I understand the reasoning of bypassing the 3rd party fees and getting more from purchases, but imo you just destroyed the integrity and the reason for playing this game as it was meant. Rankings just lost all meaning and has become pay to get reward. This was a horrible decision and one that will ultimately change the enjoyment of this game for the long timers. You just minimized all our hard accomplishments with this. Not trying to be mean but just giving my criticism and opinion.
If the third parties are taking 30%, might have been better player good will to sell items directly from their store, but marked down 15%. They still get back half of what third party services were taking, and the 15% lower price would encourage buying.
EXAMPLE: Buying a $10 item from third party, they get $7 and third party gets $3.
Direct sell: Sell Item for $8.50. They get $8.50 straight up and the player pays $8.50, saving $1.50.
I think they are talking about the ability to bulk buy chrons, 62,500 at a time
I sincerely doubt that the third parties are only taking 30% for one thing out of all the stuff they sell. That is what I was talking about.
I agree with you there: the 3rd parties are getting their cut no matter what. So is Paramount/CBS.
The ability for people to bulk buy dil and chrons runs the risk of breaking events. People who take the time to gather resources have a much higher risk of seeing their work be undermined by someone who’s willing to spend their life savings on. That was Gandozer’s complaint and what Princess Uhura was responding to.
I never said my feelings one way or another on the "Buy to Win" dynamic they introduced. But, the cut WAS mentioned in the post I quoted. And clearly what I was addressing. Multiple people trying to steer my comment into something else does not change what I was commenting on.
My apologies if my post seemed to be putting words in your mouth. That was not my i tention.
That being said, i think that wrg is just trying to make a few extra bucks without players spending more, with one big exception, the ability to bulk buy chrons and dilithium will break events and make them all p2w.
We can argue that shuttle events are already p2w, but that dosnt make it any more palatable. So, anyhow someone else mentioned that while the events and ofher bugs have been happening in recent weeks, this store is what they were working on, and i think that is proabably accurare. I doubt that there are more than 10 people dedicated to solely working on this game. Seems like any new “feature” is an all hands on deck thing.
This won't break skirmish and Galaxy events because they're not limited by resources now.
I don't think you realize how different late game play is from where you are. Players have more chrons than they know what to do with. They have hundreds to thousands of each galaxy item.
When players talk about winning these events the conversation is not how many chrons you need. It's how little sleep you can get. It's playing while going to the bathroom. If you're thinking about buying chrons for a skirmish event you've already lost.
If WRG wanted to break the event they would add a paid bot. Pay X to let the ai play for you for Y hours. That would make skirmishes and galaxies p2w. Anything short of that is not going to change the top of the leaderboard.
As a side note, the campaign unlock costs 23 something USD, with conversion fees from my country that's, 114,92 RON = 24,19 USD (Romanian currency) , buying the same thing via Google Play is 119,99 RON = 25,26USD , and buying via Huawei Store is 104.99 RON = 22.11 USD. For reference 1USD= 4.75 RON
I understand the reasoning of bypassing the 3rd party fees and getting more from purchases, but imo you just destroyed the integrity and the reason for playing this game as it was meant. Rankings just lost all meaning and has become pay to get reward. This was a horrible decision and one that will ultimately change the enjoyment of this game for the long timers. You just minimized all our hard accomplishments with this. Not trying to be mean but just giving my criticism and opinion.
If the third parties are taking 30%, might have been better player good will to sell items directly from their store, but marked down 15%. They still get back half of what third party services were taking, and the 15% lower price would encourage buying.
EXAMPLE: Buying a $10 item from third party, they get $7 and third party gets $3.
Direct sell: Sell Item for $8.50. They get $8.50 straight up and the player pays $8.50, saving $1.50.
I think they are talking about the ability to bulk buy chrons, 62,500 at a time
I sincerely doubt that the third parties are only taking 30% for one thing out of all the stuff they sell. That is what I was talking about.
I agree with you there: the 3rd parties are getting their cut no matter what. So is Paramount/CBS.
The ability for people to bulk buy dil and chrons runs the risk of breaking events. People who take the time to gather resources have a much higher risk of seeing their work be undermined by someone who’s willing to spend their life savings on. That was Gandozer’s complaint and what Princess Uhura was responding to.
I never said my feelings one way or another on the "Buy to Win" dynamic they introduced. But, the cut WAS mentioned in the post I quoted. And clearly what I was addressing. Multiple people trying to steer my comment into something else does not change what I was commenting on.
My apologies if my post seemed to be putting words in your mouth. That was not my i tention.
That being said, i think that wrg is just trying to make a few extra bucks without players spending more, with one big exception, the ability to bulk buy chrons and dilithium will break events and make them all p2w.
We can argue that shuttle events are already p2w, but that dosnt make it any more palatable. So, anyhow someone else mentioned that while the events and ofher bugs have been happening in recent weeks, this store is what they were working on, and i think that is proabably accurare. I doubt that there are more than 10 people dedicated to solely working on this game. Seems like any new “feature” is an all hands on deck thing.
This won't break skirmish and Galaxy events because they're not limited by resources now.
