such. If not that they should have at least immediately issued no-questions asked refunds instead of sending out an in-game message telling players to “ask for their money back if they want it.” Speaking of bait and switch, I think a bait and switch argument could be made for the incorrect art featured on the more expensive packs that led players like me to believe they could receive something they could not.

I’m open to ideas on what can be done about the Reunion Spock. Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think there was ever any in-game wording implying those were extra-special releases that were not going to be obtainable with a lever pull a few months later.

[G5618] Taibak

Sometimes I have the impression that the right hand does not know what the left hand is doing. With all the joy about the Celestial market and favor, immediately appears another misstep or wrong decision. I have - like others - worked hard for the fusion and spent quite a bit of dilithium. And now, RKS is part of Elusive Treasures? Bad feeling.

Paladin 27

Well I'll come out of silence for this thread.

Probably not the best decision to add in Reunion Kirk and Spock to the pool, since it hasn't been done with any fusion crew before.

But in the realm of crew devaluation (and I'm an expert in this with pulling for Tuesday 6 packs golds only to see them in $9.99 offers or campaigns a couple months later), having something be in a huge pool of crew in elusive treasures isn't exactly making it easy to obtain. In fact, if you are trying to get specifically get Reunion Kirk and Spock it will cost you much more in elusive treasures than it did to get the individual cards before.