I don't think you realize how different late game play is from where you are. Players have more chrons than they know what to do with. They have hundreds to thousands of each galaxy item.
When players talk about winning these events the conversation is not how many chrons you need. It's how little sleep you can get. It's playing while going to the bathroom. If you're thinking about buying chrons for a skirmish event you've already lost.
If WRG wanted to break the event they would add a paid bot. Pay X to let the ai play for you for Y hours. That would make skirmishes and galaxies p2w. Anything short of that is not going to change the top of the leaderboard.
You really think there are no bots(auto tap programs) used for skirmishes
and galaxies, anymore?
I understand the reasoning of bypassing the 3rd party fees and getting more from purchases, but imo you just destroyed the integrity and the reason for playing this game as it was meant. Rankings just lost all meaning and has become pay to get reward. This was a horrible decision and one that will ultimately change the enjoyment of this game for the long timers. You just minimized all our hard accomplishments with this. Not trying to be mean but just giving my criticism and opinion.
If the third parties are taking 30%, might have been better player good will to sell items directly from their store, but marked down 15%. They still get back half of what third party services were taking, and the 15% lower price would encourage buying.
EXAMPLE: Buying a $10 item from third party, they get $7 and third party gets $3.
Direct sell: Sell Item for $8.50. They get $8.50 straight up and the player pays $8.50, saving $1.50.
I think they are talking about the ability to bulk buy chrons, 62,500 at a time
I sincerely doubt that the third parties are only taking 30% for one thing out of all the stuff they sell. That is what I was talking about.
I agree with you there: the 3rd parties are getting their cut no matter what. So is Paramount/CBS.
The ability for people to bulk buy dil and chrons runs the risk of breaking events. People who take the time to gather resources have a much higher risk of seeing their work be undermined by someone who’s willing to spend their life savings on. That was Gandozer’s complaint and what Princess Uhura was responding to.
I never said my feelings one way or another on the "Buy to Win" dynamic they introduced. But, the cut WAS mentioned in the post I quoted. And clearly what I was addressing. Multiple people trying to steer my comment into something else does not change what I was commenting on.
My apologies if my post seemed to be putting words in your mouth. That was not my i tention.
That being said, i think that wrg is just trying to make a few extra bucks without players spending more, with one big exception, the ability to bulk buy chrons and dilithium will break events and make them all p2w.
We can argue that shuttle events are already p2w, but that dosnt make it any more palatable. So, anyhow someone else mentioned that while the events and ofher bugs have been happening in recent weeks, this store is what they were working on, and i think that is proabably accurare. I doubt that there are more than 10 people dedicated to solely working on this game. Seems like any new “feature” is an all hands on deck thing.
This won't break skirmish and Galaxy events because they're not limited by resources now.
I don't think you realize how different late game play is from where you are. Players have more chrons than they know what to do with. They have hundreds to thousands of each galaxy item.
When players talk about winning these events the conversation is not how many chrons you need. It's how little sleep you can get. It's playing while going to the bathroom. If you're thinking about buying chrons for a skirmish event you've already lost.
If WRG wanted to break the event they would add a paid bot. Pay X to let the ai play for you for Y hours. That would make skirmishes and galaxies p2w. Anything short of that is not going to change the top of the leaderboard.
You really think there are no bots(auto tap programs) used for skirmishes
and galaxies, anymore?
I'm sure there are some. But I hope it's a limited number. If WRG introduced a bot into the game, there would be a lot more and they would monetize it even more.
I understand the reasoning of bypassing the 3rd party fees and getting more from purchases, but imo you just destroyed the integrity and the reason for playing this game as it was meant. Rankings just lost all meaning and has become pay to get reward. This was a horrible decision and one that will ultimately change the enjoyment of this game for the long timers. You just minimized all our hard accomplishments with this. Not trying to be mean but just giving my criticism and opinion.
If the third parties are taking 30%, might have been better player good will to sell items directly from their store, but marked down 15%. They still get back half of what third party services were taking, and the 15% lower price would encourage buying.
EXAMPLE: Buying a $10 item from third party, they get $7 and third party gets $3.
Direct sell: Sell Item for $8.50. They get $8.50 straight up and the player pays $8.50, saving $1.50.
I think they are talking about the ability to bulk buy chrons, 62,500 at a time
I sincerely doubt that the third parties are only taking 30% for one thing out of all the stuff they sell. That is what I was talking about.
I agree with you there: the 3rd parties are getting their cut no matter what. So is Paramount/CBS.
The ability for people to bulk buy dil and chrons runs the risk of breaking events. People who take the time to gather resources have a much higher risk of seeing their work be undermined by someone who’s willing to spend their life savings on. That was Gandozer’s complaint and what Princess Uhura was responding to.
I never said my feelings one way or another on the "Buy to Win" dynamic they introduced. But, the cut WAS mentioned in the post I quoted. And clearly what I was addressing. Multiple people trying to steer my comment into something else does not change what I was commenting on.
My apologies if my post seemed to be putting words in your mouth. That was not my i tention.
That being said, i think that wrg is just trying to make a few extra bucks without players spending more, with one big exception, the ability to bulk buy chrons and dilithium will break events and make them all p2w.
We can argue that shuttle events are already p2w, but that dosnt make it any more palatable. So, anyhow someone else mentioned that while the events and ofher bugs have been happening in recent weeks, this store is what they were working on, and i think that is proabably accurare. I doubt that there are more than 10 people dedicated to solely working on this game. Seems like any new “feature” is an all hands on deck thing.
This won't break skirmish and Galaxy events because they're not limited by resources now.
I don't think you realize how different late game play is from where you are. Players have more chrons than they know what to do with. They have hundreds to thousands of each galaxy item.
When players talk about winning these events the conversation is not how many chrons you need. It's how little sleep you can get. It's playing while going to the bathroom. If you're thinking about buying chrons for a skirmish event you've already lost.
If WRG wanted to break the event they would add a paid bot. Pay X to let the ai play for you for Y hours. That would make skirmishes and galaxies p2w. Anything short of that is not going to change the top of the leaderboard.
The purchases during an event don’t worry me as much as purchases in the days leading up to an event. Let’s say on Tuesday of a week leading up to a skirmish, I have 3k chrons. I find out that I can take the rest of the week off and the card looks really good. Now I can buy hundreds of thousands of chrons (for a lot of money) to chase the event win. Knowing that this is an option makes chasing a win more nerve-wracking and risky. It actually makes me less willing to chase higher ranks, because I’m less certain that I can make it due to someone being wealthier or making poorer choices than me.
@Shan will the campaign track purchase at a discount happen this month? In other words, should we wait to purchase until it gets discounted in the store, or will it not go live till next month
Yes, the discount for the campaign Ultimate track starts with the new campaign.
It was visible on the webstore
To be fair to GTMET, they asked before Reset, and it went live with the new Campaign. The announcement only said it was "Not yet live".
I was referring to the fact that, upon launch and prior to the daily reset, the webstore was showing that the Pride Campaign Ultimate Track was going to be available
I was not referring to our in-game mail/forum announcement ;p
I understand the reasoning of bypassing the 3rd party fees and getting more from purchases, but imo you just destroyed the integrity and the reason for playing this game as it was meant. Rankings just lost all meaning and has become pay to get reward. This was a horrible decision and one that will ultimately change the enjoyment of this game for the long timers. You just minimized all our hard accomplishments with this. Not trying to be mean but just giving my criticism and opinion.
If the third parties are taking 30%, might have been better player good will to sell items directly from their store, but marked down 15%. They still get back half of what third party services were taking, and the 15% lower price would encourage buying.
EXAMPLE: Buying a $10 item from third party, they get $7 and third party gets $3.
Direct sell: Sell Item for $8.50. They get $8.50 straight up and the player pays $8.50, saving $1.50.
I think they are talking about the ability to bulk buy chrons, 62,500 at a time
I sincerely doubt that the third parties are only taking 30% for one thing out of all the stuff they sell. That is what I was talking about.
I agree with you there: the 3rd parties are getting their cut no matter what. So is Paramount/CBS.
The ability for people to bulk buy dil and chrons runs the risk of breaking events. People who take the time to gather resources have a much higher risk of seeing their work be undermined by someone who’s willing to spend their life savings on. That was Gandozer’s complaint and what Princess Uhura was responding to.
I never said my feelings one way or another on the "Buy to Win" dynamic they introduced. But, the cut WAS mentioned in the post I quoted. And clearly what I was addressing. Multiple people trying to steer my comment into something else does not change what I was commenting on.
My apologies if my post seemed to be putting words in your mouth. That was not my i tention.
That being said, i think that wrg is just trying to make a few extra bucks without players spending more, with one big exception, the ability to bulk buy chrons and dilithium will break events and make them all p2w.
We can argue that shuttle events are already p2w, but that dosnt make it any more palatable. So, anyhow someone else mentioned that while the events and ofher bugs have been happening in recent weeks, this store is what they were working on, and i think that is proabably accurare. I doubt that there are more than 10 people dedicated to solely working on this game. Seems like any new “feature” is an all hands on deck thing.
This won't break skirmish and Galaxy events because they're not limited by resources now.
I don't think you realize how different late game play is from where you are. Players have more chrons than they know what to do with. They have hundreds to thousands of each galaxy item.
When players talk about winning these events the conversation is not how many chrons you need. It's how little sleep you can get. It's playing while going to the bathroom. If you're thinking about buying chrons for a skirmish event you've already lost.
If WRG wanted to break the event they would add a paid bot. Pay X to let the ai play for you for Y hours. That would make skirmishes and galaxies p2w. Anything short of that is not going to change the top of the leaderboard.
The purchases during an event don’t worry me as much as purchases in the days leading up to an event. Let’s say on Tuesday of a week leading up to a skirmish, I have 3k chrons. I find out that I can take the rest of the week off and the card looks really good. Now I can buy hundreds of thousands of chrons (for a lot of money) to chase the event win. Knowing that this is an option makes chasing a win more nerve-wracking and risky. It actually makes me less willing to chase higher ranks, because I’m less certain that I can make it due to someone being wealthier or making poorer choices than me.
I think it's probably helpful to delineate between competing to actually win an event and competing with the intent to rank as high as possible. If we're to entertain abstract concerns of further imbalances to the player base, I would argue the additional loot those players are going to rack up along the way (honor, chronitons, credits, to say nothing of farming stockpiles) stands to have a greater impact than the outcome of the Skirmish itself. But this is all fairly esoteric anyway because, as has been noted, things have already been out of whack on such a scale for so long.
@Shan will the campaign track purchase at a discount happen this month? In other words, should we wait to purchase until it gets discounted in the store, or will it not go live till next month
Enjoy the discount of 1,24 $ 🤗
It will cost me more from the WRG store, than from Amazon.
Currently £18.60 from Amazon, and £19.66 from the WRG store. If I used Amazon coins I could save even more. On Google Play it is £22.99
Where is it on amazon?
Every time I had to make a purchase I had to take out my fossil laptop & purchase through FB as it was way more expensive to purchase through game via google
That was until I installed the game through galaxy store instead of play store.
But now I do have a £10 -or $ can't remember - so will have to reinstall the game to cash that in
@Shan will the campaign track purchase at a discount happen this month? In other words, should we wait to purchase until it gets discounted in the store, or will it not go live till next month
Enjoy the discount of 1,24 $ 🤗
It will cost me more from the WRG store, than from Amazon.
Currently £18.60 from Amazon, and £19.66 from the WRG store. If I used Amazon coins I could save even more. On Google Play it is £22.99
Where is it on amazon?
Every time I had to make a purchase I had to take out my fossil laptop & purchase through FB as it was way more expensive to purchase through game via google
That was until I installed the game through galaxy store instead of play store.
But now I do have a £10 -or $ can't remember - so will have to reinstall the game to cash that in
Amazon coins can only be used on compatible devices: Kindles and Kindle Fires and possibly Android devices (you’d need to have the Amazon appstore installed).
Amazon coins can only be used on compatible devices: Kindles and Kindle Fires and possibly Android devices (you’d need to have the Amazon appstore installed).
I bought a Fire explicitly for this. More than made up for the cost with the discounts.
It is a terrible device for actually playing the game, and it crashes every time I buy something, but it saves me money!
One positive aspect of the web store that I don't think has come up is that it will allow players to directly purchase items for other players, given they have their dbid. I could see fleets using that for incentives, or gift-giving.
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@Shan will the campaign track purchase at a discount happen this month? In other words, should we wait to purchase until it gets discounted in the store, or will it not go live till next month
Enjoy the discount of 1,24 $ 🤗
It will cost me more from the WRG store, than from Amazon.
Currently £18.60 from Amazon, and £19.66 from the WRG store. If I used Amazon coins I could save even more. On Google Play it is £22.99
Where is it on amazon?
Every time I had to make a purchase I had to take out my fossil laptop & purchase through FB as it was way more expensive to purchase through game via google
That was until I installed the game through galaxy store instead of play store.
But now I do have a £10 -or $ can't remember - so will have to reinstall the game to cash that in
Amazon coins can only be used on compatible devices: Kindles and Kindle Fires and possibly Android devices (you’d need to have the Amazon appstore installed).
It's no longer applicable for the android tablet
Even with the £10 voucher used to buy the campaign through google, there was only £5 difference if I had bought it through samsung checkout
@Shan will the campaign track purchase at a discount happen this month? In other words, should we wait to purchase until it gets discounted in the store, or will it not go live till next month
Enjoy the discount of 1,24 $ 🤗
It will cost me more from the WRG store, than from Amazon.
Currently £18.60 from Amazon, and £19.66 from the WRG store. If I used Amazon coins I could save even more. On Google Play it is £22.99
Where is it on amazon?
Every time I had to make a purchase I had to take out my fossil laptop & purchase through FB as it was way more expensive to purchase through game via google
That was until I installed the game through galaxy store instead of play store.
But now I do have a £10 -or $ can't remember - so will have to reinstall the game to cash that in
Download the amazon app store from amazon. Install it, give it permissions to install other stuff, then open it up and search for it in the amazon app store.
Note you cannot have the amazon and Google versions on the same phone, at the same time.
I understand the reasoning of bypassing the 3rd party fees and getting more from purchases, but imo you just destroyed the integrity and the reason for playing this game as it was meant. Rankings just lost all meaning and has become pay to get reward. This was a horrible decision and one that will ultimately change the enjoyment of this game for the long timers. You just minimized all our hard accomplishments with this. Not trying to be mean but just giving my criticism and opinion.
If the third parties are taking 30%, might have been better player good will to sell items directly from their store, but marked down 15%. They still get back half of what third party services were taking, and the 15% lower price would encourage buying.
EXAMPLE: Buying a $10 item from third party, they get $7 and third party gets $3.
Direct sell: Sell Item for $8.50. They get $8.50 straight up and the player pays $8.50, saving $1.50.
I think they are talking about the ability to bulk buy chrons, 62,500 at a time
I sincerely doubt that the third parties are only taking 30% for one thing out of all the stuff they sell. That is what I was talking about.
I agree with you there: the 3rd parties are getting their cut no matter what. So is Paramount/CBS.
The ability for people to bulk buy dil and chrons runs the risk of breaking events. People who take the time to gather resources have a much higher risk of seeing their work be undermined by someone who’s willing to spend their life savings on. That was Gandozer’s complaint and what Princess Uhura was responding to.
I never said my feelings one way or another on the "Buy to Win" dynamic they introduced. But, the cut WAS mentioned in the post I quoted. And clearly what I was addressing. Multiple people trying to steer my comment into something else does not change what I was commenting on.
My apologies if my post seemed to be putting words in your mouth. That was not my i tention.
That being said, i think that wrg is just trying to make a few extra bucks without players spending more, with one big exception, the ability to bulk buy chrons and dilithium will break events and make them all p2w.
We can argue that shuttle events are already p2w, but that dosnt make it any more palatable. So, anyhow someone else mentioned that while the events and ofher bugs have been happening in recent weeks, this store is what they were working on, and i think that is proabably accurare. I doubt that there are more than 10 people dedicated to solely working on this game. Seems like any new “feature” is an all hands on deck thing.
This won't break skirmish and Galaxy events because they're not limited by resources now.
I don't think you realize how different late game play is from where you are. Players have more chrons than they know what to do with. They have hundreds to thousands of each galaxy item.
When players talk about winning these events the conversation is not how many chrons you need. It's how little sleep you can get. It's playing while going to the bathroom. If you're thinking about buying chrons for a skirmish event you've already lost.
If WRG wanted to break the event they would add a paid bot. Pay X to let the ai play for you for Y hours. That would make skirmishes and galaxies p2w. Anything short of that is not going to change the top of the leaderboard.
The purchases during an event don’t worry me as much as purchases in the days leading up to an event. Let’s say on Tuesday of a week leading up to a skirmish, I have 3k chrons. I find out that I can take the rest of the week off and the card looks really good. Now I can buy hundreds of thousands of chrons (for a lot of money) to chase the event win. Knowing that this is an option makes chasing a win more nerve-wracking and risky. It actually makes me less willing to chase higher ranks, because I’m less certain that I can make it due to someone being wealthier or making poorer choices than me.
The people using hundreds of thousands of chrons already have those chrons. Or the ones that want to drop money are dropping money in game. The determination of who wins is less who is willing to spend money than who is willing to spend 96 hours clicking. Making more chrons available for purchase won't change who wants to spend 96 hours clicking non-stop.
I understand the reasoning of bypassing the 3rd party fees and getting more from purchases, but imo you just destroyed the integrity and the reason for playing this game as it was meant. Rankings just lost all meaning and has become pay to get reward. This was a horrible decision and one that will ultimately change the enjoyment of this game for the long timers. You just minimized all our hard accomplishments with this. Not trying to be mean but just giving my criticism and opinion.
If the third parties are taking 30%, might have been better player good will to sell items directly from their store, but marked down 15%. They still get back half of what third party services were taking, and the 15% lower price would encourage buying.
EXAMPLE: Buying a $10 item from third party, they get $7 and third party gets $3.
Direct sell: Sell Item for $8.50. They get $8.50 straight up and the player pays $8.50, saving $1.50.
I think they are talking about the ability to bulk buy chrons, 62,500 at a time
I sincerely doubt that the third parties are only taking 30% for one thing out of all the stuff they sell. That is what I was talking about.
I agree with you there: the 3rd parties are getting their cut no matter what. So is Paramount/CBS.
The ability for people to bulk buy dil and chrons runs the risk of breaking events. People who take the time to gather resources have a much higher risk of seeing their work be undermined by someone who’s willing to spend their life savings on. That was Gandozer’s complaint and what Princess Uhura was responding to.
I never said my feelings one way or another on the "Buy to Win" dynamic they introduced. But, the cut WAS mentioned in the post I quoted. And clearly what I was addressing. Multiple people trying to steer my comment into something else does not change what I was commenting on.
My apologies if my post seemed to be putting words in your mouth. That was not my i tention.
That being said, i think that wrg is just trying to make a few extra bucks without players spending more, with one big exception, the ability to bulk buy chrons and dilithium will break events and make them all p2w.
We can argue that shuttle events are already p2w, but that dosnt make it any more palatable. So, anyhow someone else mentioned that while the events and ofher bugs have been happening in recent weeks, this store is what they were working on, and i think that is proabably accurare. I doubt that there are more than 10 people dedicated to solely working on this game. Seems like any new “feature” is an all hands on deck thing.
This won't break skirmish and Galaxy events because they're not limited by resources now.
I don't think you realize how different late game play is from where you are. Players have more chrons than they know what to do with. They have hundreds to thousands of each galaxy item.
When players talk about winning these events the conversation is not how many chrons you need. It's how little sleep you can get. It's playing while going to the bathroom. If you're thinking about buying chrons for a skirmish event you've already lost.
If WRG wanted to break the event they would add a paid bot. Pay X to let the ai play for you for Y hours. That would make skirmishes and galaxies p2w. Anything short of that is not going to change the top of the leaderboard.
The purchases during an event don’t worry me as much as purchases in the days leading up to an event. Let’s say on Tuesday of a week leading up to a skirmish, I have 3k chrons. I find out that I can take the rest of the week off and the card looks really good. Now I can buy hundreds of thousands of chrons (for a lot of money) to chase the event win. Knowing that this is an option makes chasing a win more nerve-wracking and risky. It actually makes me less willing to chase higher ranks, because I’m less certain that I can make it due to someone being wealthier or making poorer choices than me.
The people using hundreds of thousands of chrons already have those chrons. Or the ones that want to drop money are dropping money in game. The determination of who wins is less who is willing to spend money than who is willing to spend 96 hours clicking. Making more chrons available for purchase won't change who wants to spend 96 hours clicking non-stop.
The people who saved up the chrons worked to get to that point. What does their effort mean if it can be equalled with a few hundred dollars?
My other concern is that these offers make it really easy for someone to recharge after chasing or getting an event win. It’s now possible for a player to win unlimited events if their checks clear.
Store linked to in the announcement does not have any of the...ahem... interestingly priced limited treasure offers shown above... (reserving further thoughts)
Store linked to in the announcement does not have any of the...ahem... interestingly priced limited treasure offers shown above... (reserving further thoughts)
Yes, as per MOTD we had to take them down temporarily - I will put a forum message as well!
(me=headless chook yadda yadda)
Store linked to in the announcement does not have any of the...ahem... interestingly priced limited treasure offers shown above... (reserving further thoughts)
Yes, as per MOTD we had to take them down temporarily - I will put a forum message as well!
(me=headless chook yadda yadda)
Store linked to in the announcement does not have any of the...ahem... interestingly priced limited treasure offers shown above... (reserving further thoughts)
Yes, as per MOTD we had to take them down temporarily - I will put a forum message as well!
(me=headless chook yadda yadda)
I understand the reasoning of bypassing the 3rd party fees and getting more from purchases, but imo you just destroyed the integrity and the reason for playing this game as it was meant. Rankings just lost all meaning and has become pay to get reward. This was a horrible decision and one that will ultimately change the enjoyment of this game for the long timers. You just minimized all our hard accomplishments with this. Not trying to be mean but just giving my criticism and opinion.
If the third parties are taking 30%, might have been better player good will to sell items directly from their store, but marked down 15%. They still get back half of what third party services were taking, and the 15% lower price would encourage buying.
EXAMPLE: Buying a $10 item from third party, they get $7 and third party gets $3.
Direct sell: Sell Item for $8.50. They get $8.50 straight up and the player pays $8.50, saving $1.50.
I think they are talking about the ability to bulk buy chrons, 62,500 at a time
I sincerely doubt that the third parties are only taking 30% for one thing out of all the stuff they sell. That is what I was talking about.
I agree with you there: the 3rd parties are getting their cut no matter what. So is Paramount/CBS.
The ability for people to bulk buy dil and chrons runs the risk of breaking events. People who take the time to gather resources have a much higher risk of seeing their work be undermined by someone who’s willing to spend their life savings on. That was Gandozer’s complaint and what Princess Uhura was responding to.
I never said my feelings one way or another on the "Buy to Win" dynamic they introduced. But, the cut WAS mentioned in the post I quoted. And clearly what I was addressing. Multiple people trying to steer my comment into something else does not change what I was commenting on.
My apologies if my post seemed to be putting words in your mouth. That was not my i tention.
That being said, i think that wrg is just trying to make a few extra bucks without players spending more, with one big exception, the ability to bulk buy chrons and dilithium will break events and make them all p2w.
We can argue that shuttle events are already p2w, but that dosnt make it any more palatable. So, anyhow someone else mentioned that while the events and ofher bugs have been happening in recent weeks, this store is what they were working on, and i think that is proabably accurare. I doubt that there are more than 10 people dedicated to solely working on this game. Seems like any new “feature” is an all hands on deck thing.
This won't break skirmish and Galaxy events because they're not limited by resources now.
I don't think you realize how different late game play is from where you are. Players have more chrons than they know what to do with. They have hundreds to thousands of each galaxy item.
When players talk about winning these events the conversation is not how many chrons you need. It's how little sleep you can get. It's playing while going to the bathroom. If you're thinking about buying chrons for a skirmish event you've already lost.
If WRG wanted to break the event they would add a paid bot. Pay X to let the ai play for you for Y hours. That would make skirmishes and galaxies p2w. Anything short of that is not going to change the top of the leaderboard.
The purchases during an event don’t worry me as much as purchases in the days leading up to an event. Let’s say on Tuesday of a week leading up to a skirmish, I have 3k chrons. I find out that I can take the rest of the week off and the card looks really good. Now I can buy hundreds of thousands of chrons (for a lot of money) to chase the event win. Knowing that this is an option makes chasing a win more nerve-wracking and risky. It actually makes me less willing to chase higher ranks, because I’m less certain that I can make it due to someone being wealthier or making poorer choices than me.
The people using hundreds of thousands of chrons already have those chrons. Or the ones that want to drop money are dropping money in game. The determination of who wins is less who is willing to spend money than who is willing to spend 96 hours clicking. Making more chrons available for purchase won't change who wants to spend 96 hours clicking non-stop.
The people who saved up the chrons worked to get to that point. What does their effort mean if it can be equalled with a few hundred dollars?
My other concern is that these offers make it really easy for someone to recharge after chasing or getting an event win. It’s now possible for a player to win unlimited events if their checks clear.
I'm sitting on 116306 chronitons right now. I got them by keeping up on voyages, bailing early on events that didn't interest me (or skipping them altogether), and by 86'ing new crew who didn't interest me. Aside from the voyages, the rest of my formula has been the opposite of putting in effort. No one else plunking down a pile of cash to match or exceed my stockpile devalues it.
But, hey, if anyone is so hellbent on winning they want to start paying other players to take a dive, I can be had cheap. You'll still have thousands of others to bribe, though.
I understand the reasoning of bypassing the 3rd party fees and getting more from purchases, but imo you just destroyed the integrity and the reason for playing this game as it was meant. Rankings just lost all meaning and has become pay to get reward. This was a horrible decision and one that will ultimately change the enjoyment of this game for the long timers. You just minimized all our hard accomplishments with this. Not trying to be mean but just giving my criticism and opinion.
If the third parties are taking 30%, might have been better player good will to sell items directly from their store, but marked down 15%. They still get back half of what third party services were taking, and the 15% lower price would encourage buying.
EXAMPLE: Buying a $10 item from third party, they get $7 and third party gets $3.
Direct sell: Sell Item for $8.50. They get $8.50 straight up and the player pays $8.50, saving $1.50.
I think they are talking about the ability to bulk buy chrons, 62,500 at a time
I sincerely doubt that the third parties are only taking 30% for one thing out of all the stuff they sell. That is what I was talking about.
I agree with you there: the 3rd parties are getting their cut no matter what. So is Paramount/CBS.
The ability for people to bulk buy dil and chrons runs the risk of breaking events. People who take the time to gather resources have a much higher risk of seeing their work be undermined by someone who’s willing to spend their life savings on. That was Gandozer’s complaint and what Princess Uhura was responding to.
I never said my feelings one way or another on the "Buy to Win" dynamic they introduced. But, the cut WAS mentioned in the post I quoted. And clearly what I was addressing. Multiple people trying to steer my comment into something else does not change what I was commenting on.
My apologies if my post seemed to be putting words in your mouth. That was not my i tention.
That being said, i think that wrg is just trying to make a few extra bucks without players spending more, with one big exception, the ability to bulk buy chrons and dilithium will break events and make them all p2w.
We can argue that shuttle events are already p2w, but that dosnt make it any more palatable. So, anyhow someone else mentioned that while the events and ofher bugs have been happening in recent weeks, this store is what they were working on, and i think that is proabably accurare. I doubt that there are more than 10 people dedicated to solely working on this game. Seems like any new “feature” is an all hands on deck thing.
This won't break skirmish and Galaxy events because they're not limited by resources now.
I don't think you realize how different late game play is from where you are. Players have more chrons than they know what to do with. They have hundreds to thousands of each galaxy item.
When players talk about winning these events the conversation is not how many chrons you need. It's how little sleep you can get. It's playing while going to the bathroom. If you're thinking about buying chrons for a skirmish event you've already lost.
If WRG wanted to break the event they would add a paid bot. Pay X to let the ai play for you for Y hours. That would make skirmishes and galaxies p2w. Anything short of that is not going to change the top of the leaderboard.
The purchases during an event don’t worry me as much as purchases in the days leading up to an event. Let’s say on Tuesday of a week leading up to a skirmish, I have 3k chrons. I find out that I can take the rest of the week off and the card looks really good. Now I can buy hundreds of thousands of chrons (for a lot of money) to chase the event win. Knowing that this is an option makes chasing a win more nerve-wracking and risky. It actually makes me less willing to chase higher ranks, because I’m less certain that I can make it due to someone being wealthier or making poorer choices than me.
The people using hundreds of thousands of chrons already have those chrons. Or the ones that want to drop money are dropping money in game. The determination of who wins is less who is willing to spend money than who is willing to spend 96 hours clicking. Making more chrons available for purchase won't change who wants to spend 96 hours clicking non-stop.
The people who saved up the chrons worked to get to that point. What does their effort mean if it can be equalled with a few hundred dollars?
My other concern is that these offers make it really easy for someone to recharge after chasing or getting an event win. It’s now possible for a player to win unlimited events if their checks clear.
I'm sitting on 116306 chronitons right now. I got them by keeping up on voyages, bailing early on events that didn't interest me (or skipping them altogether), and by 86'ing new crew who didn't interest me. Aside from the voyages, the rest of my formula has been the opposite of putting in effort. No one else plunking down a pile of cash to match or exceed my stockpile devalues it.
But, hey, if anyone is so hellbent on winning they want to start paying other players to take a dive, I can be had cheap. You'll still have thousands of others to bribe, though.
So, do you mean to say that when Mechalobe (rip) was terrorizing the leaderboards for faction events, it didnt devalue your own shuttle tokens and boosts? Knowing 1st place was impossible?
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Insane price on that one (not talking about "value", more about the amount) to shelling out for a virtual item all at once ...
This won't break skirmish and Galaxy events because they're not limited by resources now.
I don't think you realize how different late game play is from where you are. Players have more chrons than they know what to do with. They have hundreds to thousands of each galaxy item.
When players talk about winning these events the conversation is not how many chrons you need. It's how little sleep you can get. It's playing while going to the bathroom. If you're thinking about buying chrons for a skirmish event you've already lost.
If WRG wanted to break the event they would add a paid bot. Pay X to let the ai play for you for Y hours. That would make skirmishes and galaxies p2w. Anything short of that is not going to change the top of the leaderboard.
Or you can buy worse in the game lol
Also any new Tuesday packs today or just delayed?
You really think there are no bots(auto tap programs) used for skirmishes
and galaxies, anymore?
I'm sure there are some. But I hope it's a limited number. If WRG introduced a bot into the game, there would be a lot more and they would monetize it even more.
The purchases during an event don’t worry me as much as purchases in the days leading up to an event. Let’s say on Tuesday of a week leading up to a skirmish, I have 3k chrons. I find out that I can take the rest of the week off and the card looks really good. Now I can buy hundreds of thousands of chrons (for a lot of money) to chase the event win. Knowing that this is an option makes chasing a win more nerve-wracking and risky. It actually makes me less willing to chase higher ranks, because I’m less certain that I can make it due to someone being wealthier or making poorer choices than me.
I was referring to the fact that, upon launch and prior to the daily reset, the webstore was showing that the Pride Campaign Ultimate Track was going to be available
I was not referring to our in-game mail/forum announcement ;p
If you encounter any issue don't forget to report them in Engineering Room.
Thank you
I think it's probably helpful to delineate between competing to actually win an event and competing with the intent to rank as high as possible. If we're to entertain abstract concerns of further imbalances to the player base, I would argue the additional loot those players are going to rack up along the way (honor, chronitons, credits, to say nothing of farming stockpiles) stands to have a greater impact than the outcome of the Skirmish itself. But this is all fairly esoteric anyway because, as has been noted, things have already been out of whack on such a scale for so long.
Where is it on amazon?
Every time I had to make a purchase I had to take out my fossil laptop & purchase through FB as it was way more expensive to purchase through game via google
That was until I installed the game through galaxy store instead of play store.
But now I do have a £10 -or $ can't remember - so will have to reinstall the game to cash that in
Amazon coins can only be used on compatible devices: Kindles and Kindle Fires and possibly Android devices (you’d need to have the Amazon appstore installed).
I bought a Fire explicitly for this. More than made up for the cost with the discounts.
It is a terrible device for actually playing the game, and it crashes every time I buy something, but it saves me money!
One positive aspect of the web store that I don't think has come up is that it will allow players to directly purchase items for other players, given they have their dbid. I could see fleets using that for incentives, or gift-giving.
Ov (Overall) | Vo (Voyage) | Fa (Faction) | Ga (Gauntlet)
Sb (Ship Battle) | Bt (Boss Battle Traits) | Co (Collection) | (Cd (Cadet)
Even with the £10 voucher used to buy the campaign through google, there was only £5 difference if I had bought it through samsung checkout
I also bought 7 of these
Cue drum roll....
Download the amazon app store from amazon. Install it, give it permissions to install other stuff, then open it up and search for it in the amazon app store.
Note you cannot have the amazon and Google versions on the same phone, at the same time.
I could load the store page last night, but today I get this when trying to go to the STT web store
5 single pulls is not worth $50. If anyone thinks it is, pay me $20 and I’ll help you learn more about Timelines.
The people using hundreds of thousands of chrons already have those chrons. Or the ones that want to drop money are dropping money in game. The determination of who wins is less who is willing to spend money than who is willing to spend 96 hours clicking. Making more chrons available for purchase won't change who wants to spend 96 hours clicking non-stop.
The people who saved up the chrons worked to get to that point. What does their effort mean if it can be equalled with a few hundred dollars?
My other concern is that these offers make it really easy for someone to recharge after chasing or getting an event win. It’s now possible for a player to win unlimited events if their checks clear.
Just example
Campaign: Steam $28,49, iOS $29.85, Webstore $23,75
But until I can copy/paste DBID from Steam, or IOS I will probably not buy anything. Writting it down (in)correctly is just too big of a risk.
Yes, as per MOTD we had to take them down temporarily - I will put a forum message as well!
(me=headless chook yadda yadda)
You should have stayed with Bungles
I'm sitting on 116306 chronitons right now. I got them by keeping up on voyages, bailing early on events that didn't interest me (or skipping them altogether), and by 86'ing new crew who didn't interest me. Aside from the voyages, the rest of my formula has been the opposite of putting in effort. No one else plunking down a pile of cash to match or exceed my stockpile devalues it.
But, hey, if anyone is so hellbent on winning they want to start paying other players to take a dive, I can be had cheap. You'll still have thousands of others to bribe, though.
So, do you mean to say that when Mechalobe (rip) was terrorizing the leaderboards for faction events, it didnt devalue your own shuttle tokens and boosts? Knowing 1st place was impossible?
You mean the like 500.00 for 65k chronotons?